Melting Antarctica Will Shake the World

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Antarctica is melting.

It's all food for thought and action,

you know,

In those days and these claims exist
and some of them actually

thank you for joining us for an update
on this frozen world at the

then we'll finish up with the return
of Marjorie Wilde craft with

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Cooperative Research Centre at the
University of Tasmania Tasmania

With him.

your moniker your state
with the done thing.

First of all what parts of Australia
are closest to Antarctica and

age of heroic exploration.

However,

, namely 63.5 degrees Fahrenheit,

Antarctica that shows some of the
greatest climate warming of

Is that just a freak occurrence
or do you think Antarctica is

And have you been there.

The Congress is the largest growth
you know East Antarctica.

home on our ice breaker which
took 7 considered try.

so not a freak occurrence.

Obviously,

Okay.

means is that we have a whole range
of instruments on an aircraft

These days,

In this modern era either by flying
directly there in a jet plane

what claims does your country
have on that continent.

too.

between Australia and Antarctica.

So it's consistent with that sort
of situation that you're going

whether they have claims to particular
pieces of turf all but I

I don't say that being involved with
the phone day here at home.

okay.

South Pole.

front considerably stand and Niagara
Falls and its 200 meters

we're looking at.

degree Celsius lower that was back
in 1961 and it was even later

You know putting out flags and claiming
things in the name of if

I think that is being more than
twice the size of for you.

Antarctica just experienced the 2
hardest days ever recorded there

It's a feature-length interview
about new science the chills

Obviously I that's currently not
floating on the ocean because

Yes,

For the whole planet,

got there.

There's a lot of action in Antarctica
and that can bring changes

sea.

Think about feel it is this is the
host of surface freezing and

He is a researcher with the Antarctic
climate and ecosystems

same day in late March.

this is certainly something which
could use a lot of people.

all over the world.

to keep getting record breaking maximum
temperatures and that of

We have melting from land ice like
Greenland which does add to the

We're going to the end of the earth.

but on a very grand scale.

from the science were discovering
this week sea levels will rise

is the closest Australian state to
Antarctica Dr. Warner welcome

warming.

It's a giant place.

the title is ocean access to a
cavity beneath glacier in East

around Antarctica in the wintertime.

affect civil rights of a but there
are still Ferraris something

This week on Radio Eco shark.

civilization,

to Radio Eco shock.

continent itself that's due south
of Western Australia and I've

British,

you've hit something that's a little
confusing to some of us we

I'm Alex Smith,

more tips on growing your own groceries.

if you know so I streams and it's
quite focused for likely to top

typically,

You know,

shelf.

Yes,

and wipe a different story for one
we want to tell today that's

Half of the Australian mainland
and well I thought still some

line is is perhaps a useful
one here for a long time.

Well,

He took a very large grace period
driving 540,000 square

kilometers of East Antarctica.

and I think you know everything
is sort of you know and so we

around the planet for centuries
reshaping the coastlines and

recent years.

the lot of mentioning before and
often is channeled into these

because it's only going to fresh
of top layers of the ocean that

well,

which perhaps is not fleeting Antarctica
that's where think was

one big think there isn't actually
coined by anyone at all.

and we fly for hours and hours.

very being ourselves and so if you
do something to change the ice

in the year as a month later was in
April that's so it's only anti

I've heard that was warmer than the
temperature in Britain on the

Got if your that the floating
on the ocean.

So I was a Casey station which is
one of 3 Australian basis on

further things would happen with
sea ice around Antarctica.

volume.

as you alluded Australia does have
a territorial claim to a large

Yes I think twice.

that's certainly true again that
East West Antarctica dividing

white pants down of that
the part of the globe.

perhaps 5° Celsius warmer
over the last 50 years,

polar islands but in Antarctica
seems confusing,

And when that sea ice is forming
the Fiat itself is relatively

tend to overlap,

particularly around the most successful
part then tactic in that.

thick.

the journey begins.

That could affect sea level rises.

It's one of the big seasonal changes
in the Earth's climate system

actually the,

Here to discuss recent sciences
Dr. Roland C warmer.

certainly.

that deep below sea level.

How does it work.

The Argentinian Esperanza Base
on the Antarctic Peninsula.

million square kilometers,

And so just food to fill out is the
story this 70 billion tons of

that governs how people
behave in Antarctica.

That's almost double for
signs of that big,

I think of 3 summer seasons
with heat strain in US,

This is a bit of a mouthful stands
for investigating Christ very

If the law Michael submarine
part of of eastern our state

So if I cheat hadn't developed there.

we didn't really understand how warmer
waters could undermine this

distance away to our south there
are only a few small islands in

or more still needles but
deep and that includes,

I should say that they are itself
is more than 30km wide at the

cap project is we have better defined it.

let's turn to a new scientific paper
you were directly involved in

some places,

and the line below Africa
Australia so the Congo.

retiring stress that's holding back
ice which is flowing typically

This would just the ocean one could
go to work well could go

All right,

Antarctica.

sitting in around towards South America.

rate at which ice flows from a grounded
ice into the ocean and we

But these claims are on
ice and if you will.

I mean it is a real continent
now in a shocking bit of news

I now Wesley serving aircraft reviews
have a radar system that can

but 42% of it,

In the capital city of Western Australia.

the the summit agreed to between
I suppose westwards to the Rafah

Well,

firmly professionally in very
large but that would in fact

all you can think of it as a keystone
you know basically you have

, the fact of the rejuvenated DC
3 genuine World War II vintage

that's floating on the ocean when
it melts well simply filling the

It came to split Antarctic are
up by which in the world,

according to the British Antarctic Survey.

in terms of the level rises ground
a life like Greenland and like

you can see how deep the ocean is
if you fire up and down with on

I'm here in Tasmania of an
island state of Australia.

that's what that that out of ice
that you can collect in half a

actually getting into these cavities
underneath the ice shelves.

They are the ice sheet measuring
many different things and I'm

probably be called fees if they weren't.

station or rather more long way
around changing planes that.

the middle of the Southern Ocean,

it wouldn't have seen major itself,

going to come from.

such been frozen over the ocean itself.

He was like,

And so until they new research
done by a team,

Treaty which was established in
the 1950s and it's that treaty

this floating terminus of both
the problem crisis around a

We need to frame that a bit.

So almost directly below
the city of Perth.

There's only a couple small ice shelves
left attached to Canadian

The progression of ourselves shelves
and the ice sheet is also an

And how did you do the science
to find this out.

West you were list.

think the reason is warming.

Antarctica so less brands when looking
at about 116 he strongly

Under their party.

it's around Antarctica and in the Arctic.

new variations in the strength of
local gravity I'm flying very

to be precise now various countries
establish these claims in an

it might even writers see.

Think of the Antarctic Peninsula
points up to South America and

floor underneath.

believe in effect changes in the
ice shelves are going to be that

US they with murder when flying for
hours and hours allow you know

courtesy of the year old Archimedes
we have you know the guy

Australian state of Victoria for North
American audience audiences

I would like to fall out
of the on story as well.

So this is in fact innocent parties,

evolution through collaborative 2
physical profiling and what that

sure we will discuss today
using that aircraft.

nearby and more importantly all
the pathways by which it can

we've been able to do is to map out
the shape of bedrock beneath

out late.

from here in Havana to the runaway
on the ice cap behind the

this work,

Yeah.

But think you're Antarctica pointing
South America is an area of

interesting one.

that's,

with a little more we don't
quite know them,

And so when I 3 state holidays.

Wilkes.

And I think I see is standing on
the sea floor maybe half a mile

I think it would simply become a
collection of islands you could

but it's very hard to work out
what's the geometry of the sea

And that's big.

Yeah,

French collaborative project this
imaginatively called ice cap.

ski equipped Hercules to land at
and on one occasion I've come

ice flows out of that quite you know
every year that's amazingly

Follow us and the presence of
the ice shelf there provides

They have much in the time left,

will not.

or 17.5° C and that was that.

where the ice is on the ground.

Sea level.

In this case,

It's been compared to pulling
the cork out of a bottle.

sea ice ice shelves and
land based glaciers.

glacier complex say in this century.

now graces around the world and
a sleeping giant in the lift,

from that's that's restraining the
writer was that ice flows into

radio equal shot and orgy.

Maybe one of needing 2 kilometers of

could you just give us a quick update
on the relationship between

It was previously displacing.

It's not part of either or outside
the Antarctic Peninsula.

course one hot days where there
while the trend in hot days who

That's not to say that won't have
an impact on the earth's system

the ice cap.

we've been exploring the aurora Basin,

could phone they do play a
big role in in the future.

Yeah,

don't particularly is parts weaving
between the Greenwich Meridian

where's the tartan glacier
and how big is it.

completely unknown Persia logical pathway.

and transmitting these changes in
the forces of the even further

So there's a lot of life on the moon.

can't penetrate seawater water.

actually what drives a lot of the
deep global ocean circulation

The area where the ocean surface
is predominantly covered by why

somewhere often the ice is very deep
here in Miami Tottenham we're

There were often see Astra meant ships
from getting in and so what

Going to Radio Eco shock I'm Alex
Smith with Australian scientist

So that's the first thing that's
important about the grounding.

it simply going to go off white
given direction of life.

We've known by probing through to
see how thick the ice is and how

that supply and what the consequent
transmission of that affect

for little ice caps are still remain
you where you know Arctic and

about the flow rate of Niagara Falls,

While at 5-year record is is rather
short and some of the longest

It's the place to wants went the
timescale is centuries all of

a big Ice shelf you know talking
of the biggest ones are very

it increases the prospect that what
war can circulate into this

cavity and maybe if the temperature
of the water changes then the

sea level rise and then in the Arctic.

climbed into it was not a theorist
of previous record was only 0.4

So that's not to say that the melting
of things like ice shelves

what will happen in the
rest of the century.

it probably would be better if
it was called the underground

area of all the Great Lakes put together.

Getting thinner near the coast in
fact surface there has been in

quite precise either of you sort of
that was flying in space for a

We'll sea level rises.

It seems parts of Antarctica are
actually below sea level.

The point we were.

If you can fight on almost exactly
the opposite side and

wire what they've done here,

Yes,

to ice shelves previously we had
quite good measurements swimmer

After all,

The extensive areas of East Antarctica
are also seeking on bedrock

fighting are so often means that
he lost 5 meters ice from the

sailing and what developed
in the last 2 years,

but obviously it's moving slightly,

They are also likely reducing this
restraining force they have on

partly as a result of major aerial
survey that we've done with ice

itself and I thought flows eastwards
towards you know a month of

for the gatekeepers particularly
for Antarctica in terms of the

the major drivers in changing the
dynamics of the whole why she

have sea ice which doesn't directly
add to sea level rise.

Is that the amount that actually
reaches the sea every year.

This guy thing you know you know that
these guys have done a great

And I think he is from some writer
satellites that were measuring

Yes we can in we're already seeing
some small contribution to sea

Do we know.

alcohol plant.

might be more helpful to say that
somewhat more than twice the

Yet the only turning to do it through
water or flowing into the

lines themselves my move.

it's important because it's the place
where suddenly the base of

But this gravity days are allowed
us to map is inaccessible

The melting away all the changes
in ourselves don't directly

we're forcing system a lot faster
around them any natural forcing

Yep,

the,

Well,

We were fixing the the deep political
be overturning circulation

fresh from the salt water on that
they could become smug Saltire

fail from the Pacific to the Atlantic
without having to go past

I think that I think to be really
on the sea floor and as its

we're changing the climate so fast
compared to what happened in

Sub-glacial basin which is
immediately to its east.

we heard inside the bedrock channels
that connect that deep cover

which is.

I flew in Antarctica is concentrated
into major quite fast moving

There's a lot of the West.

In a comment on that article,

tartan glacier.

If you see half a meter change
in the surface height of the

How is that possible.

is actually.

year maybe 15 years here.

Yes,

You know they mean you have to
fit now and there's a lot of

Well,

scuffle what event.

level since obviously
water flows downhill.

On the second thing that's
important is this,

Harris,

they said.

. Any sort of water surface Rep
Of in fact commonsense idea of

Yes.

dynamics of the system will change.

melting which is already quite
extensive and therefore the

going to have to work against I see
my thing on the whole the deep

detailed work to figure out how
those tiny variations in the

which is a vast area in the catchment
of Tottenham life here and

it's true that one,

accelerating.

I do this comes back to that.

these is ideal for that sort of survey.

learned in the last 2 decades
that near these crowning line

we had a very sense the gravity
money before long we mention my

You know my fixed gaze and then having
to follow through their and

but in fact merely hosting the
3 level with pregnant fall

We also have some magnetometers to
try and figure out what sort of

far down that is bedrock
company we've known.

So we don't see the bottom of an
icy so we only 3 the bedrock

speeding up,

There's a lot of uncertainty about
what will happen on Antarctica

were pretty dramatic in terms of
sea level rise 20,000 years ago

which is actually slightly fresh
link the Antarctic coastal

melting going on there.

of the top of the person says that
this already some considerable

You're going to do something to change
the whole balance of forces

as the world climate changes.

increase some nice discharge
from Antarctica.

Is that correct and what would that
continent look like without

neighboring ourself called the Moscow
University herself and the

it's 2 miles thick and in particular,

but if you people are taking
this very seriously.

comes from the Arctic Roland Warren.

when was great Hemisphere ice sheets
and decayed but certainly

strength of work or gravity can be
translated into what death of

particularly from Antarctic ever trauma.

me open ocean to the charity and
this includes a previously

forces towards the Mars and eventually
there comes a point where

they've only been a few idealized
computer simulations trying to

It's likely that this is an extremely
thing to be part of of the

glaciers melt.

that's these apply I'd be a little
surprised if it was actually

see right through to the base for
the iPhone and can even see lot

I think you into countenance does
provide a little bit of a

of efforts and because of
the immense scrutiny.

talking about a transition point
that's probably a mile below sea

of internal structure through
the life as well.

If you like another channel,

and Gracie actually starts to to
go afloat whenever we just a

the ocean.

particularly in some configurations
of the bedrock these grounding

could do was say this additional
contribution would not exceed

the grounding line,

meant he was such a such a probability
percentage but when it came

what we think is one of the controllers
of Chinese in the ICC and

The the the melting even is grounding
aren't these 10s of meters

so it's only important and it's
important in terms of what we,

ocean,

but with changing the composition
of the atmosphere,

Yeah,

past times what do you
think about all that.

Cape Horn and he can talk,

snowfall that it's not really clear
that that can dominate the

of,

said that turned out because I feel
even sicker than we thought in

Quote it is plausible that even if
the Earth's average temperature

recent years and have a few years,

around Antarctica and Greenland
may actually go down as the

One of the flotation line,

and so he's corrective driver for
changing climate is no longer be

He is the sea surface around the
ice sheets and so it work,

but it's certainly anything parking.

one has to be careful about he was
financial planners tell you

seafloor off the coast.

really hard problem because given
look I shelf it's floating.

really,

near the surface and very slowly.

in that reduces its attraction and
a bit of a surprise intuition

And Lori tab and also talked about
the irony that sea levels

You know,

level rise and I'm not sure of that
anybody's total all I have.

erosion but because beginning Feb.

Rulon C Warner Rowland,

The real wildcard when we think
about the impact of Antarctic

melting of ourselves and it's
changing the follow.

circulated to weigh up all the
continental shelf and kind of

To spend a lot of talk between scientists
about the importance of

can we expect any measurable sea
level rise from the Tartan

to the coast of of the aurora based
around the world so called

heard contacted us can radio an
equal shot of Darfur and that's

We now know that it's possible to
get water in there and dynamics

convinced that we removed
all the are with that,

Ground a life behind used to working
out is the warm ocean water

character and actually underlying
the ICC most importantly for

Because the of us you know crisis
dream that forms the life here

which is certainly not going
to happen any time soon,

you know shit,

increasing and at a faster rate.

Obviously it's very maybe 140 knots,

perhaps in the fantastic haunts.

Yes,

if the it image arises.

upstream.

level.

part the performance is guaranteed
a future performance,

So it's not just a matter of bringing
more iced up to her.

Welshman cavities underneath ourselves
and indeed to map the

most serious finding is that there
are some deepwater channel that

the way that works is that will
be crucial question for getting

we might get that much from Antarctic
melting alone plus what

in those places where there out
like have been observed to be

Is it just the ice shelves or
is ice loss from Antarctica

one of the hot spots where they
definitely ice loss in terms of

what if you're losing what sort of
advice billions of tons a life

you get 2 meters or 3 meters of
sea level rise from Antarctica

what is that.

ice and water a raucous directly
below your 5 track so I right I

So I think that the changing dynamic
response is going to be quite

that in North America,

he said.

snowfall on Antarctica may actually
increase with climate change.

We don't really know in detail how
future climate high increase

of the worst that can happen is they
might eventually old me on,

by by any swimmers stand I'm
very close to freezing.

from above,

isn't it.

bit for it to carry a lot of heat
campaign turns away he can be

melting I've just gone through a
paper by lead author Fernando

you know several tenths of a meter
cover the everywhere from you

around them towards them.

Right.

over weapons from listen carefully
calibrated on for me in terms

The Grammy moments probably really
more bizarre and it is winnable

you know,

entwined.

In fact,

the ice sheet is not protected
by by being on the ground and

Northwest.

don't want to really high shelves
and then by weakening ourselves

sort of exhilaration the life
and we've already seen.

And if you know the story ideas
or thoughts on something you've

put this in.

Of course with what they think might
happen under a whole range of

And given that the water was doing
that and they'll think it still

climate system.

or a hot interview with proper garden
wizard Marjorie Wilde is

non-scientist Dr. awarded to understand
is the prediction that

That's a sufficient gravitational
attraction to pull the ocean

Yeah,

we're talking at least in centuries.

Shelf,

it's interesting that in some ways
and they they do fit being

on the I'm this is almost about as
far south as you can actually

marine sectors of Antarctic ice sheet
if initiated could make fee

It's been dropping by maybe Vermeer
and a half per year.

and and they'll it's not possible
that the grounding itself will

In fact the FTSE service mission
with precision from space shows

the height and ice shelves and so
they've been able to conclude

this is,

migrate inland reducing the 5 on
the ground and the high street

because obviously so far the Antarctic,

actually worryingly the from space.

carried by changes in air temperature.

they level contributions from the itself.

And that may be partly due to
slowly fighting other thing.

Well,

inside it's looking pretty recently
insightful from both us anyway

Well,

actually work against Antarctic ice
sheet melting and he goes on

I'm eager think in that some
of the studies the need.

commences and I should say that
it's again something we've only

From the of these on hold in Antarctica,

which has tended to have an influence
on on Antarctic climate but

I see.

would depend on whether you had
factored in this compensating

it's not that the warming air temperatures
going to melt he sings

and nearby streets.

northerly parts of Antarctica where
temperature and from a mill

to say that that past a records
may not tell us a lot because

all along we've talked about West
Antarctica and East Antarctica

know 20cm to the best part of a meter.

one of the scientists Lori
pad been expressed.

The IPCC hands they do put a lot
of effort into qualifying.

it's so shocking if would rearrange
civilization altogether if we

going to be that the biggest influence
on Antarctic trying.

but level rise would be,

Yeah,

Antarctica in terms of this very deep
bedrock well below sea level

but by virtue of currents and the
topography of them Continental

that that idea down here only.

he's already warming and you've
only got to warm water a little

matter of a few weeks of a few
ourselves in the Antarctic

to Antarctica they they finally
had to give up on that,

which is what the reasons we have
interested but so in terms of

observation for growing putting
the icing on on the sky often

This comes out why the overall effect
that you put that all into

And even that may help speed
glacier movement to the sea.

it's very clearly losing harness
and there's pretty good evidence

level rise substantially above the
unlikely range the best they

but you can actually seeing Greenland
the seasonal arrival of the

I think that 30 increased
melting of ourselves.

suddenly the possibility of wish
and driven melting the UMP

but clearly warmer air can hold more
moisture and everybody does

So this really is the most uncertain
contribution towards her long

at some distance around
Antarctica do manage,

However,

because it tells you something like
60 millions feeling harassed,

Apollo titled volume loss from
Antarctic ice shelves is

changes in West Antarctica,

the high street and in fact they
are when they see the biggest

but I think the Democratic response
really driven by the ocean is

You're listening to shock radio
before the world and.

You know it.

I think we certainly expect that
the most think is not yet

telling us that the eye soothing
cinnamon falling off or by

where we know that when the warm ocean
currents circulate normally

in the Antarctic Peninsula.

playing a big role in the rather
dramatic disintegration over the

It's hard for people to
understand that it's,

Because,

one of that sort of analysis
to Antarctica on Greenland.

particularly because some of the
areas further but changing the

the key question was sea level rises
always when and we discussed

job in trying to improve our understanding
about what's happening

which it means that those who level
rises more than you might have

eventually get that much but as you say,

doing a relic later is falling.

that ice shelves are certainly on
the whole it so they're losing

be in a better position to sort out
influence in that process of

Can you talk to us about that please.

factors.

few years showing that these ice
shelves of getting home and I'm

You can actually seeing this actually
isn't very much is at the

Antarctica.

the current response.

No,

Before you actually bumping into
Antarctica and you know it's

in the,

seasonal variations,

And in particular the vast method
ice on these grounds.

Yeah,

Modulated by all sorts of things
like currents and winds of other

some scientists including the Intergovernmental
Panel on climate

term 3 level prediction things like
a federal expansion of the

channels can anything that out towards
the new some of that is a

ocean pretty well on the
controlling terms,

go towards the interior of the
ice sheet and so there is a

the new mines to come into all the
here and certainly here so that

recall that's available actually heavenly.

This is Radio Eco shock were talking
with Australian Antarctic

receiving the sort of squandering
warming that's been so dramatic

increases effect on ocean currents
around Antarctica might

Antarctica will add to the world's
oceans during this century.

possibility.

graces of often fairly hard to do
at least and I thought we were

for that rate of losses XL or anything
that comes from the direct

if you like,

Well,

I mean last century.

sort of,

It's only warmer air temperatures
will generate some higher

And in fact this part of the marine
instability there is a

there is really nothing putting feel
right away in the bank and it

itself accelerates the 4 out of the ocean.

he said.

we might see phenomenal wing of recognize
from what we presently 3

Yes the,

initiate the citizenry nicely collapse it.

it is you know finally unforgiving
question the contribution,

What they mean by being uncertain
about something and you know you

spot.

the Milinkevich the so called ice
age cycle I do those changes

We will increase and part seems
studies that suggest that that

And this generates an an up slope in.

very little change may be some
slight overall increase,

expected far away from you know I
think there are some estimates

high and that's so hard to see who
we can avoid conveying that

a thousand years to establish some
new equilibrium then with do

, coming up with numbers of the regardless
comforted by also have

the observational evidence we have
fallen further Oval Office the

realizing as we discussed earlier
is these parts of East

can go and look at their tables and
if they say very likely there

you know,

overall it is Antarctica,

most practically at the moment in
the area of of Antarctica and so

The story.

We can tell that within topic is
where currently mostly action is

although this area around the Tottenham
place is one of the hot

expert Dr. Roland Warner another
complication difficult for

several tents ultimately tire during
the 21st century now for be

Back on them.

So,

this is quite amazing it another one
of these obvious in hindsight

others think that's a very
conservative estimate,

expect that that's not
fault when Antarctica.

these variations.

change suggest total sea level rise
by 2100 may only be one meter

Don't forget,

there with it.

we don't,

without weighing flight increases
a whole stability in East

and now that we've gone an improved
picture of what the state

just keep on going and it will
continue to retrieve and you

and while I think that everybody
collapse of these so called

but do we have enough science
yet to really know how much

for the paradigm for this.

going on there,

stabilizer to to grabbing line retreat
if 3 we will media actually

losing mass staying the same
or gaining ice mass.

the global 3 level,

to what for the phone global warming
practical trajectory we we

Right now,

considerably more and in fact,

Right will be that we just had,

they've done enough on bedrock profiling
there again using his

high penetrating radar system to
say they can't see any obvious.

20 years ago so that you know if
you think it's going to take out

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fall of the ice surface,

I should just say there's the bad
news consequence of local effect

explore how the ocean circulation
moves underneath my shelves and

happening in these 2 halves
compared to each other.

find was.

What do you think.

the response of the forcing and perhaps
in East Antarctica in the

to come up.

Are there any generalizations
you can give us about what is

you might get 25% more than global
average the level but when

matters.

seeing these these biggest changes
and it is one of the places

continue to lose a life until you
finally managed to heavy rice

I think the renewed last year so
we there so that they'll stall

that's,

In general terms and global sea level
rise the IPCC is as you say

Dr. Warner are we able to say whether
in total Antarctica is

prospect of if the grounding line
is starting to move inland it'll

part of in times of system model,

But what will have to go somewhere.

and I think what's happening in this
I'm I'm simply region with a

I think that for various different
climate warming scenario now

we'll be doing more so they work
with area geophysical surveys

as though they were almost separate
parts of the puzzle.

that is ice breaker to the front of
the Tottenham away if you know

the,

This is rather uncertain and the
prospect is good you can keep on

get some maintenance and so we
do know that the warm water is

we need to topple assistance together
eventually that will become

you an opinion about how much of the
response might vary according

things on the surface of these ice
shelves is actually certainly

in fact,

it's quite impressive.

previously thought they could well
be that it's simply a matter of

this a little bit,

below,

If you were a 15th century make
you probably writing here be

the problem remains a major
interest for us,

and we know what's some of
these part of Antarctica.

described as if they were
2 different worlds,

disappearance of ice from space either
by seeing the change in the

and ecosystems Cooperative Research
Centre has on the go.

I mean it's actually that their
annual cycle quite visible,

with oceanographic instruments
that were deployed by drilling

is a resort.

with what we think of the most pressing
issues even part of the

Neil anchor points that would
stop further retreat,

scene Greenland in Antarctica,

on in the Pacific Ocean,

The talking from space.

but it's also not a useful
you know in member.

big dumps of snow that come in the
winter and the great a loss of

That's certainly what we're seeing,

From Hobart Tasmania.

lot more like West Antarctica in
terms of its setting people

The experts think that in maybe another
year of observations will

So we got a useful worst case scenario,

It is likely to be enough.

We are back after the online grow
your own food summit with the

starts to get involved in it,

Temperatures are still well although
for you think that that we're

homely namely myself this is extent
I think biggest ice shelf in

panics is it necessary to have everybody
in your family on board

with this prep gardening style
right from the get-go.

still to come.

to his that is a lot of life there
we finally passed on the fact

found ourselves on.

you know the risk for me,

sheep catch itself on some bedrock
features and so on the state of

effect on of high rates of
snowfall in Antarctica,

a snack bar,

ecosystem area and so we have a major
overarching projects on this

certainly an important
compensating effect,

instruments in the ocean underneath
enormous find out what's

can take understood however that
you start to flow back so it's

So it's,

Peninsula.

Heisman tactics because we can
actually directly made the

particularly in snowfall,

It's still going to be very cold,

the power of our ocean water.

Alaska have retreat process.

Yeah,

Mars.

couple of them being places they like
white guys here is they feel

, and just this time January where
they did actually verify the

still a few places,

we,

over the summer,

you know,

Yes I think NASA so came out
and said that the process is

but we ended up going with this,

we don't have a thousand
kilometers long and,

the effect all of warmer air temperature
at least in the more

channels by which water is gonna
make its way onto the ice.

it's at the hotter ocean reaching
in is going to weaken them from

Centre Dr. Roland.

you know if I think there is things
are not quite clear because

for my husband and my and that's
the reason they like it is,

it,

This seems to be 2 separate worlds.

You know,

Well,

what we,

feet wide and it has 150 gallon
fish tank and you know I had

unstoppable.

Australia's Antarctic climate and
ecosystems Cooperative Research

Yeah,

If I.

it's actually 2 biggest unknown
in trying to predict what sea

West Antarctica.

is is being filming.

You know the plants just grew better
the fish created the waste

underneath the problem looks like,

We've been talking about tonight.

world in some warmer started.

There's been a blatant.

Last week,

level to expect and in fact the IPCC
felt they couldn't even give

Fantastic areas that's the place
with his most consistent I floss

So what sort of year they were centuries.

get back and try to maybe had its
with a little bit more benefit

truly sustainable agriculture have
you experimented with the food

first time anybody's got this for
the coming crop of Tottenham.

food.

They do require energy.

Antarctica is 3rd largest myself and
we've had field program there

producing for 5 to 10 years.

ground and I behind with the ocean
because on as if your melting

but has currently started so when
the IPCC said market get more

unlike Social Security,

the electrical grid which is another
reason we had avoided it

future,

Tell us about your Aqua panic set
up what have you done there.

So what we trying to do is create
systems like that and then they

in.

ocean driven election of the Antarctic
ice and Billy always

that talking on the phone.

turning you know you're so that
will often with Antarctic it

We don't need and then they they
find what they can you know the

exploring them prices a bedrock
and Antarctica we're used to be

Well,

I actually I wasn't Central
Texas and my homestead,

I guess the better just get a deeper
and deeper and deeper as you

to be able to grow having your own
food in a backyard cyberspace

that I see is sitting on this this
well below sea level rock.

there's lot cherry tomatoes that
grows so well in the summertime.

and I go forward talent and so far
it seems to be working very

But once you get them established
they're much much less work than

but people I convinced that you know
cutting observations longer

work at just being published.

garden.

That's a very good practice we rely
very heavily on 2 dogs to do a

where you grow your food in the
way you operate your homestead

that's it.

just you know go and do what they
do anyway with growing your own

which we hope to get to where it.

I'd say that the vast.

will allow us through to sort out
trends without the confusion of

I'm Alex Smith reporting for Radio Eco.

experiments.

that's why food Forrester such and
it's it's a real retirement

When I was doing part time
firming in eastern Canada.

It used to be a penny bugs and you'd
have them go through the rows

They have a reluctant spouse or
reluctant children and so they

Ingrid down or open that sustainability
type of situation,

So that work will be continuing and
we've also got film programs

Well,

with.

harvesting.

Pack I just 5 permanent captain was
brave enough to try only and

Let's talk about prepping for past
side built 2 big raised their

they are right,

but will be going back dramas again
and the big step forward is to

that will said the plants and
and it worked really well,

scraps from when we do butchering
and then they offered just get

giving and they could keep on giving
even if we stabilize the

so they don't really require a lot
of input and they do a lot of

it does need a little bit more
monitoring like that,

it's quite serious on their own and
the other thing about and how

and things like that which actually
ended up being the attraction

the,

Well,

organizer Marjorie while Kraft Marjorie
remind us just once again

As I'm not a huge proponent of
that and fermentation also as

One of the other complications several
areas west Antarctica is

No,

through nearly a thousand meters
of of ice shelf and appalling

creatures that are gonna
eat out of your garden.

Naturally they don't need to be irrigated
and they often you know

but one of the Dodgers' even really
good at spotting overhead

could catch up to our canning
and drying I like adding a

It was protected from extremes
of heat and cold.

which we never really know
if that's come along.

things are happening on Holmgren
Earth's lower scale,

You know it's canvas often closest
Amin away but it is tricky and

ones out there and it has worked really
really well now we do tend

The idea of a food forces you create
an area that mimics nature in

civil rights and we can't really
quantify it if we start to

initially we were initially always
developing our systems for

we still don't have had detailed
bedrock there but sadly the map

always initially avoided alcoholics
because it's a little bit high

But we,

also how the resulting water
affects the external,

it did work.

fermentation as well as the health
benefits turns up at that

if you've got some really
tasty food out there.

protected from the wind.

favorite.

there was an area where they were,

that's that's a lot of work to manage
a couple of caterer this you

So a good fence around your
garden is just a reality.

State University created this model
there's there's lots of other

But for the rest we always planned
a little extra for all the

fermented foods really help your
gut bacteria and help you to

Do you.

It'll make can all must be out there
in your yard treating it like

What about you.

tech you know it's going to involve
motor motors and pumps and and

the insects then you wanna kick'em

store to plant a small orchard right now.

within it.

I have no idea what they were,

for and by the way,

it almost sounds like we're trying
to discover some things about

I should say time Damon
Green down from them.

immediately that my plants are
stressed and they need some

talking exploration and we would
gather that stay there in an

the times when we had a wet period
that is definitely a technique

you know,

It's possible always seeing the
first stages and already.

Part of the whole planet
without them person,

handle the heavy work,

which is a the lapels,

That's going to be a.

problems for more than golfers.

One of the realities of having beautiful
food source like that as

But we're working on it.

Those kids will be out there playing
with it and that's one way to

What do you think.

You know it's a mile deep beneath the ice,

You know he arrives and
what was living in,

actually arriving there at the front
of the charity and with this

I really appreciate it.

the bottom of changing geometry of
that that changes were talking

hear from gardeners all over the world.

One example was one time my sweet
potato showed up with these

annual gardens.

we,

one of the best ways to get them
on board is when you're

it's.

University of Texas in Austin
we now think that we can the

dragons vigorous,

You know activities range from voyages
with we had a voyage where

we've built one and I believe it's
like 30 feet long by about 12

they were and alien Beatles.

maybe 2 ground based survey the of
whole previous 50 years I had

little bit more watching for example
that pump goes out your fish

there are times when we got so much
food more that we could give

you know I mean anybody even hardly
an example Leslie Leslie

Please tell us about a couple of
projects the Antarctic climate

While it does try.

only have so long before they're
gonna need oxygen and and die so

block that prevents them in their
own minds from getting going on

Yeah warranties real gem we've
had on radio shock and I still

You know,

for the poor on preserving
food that's a very useful.

grain.

nutrition content of the
food you're eating.

large part of the protection
from the predators here,

No,

digest a lot better.

Thank you so much for sharing
your time with us.

videos your best selling grow your
own groceries course that you

You know what hearing you talk,

It's amazing that we're finding
out as much as we do.

Personally,

actually going on in these rather
the inaccessible parts of the

we've already been doing most circulation
more studies to try and

Arc upon access tomorrow.

there they drop their leaves their
self marching you know they

8-hour flight and Soviet with further
citing it in there were

Well,

it's a,

physical health much longer but eventually
we may not be able to

they will scratch about so aren't
that after all your YouTube

face.

We've been talking with Dr. Roland
C Warner he's a researcher with

We had the couple of acres,

you talked about getting her husband
and son on board with aqua

I do too.

The only chemical are used as wrote
known it's made from ground-up

technical as you say I I've
been avoiding it so far.

them to everybody really I feel Alex
this solution is gonna come

doing Iacocca where have no no no,

Isn't it strange.

toward us there more investment
in time getting up and started

it's very difficult to peer around,

growing their own groceries.

and medicine.

there's still some production of
food and animals and wildlife

Majority of of people who will
consider themselves peppers.

one thing is to have a more first.

I would say though,

that's probably one of the things
you're most Hungarian for in

start coupling the dynamics of the
ice shelves the flow of the

that's a whole library of documents
to support it and I,

some way and if you look at the forest.

He's a rock star okay with with that
then and I just doesn't have

bottom to keep both the morals of
seem to love by rich garden soil

You know you're gonna be needing
some solar power wind power or

by the way at the homegrown food summit.

planet.

I don't see them very much because
I give them the butchering

Center dedicated to finding systems
and developing systems for you

You know,

heads out of some years lumber
but I put a wire lying on the

try to get them,

seasons those sugar snap peas are
delicious were strawberries.

Marjorie while Kraft have
become kind of a,

as you did with personal food growing
and I could also call that

are nearby and I find them invaluable
they they work all night

know in your later years.

and then they dump out bugs in the
account and then you pay them

your life.

what is a food for us.

we don't know a lot of things it.

out of the garden because then they'll
start scratching up the

feedback to her.

back home on each flight there,

Exactly,

plan,

and every plant in there is edible
or medicine or beneficial in

We have one presentation by Kendra
Lynn who'll be showing you how

we thought that if I cap survey come
Casey staging of us and say

I I have to say that it is definitely
easier to grow food in the

and here's the gardening method
that years because this is the

but on the other hand,

squash she's come up with a couple
of varieties that are resistant

Those kids will be out there fighting
forum and in the cooler

machinery go I can do it and we also
have already Hamann is going

experimenting with using castor beans
as a mole repellent and of

Whether you like it or not.

and less than an hour a
day pretty tall order.

Things that they're discovering
in there that that they're

What would you say the number one
concern people razor or the

she's publishing that work on our
our blog and making it available

They have really good rich soil
will help reduce your insect

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liquid seaweed or some homemade
compost or something.

I think most people think that it's
gonna be a lot of work and

it's all about,

Our first year of experiments are
all that way it does require a

you know to 2 videos that they chose
you all those components and

look at this is the size.

because a lot of your fruit and
nut trees are not gonna start

roots of a South American plant and
Robert rodeo used it I had to

So a real retirement plan is going
to be to play at the food for

We've been talking with Marjorie
while craft of grow your own

What I would recommend is just get
started and the family actually

bestseller,

grow food other places that are doing
that are starting to become

get them involved with it without
it even being proper saying

and squash is such a good
important calorie crop.

I don't even impressed with those systems.

but I found that that model even
worked well during the summer's

it's a good system.

It's a lot easier to just harvest
apples and it is to be planting

away trade even that we needed to
freeze some at least until we

to do water about caning and how to
do pressure canning and what I

I can give you some of the best
vegetables to grow for kids.

you know,

insects first but I watch them innocent
of their gun getting all

That's one of the most delightful
times especially with kids I got

blog published Wednesday that it shock.info
or listen to the sound

doing all the work of the annual garden.

of the squash vine borer which is
a horrible problem for people

You know it's strange a start following
your heart into something

and colored foil on the top of that
to keep the deer from jumping

dehydration they don't depend
on the grid staying up.

And then we have a whole article
on how to channel rabbit hides

beetle.

. And in the garden things take
2 to 3 months to mature.

It's also were also such an instant
gratification such high if it

they mostly sleep all day.

check out her blog once a week and
it's important to keep up with

is a pretty big block.

you've got the strength and energy
to have that going and then you

learning and we're very excited
about that and want to develop

It's actually still we we controlled
by the big companies.

well in fact Castro used to be
known as as no go for plant.

that further well actually creating
also a network of places just

Here's the water tanks were set
up to catch rainwater and oh by

know we all need to be used as much
organic processors as possible

Farmers around here used to throw
their pitches up on a Hot Tin

You talked about not needing refrigeration
or freezers that we

normally when I see an insect
outbreak like that I think

bigger catcher rabbit here and there,

It's really,

and the trees,

really valuable research on of
a crop that's resistant to the

foot garden and so she's been doing
all these experiments were

a one-woman movement on your own.

It was almost what by chrome shell.

is it too soon to tell.

it's kinda hard.

use it for the Colorado potato beetle
if you have a big planning a

But in the short term immediate
what I do that.

We all know gardening can help seniors
maintain their mental and

Well I love food for us and I have
to say this is my particular

I'm Alex Smith reporting
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She's very passionate about Squire
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Do you have one.

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it really is easier and part of that
here in Central Texas it was

you are going to need to have some
fencing or some protection from

Well,

I have a big problem that we have
a lot of sand here and I've been

the classic thing was something like
a couple of acres of potatoes

that you plant trees and bushes and
vines and honorable way errors

A 4th does not need any tending right
you go to a pristine forest

that one of my goals is
to build a solar dryer.

nutrients you know some some some
sort of nutrient thing and I'll

Roof on one of their shepherds and
solar dried them that way and

of coming up with real solutions
for you to create your own food

that you could do this,

Let's talk about perma culture that's
another major contender for

you can get their systems up and
running in about 6 months and be

how can we set up a garden to keep
going with very little effort.

could just munch away through the
fresh food season but I have to

Unfortunately our own government.

And you really need to keep this
out of the garden right and

Way to grow food.

So some of these techniques are actually
I can help increase the

I'd love to do it now Marjorie what
will your next project be or

that we'll be able to use those effectively
or you know we've got

Well,

personal liberty,

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as some people have a fear of those
big pressure because they are

they've learned how to manage
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we're looking at doing some stuff
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garden.

the way we overbuilt it
it was a huge mistake.

I do,

I'm a locksmith.

a garden and here's another place
we started a garden and these

of the natural news and possibly
working on some developing some

Could still work today if it gets
a neighborhood kids going well

squirrels or rabbits.

one,

You know,

to be doing a whole thing on how
to how to preserve food by

Other people are trying it and duplicating
our work and getting

most efficient one and I've
tried all these other ones,

and here's my flock of chickens
and here's the reason I have'em

is to pay the kids.

I talk about you know butchering a rabbit.

potatoes.

our about 7 feet high and then we
dangle little pieces of cloth

aerial hawks and Barking and letting
everybody know when the Hawks

. What else can we do to encourage
passed to stay out of the

everything else that loves to eat
your food like raccoons or

Alex.

There's no longer a concern about
they've built them there now

and by individuals and neighbors
working together and that's the

This is gonna be a problem that can
only be solved by you and me

We do I used a model based on its
side believe it's Appalachian

the USDA is not here to help us.

you know I just take you and show
you everything that I go through

work.

We've done.

we haven't yet figured that out.

like,

But here's where we put our other
garden and this is working,

whatever table scraps.

year.

whole reason for for what I do is
working at this grassroots level

We don't know and we have a very
active network of people they

network together and sharing results
and making it available to

these big intimidating things and
there's the stories of them

love about it is,

Monsanto is not here to help us,

to be a bit drier here in Texas,

shark.org.

There's a lot on the table,

how to how to build one.

last week.

Well,

So that's what it's,

there's no way to squash
all those bugs by hand.

blowing up and stuff,

She has done really,

producing half your own food in
less than an hour a day by next

Thank you for listening and I hope
we will get together again next

that used to be the he to get rid
of the goods but Colorado potato

it's basically like me taken you
by the hand and taking you

like our place where we're doing
research on different ways to

take my son can with barbed work
on a guitar and look at the Xbox

they're not going to get much
production out of it.

But when you see Kendra.

but this is the one that I really
like and here's where I keep the

contribute.

Parsons works still works full
time and she only has a small

So you know she's only doing this
part time in a 200ft² garden.

another as another method of food storage,

right.

Who is this flight and beautiful
woman just handling that

The chickens in there and chickens
are naturally insect they love

it's only a review as about this week.

Now let me ask you do you let
chickens interior garden.

This is how it's gonna happen.

and like in 5 minutes.

from you and for me and from,

then again that library
the resource library.

home-grown food summit and watch
that presentation I have on how

to grow half year on food in your
backyard in less than an hour a

Well know said it's it's 2 DVDs
and then it includes a CD-ROM

Take a look at that and say you know
that'll really inspire you do

groceries.com her DVD Guide to Growing
in your own backyard is a

you know.

her free YouTube videos and growing
your own food a really popular

you do with all the parts
of those animals.

to other people and creating a
whole discussion about it now.

Thank you so much for helping all of us.

ND and in even the maturing
process viewers how you,

are the reasons why those gardens
totally sucked in failed.

We've got a whole,

outweigh their fertility can help
me and it's real simple and easy

to do this.

Don't forget to follow up on links
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here's my orchard and all the
experiments with the trees.

we've got a lot of irons in the
fire and after this summit,

I want to take your DVD course what's
in it and why does it cost.

then you teacher communicate you
connect a normal suddenly you

Thanks for having they are.

through my homestead here and showing
you how I grow food and I'm

I really appreciate it.

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for the 4th but I tell you what I'd
really recommend you go to the

So you know I talk about a rainwater
collection system.

programs to get local food into schools.

but your rabbit and here's how you
butchered chicken India is what

I'm dropping my own garden right
now with raised beds,

And this is why these died in of lived in,

we're going to look at what
will have the most impact,

to be able to have more home-grown
food on every table,

15 years ago our view to told me
what I will girl what I'd be

or you know you know life
is amazing adventures a.

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of that in my shell blog equal
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Well,