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Lisa Frank's Side of the Story - Glamour Dolls Makeup x Lisa Frank PART 2| Behind the Controversy

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    Glamour Dolls failed to comply with
    those obligations when it engaged in a
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    failed online advertising campaign on
    Kickstarter, using LFI, Lisa Frank's brand
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    without LFI's approval and then refused to
    pay royalties due when LFI properly
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    terminated the party's contracts as a
    result of Glamour Dolls' misconduct.
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    Wait a minute. She didn't know about the
    Kickstarter? Hello my friend, I will
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    honestly tell you that until late last
    night, I did not think that I was filming
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    a video about Lisa Frank and Glamour
    Dolls today. I actually had a full video
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    planned about preservative-free cosmetics
    and how freaking ridiculous and dangerous
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    preservative-free cosmetics are. But then
    I got a very interesting comment from a
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    person named "Fake Goth Girl." Okay. I get
    a link. The link is to a court document
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    that I had not previously had access to.
    This document is Lisa Frank's point of
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    view. It is her counter suit. This is Lisa
    Frank saying "Glamour Dolls is the bad
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    guy, not me. I didn't do anything wrong -
    they're the ones that did something
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    wrong." So in today's video, I want to go
    over Lisa's side of things - what she says
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    in the court documents is the reason why
    she pulled out of her contract with
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    Glamour Dolls that left backers of the
    Kickstarter out all of their money - over
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    $400,000 of their money, including my
    money. My $75? Gone. If you have no idea
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    what I'm talking about, that's because
    this is Part 2. I strongly strongly
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    suggest you please watch Part 1 of this.
    It will be linked below. It will be up in
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    a card. It is the background for this
    video - this video might not make sense
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    if you don't watch that one first. If you
    don't feel like you have time for an hour
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    and a half long video, what you can do is
    you can scrub through the timestamps, kind
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    of get the idea of what it is. You can
    also play it on 1.5 speed if you want to.
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    And I will tell you that the average
    amount of watch time on that video for a
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    single view is about 40 minutes. That has
    literally never happened on my channel.
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    This is a story that I think you want to
    hear and and that I think that you are
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    going to be engaged in if you choose to.
    That being said, we are starting at Part
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    2. I'm assuming at this point that you
    have seen that video and that you have
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    that background knowledge. And also
    side note, I mentioned this at the end of,
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    the video, but there's probably about 40
    comments mentioning Bailey Sarian's video
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    on Lisa Frank, based on the Jezebel
    article that we talked about in the first
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    part of this. Yes, I am fully aware of
    Bailey's video. I have met Bailey. I have
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    collaborated with Bailey. Bailey did a
    fantastic job on that video. That video is
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    more about Lisa Frank as a person, so if
    you want even more context for the story,
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    I highly recommend you go watch Bailey's
    video as well. What we're gonna do with
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    this part is I'm actually gonna put Lisa
    Frank's lawsuit on the side of me so if
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    you are fluent in Legalese, you can follow
    along and see the match up of what I'm
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    saying. Surprisingly, a lot of is is
    pretty clear cut and there isn't a ton of
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    lawyer language in this that was difficult
    to understand. So if you would like to
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    read along, it is going to be next to me
    over here. Here we go. So this is what
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    Lisa says. This is her side of things.
    This is all about the deal in 2016, the
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    original deal that she had. Lisa says they
    struck the deal in June of 2016 that would
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    end on December 31st of 2017 - that
    matches up with Glamour Dolls' side, so
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    I'm assuming there's legal contracts, so
    there's evidence of this. So Glamour Dolls
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    in that original contract, agreed to pay
    Lisa Frank 15% royalty on the net sales
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    of the products made under the deal, with
    a minimum payment of $100,000 for the
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    duration of the agreement, including a
    $25,000 advance. Glamour Dolls promised to
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    do their best, to make, sell, promote, and
    market the products to get as many sales
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    as possible, always focusing on high
    quality. Now this part is very very
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    important because this is really the root
    of why everything went wrong. They had to
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    get Lisa Frank's approval on literally
    everything, from the design concepts to
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    the artwork, to the molds for production,
    to the final product samples before going
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    into production. Lisa Frank had the right
    to approve or reject the elements and
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    Glamour Dolls had to follow Lisa Frank's
    directions on quality standards. Now
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    listen to this because this is part of the
    reason why things were taking so long. So,
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    for designs, Glamour Dolls had to wait up
    to 10 business days - that's about two
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    weeks or so - for Lisa Frank to approve
    or reject anything that they submitted to
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    her. If Lisa didn't respond in time,
    Glamour Dolls was allowed to ask after
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    those 10 business days, "Hey, what's going
    on? I need a full description of why you
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    reject this or I need an approval." But
    this is the kicker! Because even after
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    approval, and remember, this is according
    to Lisa herself, Lisa could stop the
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    production and distribution of the
    products if they didn't meet her quality
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    standards. That's a subjective thing -
    that is not something that can be
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    measured. Lisa can just for any reason,
    just say "This doesn't meet my quality
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    standards" and stop production at any
    point. And it wasn't just for production
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    of product. It also had to do with
    advertising, packaging, display methods,
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    press releases - anything using Lisa Frank
    artwork - Glamour Dolls had to run this by
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    Lisa. They had to wait for those 10
    business days and then if she didn't
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    respond in 10 business days, then they had
    to poke her about it and be like "Dude,
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    what's going on?" They had to keep poking
    her if she didn't respond after those 10
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    business days. So remember this original
    contract that I personally believe was to
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    create the blush, the highlighter, and the
    two brushes - that contract was ending
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    in December. But remember the Kickstarter
    had started in February. We're now in
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    December. February - they promised backers
    10 additional products beyond these four
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    that had already been funded. Lisa's
    contract is about to end, so they need to
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    start a new contract. This is what Lisa
    says was in the new contract: same 15%
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    royalty on the net sales of the products
    plus 20% royalty on sales made directly to
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    retail customers. So this would be if
    people bought it off of Ipsy's marketplace
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    or if people bought it from Hot Topic,
    or at one point they were talking to
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    Walmart - any of those, Lisa would get a
    20% royalty off of. Beyond that, in the
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    first contract, Lisa asked for at least
    $100,000 for her fees. In the new
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    contract, Lisa upped that to $500,000.
    That included an up front payment of
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    $125,000 that needed to be paid when the
    contract was signed. Three more payments
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    would be paid throughout the year to total
    that $500,000. The rules for making the
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    products were pretty much the same as the
    first contract. All of the levels of "you
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    need to send it to Lisa and she needs to
    approve it" and then the 10 business days
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    - all of that was pretty much the same.
    The only thing that changed, which we'll
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    find out more about in just a minute, is
    that they did not have to get pre-shipment
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    approval. So Lisa has already approved
    the final draft of the product, they have
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    put that into production, they now have
    the products - they've got thousands and
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    thousands and thousands of these products
    - they don't have to send those products
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    to Lisa for approval anymore. But there
    is a clause - because of course there is -
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    if there were any production problems, if
    after all of these things were sent out
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    Lisa decided that there was a
    production problem, there was something
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    she didn't like, Glamour Dolls would have
    to pay damages for that. What would those
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    damages be? I have no idea, it's not in
    here. Another thing that's very important
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    in Lisa's side of the story is that they
    said that Lisa could end the deal
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    immediately if Glamour Dolls broke certain
    rules, like not following the approval
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    process or having production issues 3
    times. If Lisa decided that she was
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    going to terminate the agreement, Glamour
    Dolls had to not only stop making
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    products, they also they had to stop
    selling their existing products. Then they
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    had to turn over the rights to the
    artwork. Anything that Lisa had created
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    for Glamour Dolls would now be owned by
    Lisa. And you might be seeing where this
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    might be going - maybe if you watched Part
    1. Because she did that. That happened.
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    In context, you have to remember that this
    is 3 months past the date that Glamour
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    Dolls had promised products would be done
    and shipped to backers. So they are deep
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    deep in it now. They are sending out that
    digital Christmas card, where people can
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    send it to their families, saying "Hey,
    you know, you might be getting some Lisa
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    Frank products that I bought for you at
    some point. This is what's coming." That's
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    where we're at. A lot of the backers are
    already irritated by this point. From
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    Lisa's side, she says in her court
    documents that LFI, or Lisa Frank
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    Incorporated, fully performed its
    obligations under the license agreements -
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    I do believe Glamour Dolls would argue
    against that. They say specifically
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    Glamour Dolls repeatedly failed to meet
    their responsibilities under the
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    agreements they had with Lisa Frank. This
    is how Lisa says Glamour Dolls messed up.
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    And remember, she's going to have to prove
    this for her counter suit. This is what
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    she says - she says they didn't put in
    enough effort to produce, distribute,
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    promote, and sell the products that they
    were supposed to. She says that they
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    didn't aim to sell as many high quality
    products as they could, that they had
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    signed off in their contract. She says
    that they use Lisa Frank artwork in ads
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    and packaging without getting approval
    first, which was against their rules of
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    the contract. She says Glamour Dolls was
    late in making and delivering the
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    products, which they were. She says that
    Glamour Dolls didn't follow the agreed
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    upon process for getting products
    inspected and approved, that they didn't
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    pay the royalties and the minimum amounts
    that they were supposed to, and that they
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    used the Kickstarter to sell products
    without getting the okay from Lisa Frank
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    Incorporated, which was of course not
    allowed. Finally, they say that Glamour
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    Dolls promised products to backers and
    then never shipped them out, which is
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    true. But the question is: why didn't they
    ship them out? What was stopping them
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    from doing it? Was it a fault of Glamour
    Dolls or was it a fault of Lisa? We're
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    still in Lisa's perspective, so let's
    follow that. Lisa says that even through
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    all of the things that I just listed - the
    things that are in Lisa's filing - she
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    continued to try to work with Glamour
    Dolls to make things work. She says she
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    did this only because she felt like, if
    she didn't continue with Glamour Dolls and
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    see this through and get the backers what
    they ordered, that it would damage Lisa
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    Frank. It would damage her and her brand.
    It wasn't about making sure that people
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    got what they paid for, it was about the
    damage it would cause to her reputation
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    and her brand's reputation. She says in
    her statement that, you know, that Glamour
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    Dolls had made all these promises and
    they failed to go through on them, that
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    they even said that they were shipping
    things to people that they never shipped
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    to them, which I don't know if it's
    actually true. Because from what I've
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    seen, anybody that was supposed to get
    the eyeshadow and the bronzer and the
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    postcard did get those things. There is
    some question, at least in the comments
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    underneath my last video of whether people
    who ordered the brush separately, whether
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    they actually got their brush. So maybe
    that's what Lisa is talking about. Lisa
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    says that Glamour Dolls ignored rules
    that they had to follow to get Lisa's
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    approval before making anything. She says
    that they attempted to make or change
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    products without talking to her first.
    And also that they didn't give her the
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    samples required that she needed to
    review. The perspective here is that
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    because of those failures, people started
    blaming Lisa Frank and not Glamour Dolls,
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    where she's saying it wasn't her fault,
    it was Glamour Dolls' fault. She said that
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    people began to think that Lisa Frank was
    scamming them, leaving negative comments
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    and complaints online that damaged LFI's
    reputation. It was only because Glamour
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    Dolls broke their side of the contract
    so many times that she ended the contract
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    formally in July of 2018, which is what
    Glamour Dolls had said, that she abruptly
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    just ended the contract. What Glamour
    Dolls had said was before she ended the
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    contract, she required them to pay that
    final $125,000 to her and then once she
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    got the money, she terminated the contract
    and that they didn't know she was going to
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    do that when she took the money.
    Supposedly, LFI reminded Glamour Dolls
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    that they needed to do the things that
    were in the contract, that if she ended
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    it, that they needed to do - things like
    returning all the artwork and paying any
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    royalties owed. However, she says Glamour
    Dolls didn't pay what they owed or follow
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    through on other responsibilities after
    the termination, leading to more problems
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    and losses for LFI. So at the final part
    of the complaint, Lisa says "This is what
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    I want the court to give me." She says she
    wants to be paid damages, which means all
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    of the money that they should have
    received under the agreements with Glamour
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    Dolls - the exact amount of how much she
    should be paid would be decided at trial.
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    Then she wants to be paid back for all of
    the costs and all of the expenses and the
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    lawyer's fees as allowed by law. She also
    wants to receive interest on any money
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    awarded to them, both before and after the
    court's decision at 18% per year and it
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    looks like, you know, this happened in
    2018, it's now 2024, so that's a lot of
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    freakin' interest. I'm not going to do the
    math in my brain right now because it's
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    physically and mentally impossible for me
    but that's a lot of money. And finally,
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    she's like "And if the court wants to
    give me something else, if you think
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    there's something else that's fair, feel
    free. You can give me that too." So that
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    is Lisa's filing. I have lots of thoughts
    my friend. Do you have thoughts? Because
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    if you have thoughts, put 'em in the
    comment section because I'm wondering if
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    we have the exact same thoughts. That's
    what the collective brain is all about, is
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    us bouncing ideas off of each other and in
    a recorded video, it's a little harder. So
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    if you have thoughts, definitely leave
    them in the comments. I'm gonna tell you
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    mine. Okay, so I have questions. [laughs]
    I have 3 major questions. The first one is
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    "What was the timeline for approving the
    Kickstarter?" Because eventually, Lisa was
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    participating in the Kickstarter, at least
    it looks like she was participating in the
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    Kickstarter. So I am curious what Glamour
    Dolls' side of this is, in that do they
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    say that they did the Kickstarter without
    talking to Lisa? Because I noticed
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    something that was in their paperwork that
    they filed. They label Kickstarter as a
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    business that they were trying to get to
    work with, right? So it's listed in with
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    Ipsy and Hot Topic; they also list
    Kickstarter. So it was seen by them - it
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    looks like - as just another way to sell
    products and I don't know if that was in
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    the contract, that they had to clear what
    retailers they were gonna work with with
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    Lisa. Where I think that Lisa may have
    them on this is that they had to use Lisa
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    Frank artwork and they had to promote this
    using Lisa Frank branded stuff for the
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    Kickstarter before it even started.
    Remember Candy's video. I wish I could
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    show you the video - it is killing me that
    this video is private and I can't show
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    you the full video. But Candy clearly
    uses Lisa Frank artwork in the video to
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    promote this Kickstarter. If Lisa didn't
    know about the Kickstarter, then she
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    didn't approve the artwork to be used in
    Candy's video or any other promotional
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    things that they did for the Kickstarter.
    So then Lisa would have them on that.
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    That's what I'm thinking most likely
    happened - I mean of course it's possible
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    that Glamour Dolls did talk to Lisa and
    tell her about the Kickstarter beforehand
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    and did get all of the artwork approved
    and all of that, but it sounds like Lisa
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    is saying "No, that didn't happen." So
    my next question associated with that -
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    that's kind of a sub question to question
    number 1 - is "When did Lisa find out
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    about the 10 products that they promised
    to the Kickstarter backers? When did she
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    agree to that?" Because it seems like that
    first contract from 2016 was really for
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    those 4 products that they actually did
    produce and put out there - the blush
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    brush, the crease brush, the bronzer, and
    the eyeshadows. Single eyeshadows, not
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    eyeshadow palettes, the single eyeshadows.
    The ones that were sold at Hot Topic. It
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    is very very likely that Lisa was on board
    with the Kickstarter about a month after
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    the Kickstarter started because in March,
    they show posts that are specifically from
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    Lisa, participating in encouraging people
    to enter these contests, to perform these
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    tasks, to show their nail looks and things
    like that. Lisa is posting there. So if
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    this is really Lisa posting - which it
    doesn't really make any sense to me that
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    it wouldn't be Lisa because Glamour Dolls
    wouldn't be able to, like, hide that from
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    Lisa - they would have to explain that
    so it doesn't really make sense to me
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    that that wasn't actually Lisa posting.
    But she was clearly participating and
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    on board in March. Another clue that Lisa
    was involved in the Kickstarter from the
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    launch of the Kickstarter was that just
    a few days after the launch, Glamour
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    Dolls posted that Lisa was going to go
    into her vault and the first 1,000 backers
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    were going to get a very special gift
    from Lisa in their box when they got their
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    stuff. They would get a second - what they
    called a treat - if they hit 2,000 backers
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    and that Lisa had something really special
    planned if they made it to 10,000 backers.
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    So I'm very curious to see if this piece
    comes out in court. My second question is
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    "Why the hell did Glamour Dolls sign this
    terrible ass contract?" This is the most
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    bull**** contract I think I have ever
    read. It is absolutely nuts. The part that
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    is the most unbelievable for me is that
    Glamour Dolls signed this is the whole
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    approval process. It is absolutely
    ridiculous. Both sides agree that this was
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    the process. So they have an idea, right?
    They start with the idea. Let's use the
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    Trapper Keeper palettes as an example.
    So they have an idea that they want to
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    create a palette that looks like a Trapper
    Keeper. So they get this plain white
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    Trapper Keeper palette made by the
    factory. Glamour Dolls then takes this
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    white packaging, this plain plastic
    packaging that's the mock-up, send it to
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    Lisa, wait 10 business days. If she
    doesn't answer, they have to poke her and
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    get her to give feedback. If she doesn't
    approve of it, Glamour Dolls then takes
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    her ideas, whatever she wants changed, and
    lets the manufacturing facility know. Then
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    they get another mock-up. Then they send
    that to Lisa. They wait 10 days, they wait
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    for the feedback. All of that happens all
    over again until Lisa's happy. I didn't
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    see anything on either said that said Lisa
    had a limit to how many changes she could
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    make. So let's assume she's now approved
    the mold. Now they have to wait for Lisa
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    to make the artwork. Once the artwork
    comes in, again, they send it over to the
  • 19:25 - 19:30
    manufacturer. The manufacturer puts it on
    the product. Then Glamour Dolls has to
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    have two samples of it that they then send
    over to Lisa and wait those 10 business
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    days again. If she doesn't respond, then
    they poke her - same process all over
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    again, where she can either reject it or
    accept it. Do you see how this is so
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    freaking ridiculous? Because it's not even
    over then! Even after Lisa has approved
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    the final designed product, when they
    manufacture it - let's say they make
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    10,000 of them, because this did happen -
    they make 10,000 of them, they have to
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    send 2 of the 10,000 to Lisa for final
    approval before they can ship those out
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    to customers. And I will tell you my
    friend, this actually happened -
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    according to Glamour Dolls - with the
    vegan leather makeup bag. This is the
  • 20:14 - 20:17
    draft picture of the vegan leather makeup
    bag that was not designed, that people
  • 20:17 - 20:23
    were really excited about. This is the
    final design that was supposedly "The
  • 20:23 - 20:27
    One," the makeup bag. Well it turns out,
    according to Glamour Dolls, Lisa didn't
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    like this and after they had printed
    10,000 of these, Lisa said she didn't
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    want it to be vegan leather anymore; she
    wanted it to be glitter plastic. And
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    because of the sh**** ass contract that
    they signed, they couldn't sell those
  • 20:41 - 20:46
    10,000 bags that they had already made
    because she had approved the sample. They
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    had to start all over again with a glitter
    bag design. I mean how f***ing ridiculous
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    is this? The fact that Glamour Dolls
    signed this contract, did they not have
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    a lawyer read it? Like what happened? How
    did this get through? From the very jump,
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    this should have just never happened and
    I'm sure Glamour Dolls in hindsight is
  • 21:07 - 21:14
    thinking the exact same thing. And my
    third question is "Why would they start a
  • 21:14 - 21:20
    Kickstarter in February, knowing that
    Lisa's contract was ending in December?"
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    Because that's where they really got
    screwed. This is what I'm thinking: I'm
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    thinking Lisa designed all of the products
    and got everything going for those first
  • 21:30 - 21:36
    four products before the Kickstarter
    even started. And that was why Glamour
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    Dolls wanted to do more work with her.
    They were like "Yes, this was so smooth,
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    this was so easy. Let's keep this going a
    little longer. We have until December,
  • 21:44 - 21:48
    it's only February. We have all this time.
    We pushed out those four products pretty
  • 21:48 - 21:51
    quickly as far as getting through this
    process, so let's do 10 more! We've got
  • 21:51 - 21:56
    this." Glamour Dolls said publicly that
    they didn't start having problems with
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    Lisa slowing down the process until June
    of 2017. So that was after the Kickstarter
  • 22:00 - 22:04
    had already started, but before the
    estimated ship date that they told the
  • 22:04 - 22:08
    backers of September. And it makes sense
    because if they started signing the
  • 22:08 - 22:13
    contract in June of 2016, by February,
    they had made and designed 4 products.
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    Assuming that Lisa was done with all of
    the designs and all of the things and all
  • 22:17 - 22:20
    of the approvals by the time that the
    Kickstarter started so that's about 8
  • 22:20 - 22:24
    months. So they're thinking "Well yeah
    this was so easy, we should be able to
  • 22:24 - 22:28
    push out more products by December, by
    the time Lisa's contract ends." So now I
  • 22:28 - 22:33
    shall present to you the worst case
    scenario of Lisa's a raging b****.
  • 22:33 - 22:36
    [laughter] That's where we're gonna go
    with this. This is worst case scenario
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    what happened, in that Lisa knew her
    contract was ending in December, she knew
  • 22:41 - 22:46
    that she could slow down this process in
    order to get a new contract in December
  • 22:46 - 22:49
    and price gauge the hell out of Glamour
    Dolls. She knew that they had already
  • 22:49 - 22:54
    promised all of these products to the
    backers. She knew that they probably
  • 22:54 - 22:59
    given her $125,000 of the backers' money.
    She knew that Glamour Dolls was already
  • 22:59 - 23:04
    using the backer money in order to get
    these samples and ship them to her. The
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    $370,000 that the backers had paid,
    probably a lot of it was already spent
  • 23:08 - 23:12
    because that's why they started wanting -
    needing more money. They started selling
  • 23:12 - 23:16
    the products on BackerKit, they started
    selling the crease brush on their website,
  • 23:16 - 23:21
    they really started courting Hot Topic to
    try to sell products over there because
  • 23:21 - 23:27
    Lisa was taking all of the Kickstarter
    backers' money for herself and they were
  • 23:27 - 23:31
    using it for the manufacturing of these
    products and they knew it wasn't enough to
  • 23:31 - 23:34
    see this whole project through because
    remember they've got 10 products they're
  • 23:34 - 23:39
    trying to make by December. So time
    passes, Lisa drags this out, drags this
  • 23:39 - 23:43
    out, and then drops the bomb on Glamour
    Dolls: "If you want this to continue,
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    after all this money that you spent,
    you're gonna have to pay me $500,000, not
  • 23:47 - 23:51
    $100,000 anymore. It's $500,000 and you
    know when you sell to Hot Topic? You're
  • 23:51 - 23:56
    not gonna give me 15%, you're gonna give
    me 20%." But at that point, they were so
  • 23:56 - 24:00
    far deep in it that they couldn't get out
    of it. They absolutely couldn't get out
  • 24:00 - 24:04
    of it. Another place that they probably
    spent the backers' money was on Wengie
  • 24:04 - 24:09
    because remember the call that Peter did
    with the backers? He mentions very
  • 24:09 - 24:11
    briefly paying for a video. I'll play that
    for you.
  • 24:11 - 24:15
    (Peter): We actually didn't make a profit
    off of this Kickstarter campaign. I know
  • 24:15 - 24:20
    that's, um, it's a hard thing for people
    to, um, to kind of believe with the size
  • 24:20 - 24:24
    of it. But, um, we have to manufacture all
    those goods, uh, we have licensing fees
  • 24:24 - 24:29
    to pay to Lisa, um, we had to pay for, you
    know, uh, for production of the video and
  • 24:29 - 24:31
    for all these different things.
  • 24:31 - 24:35
    (Jen) I don't know this for a fact but
    I think he took the money from the backers
  • 24:35 - 24:38
    and paid Wengie to make that video.
    Who knows how much he paid her because
  • 24:38 - 24:42
    influencer rates back then, you know, it
    was brand new, you know, influencers
  • 24:42 - 24:46
    getting paid for sponsored videos and
    things like that. I have no idea how much
  • 24:46 - 24:50
    they paid Wengie but I would imagine that
    was part of where the money was going and
  • 24:50 - 24:53
    why they needed to raise more money.
    Because now in December, they not only
  • 24:53 - 24:57
    have to get all of these 10 products
    manufactured but they also have to pay
  • 24:57 - 25:02
    Lisa this $500,000. Lisa officially had
    Glamour Dolls by the unicorn balls. I mean
  • 25:02 - 25:07
    like, she was-she had them. They had no
    choice, in my opinion, if this is the way
  • 25:07 - 25:13
    it played out, other than to sign that
    contract and just hope for the best. If
  • 25:13 - 25:17
    all of this is true - let's say they say
    "Screw you Lisa, we're not paying you
  • 25:17 - 25:21
    $500,000, we're cutting off the contract
    now." How do they pay back the backers?
  • 25:21 - 25:27
    They can't. They don't have the money
    anymore. It's gone. They don't have the
  • 25:27 - 25:31
    money to pay back the backers so they are
    absolutely screwed. Some other things
  • 25:31 - 25:36
    that I found in the Glamour Dolls part of
    the lawsuit that I didn't see when I made
  • 25:36 - 25:40
    the last video that I want to let you know
    because now, I imagine at some point,
  • 25:40 - 25:45
    there'll be a part 3 [laughter] of this
    video is that they were saying more
  • 25:45 - 25:50
    things about how Lisa interfered with the
    production of the product. So in the court
  • 25:50 - 25:55
    filing, it says "Lisa Frank frequently and
    unreasonably rejected already manufactured
  • 25:55 - 26:01
    samples without being specific as to the
    reason for disapproval." In their filing,
  • 26:01 - 26:05
    they said that there was a problem with
    the Ipsy products. They said "in one
  • 26:05 - 26:11
    instance, due to the defendant, Lisa
    Frank's failure to timely provide artwork
  • 26:11 - 26:15
    for the Ipsy sales order, Glamour Dolls
    missed the artwork deadline and was forced
  • 26:15 - 26:20
    to pay a fine in the amount of $50,500."
    The filing continued on and said that
  • 26:20 - 26:24
    Glamour Dolls was shipping her out samples
    and then she'd be like - 10 business days
  • 26:24 - 26:30
    later - "Oh I lost them, can you send more
    of them?" It's like, "wait what? What?"
  • 26:30 - 26:34
    And in this case, they may not have more
    samples because they requested a certain
  • 26:34 - 26:39
    number of samples from the lab and then
    they mail the samples to Lisa Frank and
  • 26:39 - 26:43
    then Lisa loses them so then they have to
    ask the lab for more samples and they have
  • 26:43 - 26:47
    to pay for that and then get those
    samples and then send those - wait for
  • 26:47 - 26:51
    those to come in - then send those to Lisa
    and then they have to wait for Lisa to
  • 26:51 - 26:55
    approve those. Do you see how it's just
    dragging everything out? And you remember
  • 26:55 - 27:00
    how I said as part of the contract - this
    was so, so if this is how it happened -
  • 27:00 - 27:04
    that part of the contract was that Lisa
    would get her artwork back and that's
  • 27:04 - 27:09
    what she did. She used that artwork on the
    Morphe products. The artwork she made for
  • 27:09 - 27:14
    Glamour Dolls. You can see it on the
    Trapper Keeper-style palette that Morphe
  • 27:14 - 27:19
    had made. But to be true to the title of
    this video, Lisa says that "Glamour Dolls
  • 27:19 - 27:23
    failed to comply with the inspection and
    approval process. Lisa's gonna have to
  • 27:23 - 27:27
    prove this in court. She's gonna have to
    show them the evidence that Glamour Dolls
  • 27:27 - 27:31
    didn't go through the proper approval
    process because even if it's unfair -
  • 27:31 - 27:35
    this is the thing about the law - even if
    it's unfair, even if it's unreasonable, if
  • 27:35 - 27:39
    Glamour Dolls signed that contract and
    said that they were gonna follow a certain
  • 27:39 - 27:43
    process, they had to follow that process,
    even if it's bull****. And if Lisa can
  • 27:43 - 27:47
    prove that they did things that were
    against the process, then she had a right
  • 27:47 - 27:52
    to terminate the contract and get her
    artwork and then sell it to Morphe. It's
  • 27:52 - 27:57
    just so fu***d up! [laughter] It's just
    so messed up! But we definitely need to
  • 27:57 - 28:02
    end this video the same way we ended the
    last one in that the most current ruling
  • 28:02 - 28:07
    by the judge for the 9 claims that Glamour
    Dolls has against Lisa Frank - the judge
  • 28:07 - 28:12
    only dismissed part of claim 1. That was
    the breach of contract; they partially
  • 28:12 - 28:17
    dismissed that but the judge says that
    Glamour Dolls can go forward on part of
  • 28:17 - 28:22
    the breach of contract and everything
    else - including unjust enrichment, fraud,
  • 28:22 - 28:25
    defamation, and all of those things -
    that they're moving forward with those
  • 28:25 - 28:30
    claims, which means that the judge thinks
    that Glamour Dolls has enough evidence to
  • 28:30 - 28:34
    support that these things happened. Not
    that Lisa isn't going to counter with
  • 28:34 - 28:38
    something else but Glamour Dolls does
    have a case to present. And also like I
  • 28:38 - 28:43
    mentioned in the last video, the last
    court filing for this was January 24th,
  • 28:43 - 28:48
    2024, so this is going to be ongoing, so I
    imagine at some point, there will be a
  • 28:48 - 28:52
    part 3. I don't imagine it will be soon
    but I said that last time, so [laughter]
  • 28:52 - 28:56
    who knows? At this point my friend, it is
    your turn in the collective brain of
  • 28:56 - 29:00
    makeup awesomeness. I would love to know
    your thoughts on this new information that
  • 29:00 - 29:04
    was sent to me and thank you again so much
    to the person who calls themself "Fake
  • 29:04 - 29:08
    Gothic Girl," thank you for sending me the
    link to this court document that I
  • 29:08 - 29:13
    previously didn't have access to. It
    really opened my eyes to a lot of things
  • 29:13 - 29:19
    and hopefully it added some context to you
    - if you watch the first piece - to what
  • 29:19 - 29:23
    Lisa was saying about what was happening
    and what her counter suit is all about.
  • 29:23 - 29:27
    Let me know any and all thoughts down in
    the comment section down below. Thank you
  • 29:27 - 29:31
    so so much for watching, I hope you enjoy.
    If you would like to hang out just a
  • 29:31 - 29:34
    little bit longer, YouTube should be
    recommending a couple of videos over here
  • 29:34 - 29:38
    to watch. I'm gonna put a previous episode
    of "Behind the Controversy" down there.
  • 29:38 - 29:42
    In case you didn't see it, that's a
    really good one. If you would like to
  • 29:42 - 29:45
    watch the top one, that one YouTube's
    picking for you based on your viewing
  • 29:45 - 29:49
    history, which video they think that
    you're gonna like. But if you gotta go
  • 29:49 - 29:53
    cuz you have things that you gotta do,
    I get it. Thank you for hanging out as
  • 29:53 - 29:56
    long as you did and mad love to you and I
    will see you in a video very very soon.
  • 29:56 - 29:58
    Bye!
Title:
Lisa Frank's Side of the Story - Glamour Dolls Makeup x Lisa Frank PART 2| Behind the Controversy
Description:

This is a story of deception, greed, lies, manipulation, and .... unicorns. Today on PART 2 of Behind the Controversy Lisa Frank x Glamour Dolls Makeup, we take a look at Lisa Frank's side of the story through her COUNTERSUIT against Glamour Dolls. What does SHE say Glamour Dolls did to make her back out of their contract and what she STILL thinks Glamour Dolls owes her! Let's talk about it!

PLEASE watch Part 1 first or this video might be confusing: https://youtu.be/1_1ORHKNPLM

@BaileySarian 's Dark History episode on Lisa Frank. She focuses more on Lisa herself, the Jezebel article, and her business practices - https://youtu.be/cNfAuBEwcvo?si=Bn79bCDENtx45M3m

Another video you might like, Unearthing My Kaboodle from the 90's (yes it still has makeup in it) - https://youtu.be/fUeIdIIMoLA

*Time Stamps*
0:00 Intro
3:02 Lisa's Side of the Story
14:15 Question 1: When did Lisa “approve” the Kickstarter?
17:59 Question 2: Why did Glamour Dolls sign this awful contract?
21:07 Question 3: Why did the kickstarter happen knowing Lisa's contract was ending?

*Relevant Links*
The Kickstarter - https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/168282293/lisa-frank-makeup-collaboration/posts/2816323
Allure article about the launch - https://www.allure.com/story/lisa-frank-glamour-dolls-makeup
The Kick Further - https://app.kickfurther.com/coop/lisa-frank-x-glamour-dolls-eyeshadow-and-matte-mousse-for-hot-topic-amazon-and-more

The Jezebel Article - https://jezebel.com/inside-the-rainbow-gulag-the-technicolor-rise-and-fall-1179495705
Lawsuit Press Release - https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/glamour-dolls-inc-files-federal-lawsuit-against-lisa-frank-and-lisa-frank-inc-301310713.html or https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0242/5397/files/Glamour_Dolls_LF_Press_Release.pdf?v=1623354739
The Insider Article - https://www.businessinsider.com/lisa-frank-morphe-makeup-collection-backlash-2020-11?utm_source=yahoo.com&utm_medium=referral
Insider Update - https://www.businessinsider.com/beauty-brand-glamour-dolls-is-suing-lisa-frank-2021-6
Formal Complaint - https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0242/5397/files/Glamour_Dolls_Complaint_FILED_5.27.21.pdf?v=1623339145
Court Documents - https://unicourt.com/case/pc-db5-glamour-dolls-incorporated-v-lisa-frank-incorporated-et-al-920679?init_S=ch_ftrd
Available Court Filing - https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/USCOURTS-azd-4_21-cv-00228/pdf/USCOURTS-azd-4_21-cv-00228-0.pdf

App BuzzFeed Article https://www.buzzfeed.com/annanorth/lisa-frank-app-lets-you-put-stickers-on-your-photo
History of QR codes https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365-life-hacks/privacy-and-safety/brief-history-qr-codes
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