Freedom: The Path To Happiness | Ajahn Brahm
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0:01 - 0:04I had a request for a talk yesterday,
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0:04 - 0:06which I promised I would give today,
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0:06 - 0:09for someone who is asking the question,
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0:09 - 0:11"Is happiness really possible
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0:11 - 0:13in our modern life,
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0:13 - 0:15or are we always going to have to
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0:15 - 0:17have suffering and problems
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0:17 - 0:19and difficulties in our life?"
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0:19 - 0:24So, it's a talk about happiness
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0:24 - 0:28and obviously, many of you know that
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0:28 - 0:30Buddhist monks are supposed to be
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0:30 - 0:32the happiest people in the world -- that
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0:32 - 0:34was the findings from Professor
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0:34 - 0:37Davidson of Wisconsin University.
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0:37 - 0:40And, that's objective
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0:40 - 0:42in other words, that's what they
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0:42 - 0:44find on a functional
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0:44 - 0:47Magnetic Resonance (fMRI) scan
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0:47 - 0:50So, surely that Buddhists should know
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0:50 - 0:54something about happiness and its causes.
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0:54 - 0:55And for those of you who know basic
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0:55 - 0:57Buddhism, that's the whole purpose of the
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0:57 - 0:59Four Noble Truths.
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0:59 - 1:02The basic teachings of the Buddha, the
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1:02 - 1:04heart of this thing we call, "Buddhism."
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1:04 - 1:06You may say, and it's accurate
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1:06 - 1:08to say, it's all about the Four Noble
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1:08 - 1:10Truths, and you also know that the
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1:10 - 1:12way I've been teaching the Four Noble
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1:12 - 1:14Truths for many years now, is
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1:14 - 1:17rearranging the Four Noble Truths
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1:17 - 1:19and talking about: happiness, it's cause,
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1:19 - 1:21sometimes we are happy, and why
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1:21 - 1:22we're not happy.
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1:22 - 1:24Those four Noble Truths:
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1:24 - 1:27happiness, the cause of happiness,
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1:27 - 1:29that sometimes we're unhappy,
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1:29 - 1:31why we're unhappy.
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1:31 - 1:33And, that to me made so much sense
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1:33 - 1:34when I was a young man, because
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1:34 - 1:36really I thought the essence of all
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1:36 - 1:39religions was basically the answer to
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1:39 - 1:41two questions: "what is happiness"
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1:41 - 1:44and, "how do I get it."
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1:44 - 1:46If I knew those two answers, then you'd
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1:46 - 1:49have all the religion you
really wanted in the world. -
1:49 - 1:51Because all the other theories,
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1:51 - 1:53and philosophies and theologies
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1:53 - 1:55and all that sort of stuff
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1:55 - 1:57was all very well to talk about,
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1:57 - 1:59but what I was really concerned with
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1:59 - 2:01in my life, was, you know, the problem
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2:01 - 2:02of happiness and suffering
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2:02 - 2:04and how to overcome the suffering
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2:04 - 2:08and find real true happiness.
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2:08 - 2:11So, the question of, "is there happiness
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2:11 - 2:13in this world," from personal experience
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2:13 - 2:16I can say yes, there certainly is.
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2:16 - 2:18Real happiness, true happiness.
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2:18 - 2:21But it's also fascinating
in my life's journey to find -
2:21 - 2:23that that happiness lies in places where
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2:23 - 2:25people just don't even look.
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2:25 - 2:27And it's because we don't
look in those places -
2:27 - 2:29that many people will live their whole
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2:29 - 2:32life and never actually
experience the deep, -
2:32 - 2:34peaceful, wonderful happinesses
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2:34 - 2:37which are possible in life.
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2:37 - 2:39But first of all, I'm sort of saying about
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2:39 - 2:41what happiness is and how to get it.
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2:41 - 2:44Now all this -- is start talking -- in
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2:44 - 2:48this little presentation today, about why
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2:48 - 2:51is it that people have problems in life?
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2:51 - 2:55What is the cause of unhappiness in life?
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2:55 - 2:56Why do people keep getting
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2:56 - 2:58into these unhappy states?
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2:58 - 3:00Certainly there is part of life
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3:00 - 3:01which is beyond one's control,
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3:01 - 3:03there are the difficulties and pains
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3:03 - 3:05of life: the death of a loved one,
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3:05 - 3:07the disappointments in one's career,
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3:07 - 3:10the problems with one's children,
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3:10 - 3:12the arguments with one's partner,
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3:12 - 3:14the pain of sickness in the body,
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3:14 - 3:16or just the basic getting caught in
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3:16 - 3:18traffic jams when you're on the way
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3:18 - 3:19to the Buddhist Society.
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3:19 - 3:21The basic sufferings in life
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3:21 - 3:24are there but they're
not the real sufferings. -
3:24 - 3:27The point is, that one of the things
which the Buddha -
3:27 - 3:29says, is it's the attachment --
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3:29 - 3:31carrying those burdens around
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3:31 - 3:34more than they should be.
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3:34 - 3:36And that's where I'm going to start
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3:36 - 3:38this talk today.
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3:38 - 3:40Why is it that people get
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3:40 - 3:44attached to suffering?
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3:44 - 3:46And that's basically what it is.
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3:46 - 3:50Many years ago, I was privileged to give a
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3:50 - 3:53talk at a grief and loss conference
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3:53 - 3:54in Observation City.
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3:54 - 3:57It was a national conference
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3:57 - 3:59on grief and loss
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3:59 - 4:01all run by some psychologists
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4:01 - 4:04and psychiatrists.
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4:04 - 4:07And, I remember giving a presentation
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4:07 - 4:09there, just after there'd been
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4:09 - 4:11a presentation by the parents
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4:11 - 4:13of, I think, Ciara Glennon, one of the
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4:13 - 4:16young ladies who was killed by the
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4:16 - 4:19'Claremont Killer, ' (still not found
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4:19 - 4:20who exactly did that)
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4:20 - 4:23and they're expressing just their pain
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4:23 - 4:25at the loss of their daughter.
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4:25 - 4:29I think a young girl, I think she was a
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4:29 - 4:31lawyer, successful, beautiful, who
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4:31 - 4:33just disappeared one night
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4:33 - 4:34and her body was found
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4:34 - 4:37sometime later, by the 'Claremont
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4:37 - 4:39Killer, ' whoever that was.
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4:39 - 4:41And apparently that session (which I did
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4:41 - 4:44not attend myself) created a great feeling
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4:44 - 4:47of suffering and angst amongst the
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4:47 - 4:50people in the conference.
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4:50 - 4:51And I came along with my usual
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4:51 - 4:55positive attitude on
how to deal with death. -
4:55 - 4:57It's not just my positive attitude,
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4:57 - 4:58because I had lived in Thailand
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4:58 - 5:01for nine years and it's one of those
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5:01 - 5:04sayings which comes from my experience.
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5:04 - 5:07In nine years, if you like research,
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5:07 - 5:09and my research was actually
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5:09 - 5:11attending funeral after funeral after
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5:11 - 5:13funeral, cremation after cremation
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5:13 - 5:15because our monastery in Thailand
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5:15 - 5:18was a local cremation ground.
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5:18 - 5:20We hang out with the ghosts.
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5:20 - 5:23Which was actually a very
peaceful place to stay. -
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you wanted to get away -
5:25 - 5:26from people 'cause you know,
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5:26 - 5:29I was a monk
I like a bit of peace and quiet, -
5:29 - 5:31Ajahn Chah always used to tell us
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5:31 - 5:32that when you want to stay somewhere
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5:32 - 5:34at night time, ask the local village
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5:34 - 5:36where the cremation ground is,
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5:36 - 5:38it'd be like an open area in a forest
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5:38 - 5:39and you go and stay there.
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5:39 - 5:41It's the most peaceful place
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5:41 - 5:43because the villagers are too scared
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5:43 - 5:44to come and visit you. [laughter]
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5:44 - 5:46So I really loved those ghosts
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5:46 - 5:48for protecting me, they were my
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5:48 - 5:50bodyguards, my minders to keep all
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5:50 - 5:52the people away, so I could meditate
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5:52 - 5:53quietly and peacefully.
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5:53 - 5:56So, good on you ghosts!
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5:56 - 5:59But that particular forest monastery
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5:59 - 6:01Wat Pah Nanachat
that was like a ghost monastery -
6:01 - 6:04because they had a cremation ground there
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6:04 - 6:08but also, I used to see so many funeral
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6:08 - 6:10services, again and again and again.
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6:10 - 6:12And because you were dependent upon those
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6:12 - 6:14villagers for your alms food, you'd
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6:14 - 6:16see them every morning.
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6:16 - 6:19You'd go into their village.
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6:19 - 6:21And these are the people you grew up with.
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6:21 - 6:24I remember, just I was nine years in
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6:24 - 6:25Thailand mostly that monastery,
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6:25 - 6:27when I came over here,
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6:27 - 6:30to help start this monastery over in
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6:30 - 6:32Serpentine and help support
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6:32 - 6:34this Buddhist Society of Western
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6:34 - 6:36Australia, I think it was about
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6:36 - 6:37four or five years before I had the
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6:37 - 6:39chance to go back to that village
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6:39 - 6:41and as soon as I went back there,
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6:41 - 6:44getting back into that monastery
in the late afternoon, -
6:44 - 6:45the first time the villagers knew I
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6:45 - 6:48was there, was when I went on Alms Round,
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6:48 - 6:52see all these ladies and men
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6:52 - 6:54and they looked up,
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6:54 - 6:57"It's Ajahn Brahm!" and they'd start
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6:57 - 7:00crying because
you did become part of the village. -
7:00 - 7:03I was one of them,
had gone away for about four / five -
7:03 - 7:06years and come back again.
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7:06 - 7:08And that's actually how close we
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7:08 - 7:10were knitted into that community.
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7:10 - 7:15And I mention that point simply because
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7:15 - 7:16it establishes a fact that I didn't
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7:16 - 7:19just see these people at the funeral
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7:19 - 7:20services, I saw them before,
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7:20 - 7:21I saw them afterwards.
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7:21 - 7:25These are the people I knew.
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7:25 - 7:26I never saw grief.
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7:26 - 7:29I never saw people crying.
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7:29 - 7:31It was actually once, I must admit, in
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7:31 - 7:33all those nine years, that once I saw a
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7:33 - 7:36tear, maybe just one or two drops of
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7:36 - 7:37tears fall down the cheek,
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7:37 - 7:40of one lady who lost her husband.
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7:40 - 7:43But apart from that, there was no
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7:43 - 7:46solid grief like you see here
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7:46 - 7:49And it wasn't that it was
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7:49 - 7:51suppressed, it was just people
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7:51 - 7:53solaced in a different attitude,
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7:53 - 7:55they weren't so attached
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7:55 - 7:58to their loved ones.
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7:58 - 8:01And to me it was a revelation
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8:01 - 8:03and what I said at the conference,
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8:03 - 8:05that there is a difference, a separation
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8:05 - 8:08between grief and loss.
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8:08 - 8:10Loss will always be there.
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8:10 - 8:14But grief, is an added extra.
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8:14 - 8:17And seeing a culture -- and that northeast
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8:17 - 8:20part of Thailand had not been affected
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8:20 - 8:23by any other western influence
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8:23 - 8:26so it was like a pure old Buddhist culture
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8:26 - 8:29and when you actually saw just how
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8:29 - 8:32that pure Buddhist culture related to a
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8:32 - 8:34death, it was a revelation to see that
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8:34 - 8:39there was a society where grief
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8:39 - 8:44And, it showed me that our grief
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8:44 - 8:46is a cultural addition.
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8:46 - 8:49There is another way of looking at it.
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8:49 - 8:54And why is it that we attach to
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8:54 - 8:55And basically, it's the
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8:55 - 8:57same reason (you may not agree with
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8:57 - 9:00me on this, but) I'm challenging you here.
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9:00 - 9:04It's the same reason, why it is
that we go to see these weepy movies, -
9:04 - 9:07because we like to cry.
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9:07 - 9:11We actually encourage
these emotions inside of us. -
9:11 - 9:15We like to feel emotional.
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9:15 - 9:17There is a lady who comes here,
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9:17 - 9:18she's not here this evening, thank
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9:18 - 9:20goodness [audience laughter], but she
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9:20 - 9:21once told me that her mother
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9:21 - 9:23would always love going
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9:23 - 9:24to see these weepy movies,
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9:24 - 9:29these Chinese movies and
she described them to me. -
9:29 - 9:33Apparently the Chinese movies,
there's enough people here from -
9:33 - 9:36Malaysia, Singapore here, Hong Kong
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9:36 - 9:38that you know what I'm talking about --
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9:38 - 9:42boy meets girl, but boy never gets girl!
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9:42 - 9:45Either the family or the Imperial Army
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9:45 - 9:48or some other tragedy gets in the way
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9:48 - 9:50[audience laughing] and in the end,
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9:50 - 9:53boy and girl, are killed or separated.
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9:53 - 9:56And they know that's going to happen!
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9:56 - 9:58Every movie is the same.
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9:58 - 10:00It's always a sad ending.
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10:00 - 10:03So her mother would come back from
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10:03 - 10:04the weekly trip to the movies,
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10:04 - 10:07with red eyes, she'd been crying all the
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10:07 - 10:11way through, all the way home, and she
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10:11 - 10:14asked, "What the heck you do that for?"
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10:14 - 10:16"Ah, 'cause it's nice to cry.
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10:16 - 10:17It's so sad
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10:17 - 10:20and so enjoyable to feel sad."
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10:20 - 10:24[audience laughing]
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10:24 - 10:28Now, that's not so funny, because
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10:28 - 10:30at this conference, there's always
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10:30 - 10:32key experiences which happen in
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10:32 - 10:35my life, and it was after I gave
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10:35 - 10:36that little presentation
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10:36 - 10:38on how to look at life and
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10:38 - 10:41death in a different way,
so you don't have to be sad. -
10:41 - 10:43A lady came up to me
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10:43 - 10:46and said, "What's wrong with being sad,"
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10:46 - 10:49because she'd lost a close relation
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10:49 - 10:52in tragic circumstances, and she'd been
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10:52 - 10:54grieving about 5 or 6 years,
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10:54 - 10:59and there's no way she would
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10:59 - 11:01What I saw, in that lady, she was attached
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11:01 - 11:03to grieving.
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11:03 - 11:04That was her persona.
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11:04 - 11:06She would go to conference after
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11:06 - 11:10conference, therapist after therapist,
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11:10 - 11:14it was her identity to be the griever.
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11:14 - 11:17That's one of our big problems there.
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11:17 - 11:19Sometimes we form our identities,
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11:19 - 11:21we attach to that suffering, and that's
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11:21 - 11:22'me.'
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11:22 - 11:27We become the victims.
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11:27 - 11:31And we enjoy, in a perverse way, being
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11:31 - 11:32that victim.
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11:32 - 11:35We enjoy the grief.
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11:35 - 11:39There's one of the sayings of the Buddha
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11:39 - 11:41which you see again and again in the
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11:41 - 11:44original teachings, he's saying all these
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11:44 - 11:46negative emotions, like grief, like anger,
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11:46 - 11:49like jealousy, even like fear,
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11:49 - 11:54he said there is a delight there.
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11:54 - 11:55If there wasn't a delight,
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11:55 - 11:57then people wouldn't get into the fear, or
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11:57 - 12:00into the jealousy, or into the anger.
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12:00 - 12:03'Cause you know that when you feel angry,
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12:03 - 12:05sometimes people do feel the power.
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12:05 - 12:07And it's like a heroin or like a
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12:07 - 12:09methamphetamine.
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12:09 - 12:13You know, you're empowered at that time.
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12:13 - 12:15There is a delight in those states,
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12:15 - 12:18which is why people get into being angry
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12:18 - 12:21or into being violent, into being jealous
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12:21 - 12:25or actually even into being grief.
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12:25 - 12:27There is a delight there.
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12:27 - 12:30And this is one of the wonderful sayings
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12:30 - 12:34Because there is a delight there,
that's why people attach to those things. -
12:34 - 12:35But the reason why they don't
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12:35 - 12:37let go is because they see the delight
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12:37 - 12:40but they don't see the danger.
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12:40 - 12:42With anger, yeah, you get a high,
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12:42 - 12:44but you have to pay for that afterwards.
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12:44 - 12:47It's like a drug.
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12:47 - 12:49And many of the other negative emotions
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12:49 - 12:51which we have, like jealousy, yeah you
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12:51 - 12:56get a sense of being the one left out,
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12:56 - 13:00but you have to pay for it afterwards.
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13:00 - 13:02Grief, you feel that, yeah,
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13:02 - 13:04that you are the victim.
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13:04 - 13:06But my goodness, how much
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13:06 - 13:08you have to pay.
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13:08 - 13:11And it's those attachments
to those negative -
13:11 - 13:14emotions, especially the attachment to the
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13:14 - 13:18pain of the past, that stops us being
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13:18 - 13:23free to be happy.
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13:23 - 13:26This morning I went to a little conference
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13:26 - 13:29run by the Catholic Education
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13:29 - 13:31It was for the teachers and the
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13:31 - 13:33counseling education system.
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13:33 - 13:36It was about reconciliation
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13:36 - 13:38And there's some very good speakers there
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13:38 - 13:40from an Assistant Commissioner to
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13:40 - 13:43Michelle Stubbs, who's the coordinator,
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13:43 - 13:46I think, of the victims of child abuse.
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13:46 - 13:50It's like a huge problem in
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13:50 - 13:52How many people have been
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13:52 - 13:54sexually or physically abused when
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13:54 - 13:56they were children.
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13:56 - 14:00And how the heck do we deal with that.
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14:00 - 14:03And, what was being suggested
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14:03 - 14:06was and this is an interesting
thing, that many of -
14:06 - 14:08those victims of child sexual
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14:08 - 14:12abuse feel that they need to have their
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14:12 - 14:16day in court to be heard, to have their
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14:16 - 14:19pain acknowledged, and to have
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14:19 - 14:22some sort of retribution.
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14:22 - 14:25Our society asks for more
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14:25 - 14:28than retribution, asks for
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14:28 - 14:30punishment: jail sentences,
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14:30 - 14:32non-jail sentences.
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14:32 - 14:38Some people would want corporal punishment
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14:38 - 14:40But, on part of that
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14:40 - 14:42debate, I was sitting next to a Catholic
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14:42 - 14:45Priest who told me an anecdote from
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14:45 - 14:48the United States, where some of the
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14:48 - 14:51relations of a person who was, I think
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14:51 - 14:56killed, murdered, attended the execution
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14:56 - 14:58of the relation's, loved-one's
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14:58 - 15:01murderer.
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15:01 - 15:02And after witnessing the
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15:02 - 15:05execution, came back and said,
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15:05 - 15:09the execution was too fast.
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15:09 - 15:11It should've been slower.
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15:11 - 15:15That really hurt me so much.
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15:15 - 15:17They wanted pain.
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15:17 - 15:20They wanted suffering in the person
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15:20 - 15:22who killed their -- I don't know, child
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15:22 - 15:24or relation or whatever it was -- he
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15:24 - 15:27never gave the details.
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15:27 - 15:28What is it in a human being
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15:28 - 15:32wants to harm others because
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15:32 - 15:36they have harmed us?
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15:36 - 15:39I say that's this attachment to
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15:39 - 15:44being a victim, attachment, you know, to,
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15:44 - 15:47or this cultural way of looking at things,
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15:47 - 15:49an 'eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth'
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15:49 - 15:52is still very, very strong in many people
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15:52 - 15:53in our society.
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15:53 - 15:56And when I was asked, "What does Buddhism
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15:56 - 16:01think about things like that," I quoted a
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16:01 - 16:05book which I read as a student, which
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16:05 - 16:08changed much of the way I looked
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16:08 - 16:13at being a victim or crime and punishments
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16:13 - 16:15and I've mentioned that here before,
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16:15 - 16:17that there's a wonderful book written
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16:17 - 16:19written over a hundred years ago
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16:19 - 16:21it's called "Erewhon," by Samuel Butler.
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16:21 - 16:25And apparently, that really influenced
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16:25 - 16:28the great British playwright
George Bernard Shaw. -
16:28 - 16:30It changed the way he looked
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16:30 - 16:32at some of these social problems
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16:32 - 16:34and the reason why it was a very
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16:34 - 16:38effective argument against the way
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16:38 - 16:42we treat "criminals," or people who've
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16:42 - 16:46done harm, with punishment,
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16:46 - 16:49was that it used the satire.
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16:49 - 16:51It envisaged
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16:51 - 16:55a society in which, what we call crime
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16:55 - 16:58today, is looked upon as being a
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16:58 - 17:02sickness and therapy, therapy, therapy
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17:02 - 17:05is the only response to crime.
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17:05 - 17:07If somebody steals, they go and see
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17:07 - 17:10a doctor.
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17:10 - 17:13If somebody rapes, that's
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17:13 - 17:16looked upon as being a sickness.
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17:16 - 17:19Punishment is not really looked at at all.
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17:19 - 17:21But somehow, a rehabilitation
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17:21 - 17:25of trying to work out and remedy
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17:25 - 17:29that glitch in human nature.
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17:29 - 17:33But, when it came to health matters,
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17:33 - 17:36if you were sick and ill, that
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17:36 - 17:38was because you were careless
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17:38 - 17:41and you were punished.
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17:41 - 17:44Part of that book, a chapter which
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17:44 - 17:46I will always remember, was of a
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17:46 - 17:49court scene in which there was a
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17:49 - 17:53poor man who had a cold.
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17:53 - 17:55And when he had a cold (there's
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17:55 - 17:57many colds going around right now
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17:57 - 17:58[directed at audience], there's
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17:58 - 18:00a cough already, you'd be in trouble in
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18:00 - 18:02this society), because he had a cold
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18:02 - 18:05he was in the dock, charged
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18:05 - 18:07with being sick.
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18:07 - 18:09And because he was
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18:09 - 18:12sniffling, he had no defense and
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18:12 - 18:14so the judge pronounced him
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18:14 - 18:18guilty of having a cold and he,
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18:18 - 18:20before he gave judgment, uh, sentence
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18:20 - 18:22sorry, the punishment, he said,
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18:22 - 18:24"This is not the first time you
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18:24 - 18:25appeared before me, you were here
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18:25 - 18:28last week or three weeks ago with a cold.
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18:28 - 18:31I warned you then,
if you don't eat better, take -
18:31 - 18:33better care of your health, let go
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18:33 - 18:36of your stress, it's your responsibility
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18:36 - 18:37to be healthy and you have been
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18:37 - 18:40negligent, and your cold is causing
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18:40 - 18:42a danger to other people!
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18:42 - 18:43You're being heedless, you're not
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18:43 - 18:45caring for others, you're spreading
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18:45 - 18:46your germs to other people,
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18:46 - 18:49that's not appropriate, you should be
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18:49 - 18:51punished: three years in jail for having
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18:51 - 18:56a cold, being a repeat offender!"
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18:56 - 18:59There's some logic to that.
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18:59 - 19:03In a sense, you know, if you are sick,
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19:03 - 19:05isn't your responsibility to exercise
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19:05 - 19:10and eat well and keep yourself healthy?
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19:10 - 19:13And if you are sick,
you are a scourge on society. -
19:13 - 19:16You're robbing it of its resources.
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19:16 - 19:20"You heedless scallywag,
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19:20 - 19:23reprobate delinquent for always
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19:23 - 19:25having colds."
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19:25 - 19:28And they were punished.
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19:28 - 19:30Now, obviously, what that really made
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19:30 - 19:33very, very clear to me is that the double
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19:33 - 19:35standards which we have.
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19:35 - 19:37Why is it that when we're sick,
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19:37 - 19:41no one gets punished for being sick.
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19:41 - 19:42And what's the difference between
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19:42 - 19:44some of the behavior of human
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19:44 - 19:49beings which we call criminal.
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19:49 - 19:50So when I was asked about what
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19:50 - 19:53we think in Buddhism about punishment,
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19:53 - 19:55it was very much the case that,
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19:55 - 19:57yeah, sometimes it's like a sickness,
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19:57 - 19:59you do need quarantine, to be put
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19:59 - 20:01away, so you don't harm other human
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20:01 - 20:03beings, from the time that sickness is
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20:03 - 20:06still strong in you,
you're still a danger to others. -
20:06 - 20:08But when you're in quarantine,
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20:08 - 20:10it's never looked upon as
being a punishment. -
20:10 - 20:11It's always looked upon
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20:11 - 20:13as being rehabilitating.
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20:13 - 20:14To try and take that problem, to work
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20:14 - 20:16with it so that it's no longer there.
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20:16 - 20:18And you stay in quarantine
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20:18 - 20:20as long as you are contagious,
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20:20 - 20:23a danger to society.
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20:23 - 20:26In the same way, why don't we look at
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20:26 - 20:28that as penal before... to stay as long
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20:28 - 20:30as you're a danger to society.
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20:30 - 20:31But not looked upon as being a
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20:31 - 20:33punishment, looked upon as being
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20:33 - 20:35a problem which needs to be healed.
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20:35 - 20:39No punishment, but rehabilitation.
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20:39 - 20:42That's how I understand Buddhism,
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20:42 - 20:43over many, many years of being a
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20:43 - 20:45Buddhist, and also how I understand
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20:45 - 20:48a positive way forward.
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20:48 - 20:51But why is it that people don't want that,
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20:51 - 20:53they want people to be punished for
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20:53 - 20:56their way they've hurt us.
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20:56 - 20:58And I think it's very much
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20:58 - 21:01that we can't just understand
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21:01 - 21:04deeply why it is that people do
these terrible things. -
21:04 - 21:06Why they make these
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21:06 - 21:09mistakes, to have a deeper understanding
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21:09 - 21:10and also have a deeper understanding
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21:10 - 21:13not just where these crimes, these hurts,
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21:13 - 21:15these harms come from, but
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21:15 - 21:18how in the future we can lessen the
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21:18 - 21:21chance of harm and hurt.
-
21:21 - 21:23Being attached to being a victim
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21:23 - 21:27does not help.
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21:27 - 21:30Sometimes, I just wonder why people
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21:30 - 21:33want punishment of others, when
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21:33 - 21:36if you're a Christian, you know that God
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21:36 - 21:39will punish afterwards, what do you need
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21:39 - 21:40to punish for?
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21:40 - 21:43If you're a Muslim,
Allah will look after it, -
21:43 - 21:45if you're a Buddhist, karma
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21:45 - 21:46will look after it, and if you
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21:46 - 21:49don't believe in any religion,
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21:49 - 21:50you know that person will
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21:50 - 21:52have to go into psychotherapy for many,
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21:52 - 21:54many years afterwards.
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21:54 - 21:57Whatever it is, no one ever escapes
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21:57 - 22:03from the problems of their bad behavior.
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22:03 - 22:05It's also one of those insights which
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22:05 - 22:07I had from the experience of visiting
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22:07 - 22:09prisons many times in the early
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22:09 - 22:12part of my life here in Western Australia.
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22:12 - 22:14Visiting prisons so many
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22:14 - 22:15times and getting to know
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22:15 - 22:18some of these people spending
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22:18 - 22:21years in jail, never once did I find a
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22:21 - 22:25prisoner who had no conscience.
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22:25 - 22:27They would act as if they had no
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22:27 - 22:29conscience, and think, "Yeah, when I get
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22:29 - 22:32outta here, I'm just going to rob
as many houses as I can. -
22:32 - 22:33I don't care about the
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22:33 - 22:35system, I'm just going to bear with this
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22:35 - 22:38until I can get out."
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22:38 - 22:42But when I got to know some of
these prisoners, they would -
22:42 - 22:44always, in every case, express just
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22:44 - 22:47how bad and terrible they felt about
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22:47 - 22:50what they'd done to others.
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22:50 - 22:52It wasn't the case, they never felt
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22:52 - 22:55deep inside the hurt which they'd
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22:55 - 22:58given to others, they always
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22:58 - 23:00felt it, it was always remorse there,
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23:00 - 23:03just usually it was a tough guy syndrome,
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23:03 - 23:05they did not want to express it.
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23:05 - 23:09So there is always a punishment comes
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23:09 - 23:10there.
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23:10 - 23:12If someone has done something
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23:12 - 23:14bad to you, they are going to hurt.
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23:14 - 23:16This, what we call, the law of karma,
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23:16 - 23:19it has to come back to them.
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23:19 - 23:21And that is not whether you're a Buddhist
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23:21 - 23:23or a Christian or whatever, that's a law
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23:23 - 23:26like the law of gravity, you don't have
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23:26 - 23:29to believe in that, or not believe in it
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23:29 - 23:30it happens irrespective of your
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23:30 - 23:32beliefs.
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23:32 - 23:35So we don't need to punish others.
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23:35 - 23:36Instead, we can let the whole
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23:36 - 23:40thing go.
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23:40 - 23:41And unless we let them go,
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23:41 - 23:45then we are a victim for the rest
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23:45 - 23:48of our lives.
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23:48 - 23:49It doesn't matter who has
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23:49 - 23:53harmed, hurt, abused you.
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23:53 - 23:56Until you can let that go, you're always
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23:56 - 24:00the victim and you can never be free.
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24:00 - 24:04It's just how we can reach
that point of letting go -
24:04 - 24:07that sometimes, just to think
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24:07 - 24:08we need to confront
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24:08 - 24:10that person who's harmed us
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24:10 - 24:13we need to fix the situation ourselves.
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24:13 - 24:15We need to be acknowledged,
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24:15 - 24:18we need to be heard.
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24:18 - 24:21Sometimes that cannot be achieved.
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24:21 - 24:26If it's not achieved, then what.
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24:26 - 24:28Sometimes you don't need
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24:28 - 24:29to be heard,
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24:29 - 24:31sometimes you don't need to
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24:31 - 24:33confront the person who's
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24:33 - 24:35harmed you or hurt you.
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24:35 - 24:38You are always free and every moment
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24:38 - 24:40independent of others,
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24:40 - 24:43independent of the judicial system,
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24:43 - 24:45independent of where that
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24:45 - 24:47person who harmed or hurt
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24:47 - 24:48or abused you is,
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24:48 - 24:51you're always free
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24:51 - 24:55to let go at any time.
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24:55 - 24:57These attachments which we carry
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24:57 - 25:01around, we choose to carry them.
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25:01 - 25:02We don't have to.
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25:02 - 25:05The experience of seeing how
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25:05 - 25:07grief was not a part of the Buddhist
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25:07 - 25:09culture, hundreds of years old
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25:09 - 25:11in northeast Thailand,
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25:11 - 25:13taught me that many of the things I thought
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25:13 - 25:15were normal, natural, and had
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25:15 - 25:17to happen, were not normal,
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25:17 - 25:19natural, had to happen.
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25:19 - 25:21It's just the way we've learned
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25:21 - 25:25to deal with the problems of life.
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25:25 - 25:27We can relearn them
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25:27 - 25:30and do things in a different way.
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25:30 - 25:32Someone has harmed and hurt you,
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25:32 - 25:37why not let it go pretty quickly.
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25:37 - 25:38I've often said, and this is
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25:38 - 25:41just a start of understanding
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25:41 - 25:42how to reconcile.
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25:42 - 25:44Let go, forgive, let go, move on.
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25:44 - 25:48I've often said that when someone
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25:48 - 25:50calls you an idiot
and you keep thinking, -
25:50 - 25:52"Why did they call me an idiot,
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25:52 - 25:55I'm not an idiot!
You should not call me an idiot!" -
25:55 - 25:56you've allowed them to
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25:56 - 25:59call you an idiot three more times.
[laughter] -
25:59 - 26:01Every time you remember that,
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26:01 - 26:03you're allowing them to call you
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26:03 - 26:06an idiot another time.
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26:06 - 26:08So why not, when they call you an
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26:08 - 26:10idiot, you forget it straight away.
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26:10 - 26:13Then they only call you an idiot once.
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26:13 - 26:15They're wrong, you know they're wrong,
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26:15 - 26:17end of problem.
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26:17 - 26:18And I think many of you will accept
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26:18 - 26:20the wisdom of that, and maybe
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26:20 - 26:22you've heard it enough times
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26:22 - 26:23you've done that already,
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26:23 - 26:26these people call you an idiot,
they call you foolish, -
26:26 - 26:28they call you ugly,
they call you stupid, -
26:28 - 26:30you just forget it straight away.
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26:30 - 26:32Or for those of you who don't know
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26:32 - 26:33this wonderful saying of Ajahn Chah,
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26:33 - 26:36"If they call you a dog,
what should you do? -
26:36 - 26:40Look at your..." [audience - inaudible]
bow [laughter] -
26:40 - 26:42(AB: very good you got there first,
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26:42 - 26:45excellent) but no,
that's not what Ajahn Chah said, -
26:45 - 26:47If someone calls you a dog
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26:47 - 26:48you look at your bottom
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26:48 - 26:50to see if you got a tail.
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26:50 - 26:52If you ain't got a tail, you're not a dog,
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26:52 - 26:54end of problem.
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26:54 - 26:55Most of the things which people say
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26:55 - 26:57about you aren't true
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26:57 - 26:58'cause they don't know
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26:58 - 27:00who you are or what you're doing,
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27:00 - 27:02so that's a great way of
stopping the problem. -
27:02 - 27:03But what a lot of people do,
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27:03 - 27:05they keep thinking about it,
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27:05 - 27:06every time you think about it
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27:06 - 27:09you allow them to call
you a dog another time. -
27:09 - 27:10Now that's easy to understand
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27:10 - 27:12but what about someone
who’s really hurt you? -
27:12 - 27:14Really abused you?
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27:14 - 27:20Even like sexual abuse as a kid.
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27:20 - 27:22Is it the case every time
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27:22 - 27:24you remember that,
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27:24 - 27:28you allow them to abuse you again?
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27:28 - 27:34Every time you bring that up?
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27:34 - 27:37Why is it we can't let it go
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27:37 - 27:41straight away?
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27:41 - 27:43It's hard.
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27:43 - 27:45But with an inner strength,
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27:45 - 27:47you know, a strength which is
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27:47 - 27:48not coming from will power
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27:48 - 27:50but from wisdom power,
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27:50 - 27:51from compassion,
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27:51 - 27:54why do we allow ourselves
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27:54 - 27:56to be victims?
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27:56 - 27:58To be made victims?
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27:58 - 28:01Now I'm not just saying that out of theory.
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28:01 - 28:03Many, many years ago
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28:03 - 28:06there was a disciple,
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28:06 - 28:08this was in the time of the
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28:08 - 28:11Armadale group, part of the Armadale
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28:11 - 28:13group, who came out to me
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28:13 - 28:15(actually one of her friends said
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28:15 - 28:17you better talk to her because she's
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28:17 - 28:18in big trouble).
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28:18 - 28:20And what the trouble was,
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28:20 - 28:22was she found out her husband
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28:22 - 28:27was sexually abusing her two children.
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28:27 - 28:29She had missed it, and I told her
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28:29 - 28:31why she'd missed it, "because, look,
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28:31 - 28:33you love that man."
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28:33 - 28:34When you love a man,
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28:34 - 28:36the signs are there but you are in
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28:36 - 28:39denial because the whole idea that
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28:39 - 28:41the man you love is abusing the
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28:41 - 28:44children you love, it's just it's so
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28:44 - 28:45hard to reconcile that.
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28:45 - 28:47It's so hard for the mind to fit
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28:47 - 28:49those two together.
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28:49 - 28:52So she just denied the signs
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28:52 - 28:54of sexual abuse of her children
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28:54 - 28:55by her husband.
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28:55 - 28:58It was found out by the school.
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28:58 - 29:01Investigated, it was true.
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29:01 - 29:03The guy went to jail.
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29:03 - 29:06The marriage was over.
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29:06 - 29:08And I was counseling her,
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29:08 - 29:10counseling her on these
Buddhist principles. -
29:10 - 29:13She'd been meditating enough,
she understood -
29:13 - 29:16the basic idea of karma and letting go
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29:16 - 29:19and not being a victim
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29:19 - 29:22and she took it on board.
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29:22 - 29:24She said she could never live
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29:24 - 29:26with that man or love him again,
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29:26 - 29:28but she's not going to allow him
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29:28 - 29:30to make her suffer anymore.
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29:30 - 29:32She completely let go.
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29:32 - 29:34Wished him well, and eventually
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29:34 - 29:36moved to the UK.
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29:36 - 29:37And I kept in contact with her
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29:37 - 29:42and her kids, but before she left
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29:42 - 29:44it was compulsory at that time,
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29:44 - 29:46probably still is, for her to go
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29:46 - 29:51for counseling and the kids too.
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29:51 - 29:54I was quite amused that after
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29:54 - 29:56going to counseling
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29:56 - 29:58for about four/five weeks
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29:58 - 30:00she came to complain again.
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30:00 - 30:02"This counselor will not
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30:02 - 30:04understand I've moved on."
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30:04 - 30:08And the counselor was still saying,
"You hate your husband don't you?" -
30:08 - 30:11"No, I don't hate my husband,
I've let him go." [laughter] -
30:11 - 30:12Counselor: "You hate him don't you?"
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30:12 - 30:13Woman: "No, no I don't!"
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30:13 - 30:16And she came because she
could not be free of her counselor -
30:16 - 30:18[audience laughter]
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30:18 - 30:20until she admitted how much she
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30:20 - 30:23hated and wanted to kill her husband.
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30:23 - 30:26And so I had to write this letter
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30:26 - 30:28to the counselor about Buddhist
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30:28 - 30:30Psychology and how Buddhists
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30:30 - 30:32relate to these things,
to actually to free her. -
30:32 - 30:36And I didn't write this letter easily
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30:36 - 30:37because if I'd got it wrong,
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30:37 - 30:39than she'd be suffering
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30:39 - 30:41later on down the track.
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30:41 - 30:42But because I knew her,
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30:42 - 30:44because I'd talked with her,
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30:44 - 30:46because I'd counseled her myself,
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30:46 - 30:48yeah, I knew that she had moved on.
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30:48 - 30:50She did not have the anger,
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30:50 - 30:51she didn't go through this process
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30:51 - 30:54of victimhood which is expected
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30:54 - 30:56in our modern culture.
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30:56 - 30:58She moved through fast
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30:58 - 31:01and so gained her freedom fast.
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31:01 - 31:04And I really salute her,
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31:04 - 31:06because what she did
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31:06 - 31:10by moving from that incredible hurt,
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31:10 - 31:11a whole life being devastated,
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31:11 - 31:14she moved so quickly through that --
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31:14 - 31:18not into forgetfulness,
not into ignorance, 'that didn't happen,' -
31:18 - 31:20not into denial -- but, yeah that
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31:20 - 31:22happened, that was
an awful thing to happen -
31:22 - 31:24but I'm not going to allow that to
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31:24 - 31:28hurt and harm me any more.
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31:28 - 31:31Because she moved into that freedom,
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31:31 - 31:35she took her two kids
with her very quickly. -
31:35 - 31:37They too followed their mother's lead,
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31:37 - 31:41were not going to be victims
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31:41 - 31:43and moved on.
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31:43 - 31:45There are other ways of dealing with
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31:45 - 31:48these terrible abuses.
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31:48 - 31:50And the other personal example
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31:50 - 31:53I have, again, is the story of my own
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31:53 - 31:58father who told me that he was,
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31:58 - 32:00before the Second World War,
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32:00 - 32:02born and brought up in Liverpool
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32:02 - 32:04in a very, very poor family
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32:04 - 32:07as most people were in those days.
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32:07 - 32:09And his father was a plumber
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32:09 - 32:13who would go to work,
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32:13 - 32:14before he'd come home
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32:14 - 32:18spend most of his time in the pub,
spending the money -
32:18 - 32:21giving only a pittance to my
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32:21 - 32:22paternal grandmother
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32:22 - 32:25to look after the kids.
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32:25 - 32:27As soon as he'd come home drunk,
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32:27 - 32:29get out his belt and whip
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32:29 - 32:30any kid who came in his path
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32:30 - 32:32for no reason or another and then
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32:32 - 32:36set on his wife.
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32:36 - 32:38Which is why my father,
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32:38 - 32:40in my presence, he said,
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32:40 - 32:41"Look, I'm sorry son.
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32:41 - 32:44Your grandfather was a bastard."
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32:44 - 32:46And he hated him.
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32:46 - 32:48But the other thing he told me,
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32:48 - 32:50was that whenever he was under
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32:50 - 32:54that belt himself, being beaten
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32:54 - 32:57for no reason at all, except his father
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32:57 - 32:58was drunk.
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32:58 - 33:00He made a resolution,
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33:00 - 33:02he told me he determined
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33:02 - 33:04if ever he gets through this and
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33:04 - 33:07has kids, he will never hit them.
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33:07 - 33:11And that's what happened.
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33:11 - 33:14There's no way that my father could hit us.
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33:14 - 33:16My mother had to be the disciplinarian.
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33:16 - 33:17And even she didn't do it
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33:17 - 33:19very well.
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33:19 - 33:21And he became this incredibly
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33:21 - 33:22loving father.
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33:22 - 33:25He was a person who,
in that story I tell you -
33:25 - 33:28about taking me down a side street
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33:28 - 33:31of Acton in London, telling me,
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33:31 - 33:32"Look, whatever you do in your life son,
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33:32 - 33:34the door of my house will always
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33:34 - 33:36be open to you."
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33:36 - 33:37What I later interpreted as
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33:37 - 33:39being, "whatever you do in your life,
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33:39 - 33:41wherever you go, the door of my
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33:41 - 33:43heart will be open to you."
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33:43 - 33:45It was unconditional love.
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33:45 - 33:47And that was a man who
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33:47 - 33:50suffered tremendous physical
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33:50 - 33:53abuse as a child.
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33:53 - 33:57There is other ways of
dealing with these things. -
33:57 - 34:01And I look at that as a way forward.
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34:01 - 34:03Whereas if we carry that abuse around
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34:03 - 34:05with us, we become victims.
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34:05 - 34:07We are stopping ourselves being
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34:07 - 34:10happy.
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34:10 - 34:12But we don't have to.
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34:12 - 34:14Which is, if it happens great,
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34:14 - 34:16but there has to come a time,
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34:16 - 34:19some situation where we let go.
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34:19 - 34:20Sometimes that letting go
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34:20 - 34:23does happen when we face the
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34:23 - 34:26person who has been hurting us,
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34:26 - 34:28creating our problem.
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34:28 - 34:30We face them and we
hear them acknowledging, -
34:30 - 34:32sometimes there is a letting go
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34:32 - 34:33there.
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34:33 - 34:36Maybe that might be the best way.
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34:36 - 34:38But sometimes that way isn't
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34:38 - 34:39there for us.
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34:39 - 34:41If it's not there for us
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34:41 - 34:46then we can do it ourselves.
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34:46 - 34:48We can move on by letting go of
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34:48 - 34:51this burden.
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34:51 - 34:56When we say that,
"Is there happiness in this world?" -
34:56 - 34:58Unless we drop those attachments
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34:58 - 34:59to the pain of our lives,
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34:59 - 35:03to the disappointments,
to what went wrong, -
35:03 - 35:05to the hurt and the harm,
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35:05 - 35:09if we can't drop those attachments
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35:09 - 35:14how on earth can we ever be free?
-
35:14 - 35:16At this conference this morning,
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35:16 - 35:17there was a very impressive
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35:17 - 35:19young Aboriginal leader.
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35:19 - 35:22I forget her name, Norelle
was her first name, -
35:22 - 35:24she was actually a basketball star or
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35:24 - 35:28something, but she was saying
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35:28 - 35:30(it's a very interesting thing),
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35:30 - 35:32so... if our Prime Minister
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35:32 - 35:35John Howard says sorry...
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35:35 - 35:37so then what.
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35:37 - 35:42She was telling her students,
she teaches at ?Contell, -
35:42 - 35:44have you got to wait until
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35:44 - 35:46the government says sorry before we can
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35:46 - 35:49reconcile and move forward?
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35:49 - 35:53Why leave them that power?
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35:53 - 35:55Why don't we do it now?
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35:55 - 35:58I thought that was a very
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35:58 - 35:59inspiring and wonderful way
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35:59 - 36:02of taking responsibility
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36:02 - 36:04for ourselves
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36:04 - 36:07for our moving out of our victimhood.
-
36:07 - 36:09Rather than waiting for someone
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36:09 - 36:11else to do it for us, whether it's
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36:11 - 36:13the government, whether it's the
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36:13 - 36:14courts, whether it's karma or
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36:14 - 36:16whatever.
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36:16 - 36:17Why can't we take
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36:17 - 36:21responsibility for being free?
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36:21 - 36:24Say, "I forgive.
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36:24 - 36:26I let go.
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36:26 - 36:28I will move on.
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36:28 - 36:31I'm never going to allow
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36:31 - 36:34anyone else ever again
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36:34 - 36:37to control my happiness."
-
36:37 - 36:38You've heard me say that before.
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36:38 - 36:40It's a very simple thing
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36:40 - 36:43to say: don't allow others to control
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36:43 - 36:45your happiness.
-
36:45 - 36:48It's a very powerful thing to say.
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36:48 - 36:51It's very profound and you can see
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36:51 - 36:55just how much of our lives
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36:55 - 36:58is controlled by others.
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36:58 - 37:01Part of Buddhism, I'd say,
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37:01 - 37:03is always empowering,
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37:03 - 37:05empowering you to take control
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37:05 - 37:07of your happiness.
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37:07 - 37:09And it can be done.
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37:09 - 37:12Too often we look for solutions
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37:12 - 37:14in controlling others.
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37:14 - 37:18Or the problem lies with my
abusers, the problem lies with -
37:18 - 37:21the government, the problem lies
somewhere else, the problem -
37:21 - 37:23lies with my husband, the problem
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37:23 - 37:25lies with my cancer, the problem
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37:25 - 37:29lies with my loved one who's just died.
-
37:29 - 37:31If you want to, sort of, try fix
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37:31 - 37:33up the world by fixing
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37:33 - 37:35up all those people around you
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37:35 - 37:37who've hurt you or harmed you,
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37:37 - 37:39perhaps you'll die before that
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37:39 - 37:41problem is solved.
-
37:41 - 37:44Perhaps if you get reborn many, many times
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37:44 - 37:46you'll never find that freedom,
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37:46 - 37:48that happiness, that peace.
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37:48 - 37:50Fortunately, you don't have to
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37:50 - 37:55go that path.
-
37:55 - 37:57There's one beautiful message of
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37:57 - 37:59the Buddha, you cannot
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37:59 - 38:02really change this world
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38:02 - 38:03but you sure can change
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38:03 - 38:07your attitude towards it.
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38:07 - 38:09The abuse which you've had in the past,
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38:09 - 38:11you can't change that.
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38:11 - 38:13The pain, the difficulty, the loss,
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38:13 - 38:14the person who's just died,
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38:14 - 38:18you can't bring them back again.
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38:18 - 38:20That's obvious,
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38:20 - 38:23sometimes obvious, but we
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38:23 - 38:26still think that way.
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38:26 - 38:29We can't undo the abuse.
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38:29 - 38:32We can't get back that youth
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38:32 - 38:35which we may have lost.
-
38:35 - 38:37We can't undo things.
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38:37 - 38:41We can't change the world or the past.
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38:41 - 38:44But what we can do
is change our attitude -
38:44 - 38:45in this present moment.
-
38:45 - 38:48It's that attitude change which is
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38:48 - 38:51the key, I've always found,
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38:51 - 38:54to finding freedom and happiness.
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38:54 - 38:57To find happiness and freedom
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38:57 - 39:00in our world, rather than
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39:00 - 39:02changing the world first so that
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39:02 - 39:04some time in the future we can
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39:04 - 39:06be free, that we can be happy,
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39:06 - 39:08we can be at peace.
-
39:08 - 39:09And that's not a cop-out,
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39:09 - 39:11because sometimes people say,
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39:11 - 39:13"Well, if you don't do anything
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39:13 - 39:16there'll be more abuse, more
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39:16 - 39:19cheating, more stupid governments
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39:19 - 39:22more wars, more child abuse,
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39:22 - 39:24more crime."
-
39:24 - 39:26And the psychology
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39:26 - 39:28which I know, that the more time
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39:28 - 39:30you have blame, the more time you
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39:30 - 39:32have punishment, the more time
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39:32 - 39:35you exert revenge, that it makes
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39:35 - 39:36the whole problem worse and
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39:36 - 39:38worse and worse and worse.
-
39:38 - 39:41The more people you lock in jail
-
39:41 - 39:43the more criminals we have
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39:43 - 39:45for our future.
-
39:45 - 39:47The more you punish,
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39:47 - 39:52the more people have resentment.
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39:52 - 39:55The quicker you can forgive,
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39:55 - 39:56the quicker there can be
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39:56 - 39:58rehabilitation.
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39:58 - 40:01Not just for the victims,
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40:01 - 40:05but the people who
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40:05 - 40:10did those terrible things.
-
40:10 - 40:13Some few years ago, I should've
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40:13 - 40:15kept this article because there was
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40:15 - 40:18a brilliant article, it was concerning
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40:18 - 40:20the killers of Jamie Bulger,
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40:20 - 40:21(whatever his name was)
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40:21 - 40:24this young -- was it two or three
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40:24 - 40:26year old -- who was abducted in
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40:26 - 40:28the shopping center in Liverpool
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40:28 - 40:30tortured and killed on the
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40:30 - 40:32railway track by some, was it, eight or
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40:32 - 40:36nine year old children.
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40:36 - 40:39And the whole culture of England
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40:39 - 40:42at the time especially driven by the
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40:42 - 40:46tabloid press, was wanting the blood
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40:46 - 40:48of those two killers even though
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40:48 - 40:50they were very, very young and
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40:50 - 40:52they'd done a terrible terrible thing.
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40:52 - 40:54To take the life of a two year old,
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40:54 - 40:56and it's not just one person's death
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40:56 - 40:58it's all the tears and the anxiety
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40:58 - 41:02and the stress and the devastation
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41:02 - 41:04of all of the people who knew
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41:04 - 41:08that child, let alone the parents.
-
41:08 - 41:11But what I never knew at the time
-
41:11 - 41:14was pointed out in this article
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41:14 - 41:17was that at about the same time
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41:17 - 41:20a similar event happened in Norway
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41:20 - 41:23in the town of Trondheim, north of
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41:23 - 41:27Oslo where I think, two boys
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41:27 - 41:31lured (I think) a girl into the snowfields,
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41:31 - 41:35and had similarly killed her.
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41:35 - 41:39And the similarities between the crimes
-
41:39 - 41:41were very close.
-
41:41 - 41:43But what was very dissimilar was
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41:43 - 41:44the way those two societies
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41:44 - 41:46dealt with the problem.
-
41:46 - 41:48As many of you know,
-
41:48 - 41:50the Jamie Bulger case, those two
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41:50 - 41:52kids were put into some
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41:52 - 41:55detention center,
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41:55 - 41:57and the tabloid press
-
41:57 - 41:59just wanted them to be really
-
41:59 - 42:01punished hard and the parents
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42:01 - 42:02were just waiting for them to
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42:02 - 42:06be released so they could kill them.
-
42:06 - 42:09And even the public did not
want them to be released. -
42:09 - 42:11I read in the newspapers
there was some idea of -
42:11 - 42:13sending them to Australia where they
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42:13 - 42:15wouldn't be known, new identities
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42:15 - 42:16so they could live their life
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42:16 - 42:18and the British public was saying, "No
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42:18 - 42:20they don't deserve any freedom."
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42:20 - 42:22That's what I read.
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42:22 - 42:25With those other two kids
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42:25 - 42:27the following day after they were caught
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42:27 - 42:31they both went to school
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42:31 - 42:35accompanied by psychiatrists
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42:35 - 42:39and a social worker.
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42:39 - 42:41They were not put into any
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42:41 - 42:45punitive institution.
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42:45 - 42:49Very, very soon, the mother and father
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42:49 - 42:53of the child who died came to a closure,
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42:53 - 42:56came to forgiveness and moved
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42:56 - 42:58on in their life.
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42:58 - 42:59Whereas the parents
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42:59 - 43:03of Jamie Bulger never moved
on as far as I know. -
43:03 - 43:05The whole town of Trondheim
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43:05 - 43:09came to a closure.
-
43:09 - 43:11They realized a terrible act,
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43:11 - 43:13but the only way to move forward
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43:13 - 43:18is not to wish harm on the killers.
-
43:18 - 43:22So many years later, one of the killers
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43:22 - 43:25of that (I think it was a) little girl
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43:25 - 43:28in Trondheim is perfectly well adjusted
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43:28 - 43:29having a successful life
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43:29 - 43:32completed the education,
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43:32 - 43:34had really moved on, and so did the
-
43:34 - 43:36family and the rest of town.
-
43:36 - 43:38There's one of the killers still has
-
43:38 - 43:40social problems and some psychological
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43:40 - 43:43problems, but nowhere near like
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43:43 - 43:45the pain which was spread around
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43:45 - 43:49England because of the Jamie Bulger case.
-
43:49 - 43:53To see those two separate accounts
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43:53 - 43:58of a similar tragedy, one where there were
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43:58 - 44:00many victims and their victimhood
-
44:00 - 44:04was, I dare to say, cherished
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44:04 - 44:08and attached to and made much of.
-
44:08 - 44:09And the other one, where
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44:09 - 44:16rehabilitation was the main aim and goal,
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44:16 - 44:19to see the effects of those two cases
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44:19 - 44:22I sure wish I'd lived in Norway
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44:22 - 44:24than in England.
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44:24 - 44:25That was the way forward,
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44:25 - 44:27the way that everyone got healed,
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44:27 - 44:29the way where there
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44:29 - 44:31was less pain, less suffering.
-
44:31 - 44:35So, when we are not happy when we are
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44:35 - 44:40suffering, when we are not free.
-
44:40 - 44:42Why is it?
-
44:42 - 44:45It's because we don't know how to
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44:45 - 44:47move on from the pains
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44:47 - 44:49and difficulties and stresses of life.
-
44:49 - 44:52Now these are big pains,
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44:52 - 44:55big problems, big sufferings.
-
44:55 - 44:56You probably haven't had to
-
44:56 - 44:59experience that degree of
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44:59 - 45:02suffering, but if those people
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45:02 - 45:05can move on and find freedom,
-
45:05 - 45:07why can't we?
-
45:07 - 45:10One of the great causes
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45:10 - 45:11for happiness
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45:11 - 45:15is the ability to forgive,
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45:15 - 45:18to let go, to move on.
-
45:18 - 45:21It causes happiness for
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45:21 - 45:23the offenders, (I don't mean
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45:23 - 45:25because they got away with it,
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45:25 - 45:26no one gets away with anything
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45:26 - 45:29in this world) but it means that
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45:29 - 45:31they got away forward,
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45:31 - 45:33and certainly a way forward
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45:33 - 45:35for those people we call
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45:35 - 45:37the victims.
-
45:37 - 45:41We have more freedom and happiness.
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45:41 - 45:44Which is why I keep
telling -- why is it that we -
45:44 - 45:46carry around the shit of the past,
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45:46 - 45:48and we don't carry the eggs,
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45:48 - 45:49in that story of the two chicken
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45:49 - 45:51farmers (which I won't repeat,
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45:51 - 45:52because I think I tell that every
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45:52 - 45:54couple of weeks here).
-
45:54 - 45:56It's an interesting thing,
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45:56 - 45:59why is it that our nature
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45:59 - 46:01always to look at the past
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46:01 - 46:03and collect the pain, to go to the
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46:03 - 46:06movies and once a week
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46:06 - 46:07to look, to be worried by
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46:07 - 46:09watching too many soap operas.
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46:09 - 46:11If people haven't got enough worries
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46:11 - 46:13in their life, they create more
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46:13 - 46:15worries by watching what's happening
-
46:15 - 46:18in Neighbors, by worrying who's
-
46:18 - 46:19going to win the cricket
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46:19 - 46:22or who's going to win the soccer
or who's going to win the footie -
46:22 - 46:25and people love the nail-biting finishes.
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46:25 - 46:27Or if they don't like those
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46:27 - 46:29they go to these extreme
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46:29 - 46:31sports and sometimes,
-
46:31 - 46:33I remember being in the airport
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46:33 - 46:35in Bangkok, and I saw on the
-
46:35 - 46:37big TV screen there, some of these
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46:37 - 46:39extreme sports people were doing.
-
46:39 - 46:42I remember seeing... they were
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46:42 - 46:47doing these motorbike races on ice!
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46:47 - 46:50That's crazy!
-
46:50 - 46:51What idiot would actually
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46:51 - 46:54race each other on these ice tracks
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46:54 - 46:56and sure enough, one person
-
46:56 - 46:57came off the bike (they had to
-
46:57 - 46:58have spikes on the wheels)
-
46:58 - 47:00and got spiked.
-
47:00 - 47:03Whoa, what do they do things like that for?
-
47:03 - 47:06Why do people do that?
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47:06 - 47:09Because people like to suffer.
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47:09 - 47:11Why they like to suffer,
-
47:11 - 47:13they like the thrill, the excitement
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47:13 - 47:19there is delight in suffering.
-
47:19 - 47:21Be careful.
-
47:21 - 47:23If you delight in suffering
-
47:23 - 47:25there's no way you can ever
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47:25 - 47:26be happy.
-
47:26 - 47:30If you attach to being the victim,
-
47:30 - 47:33if you just want the thrill
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47:33 - 47:35of being hurt, or being on the edge
-
47:35 - 47:38of being hurt, however can
-
47:38 - 47:41you be free?
-
47:41 - 47:42So, one of the ways
-
47:42 - 47:45of happiness in this world
-
47:45 - 47:49is able to notice why one can't
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47:49 - 47:51detach from that which is
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47:51 - 47:53genuinely painful and difficult to
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47:53 - 47:54bear with.
-
47:54 - 47:58Why do we become the victim?
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47:58 - 48:00Why do we become the sad one?
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48:00 - 48:05Why do sometimes we become the sick person?
-
48:05 - 48:07This is interesting, in some monasteries
-
48:07 - 48:09I've been in, you see people become
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48:09 - 48:11sick and sick and sick and sick,
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48:11 - 48:13and a lot of monks say it's because
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48:13 - 48:15they want to leave, they want to
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48:15 - 48:16disrobe, that's the only way they
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48:16 - 48:18know how of doing it.
-
48:18 - 48:19They actually become attached
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48:19 - 48:21to being the sick one
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48:21 - 48:24that's their persona.
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48:24 - 48:26It's called ego attachment.
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48:26 - 48:29It creates a sense of self.
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48:29 - 48:31This is one of the things the Buddha
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48:31 - 48:33kept on pointing to.
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48:33 - 48:36Who do you think you are?
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48:36 - 48:39What do you take as your self?
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48:39 - 48:41What is your ego?
-
48:41 - 48:44If you had wrote a list of who you
-
48:44 - 48:47were, what your attributes were,
-
48:47 - 48:49not in theory, but in practice
-
48:49 - 48:53and you wrote them down
-
48:53 - 48:55how many of those things would be
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48:55 - 48:56the angry person, the victim, the
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48:56 - 48:58person who was abused,
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48:58 - 48:59the person who was divorced,
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48:59 - 49:02the person who was sick,
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49:02 - 49:05the person who's had the mastectomy?
-
49:05 - 49:08How many of you take that
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49:08 - 49:10to be your self?
-
49:10 - 49:12There's a problem there,
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49:12 - 49:13because the Buddha noticed
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49:13 - 49:16if you identify with being that,
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49:16 - 49:23if you become that, you repeat it.
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49:23 - 49:26This is the sense of identity,
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49:26 - 49:28it's one of the reasons why
-
49:28 - 49:30when I did go into prisons
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49:30 - 49:32to visit prisoners.
-
49:32 - 49:34Again, I've never
-
49:34 - 49:35called them criminals, as you've
-
49:35 - 49:37heard me say before, there's
-
49:37 - 49:38people who've done crimes
-
49:38 - 49:40and I kept on telling the people
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49:40 - 49:42in jail, "You are not a criminal.
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49:42 - 49:45You are a person who's done a crime.
You're not a criminal. -
49:45 - 49:47You're something bigger than that.
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49:47 - 49:49Never think of yourself as a criminal.
-
49:49 - 49:52You're a person who's done a crime.
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49:52 - 49:56Don't identify with that
terrible act which you did. -
49:56 - 49:58If you make that sense
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49:58 - 50:00of self with your crime, if that's who
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50:00 - 50:02you think you are, you are the burglar,
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50:02 - 50:04you are the killer, you are the rapist,
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50:04 - 50:06you become that.
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50:06 - 50:09Which means when you
get released you'll do it again. -
50:09 - 50:10Because that's who you are.
-
50:10 - 50:12You're the rapist, you're the killer,
-
50:12 - 50:15you're the adulterer, you're the
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50:15 - 50:22child abuser.
-
50:22 - 50:25This is psychology, which I know
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50:25 - 50:26because I've gone deep into my
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50:26 - 50:28mind and seen the way that minds
-
50:28 - 50:29work.
-
50:29 - 50:34If you're -- you make an identity
-
50:34 - 50:37of who you think you are, that's
-
50:37 - 50:39how you relate to the the world.
-
50:39 - 50:40That's who you become.
-
50:40 - 50:42That's what you repeat.
-
50:42 - 50:44That's what's expected of you,
-
50:44 - 50:47so of course, that's what you do.
-
50:47 - 50:51And there we get the repeat
-
50:51 - 50:52of the harm and the hurt
-
50:52 - 50:55again and again and again and again.
-
50:55 - 50:56Why my father never
-
50:56 - 50:58thought of himself as the abused
-
50:58 - 51:00child, so that's why he never
-
51:00 - 51:02repeated the abuse on me.
-
51:02 - 51:05Why a person who just forgives,
-
51:05 - 51:08lets go, does not become the victim,
-
51:08 - 51:16becomes free and can live.
-
51:16 - 51:20Last story, was a story which -- again
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51:20 - 51:23many of these stories
you've heard here before -
51:23 - 51:26but, I usually try to bring them
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51:26 - 51:27together in one talk which is on
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51:27 - 51:31this one subject, simply because it fits
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51:31 - 51:33and this talk goes outside and gets
-
51:33 - 51:35put on CDs and it's nice to be complete --
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51:35 - 51:38and this was the story of those two
-
51:38 - 51:41Australian soldiers meeting together
-
51:41 - 51:44in a reunion, they'd both been in the
-
51:44 - 51:46Second World War, they'd both been
-
51:46 - 51:48in Singapore, the fall of Singapore,
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51:48 - 51:51and both been put in P.O.W. camps.
-
51:51 - 51:55Well, one met the other, and said,
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51:55 - 51:57"Have you forgiven the Japanese yet
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51:57 - 51:59for what they did to us and our friends?"
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51:59 - 52:01"No! Never!
-
52:01 - 52:03How can you forgive that??"
-
52:03 - 52:05said one of the soldiers.
-
52:05 - 52:06"What about you?"
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52:06 - 52:08His friend said, "I forgave years ago.
-
52:08 - 52:14But you, my friend, are
still in the P.O.W. camp." -
52:14 - 52:17I love that story, simply because
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52:17 - 52:20until you forgive -- until he forgave
-
52:20 - 52:22what those guards, those soldiers,
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52:22 - 52:25did to him and his friends,
-
52:25 - 52:28in the camps in Changi on the
-
52:28 - 52:30Death Railway in Thailand
-
52:30 - 52:32on the Burmese border.
-
52:32 - 52:34Until they forgave, they were still
-
52:34 - 52:36being tortured.
-
52:36 - 52:39They're still in the camps.
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52:39 - 52:42They can never be happy.
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52:42 - 52:45His friend had let go and therefore
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52:45 - 52:48he was free.
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52:48 - 52:50So when it comes
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52:50 - 52:53to happiness, you don't have to be
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52:53 - 52:56controlled by what others did to you.
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52:56 - 53:00You don't have to be limited,
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53:00 - 53:05in prison, in jail, by
the crimes which have -
53:05 - 53:09been perpetrated on you in the past.
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53:09 - 53:10You don't even have to worry about
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53:10 - 53:12the crimes which you've done,
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53:12 - 53:14I'm not talking about against the law,
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53:14 - 53:16but the harm and hurt which you
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53:16 - 53:18have done to others.
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53:18 - 53:20I don't know how many
people feel guilty about -
53:20 - 53:22some of the things they've done,
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53:22 - 53:24I've mentioned a few of those things
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53:24 - 53:27I've always felt guilty about: playing
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53:27 - 53:29my Jimmie Hendrix records too loud
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53:29 - 53:31to my father while he was playing his
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53:31 - 53:34Sinatra records, never really, sort of
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53:34 - 53:36being a really good son to
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53:36 - 53:38him; never selling those
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53:38 - 53:40encyclopedias when I was a kid,
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53:40 - 53:42getting someone actually to buy
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53:42 - 53:44an encyclopedia, just a rubbish book.
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53:44 - 53:46I don't know why they even bought that,
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53:46 - 53:47but I made them buy it.
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53:47 - 53:49And all the terrible things you did as
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53:49 - 53:52a kid, gee, what did I do those for?
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53:52 - 53:56It's so easy to feel guilty about the
smallest of things. -
53:56 - 53:58Why not, why can't we just let them
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53:58 - 54:02go, learn from them and move on?
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54:02 - 54:04Until you do, you can never be
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54:04 - 54:06free and never be happy.
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54:06 - 54:12And this is not a small thing.
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54:12 - 54:14You can never really be virtuous
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54:14 - 54:17and good until you're free.
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54:17 - 54:20And as far as meditation is concerned,
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54:20 - 54:22no matter how many people I've taught
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54:22 - 54:24meditation to, when they get to a
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54:24 - 54:27certain point in happiness and peace,
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54:27 - 54:30they can't go any further, and they kept
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54:30 - 54:33coming back with the same complaint,
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54:33 - 54:39"I don't think I deserve to be so happy.
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54:39 - 54:43I don't think I deserve to be at peace.
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54:43 - 54:45I don't think I deserve to be
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54:45 - 54:48enlightened," basically.
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54:48 - 54:51And really that's another
dagger to my heart. -
54:51 - 54:54Why not?
If all I do in my life -
54:54 - 54:57as a monk, teaching here Friday night,
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54:57 - 55:00going overseas, if that's all I ever
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55:00 - 55:02give to you, the conviction that
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55:02 - 55:06you deserve to be happy, that you
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55:06 - 55:09deserve to be free, that you deserve
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55:09 - 55:11to be enlightened.
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55:11 - 55:15You don't feel
so guilty, you don't attach to those -
55:15 - 55:17painful things in the past.
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55:17 - 55:20You are free.
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55:20 - 55:21You can let go,
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55:21 - 55:24both other people's harm, and
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55:24 - 55:28your own harm as well;
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55:28 - 55:30be able to forgive yourself
and forgive others. -
55:30 - 55:32What that means
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55:32 - 55:34is giving yourself the gift of
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55:34 - 55:36freedom.
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55:36 - 55:38No one else can do that for you.
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55:38 - 55:40Look, a Jesus can't forgive,
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55:40 - 55:43a monk can't forgive, a Buddha
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55:43 - 55:46can't forgive, a God can't forgive,
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55:46 - 55:48only you can forgive you.
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55:48 - 55:50No one else.
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55:50 - 55:51All these other people
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55:51 - 55:52they can encourage, they can teach,
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55:52 - 55:54they can lead, they can inspire,
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55:54 - 55:58but in the end it's up to you.
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55:58 - 56:03One day, one day you'll do that.
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56:03 - 56:06This life, the next life, or some life,
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56:06 - 56:08you'll look at all your past, all the
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56:08 - 56:14hurt, all the harm, and let it go.
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56:14 - 56:16Say to yourself, in those words of
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56:16 - 56:19my father, "Whatever I have done
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56:19 - 56:22in my life, what other people
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56:22 - 56:26have done to me, the door of my heart
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56:26 - 56:30is open to me, fully, absolutely.
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56:30 - 56:34Happiness, freedom, come in."
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56:34 - 56:38To be able to invite freedom in,
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56:38 - 56:40invite happiness in.
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56:40 - 56:43There's a liberation there,
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56:43 - 56:45which is why very often the Buddha
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56:45 - 56:47called those enlightenment
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56:47 - 56:50experiences liberations.
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56:50 - 56:54Freedom from suffering, freedom from pain,
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56:54 - 56:57freedom from the past!
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56:57 - 56:59Why do we carry the past around,
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56:59 - 57:01so heavy on our back? Because
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57:01 - 57:05that's what being a victim is.
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57:05 - 57:07I was telling people in Melbourne,
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57:07 - 57:08I just came back from Melbourne
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57:08 - 57:11on Wednesday night, just reminiscing,
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57:11 - 57:13'cause someone asked, "What was
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57:13 - 57:16it like being a monk in Thailand
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57:16 - 57:18many years ago?"
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57:18 - 57:20I was reminiscing
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57:20 - 57:24about one of the most wonderful times
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57:24 - 57:26I had in Thailand.
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57:26 - 57:29When after five years I left my monastery
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57:29 - 57:33with all my possessions on my back
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57:33 - 57:36(and that wasn't many possessions).
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57:36 - 57:40You had to walk and you had
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57:40 - 57:43no place to go, you could go to
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57:43 - 57:46any monastery and have a bed
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57:46 - 57:49for the night, any village in the morning
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57:49 - 57:52with your bowl, and get some food in it.
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57:52 - 57:55You're completely free.
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57:55 - 57:57Any tree you could just sit
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57:57 - 57:59underneath it, put your mosquito net
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57:59 - 58:04there, meditate, sleep.
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58:04 - 58:06It was literally like being a bird,
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58:06 - 58:08but better than being a bird,
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58:08 - 58:11a bird always has to hunt for their food.
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58:11 - 58:13For me, I knew any place,
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58:13 - 58:15any village I went to, there was food
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58:15 - 58:18there for me.
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58:18 - 58:19And it was such a freedom
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58:19 - 58:22because I was attached to no place
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58:22 - 58:26and to no thing.
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58:26 - 58:28Every crossroads I got
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58:28 - 58:33to I could go forward, go left, go right,
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58:33 - 58:35or just turn 'round and go back.
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58:35 - 58:38I had no duties, nothing compelling
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58:38 - 58:42me to go in any directions.
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58:42 - 58:46No duties, no burdens, no things
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58:46 - 58:49to do, no unfinished business.
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58:49 - 58:53This complete freedom is physically
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58:53 - 58:56the most freedom I've ever felt,
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58:56 - 58:59and everything you owned,
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58:59 - 59:01you had with you: my bowl,
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59:01 - 59:03my mosquito net, an umbrella,
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59:03 - 59:05water pot, spare set of robes
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59:05 - 59:06and that was all.
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59:06 - 59:08You could wander
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59:08 - 59:10wherever you wanted.
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59:10 - 59:13It was so much freedom.
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59:13 - 59:15I always remember
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59:15 - 59:17that that's the same freedom which you
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59:17 - 59:20can have in your mind at any time.
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59:20 - 59:22Any crossroads you come to in life,
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59:22 - 59:24go whichever way,
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59:24 - 59:27'cause you're not burdened by the past,
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59:27 - 59:31you're not carrying baggage.
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59:31 - 59:33How much baggage do people carry
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59:33 - 59:35in this life?
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59:35 - 59:37Mostly it's the baggage of our past,
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59:37 - 59:40our history.
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59:40 - 59:42What happened to you,
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59:42 - 59:46who did what to you, who said what,
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59:46 - 59:51if you want happiness, let go.
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59:51 - 59:55Free your past, at very least,
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59:55 - 59:58free the pain of the past and keep
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59:58 - 60:01the happy memories -- at least that way
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60:01 - 60:04you're carrying enjoyable baggage --
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60:04 - 60:07but even better to leave it all behind.
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60:07 - 60:10There is such a thing as happiness
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60:10 - 60:13in this world and the happiness
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60:13 - 60:15is no one else's responsibility,
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60:15 - 60:19it's yours and that happiness
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60:19 - 60:21is there for you at any moment
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60:21 - 60:23at any time.
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60:23 - 60:24There's a door, which
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60:24 - 60:27is open from the cell which is
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60:27 - 60:29sometimes what your life feels like,
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60:29 - 60:31being in a prison of your past,
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60:31 - 60:33of what happened to you,
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60:33 - 60:37of your body, your pain, your sickness,
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60:37 - 60:39this pain which has happened to you --
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60:39 - 60:42That's like being in a prison, but it's
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60:42 - 60:46a prison whose door is always open,
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60:46 - 60:49always open, it's just sometimes we
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60:49 - 60:52don't know how to walk through it.
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60:52 - 60:54Sometimes we think we're not supposed
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60:54 - 60:55to walk through it.
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60:55 - 60:58And here I tell you,
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60:58 - 61:01walk, be free, let go.
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61:01 - 61:03There is such a thing as happiness in
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61:03 - 61:08life, there is such a thing as freedom,
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61:08 - 61:10there is such a thing as forgiveness
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61:10 - 61:12and reconciliation, there is such
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61:12 - 61:16a thing, there's such love that you can
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61:16 - 61:20free yourself and free others and let go.
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61:20 - 61:23And that freedom and that love is
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61:23 - 61:26not a copping out of life, that is the
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61:26 - 61:30heart of a positive response.
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61:30 - 61:32Free yourself and you show
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61:32 - 61:34the way to freedom for others.
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61:34 - 61:36And much of the pain and
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61:36 - 61:39the cause of pain in life -- as the
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61:39 - 61:41Assistant Commissioner said today,
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61:41 - 61:43something like 80 or 90%,
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61:43 - 61:46he was saying of people in prisons
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61:46 - 61:48in Western Australia have themselves
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61:48 - 61:54been victims of child abuse.
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61:54 - 61:56Because they could not forgive,
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61:56 - 61:59because they could not let go,
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61:59 - 62:01because they could not find freedom,
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62:01 - 62:04now they're in jail
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62:04 - 62:08having also caused pain to others.
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62:08 - 62:11So what is the way forward?
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62:11 - 62:13I think I've shown it to you:
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62:13 - 62:16to have the guts to see things in
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62:16 - 62:21a different way, to free oneself.
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62:21 - 62:23You don't need to feel grief,
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62:23 - 62:25you don't need to feel that pain.
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62:25 - 62:27You can walk out whenever you want.
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62:27 - 62:29It's called freedom,
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62:29 - 62:32the path to happiness.
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62:32 - 62:34That's the talk this evening
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62:34 - 62:36on is it possible to be happy?
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62:36 - 62:39Yes, that's one of the ways how.
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62:39 - 62:42Audience: Sadhu, Sadhu, Sadhu!
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62:42 - 62:45Ajahn: Ok, so any questions or comments?
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62:45 - 62:47I hope it's been challenging,
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62:47 - 62:50I hope a few people disagree with me.
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62:50 - 62:53Otherwise, I didn't challenge hard enough.
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62:53 - 62:56Any comments or questions
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62:56 - 63:00about the talk this evening?
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63:00 - 63:02Maybe that's just something for
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63:02 - 63:04you to contemplate... see later on
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63:04 - 63:08if it makes sense or not.
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63:08 - 63:11No, no comments, questions? Ok
- Title:
- Freedom: The Path To Happiness | Ajahn Brahm
- Description:
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Is it really possible to find happiness in our busy modern lives? Ajahn Brahm talks about the path to happiness in the context of our modern lives.
For those abused and wronged is happiness actually possible? Attachment to painful emotions, such as grief, anger, bitterness, the notion of a wounded self with a distinct identity: all these can become a perpetual prison...
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
Buddhist Society of Western Australia
- Project:
- Friday Night Dhamma Talks
- Duration:
- 01:03:11
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