Lisa Frank's Side of the Story - Glamour Dolls Makeup x Lisa Frank PART 2| Behind the Controversy
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0:00 - 0:05Glamour Dolls failed to comply with
those obligations when it engaged in a -
0:05 - 0:10failed online advertising campaign on
Kickstarter, using LFI, Lisa Frank's brand -
Not Syncedwithout LFI's approval and then refused to
pay royalties due when LFI properly -
Not Syncedterminated the party's contracts as a
result of Glamour Dolls' misconduct. -
Not SyncedWait a minute. She didn't know about the
Kickstarter? Hello my friend, I will -
Not Syncedhonestly tell you that until late last
night, I did not think that I was filming -
Not Synceda video about Lisa Frank and Glamour
Dolls today. I actually had a full video -
Not Syncedplanned about preservative-free cosmetics
and how freaking ridiculous and dangerous -
Not Syncedpreservative-free cosmetics are. But then
I got a very interesting comment from a -
Not Syncedperson named "Fake Goth Girl." Okay. I get
a link. The link is to a court document -
Not Syncedthat I had not previously had access to.
This document is Lisa Frank's point of -
Not Syncedview. It is her counter suit. This is Lisa
Frank saying "Glamour Dolls is the bad -
Not Syncedguy, not me. I didn't do anything wrong -
they're the ones that did something -
Not Syncedwrong." So in today's video, I want to go
over Lisa's side of things - what she says -
Not Syncedin the court documents is the reason why
she pulled out of her contract with -
Not SyncedGlamour Dolls that left backers of the
Kickstarter out all of their money - over -
Not Synced$400,000 of their money, including my
money. My $75? Gone. If you have no idea -
Not Syncedwhat I'm talking about, that's because
this is Part 2. I strongly strongly -
Not Syncedsuggest you please watch Part 1 of this.
It will be linked below. It will be up in -
Not Synceda card. It is the background for this
video - this video might not make sense -
Not Syncedif you don't watch that one first. If you
don't feel like you have time for an hour -
Not Syncedand a half long video, what you can do is
you can scrub through the timestamps, kind -
Not Syncedof get the idea of what it is. You can
also play it on 1.5 speed if you want to. -
Not SyncedAnd I will tell you that the average
amount of watch time on that video for a -
Not Syncedsingle view is about 40 minutes. That has
literally never happened on my channel. -
Not SyncedThis is a story that I think you want to
hear and and that I think that you are -
Not Syncedgoing to be engaged in if you choose to.
That being said, we are starting at Part -
Not Synced2. I'm assuming at this point that you
have seen that video and that you have -
Not Syncedthat background knowledge. And also
side note, I mentioned this at the end of, -
Not Syncedthe video, but there's probably about 40
comments mentioning Bailey Sarian's video -
Not Syncedon Lisa Frank, based on the Jezebel
article that we talked about in the first -
Not Syncedpart of this. Yes, I am fully aware of
Bailey's video. I have met Bailey. I have -
Not Syncedcollaborated with Bailey. Bailey did a
fantastic job on that video. That video is -
Not Syncedmore about Lisa Frank as a person, so if
you want even more context for the story, -
Not SyncedI highly recommend you go watch Bailey's
video as well. What we're gonna do with -
Not Syncedthis part is I'm actually gonna put Lisa
Frank's lawsuit on the side of me so if -
Not Syncedyou are fluent in Legalese, you can follow
along and see the match up of what I'm -
Not Syncedsaying. Surprisingly, a lot of is is
pretty clear cut and there isn't a ton of -
Not Syncedlawyer language in this that was difficult
to understand. So if you would like to -
Not Syncedread along, it is going to be next to me
over here. Here we go. So this is what -
Not SyncedLisa says. This is her side of things.
This is all about the deal in 2016, the -
Not Syncedoriginal deal that she had. Lisa says they
struck the deal in June of 2016 that would -
Not Syncedend on December 31st of 2017 - that
matches up with Glamour Dolls' side, so -
Not SyncedI'm assuming there's legal contracts, so
there's evidence of this. So Glamour Dolls -
Not Syncedin that original contract, agreed to pay
Lisa Frank 15% royalty on the net sales -
Not Syncedof the products made under the deal, with
a minimum payment of $100,000 for the -
Not Syncedduration of the agreement, including a
$25,000 advance. Glamour Dolls promised to -
Not Synceddo their best, to make, sell, promote, and
market the products to get as many sales -
Not Syncedas possible, always focusing on high
quality. Now this part is very very -
Not Syncedimportant because this is really the root
of why everything went wrong. They had to -
Not Syncedget Lisa Frank's approval on literally
everything, from the design concepts to -
Not Syncedthe artwork, to the molds for production,
to the final product samples before going -
Not Syncedinto production. Lisa Frank had the right
to approve or reject the elements and -
Not SyncedGlamour Dolls had to follow Lisa Frank's
directions on quality standards. Now -
Not Syncedlisten to this because this is part of the
reason why things were taking so long. So, -
Not Syncedfor designs, Glamour Dolls had to wait up
to 10 business days - that's about two -
Not Syncedweeks or so - for Lisa Frank to approve
or reject anything that they submitted to -
Not Syncedher. If Lisa didn't respond in time,
Glamour Dolls was allowed to ask after -
Not Syncedthose 10 business days, "Hey, what's going
on? I need a full description of why you -
Not Syncedreject this or I need an approval." But
this is the kicker! Because even after -
Not Syncedapproval, and remember, this is according
to Lisa herself, Lisa could stop the -
Not Syncedproduction and distribution of the
products if they didn't meet her quality -
Not Syncedstandards. That's a subjective thing -
that is not something that can be -
Not Syncedmeasured. Lisa can just for any reason,
just say "This doesn't meet my quality -
Not Syncedstandards" and stop production at any
point. And it wasn't just for production -
Not Syncedof product. It also had to do with
advertising, packaging, display methods, -
Not Syncedpress releases - anything using Lisa Frank
artwork - Glamour Dolls had to run this by -
Not SyncedLisa. They had to wait for those 10
business days and then if she didn't -
Not Syncedrespond in 10 business days, then they had
to poke her about it and be like "Dude, -
Not Syncedwhat's going on?" They had to keep poking
her if she didn't respond after those 10 -
Not Syncedbusiness days. So remember this original
contract that I personally believe was to -
Not Syncedcreate the blush, the highlighter, and the
two brushes - that contract was ending -
Not Syncedin December. But remember the Kickstarter
had started in February. We're now in -
Not SyncedDecember. February - they promised backers
10 additional products beyond these four -
Not Syncedthat had already been funded. Lisa's
contract is about to end, so they need to -
Not Syncedstart a new contract. This is what Lisa
says was in the new contract: same 15% -
Not Syncedroyalty on the net sales of the products
plus 20% royalty on sales made directly to -
Not Syncedretail customers. So this would be if
people bought it off of Ipsy's marketplace -
Not Syncedor if people bought it from Hot Topic,
or at one point they were talking to -
Not SyncedWalmart - any of those, Lisa would get a
20% royalty off of. Beyond that, in the -
Not Syncedfirst contract, Lisa asked for at least
$100,000 for her fees. In the new -
Not Syncedcontract, Lisa upped that to $500,000.
That included an up front payment of -
Not Synced$125,000 that needed to be paid when the
contract was signed. Three more payments -
Not Syncedwould be paid throughout the year to total
that $500,000. The rules for making the -
Not Syncedproducts were pretty much the same as the
first contract. All of the levels of "you -
Not Syncedneed to send it to Lisa and she needs to
approve it" and then the 10 business days -
Not Synced- all of that was pretty much the same.
The only thing that changed, which we'll -
Not Syncedfind out more about in just a minute, is
that they did not have to get pre-shipment -
Not Syncedapproval. So Lisa has already approved
the final draft of the product, they have -
Not Syncedput that into production, they now have
the products - they've got thousands and -
Not Syncedthousands of these products - they don't
have to send those products to Lisa for -
Not Syncedapproval anymore. But there is a clause -
because of course there is - if there were -
Not Syncedany production problems, if after all of
these things were sent out and Lisa -
Not Synceddecided that there was a production
problem, there was something she didn't -
Not Syncedlike, Glamour Dolls would have to pay
damages for that. What would those -
Not Synceddamages be? I have no idea, it's not in
here. Another thing that's very important -
Not Syncedin Lisa's side of the story is that they
said that Lisa could end the deal -
Not Syncedimmediately if Glamour Dolls broke certain
rules, like not following the approval -
Not Syncedprocess or having production issues 3
times. If Lisa decided that she was -
Not Syncedgoing to terminate the agreement, Glamour
Dolls had to not only stop making -
Not Syncedproducts, they had to stop selling their
existing products. Then they had to turn -
Not Syncedover the rights to the artwork. Anything
that Lisa had created for Glamour Dolls -
Not Syncedwould now be owned by Lisa. And you might
be seeing where this might be going - -
Not Syncedmaybe if you watched part 1. Because she
did that. That happened. In context. you -
Not Syncedhave to remember that this is 3 months
past the date that Glamour Dolls had -
Not Syncedpromised products would be done and
shipped to backers. So they are deep deep -
Not Syncedin it now. They are sending out that
digital Christmas card, where people can -
Not Syncedsend it to their families, saying "Hey,
you know, you might be getting some Lisa -
Not SyncedFrank products that I bought for you at
some point. This is what's coming." That's -
Not Syncedwhere we're at. A lot of the backers are
already irritated by this point. From -
Not SyncedLisa's side, she says in her court
documents that LFI, or Lisa Frank -
Not SyncedIncorporated, fully performed its
obligations under the license agreements - -
Not SyncedI do believe Glamour Dolls would argue
against that. They say specifically -
Not SyncedGlamour Dolls repeatedly failed to meet
their responsibilities under the -
Not Syncedagreements they had with Lisa Frank. This
is how Lisa says Glamour Dolls messed up. -
Not SyncedAnd remember, she's going to have to prove
this for her counter suit. This is what -
Not Syncedshe says - she says they didn't put in
enough effort to produce, distribute, -
Not Syncedpromote, and sell the products that they
were supposed to. She says that they -
Not Synceddidn't aim to sell as many high quality
products as they could, that they had -
Not Syncedsigned off in their contract. She says
that they use Lisa Frank artwork in ads -
Not Syncedand packaging without getting approval
first, which was against their rules of -
Not Syncedthe contract. She says Glamour Dolls was
late in making and delivering the -
Not Syncedproducts, which they were. She says that
Glamour Dolls didn't follow the agreed -
Not Syncedupon process for getting products
inspected and approved, that they didn't -
Not Syncedpay the royalties and the minimum amounts
that they were supposed to, and that they -
Not Syncedused the Kickstarter to sell products
without getting the okay from Lisa Frank -
Not SyncedIncorporated, which was of course not
allowed. Finally, they say that Glamour -
Not SyncedDolls promised products to backers and
then never shipped them out, which is -
Not Syncedtrue. But the question is: why didn't they
ship them out? What was stopping them -
Not Syncedfrom doing it? Was it a fault of Glamour
Dolls or was it a fault of Lisa? We're -
Not Syncedstill in Lisa's perspective, so let's
follow that. Lisa says that even through -
Not Syncedall of the things that I just listed - the
things that are in Lisa's filing - she -
Not Syncedcontinued to try to work with Glamour
Dolls to make things work. She says she -
Not Synceddid this only because she felt like, if
she didn't continue with Glamour Dolls and -
Not Syncedsee this through and get the backers what
they ordered, that it would damage Lisa -
Not SyncedFrank. It would damage her and her brand.
It wasn't about making sure that people -
Not Syncedgot what they paid for, it was about the
damage it would cause to her reputation -
Not Syncedand her brand's reputation. She says in
her statement that, you know, that Glamour -
Not SyncedDolls had made all these promises and
they failed to go through on them, that -
Not Syncedthey even said that they were shipping
things to people that they never shipped -
Not Syncedto them, which I don't know if it's
actually true. Because from what I've -
Not Syncedseen, anybody that was supposed to get
the eyeshadow and the bronzer and the -
Not Syncedpostcard did get those things. There is
some question, at least in the comments -
Not Syncedunderneath my last video of whether people
who ordered the brush separately, whether -
Not Syncedthey actually got their brush. So maybe
that's what Lisa is talking about. Lisa -
Not Syncedsays that Glamour Dolls ignored rules
that they had to follow to get Lisa's -
Not Syncedapproval before making anything. She says
that they attempted to make or change -
Not Syncedproducts without talking to her first.
And also that they didn't give her the -
Not Syncedsamples required that she needed to
review. The perspective here is that -
Not Syncedbecause of those failures, people started
blaming Lisa Frank and not Glamour Dolls, -
Not Syncedwhere she's saying it wasn't her fault,
it was Glamour Dolls' fault. She said that -
Not Syncedpeople began to think that Lisa Frank was
scamming them, leaving negative comments -
Not Syncedand complaints online that damaged LFI's
reputation. It was only because Glamour -
Not SyncedDolls broke their side of the contract
so many times that she ended the contract -
Not Syncedformally in July of 2018, which is what
Glamour Dolls had said, that she abruptly -
Not Syncedjust ended the contract. What Glamour
Dolls had said was before she ended the -
Not Syncedcontract, she required them to pay that
final $125,000 to her and then once she -
Not Syncedgot the money, she terminated the contract
and that they didn't know she was going to -
Not Synceddo that when she took the money.
Supposedly, LFI reminded Glamour Dolls -
Not Syncedthat they needed to do the things that
were in the contract, that if she ended -
Not Syncedit, that they needed to do - things like
returning all the artwork and paying any -
Not Syncedroyalties owed. However, she says Glamour
Dolls didn't pay what they owed or follow -
Not Syncedthrough on other responsibilities after
the termination, leading to more problems -
Not Syncedand losses for LFI. So at the final part
of the complaint, Lisa says "This is what -
Not SyncedI want the court to give me." She says she
wants to be paid damages, which means all -
Not Syncedof the money that they should have
received under the agreements with Glamour -
Not SyncedDolls - the exact amount of how much she
should be paid would be decided at trial. -
Not SyncedThen she wants to be paid back for all of
the costs and all of the expenses and the -
Not Syncedlawyer's fees as allowed by law. She also
wants to receive interest on any money -
Not Syncedawarded to them, both before and after the
court's decision at 18% per year and it -
Not Syncedlooks like, you know, this happened in
2018, it's now 2024, so that's a lot of -
Not Syncedfreakin' interest. I'm not going to do the
math in my brain right now because it's -
Not Syncedphysically and mentally impossible for me
but that's a lot of money. And finally, -
Not Syncedshe's like "And if the court wants to
give me something else, if you think -
Not Syncedthere's something else that's fair, feel
free. You can give me that too." So that -
Not Syncedis Lisa's filing. I have lots of thoughts
my friend. Do you have thoughts? Because -
Not Syncedif you have thoughts, put 'em in the
comment section because I'm wondering if -
Not Syncedwe have the exact same thoughts. That's
what the collective brain is all about, is -
Not Syncedus bouncing ideas off of each other and in
a recorded video, it's a little harder. So -
Not Syncedif you have thoughts, definitely leave
them in the comments. I'm gonna tell you -
Not Syncedmine. Okay, so I have questions. [laughs]
I have 3 major questions. The first one is -
Not Synced"What was the timeline for approving the
Kickstarter?" Because eventually, Lisa was -
Not Syncedparticipating in the Kickstarter, at least
it looks like she was participating in the -
Not SyncedKickstarter. So I am curious what Glamour
Dolls' side of this is, in that do they -
Not Syncedsay that they did the Kickstarter without
talking to Lisa? Because I noticed -
Not Syncedsomething that was in their paperwork that
they filed. They label Kickstarter as a -
Not Syncedbusiness that they were trying to get to
work with, right? So it's listed in with -
Not SyncedIpsy and Hot Topic; they also list
Kickstarter. So it was seen by them - it -
Not Syncedlooks like - as just another way to sell
products and I don't know if that was in -
Not Syncedthe contract, that they had to clear what
retailers they were gonna work with with -
Not SyncedLisa. Where I think that Lisa may have
them on this is that they had to use Lisa -
Not SyncedFrank artwork and they had to promote this
using Lisa Frank branded stuff for the -
Not SyncedKickstarter before it even started.
Remember Candy's video. I wish I could -
Not Syncedshow you the video - it is killing me that
this video is private and I can't show -
Not Syncedyou the full video. But Candy clearly
uses Lisa Frank artwork in the video to -
Not Syncedpromote this Kickstarter. If Lisa didn't
know about the Kickstarter, then she -
Not Synceddidn't approve the artwork to be used in
Candy's video or any other promotional -
Not Syncedthings that they did for the Kickstarter.
So then Lisa would have them on that. -
Not SyncedThat's what I'm thinking most likely
happened - I mean of course it's possible -
Not Syncedthat Glamour Dolls did talk to Lisa and
tell her about the Kickstarter beforehand -
Not Syncedand did get all of the artwork approved
and all of that, but it sounds like Lisa -
Not Syncedis saying "No, that didn't happen." So
my next question associated with that - -
Not Syncedit's kind of a sub question to question
number 1 - is "When did Lisa find out -
Not Syncedabout the 10 products that they promised
to the Kickstarter backers? When did she -
Not Syncedagree to that?" Because it seems like that
first contract from 2016 was really for -
Not Syncedthose 4 products that they actually did
produce and put out there - the blush -
Not Syncedbrush, the crease brush, the bronzer, and
the eyeshadows. Single eyeshadows, not -
Not Syncedeyeshadow palettes, the single eyeshadows.
The ones that were sold at Hot Topic. It -
Not Syncedis very very likely that Lisa was on board
with the Kickstarter about a month after -
Not Syncedthe Kickstarter started because in March,
they show posts that are specifically from -
Not SyncedLisa, participating in encouraging people
to enter these contests, to perform these -
Not Syncedtasks, to show their nail looks and things
like that. Lisa is posting there. So if -
Not Syncedthis is really Lisa posting - which it
doesn't really make any sense to me that -
Not Syncedit wouldn't be Lisa because Glamour Dolls
wouldn't be able to, like, hide that from -
Not SyncedLisa - they would have to explain that
so it doesn't really make sense to me -
Not Syncedthat that wasn't actually Lisa posting.
But she was clearly participating and -
Not Syncedon board in March. Another clue that Lisa
was involved in the Kickstarter from the -
Not Syncedlaunch of the Kickstarter was that just
a few days after the launch, Glamour -
Not SyncedDolls posted that Lisa was going to go
into her vault and the first 1,000 backers -
Not Syncedwere going to get a very special gift
from Lisa in their box when they got their -
Not Syncedstuff. They would get a second - what they
called a treat - if they hit 2,000 backers -
Not Syncedand that Lisa had something really special
planned if they made it to 10,000 backers. -
Not SyncedSo I'm very curious to see if this piece
comes out in court. My second question is -
Not Synced"Why the hell did Glamour Dolls sign this
terrible ass contract?" This is the most -
Not Syncedbull**** contract I think I have ever
read. It is absolutely nuts. The part that -
Not Syncedis the most unbelievable for me is that
Glamour Dolls signed this is the whole -
Not Syncedapproval process. It is absolutely
ridiculous. Both sides agree that this was -
Not Syncedthe process. So they have an idea, right?
They start with the idea. Let's use the -
Not SyncedTrapper Keeper palettes as an example.
So they have an idea that they want to -
Not Syncedcreate a palette that looks like a Trapper
Keeper. So they get this plain white -
Not SyncedTrapper Keeper palette made by the
factory. Glamour Dolls then takes this -
Not Syncedwhite packaging, this plain plastic
packaging that's the mock-up, send it to -
Not SyncedLisa, wait 10 business days. If she
doesn't answer, they have to poke her and -
Not Syncedget her to give feedback. If she does
approve of it, Glamour Dolls then takes -
Not Syncedher ideas, whatever she wants changed, and
lets the manufacturing facility know. Then -
Not Syncedthey get another mock-up. Then they send
that to Lisa. They wait 10 days, they wait -
Not Syncedfor the feedback. All of that happens all
over again until Lisa's happy. I didn't -
Not Syncedsee anything on either said that said Lisa
had a limit to how many changes she could -
Not Syncedmake. So let's assume she's now approved
the mold. Now they have to wait for Lisa -
Not Syncedto make the artwork. Once the artwork
comes in, again, they send it over to the -
Not Syncedmanufacturer. The manufacturer puts it on
the product. Then Glamour Dolls has to -
Not Syncedhave two samples of it that they then send
over to Lisa and wait those 10 business -
Not Synceddays again. If she doesn't respond, then
they poke her - same process all over -
Not Syncedagain, where she can either reject it or
accept it. Do you see how this is so -
Not Syncedfreaking ridiculous? Because it's not even
over then! Even after Lisa has approved -
Not Syncedthe final designed product, when they
manufacture it - let's say they make -
Not Synced10,000 of them, because this did happen -
they make 10,000 of them, they have to -
Not Syncedsend 2 of the 10,000 to Lisa for final
approval before they can ship those out -
Not Syncedto customers. And I will tell you my
friend, this actually happened - -
Not Syncedaccording to Glamour Dolls - with the
vegan leather makeup bag. This is the -
Not Synceddraft picture of the vegan leather makeup
bag that was not designed, that people -
Not Syncedreally excited about. This is the final
design that was supposedly "The One," the -
Not Syncedmakeup bag. Well it turns out, according
to Glamour Dolls, Lisa didn't like this -
Not Syncedand after they had printed 10,000 of
these, Lisa said she didn't want it to be -
Not Syncedvegan leather anymore; she wanted it to
be glitter plastic. And because of the -
Not Syncedsh**** ass contract that they signed,
they couldn't sell those 10,000 bags that -
Not Syncedthey had already made because she had
approved the sample. They had to start all -
Not Syncedover again with a glitter bag design. I
mean how f***ing ridiculous is this? The -
Not Syncedfact that Glamour Dolls signed this
contract, did they not have a lawyer -
Not Syncedread it? Like what happened? How did this
get through? From the very jump, this -
Not Syncedshould have just never happened and I'm
sure Glamour Dolls in hindsight is -
Not Syncedthinking the exact same thing. And my
third question is "Why would they start a -
Not SyncedKickstarter in February, knowing that
Lisa's contract was ending in December?" -
Not SyncedBecause that's where they really got
screwed. This is what I'm thinking: I'm -
Not Syncedthinking Lisa designed all of the products
and got everything going for those first -
Not Syncedfour products before the Kickstarter
even started. And that was why Glamour -
Not SyncedDolls wanted to do more work with her.
They were like "Yes, this was so smooth, -
Not Syncedthis was so easy. Let's keep this going a
little longer. We have until December, -
Not Syncedit's only February. We have all this time.
We pushed out those four products pretty -
Not Syncedquickly as far as getting through this
process, so let's do 10 more! We've got -
Not Syncedthis." Glamour Dolls said publicly that
they didn't start having problems with -
Not SyncedLisa slowing down the process until June
of 2017. So that was after the Kickstarter -
Not Syncedhad already started, but before the
estimated ship date that they told the -
Not Syncedbackers of September. And it makes sense
because if they started signing the -
Not Syncedcontract in June of 2016, by February,
they had made and designed 4 products. -
Not SyncedAssuming that Lisa was done with all of
the designs and all of the things and all -
Not Syncedof the approvals by the time that the
Kickstarter started so that's about 8 -
Not Syncedmonths. So they're thinking "Well yeah
this was so easy, we should be able to -
Not Syncedpush out more products by December, by
the time Lisa's contract ends." So now I -
Not Syncedshall present to you the worst case
scenario of Lisa's a raging b****. -
Not Synced[laughter] That's where we're gonna go
with this. This is worst case scenario -
Not Syncedwhat happened, in that Lisa knew her
contract was ending in December, she knew -
Not Syncedthat she could slow down this process in
order to get a new contract in December -
Not Syncedand price gauge the hell out of Glamour
Dolls. She knew that they had already -
Not Syncedpromised all of these products to the
backers. She knew that they probably -
Not Syncedgiven her $125,000 of the backers' money.
She knew that Glamour Dolls was already -
Not Syncedusing the backer money in order to get
these samples and ship them to her. The -
Not Synced$370,000 that the backers had paid,
probably a lot of it was already spent -
Not Syncedbecause that's why they started wanting -
needing more money. They started selling -
Not Syncedthe products on BackerKit, they started
selling the crease brush on their website, -
Not Syncedthey really started courting Hot Topic to
try to sell products over there because -
Not SyncedLisa was taking all of the Kickstarter
backers' money for herself and they were -
Not Syncedusing it for the manufacturing of these
products and they knew it wasn't enough to -
Not Syncedsee this whole project through because
remember they've got 10 products they're -
Not Syncedtrying to make by December. So time
passes, Lisa drags this out, drags this -
Not Syncedout, and then drops the bomb on Glamour
Dolls: "If you want this to continue, -
Not Syncedafter all this money that you spent,
you're gonna have to pay me $500,000, not -
Not Synced$100,000 anymore. It's $500,000 and you
know when you sell to Hot Topic? You're -
Not Syncednot gonna give me 15%, you're gonna give
me 20%." But at that point, they were so -
Not Syncedfar deep in it that they couldn't get out
of it. They absolutely couldn't get out -
Not Syncedof it. Another place that they probably
spent the backers' money was on Wengie -
Not Syncedbecause remember the call that Peter did
with the backers? He mentions very -
Not Syncedbriefly paying for a video. I'll play that
for you. -
Not Synced(Peter): We actually didn't make a profit
off of this Kickstarter campaign. I know -
Not Syncedthat's, um, it's a hard thing for people
to, um, to kind of believe with the size -
Not Syncedof it. But, um, we have to manufacture all
those goods, uh, we have licensing fees -
Not Syncedto pay to Lisa, um, we had to pay for, you
know, uh, for production of the video and -
Not Syncedfor all these different things.
-
Not Synced(Jen) I don't know this for a fact but
I think he took the money from the backers -
Not Syncedand paid Wengie to make that video.
Who knows how much he paid her because -
Not Syncedinfluencer rates back then, you know, it
was brand new, you know, influencers -
Not Syncedgetting paid for sponsored videos and
things like that. I have no idea how much -
Not Syncedthey paid Wengie but I would imagine that
was part of where the money was going and -
Not Syncedwhy they needed to raise more money.
Because now in December, they not only -
Not Syncedhave to get all of these 10 products
manufactured but they also have to pay -
Not SyncedLisa this $500,000. Lisa officially had
Glamour Dolls by the unicorn balls. I mean -
Not Syncedlike, she was-she had them. They had no
choice, in my opinion, if this is the way -
Not Syncedit played out, other than to sign that
contract and just hope for the best. If -
Not Syncedall of this is true - let's say they say
"Screw you Lisa, we're not paying you -
Not Synced$500,000, we're cutting off the contract
now." How do they pay back the backers? -
Not SyncedThey can't. They don't have the money
anymore. It's gone. They don't have the -
Not Syncedmoney to pay back the backers so they are
absolutely screwed. Some other things -
Not Syncedthat I found in the Glamour Dolls part of
the lawsuit that I didn't see when I made -
Not Syncedthe last video that I want to let you know
because now, I imagine at some point, -
Not Syncedthere'll be a part 3 [laughter] of this
video is that they were saying more -
Not Syncedthings about how Lisa interfered with the
production of the product. So in the court -
Not Syncedfiling, it says "Lisa Frank frequently and
unreasonably rejected already manufactured -
Not Syncedsamples without being specific as to the
reason for disapproval." In their filing, -
Not Syncedthey said that there was a problem with
the Ipsy products. They said "in one -
Not Syncedinstance, due to Lisa Frank's failure to
timely provide artwork for the Ipsy sales -
Not Syncedorder, Glamour Dolls missed the artwork
deadline and was forced to pay a fine in -
Not Syncedthe amount of $50,500." The filing
continued on and said that Glamour Dolls -
Not Syncedwas shipping her out samples and then
she'd be like - 10 business days later - -
Not Synced"Oh I lost them, can you send more of
them?" It's like, "wait what? What?" And -
Not Syncedin this case, they may not have more
samples because they requested a certain -
Not Syncednumber of samples from the lab and then
they mail the samples to Lisa Frank and -
Not Syncedthen Lisa loses them so then they have to
ask the lab for more samples and they have -
Not Syncedto pay for that and then get those
samples and then send those - wait for -
Not Syncedthose to come in - then send those to Lisa
and then they have to wait for Lisa to -
Not Syncedapprove those. Do you see how it's just
dragging everything out? And you remember -
Not Syncedhow I said as part of the contract - this
was so, so if this is how it happened - -
Not Syncedthat part of the contract was that Lisa
would get her artwork back and that's -
Not Syncedwhat she did. She used that artwork on the
Morphe products. The artwork she made for -
Not SyncedGlamour Dolls. You can see it on the
Trapper Keeper-style palette that Morphe -
Not Syncedhad made. But to be true to the title of
this video, Lisa says that "Glamour Dolls -
Not Syncedfailed to comply with the inspection and
approval process. Lisa's gonna have to -
Not Syncedprove this in court. She's gonna have to
show them the evidence that Glamour Dolls -
Not Synceddidn't go through the proper approval
process because even if it's unfair - -
Not Syncedthis is the thing about the law - even if
it's unfair, even if it's unreasonable, if -
Not SyncedGlamour Dolls signed that contract and
said that they were gonna follow a certain -
Not Syncedprocess, they had to follow that process,
even if it's bull****. And if Lisa can -
Not Syncedprove that they did things that were
against the process, then she had a right -
Not Syncedto terminate the contract and get her
artwork and then sell it to Morphe. It's -
Not Syncedjust so fu***d up! [laughter] It's just
so messed up! But we definitely need to -
Not Syncedend this video the same way we ended the
last one in that the most current ruling -
Not Syncedby the judge for the 9 claims that Glamour
Dolls has against Lisa Frank - the judge -
Not Syncedonly dismissed part of claim 1. That was
the breach of contract; they partially -
Not Synceddismissed that but the judge says that
Glamour Dolls can go forward on part of -
Not Syncedthe breach of contract and everything
else - including unjust enrichment, fraud, -
Not Synceddefamation, and all of those things -
that they're moving forward with those -
Not Syncedclaims, which means that the judge thinks
that Glamour Dolls has enough evidence to -
Not Syncedsupport that these things happened. Not
that Lisa isn't going to counter with -
Not Syncedsomething else but Glamour Dolls does
have a case to present. And also like I -
Not Syncedmentioned in the last video, the last
court filing for this was January 24th, -
Not Synced2024, so this is going to be ongoing, so I
imagine at some point, there will be a -
Not Syncedpart 3. I don't imagine it will be soon
but I said that last time, so [laughter] -
Not Syncedwho knows? At this point my friend, it is
your turn in the collective brain of -
Not Syncedmakeup awesomeness. I would love to know
your thoughts on this new information that -
Not Syncedwas sent to me and thank you again so much
to the person who calls themself "Fake -
Not SyncedGothic Girl," thank you for sending me the
link to this court document that I -
Not Syncedpreviously didn't have access to. It
really opened my eyes to a lot of things -
Not Syncedand hopefully it added some context to you
- if you watch the first piece - to what -
Not SyncedLisa was saying about what was happening
and what her counter suit is all about. -
Not SyncedLet me know any and all thoughts down in
the comment section down below. Thank you -
Not Syncedso so much for watching, I hope you enjoy.
If you would like to hang out just a -
Not Syncedlittle bit longer, YouTube should be
recommending a couple of videos over here -
Not Syncedto watch. I'm gonna put a previous episode
of "Behind the Controversy" down there. -
Not SyncedIn case you didn't see it, that's a
really good one. If you would like to -
Not Syncedwatch the top one, that one YouTube's
picking for you based on your viewing -
Not Syncedhistory, which video they think that
you're gonna like. But if you gotta go -
Not Syncedcuz you have things that you gotta do,
I get it. Thank you for hanging out as -
Not Syncedlong as you did and mad love to you and I
will see you in a video very very soon. -
Not SyncedBye!
- Title:
- Lisa Frank's Side of the Story - Glamour Dolls Makeup x Lisa Frank PART 2| Behind the Controversy
- Description:
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This is a story of deception, greed, lies, manipulation, and .... unicorns. Today on PART 2 of Behind the Controversy Lisa Frank x Glamour Dolls Makeup, we take a look at Lisa Frank's side of the story through her COUNTERSUIT against Glamour Dolls. What does SHE say Glamour Dolls did to make her back out of their contract and what she STILL thinks Glamour Dolls owes her! Let's talk about it!
PLEASE watch Part 1 first or this video might be confusing: https://youtu.be/1_1ORHKNPLM
@BaileySarian 's Dark History episode on Lisa Frank. She focuses more on Lisa herself, the Jezebel article, and her business practices - https://youtu.be/cNfAuBEwcvo?si=Bn79bCDENtx45M3m
Another video you might like, Unearthing My Kaboodle from the 90's (yes it still has makeup in it) - https://youtu.be/fUeIdIIMoLA
*Time Stamps*
0:00 Intro
3:02 Lisa's Side of the Story
14:15 Question 1: When did Lisa “approve” the Kickstarter?
17:59 Question 2: Why did Glamour Dolls sign this awful contract?
21:07 Question 3: Why did the kickstarter happen knowing Lisa's contract was ending?*Relevant Links*
The Kickstarter - https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/168282293/lisa-frank-makeup-collaboration/posts/2816323
Allure article about the launch - https://www.allure.com/story/lisa-frank-glamour-dolls-makeup
The Kick Further - https://app.kickfurther.com/coop/lisa-frank-x-glamour-dolls-eyeshadow-and-matte-mousse-for-hot-topic-amazon-and-moreThe Jezebel Article - https://jezebel.com/inside-the-rainbow-gulag-the-technicolor-rise-and-fall-1179495705
Lawsuit Press Release - https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/glamour-dolls-inc-files-federal-lawsuit-against-lisa-frank-and-lisa-frank-inc-301310713.html or https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0242/5397/files/Glamour_Dolls_LF_Press_Release.pdf?v=1623354739
The Insider Article - https://www.businessinsider.com/lisa-frank-morphe-makeup-collection-backlash-2020-11?utm_source=yahoo.com&utm_medium=referral
Insider Update - https://www.businessinsider.com/beauty-brand-glamour-dolls-is-suing-lisa-frank-2021-6
Formal Complaint - https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0242/5397/files/Glamour_Dolls_Complaint_FILED_5.27.21.pdf?v=1623339145
Court Documents - https://unicourt.com/case/pc-db5-glamour-dolls-incorporated-v-lisa-frank-incorporated-et-al-920679?init_S=ch_ftrd
Available Court Filing - https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/USCOURTS-azd-4_21-cv-00228/pdf/USCOURTS-azd-4_21-cv-00228-0.pdfApp BuzzFeed Article https://www.buzzfeed.com/annanorth/lisa-frank-app-lets-you-put-stickers-on-your-photo
History of QR codes https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365-life-hacks/privacy-and-safety/brief-history-qr-codes
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