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Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.65,0:00:03.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had a request for a talk yesterday,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:03.60,0:00:06.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which I promised I would give today,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:06.20,0:00:08.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for someone who is asking the question,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:08.63,0:00:11.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Is happiness really possible
Dialogue: 0,0:00:11.32,0:00:12.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in our modern life,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:12.54,0:00:15.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or are we always going to have to
Dialogue: 0,0:00:15.26,0:00:17.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have suffering and problems
Dialogue: 0,0:00:17.00,0:00:18.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and difficulties in our life?"
Dialogue: 0,0:00:18.83,0:00:23.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, it's a talk about happiness
Dialogue: 0,0:00:23.69,0:00:27.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and obviously, many of you know that
Dialogue: 0,0:00:27.85,0:00:29.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Buddhist monks are supposed to be
Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.67,0:00:31.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the happiest people in the world -- that
Dialogue: 0,0:00:31.80,0:00:33.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was the findings from Professor
Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.91,0:00:37.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Davidson of Wisconsin University.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.06,0:00:40.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, that's objective
Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.48,0:00:42.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in other words, that's what they
Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.42,0:00:43.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,find on a functional
Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.69,0:00:46.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Magnetic Resonance (fMRI) scan\Nof a person's brain.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:46.84,0:00:49.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, surely that Buddhists should know
Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.87,0:00:53.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something about happiness and its causes.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.55,0:00:55.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And for those of you who know basic
Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.37,0:00:57.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Buddhism, that's the whole purpose of the
Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.38,0:00:58.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Four Noble Truths.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:58.64,0:01:02.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The basic teachings of the Buddha, the
Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.05,0:01:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,heart of this thing we call, "Buddhism."
Dialogue: 0,0:01:04.00,0:01:05.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You may say, and it's accurate
Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.67,0:01:07.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to say, it's all about the Four Noble
Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.78,0:01:09.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Truths, and you also know that the
Dialogue: 0,0:01:09.86,0:01:11.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,way I've been teaching the Four Noble
Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.66,0:01:13.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Truths for many years now, is
Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.72,0:01:16.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rearranging the Four Noble Truths
Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.56,0:01:19.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and talking about: happiness, it's cause,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:19.18,0:01:20.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sometimes we are happy, and why
Dialogue: 0,0:01:20.72,0:01:22.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're not happy.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:22.41,0:01:24.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Those four Noble Truths:
Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.07,0:01:26.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,happiness, the cause of happiness,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.64,0:01:28.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that sometimes we're unhappy,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.73,0:01:30.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why we're unhappy.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.69,0:01:32.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, that to me made so much sense
Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.81,0:01:34.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when I was a young man, because
Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.46,0:01:36.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really I thought the essence of all
Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.38,0:01:38.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,religions was basically the answer to
Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.96,0:01:41.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,two questions: "what is happiness"
Dialogue: 0,0:01:41.36,0:01:44.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and, "how do I get it."
Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.07,0:01:46.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I knew those two answers, then you'd
Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.08,0:01:49.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have all the religion you\Nreally wanted in the world.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.44,0:01:51.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because all the other theories,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.11,0:01:53.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and philosophies and theologies
Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.46,0:01:55.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and all that sort of stuff
Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.13,0:01:57.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was all very well to talk about,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.20,0:01:59.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but what I was really concerned with
Dialogue: 0,0:01:59.10,0:02:00.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in my life, was, you know, the problem
Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.96,0:02:02.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of happiness and suffering
Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.45,0:02:04.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how to overcome the suffering
Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.46,0:02:07.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and find real true happiness.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.52,0:02:10.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, the question of, "is there happiness
Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.78,0:02:12.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in this world," from personal experience
Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.72,0:02:15.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can say yes, there certainly is.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.81,0:02:17.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Real happiness, true happiness.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:17.83,0:02:21.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it's also fascinating\Nin my life's journey to find
Dialogue: 0,0:02:21.08,0:02:23.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that that happiness lies in places where
Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.08,0:02:24.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people just don't even look.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.89,0:02:27.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's because we don't\Nlook in those places
Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.49,0:02:29.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that many people will live their whole
Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.48,0:02:31.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,life and never actually\Nexperience the deep,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:31.84,0:02:33.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,peaceful, wonderful happinesses
Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.51,0:02:37.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which are possible in life.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.07,0:02:39.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But first of all, I'm sort of saying about
Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.10,0:02:41.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what happiness is and how to get it.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.17,0:02:43.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now all this -- is start talking -- in
Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.74,0:02:47.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this little presentation today, about why
Dialogue: 0,0:02:47.68,0:02:50.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is it that people have problems in life?
Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.60,0:02:54.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is the cause of unhappiness in life?
Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.66,0:02:55.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why do people keep getting
Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.97,0:02:57.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into these unhappy states?
Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.61,0:02:59.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Certainly there is part of life
Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.55,0:03:00.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is beyond one's control,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:00.100,0:03:03.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there are the difficulties and pains
Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.36,0:03:05.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of life: the death of a loved one,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.37,0:03:07.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the disappointments in one's career,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:07.31,0:03:09.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the problems with one's children,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:09.55,0:03:11.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the arguments with one's partner,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.60,0:03:13.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the pain of sickness in the body,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:13.79,0:03:15.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or just the basic getting caught in
Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.85,0:03:17.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,traffic jams when you're on the way
Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.76,0:03:19.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the Buddhist Society.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.14,0:03:20.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The basic sufferings in life
Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.54,0:03:24.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are there but they're\Nnot the real sufferings.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:24.25,0:03:27.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The point is, that one of the things\Nwhich the Buddha
Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.08,0:03:28.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,says, is it's the attachment --
Dialogue: 0,0:03:28.88,0:03:31.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,carrying those burdens around
Dialogue: 0,0:03:31.17,0:03:33.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more than they should be.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.64,0:03:36.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's where I'm going to start
Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.09,0:03:37.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this talk today.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:37.58,0:03:39.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why is it that people get
Dialogue: 0,0:03:39.89,0:03:43.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,attached to suffering?
Dialogue: 0,0:03:43.69,0:03:46.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's basically what it is.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.43,0:03:49.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Many years ago, I was privileged to give a
Dialogue: 0,0:03:49.93,0:03:52.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,talk at a grief and loss conference
Dialogue: 0,0:03:52.82,0:03:54.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Observation City.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.50,0:03:56.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was a national conference
Dialogue: 0,0:03:56.92,0:03:58.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on grief and loss
Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.95,0:04:01.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all run by some psychologists
Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.20,0:04:03.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and psychiatrists.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:03.57,0:04:06.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, I remember giving a presentation
Dialogue: 0,0:04:06.60,0:04:08.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there, just after there'd been
Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.83,0:04:10.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a presentation by the parents
Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.75,0:04:13.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of, I think, Ciara Glennon, one of the
Dialogue: 0,0:04:13.35,0:04:15.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,young ladies who was killed by the
Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.87,0:04:18.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Claremont Killer, ' (still not found
Dialogue: 0,0:04:18.55,0:04:20.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who exactly did that)
Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.33,0:04:23.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they're expressing just their pain
Dialogue: 0,0:04:23.48,0:04:25.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the loss of their daughter.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:25.23,0:04:28.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think a young girl, I think she was a
Dialogue: 0,0:04:28.60,0:04:31.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lawyer, successful, beautiful, who
Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.29,0:04:32.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just disappeared one night
Dialogue: 0,0:04:32.59,0:04:34.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and her body was found
Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.12,0:04:36.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sometime later, by the 'Claremont
Dialogue: 0,0:04:36.61,0:04:39.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Killer, ' whoever that was.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:39.18,0:04:41.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And apparently that session (which I did
Dialogue: 0,0:04:41.24,0:04:44.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not attend myself) created a great feeling
Dialogue: 0,0:04:44.28,0:04:47.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of suffering and angst amongst the
Dialogue: 0,0:04:47.49,0:04:49.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people in the conference.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.73,0:04:51.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I came along with my usual
Dialogue: 0,0:04:51.43,0:04:54.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,positive attitude on\Nhow to deal with death.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.54,0:04:56.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not just my positive attitude,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:56.80,0:04:58.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I had lived in Thailand
Dialogue: 0,0:04:58.30,0:05:01.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for nine years and it's one of those
Dialogue: 0,0:05:01.39,0:05:04.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sayings which comes from my experience.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:04.02,0:05:07.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In nine years, if you like research,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:07.43,0:05:09.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and my research was actually
Dialogue: 0,0:05:09.16,0:05:11.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,attending funeral after funeral after
Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.20,0:05:12.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,funeral, cremation after cremation
Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.98,0:05:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because our monastery in Thailand
Dialogue: 0,0:05:15.00,0:05:18.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was a local cremation ground.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:18.02,0:05:20.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We hang out with the ghosts.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:20.24,0:05:22.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which was actually a very\Npeaceful place to stay.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:22.85,0:05:25.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I was wandering,\Nyou wanted to get away
Dialogue: 0,0:05:25.14,0:05:26.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from people 'cause you know,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.44,0:05:28.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was a monk\NI like a bit of peace and quiet,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.93,0:05:30.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ajahn Chah always used to tell us
Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.55,0:05:32.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that when you want to stay somewhere
Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.44,0:05:34.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at night time, ask the local village
Dialogue: 0,0:05:34.27,0:05:35.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where the cremation ground is,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:35.75,0:05:37.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it'd be like an open area in a forest
Dialogue: 0,0:05:37.67,0:05:39.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you go and stay there.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:39.26,0:05:40.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's the most peaceful place
Dialogue: 0,0:05:40.62,0:05:42.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because the villagers are too scared
Dialogue: 0,0:05:42.66,0:05:44.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to come and visit you. [laughter]
Dialogue: 0,0:05:44.35,0:05:46.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I really loved those ghosts
Dialogue: 0,0:05:46.37,0:05:48.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for protecting me, they were my
Dialogue: 0,0:05:48.03,0:05:49.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bodyguards, my minders to keep all
Dialogue: 0,0:05:49.84,0:05:51.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the people away, so I could meditate
Dialogue: 0,0:05:51.78,0:05:53.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,quietly and peacefully.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:53.23,0:05:55.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, good on you ghosts!
Dialogue: 0,0:05:55.93,0:05:58.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But that particular forest monastery
Dialogue: 0,0:05:58.56,0:06:01.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wat Pah Nanachat\Nthat was like a ghost monastery
Dialogue: 0,0:06:01.30,0:06:03.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they had a cremation ground there
Dialogue: 0,0:06:03.69,0:06:07.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but also, I used to see so many funeral
Dialogue: 0,0:06:07.58,0:06:09.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,services, again and again and again.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:09.77,0:06:11.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And because you were dependent upon those
Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.96,0:06:13.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,villagers for your alms food, you'd
Dialogue: 0,0:06:13.81,0:06:15.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,see them every morning.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:15.86,0:06:18.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You'd go into their village.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:18.66,0:06:20.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And these are the people you grew up with.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:20.75,0:06:23.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I remember, just I was nine years in
Dialogue: 0,0:06:23.55,0:06:25.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thailand mostly that monastery,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:25.34,0:06:27.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when I came over here,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:27.49,0:06:29.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to help start this monastery over in
Dialogue: 0,0:06:29.87,0:06:32.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Serpentine and help support
Dialogue: 0,0:06:32.00,0:06:33.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this Buddhist Society of Western
Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.86,0:06:35.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Australia, I think it was about
Dialogue: 0,0:06:35.57,0:06:37.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,four or five years before I had the
Dialogue: 0,0:06:37.36,0:06:39.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,chance to go back to that village
Dialogue: 0,0:06:39.10,0:06:40.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and as soon as I went back there,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:40.90,0:06:43.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,getting back into that monastery\Nin the late afternoon,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:43.78,0:06:45.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the first time the villagers knew I
Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.45,0:06:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was there, was when I went on Alms Round,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:48.00,0:06:52.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,see all these ladies and men
Dialogue: 0,0:06:52.43,0:06:53.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they looked up,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:53.68,0:06:56.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"It's Ajahn Brahm!" and they'd start
Dialogue: 0,0:06:56.71,0:07:00.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,crying because\Nyou did become part of the village.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:00.09,0:07:03.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was one of them,\Nhad gone away for about four / five
Dialogue: 0,0:07:03.25,0:07:05.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,years and come back again.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:05.90,0:07:07.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's actually how close we
Dialogue: 0,0:07:07.85,0:07:09.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were knitted into that community.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:09.76,0:07:14.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I mention that point simply because
Dialogue: 0,0:07:14.54,0:07:16.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it establishes a fact that I didn't
Dialogue: 0,0:07:16.46,0:07:18.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just see these people at the funeral
Dialogue: 0,0:07:18.51,0:07:20.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,services, I saw them before,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:20.13,0:07:21.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I saw them afterwards.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:21.42,0:07:24.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These are the people I knew.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:24.77,0:07:26.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I never saw grief.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:26.44,0:07:28.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I never saw people crying.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:28.74,0:07:30.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was actually once, I must admit, in
Dialogue: 0,0:07:30.73,0:07:33.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all those nine years, that once I saw a
Dialogue: 0,0:07:33.01,0:07:35.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tear, maybe just one or two drops of
Dialogue: 0,0:07:35.73,0:07:37.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tears fall down the cheek,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:37.43,0:07:39.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of one lady who lost her husband.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:39.91,0:07:43.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But apart from that, there was no
Dialogue: 0,0:07:43.17,0:07:46.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,solid grief like you see here\Nin Western Australia.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:46.34,0:07:49.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it wasn't that it was
Dialogue: 0,0:07:49.21,0:07:50.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,suppressed, it was just people
Dialogue: 0,0:07:50.64,0:07:52.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,solaced in a different attitude,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:52.54,0:07:55.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they weren't so attached
Dialogue: 0,0:07:55.27,0:07:57.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to their loved ones.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:57.88,0:08:01.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And to me it was a revelation
Dialogue: 0,0:08:01.07,0:08:02.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what I said at the conference,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:02.78,0:08:05.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that there is a difference, a separation
Dialogue: 0,0:08:05.27,0:08:08.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between grief and loss.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:08.46,0:08:10.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Loss will always be there.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:10.08,0:08:14.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But grief, is an added extra.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:14.31,0:08:16.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And seeing a culture -- and that northeast
Dialogue: 0,0:08:16.94,0:08:19.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,part of Thailand had not been affected
Dialogue: 0,0:08:19.83,0:08:22.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by any other western influence
Dialogue: 0,0:08:22.55,0:08:26.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so it was like a pure old Buddhist culture
Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.10,0:08:28.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and when you actually saw just how
Dialogue: 0,0:08:28.87,0:08:31.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that pure Buddhist culture related to a
Dialogue: 0,0:08:31.62,0:08:34.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,death, it was a revelation to see that
Dialogue: 0,0:08:34.48,0:08:38.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there was a society where grief\Nbasically did not exist.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:38.96,0:08:43.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, it showed me that our grief
Dialogue: 0,0:08:43.82,0:08:45.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is a cultural addition.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:45.77,0:08:49.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is another way of looking at it.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:49.46,0:08:53.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And why is it that we attach to\Nthat sort of suffering?
Dialogue: 0,0:08:53.58,0:08:54.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And basically, it's the
Dialogue: 0,0:08:54.83,0:08:57.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,same reason (you may not agree with
Dialogue: 0,0:08:57.16,0:09:00.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,me on this, but) I'm challenging you here.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:00.01,0:09:04.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's the same reason, why it is\Nthat we go to see these weepy movies,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:04.11,0:09:06.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because we like to cry.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:06.95,0:09:10.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We actually encourage\Nthese emotions inside of us.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:10.68,0:09:14.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We like to feel emotional.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:14.66,0:09:16.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is a lady who comes here,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:16.53,0:09:18.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she's not here this evening, thank
Dialogue: 0,0:09:18.19,0:09:20.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,goodness [audience laughter], but she
Dialogue: 0,0:09:20.03,0:09:21.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,once told me that her mother
Dialogue: 0,0:09:21.40,0:09:22.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would always love going
Dialogue: 0,0:09:22.83,0:09:24.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to see these weepy movies,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.15,0:09:29.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these Chinese movies and\Nshe described them to me.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:29.23,0:09:32.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Apparently the Chinese movies,\Nthere's enough people here from
Dialogue: 0,0:09:32.86,0:09:35.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Malaysia, Singapore here, Hong Kong
Dialogue: 0,0:09:35.61,0:09:37.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you know what I'm talking about --
Dialogue: 0,0:09:37.63,0:09:42.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,boy meets girl, but boy never gets girl!
Dialogue: 0,0:09:42.45,0:09:45.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Either the family or the Imperial Army
Dialogue: 0,0:09:45.11,0:09:47.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or some other tragedy gets in the way
Dialogue: 0,0:09:47.74,0:09:49.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[audience laughing] and in the end,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:49.80,0:09:53.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,boy and girl, are killed or separated.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:53.36,0:09:56.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they know that's going to happen!
Dialogue: 0,0:09:56.30,0:09:58.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every movie is the same.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:58.24,0:10:00.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's always a sad ending.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:00.19,0:10:02.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So her mother would come back from
Dialogue: 0,0:10:02.60,0:10:04.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the weekly trip to the movies,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:04.11,0:10:07.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with red eyes, she'd been crying all the
Dialogue: 0,0:10:07.40,0:10:10.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,way through, all the way home, and she
Dialogue: 0,0:10:10.56,0:10:13.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,asked, "What the heck you do that for?"
Dialogue: 0,0:10:13.73,0:10:15.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Ah, 'cause it's nice to cry.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:15.77,0:10:17.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's so sad
Dialogue: 0,0:10:17.31,0:10:20.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so enjoyable to feel sad."
Dialogue: 0,0:10:20.50,0:10:23.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[audience laughing]
Dialogue: 0,0:10:23.70,0:10:27.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, that's not so funny, because
Dialogue: 0,0:10:27.68,0:10:29.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at this conference, there's always
Dialogue: 0,0:10:29.60,0:10:31.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,key experiences which happen in
Dialogue: 0,0:10:31.62,0:10:35.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my life, and it was after I gave
Dialogue: 0,0:10:35.01,0:10:36.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that little presentation
Dialogue: 0,0:10:36.42,0:10:38.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on how to look at life and
Dialogue: 0,0:10:38.01,0:10:40.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,death in a different way,\Nso you don't have to be sad.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:40.96,0:10:42.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A lady came up to me
Dialogue: 0,0:10:42.85,0:10:45.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and said, "What's wrong with being sad,"
Dialogue: 0,0:10:45.69,0:10:49.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because she'd lost a close relation
Dialogue: 0,0:10:49.35,0:10:51.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in tragic circumstances, and she'd been
Dialogue: 0,0:10:51.62,0:10:54.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,grieving about 5 or 6 years,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:54.26,0:10:58.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there's no way she would\Ngive up her grief.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:58.70,0:11:01.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I saw, in that lady, she was attached
Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.43,0:11:03.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to grieving.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:03.24,0:11:04.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was her persona.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:04.45,0:11:06.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She would go to conference after
Dialogue: 0,0:11:06.33,0:11:09.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,conference, therapist after therapist,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:09.73,0:11:14.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was her identity to be the griever.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:14.21,0:11:16.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's one of our big problems there.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:16.73,0:11:18.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes we form our identities,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:18.87,0:11:20.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we attach to that suffering, and that's
Dialogue: 0,0:11:20.92,0:11:22.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'me.'
Dialogue: 0,0:11:22.41,0:11:26.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We become the victims.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:26.62,0:11:30.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we enjoy, in a perverse way, being
Dialogue: 0,0:11:30.58,0:11:32.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that victim.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:32.31,0:11:35.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We enjoy the grief.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:35.24,0:11:38.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's one of the sayings of the Buddha
Dialogue: 0,0:11:38.57,0:11:40.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which you see again and again in the
Dialogue: 0,0:11:40.69,0:11:44.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,original teachings, he's saying all these
Dialogue: 0,0:11:44.01,0:11:46.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,negative emotions, like grief, like anger,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:46.04,0:11:49.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like jealousy, even like fear,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:49.42,0:11:53.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he said there is a delight there.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:53.55,0:11:55.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If there wasn't a delight,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:55.04,0:11:57.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then people wouldn't get into the fear, or
Dialogue: 0,0:11:57.26,0:11:59.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into the jealousy, or into the anger.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:59.51,0:12:02.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'Cause you know that when you feel angry,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:02.56,0:12:04.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sometimes people do feel the power.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:04.97,0:12:06.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's like a heroin or like a
Dialogue: 0,0:12:06.92,0:12:08.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,methamphetamine.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:08.70,0:12:13.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, you're empowered at that time.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:13.00,0:12:15.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is a delight in those states,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:15.07,0:12:17.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is why people get into being angry
Dialogue: 0,0:12:17.63,0:12:21.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or into being violent, into being jealous
Dialogue: 0,0:12:21.06,0:12:24.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or actually even into being grief.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:24.91,0:12:26.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is a delight there.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:26.84,0:12:29.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is one of the wonderful sayings\Nof the Buddha.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:29.64,0:12:33.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because there is a delight there,\Nthat's why people attach to those things.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:33.54,0:12:34.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the reason why they don't
Dialogue: 0,0:12:34.97,0:12:36.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,let go is because they see the delight
Dialogue: 0,0:12:36.92,0:12:39.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they don't see the danger.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:39.74,0:12:42.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With anger, yeah, you get a high,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:42.09,0:12:44.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but you have to pay for that afterwards.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:44.31,0:12:46.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like a drug.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:46.87,0:12:48.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And many of the other negative emotions
Dialogue: 0,0:12:48.79,0:12:51.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which we have, like jealousy, yeah you
Dialogue: 0,0:12:51.45,0:12:55.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,get a sense of being the one left out,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:55.63,0:12:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but you have to pay for it afterwards.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:59.99,0:13:02.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Grief, you feel that, yeah,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:02.22,0:13:03.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you are the victim.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:03.92,0:13:05.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But my goodness, how much
Dialogue: 0,0:13:05.76,0:13:08.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have to pay.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:08.49,0:13:10.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's those attachments\Nto those negative
Dialogue: 0,0:13:10.55,0:13:13.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,emotions, especially the attachment to the
Dialogue: 0,0:13:13.91,0:13:18.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pain of the past, that stops us being
Dialogue: 0,0:13:18.13,0:13:22.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,free to be happy.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:22.64,0:13:25.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This morning I went to a little conference
Dialogue: 0,0:13:25.64,0:13:29.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,run by the Catholic Education\NSociety or Center.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:29.11,0:13:31.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was for the teachers and the
Dialogue: 0,0:13:31.37,0:13:32.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,counseling education system.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:32.94,0:13:36.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was about reconciliation\Nand forgiveness.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:36.18,0:13:38.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there's some very good speakers there
Dialogue: 0,0:13:38.37,0:13:40.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from an Assistant Commissioner to
Dialogue: 0,0:13:40.44,0:13:42.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Michelle Stubbs, who's the coordinator,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:42.59,0:13:46.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think, of the victims of child abuse.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:46.35,0:13:50.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like a huge problem in\Nour modern society.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:50.09,0:13:51.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How many people have been
Dialogue: 0,0:13:51.84,0:13:54.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sexually or physically abused when
Dialogue: 0,0:13:54.22,0:13:56.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they were children.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:56.14,0:14:00.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And how the heck do we deal with that.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:00.30,0:14:03.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, what was being suggested
Dialogue: 0,0:14:03.14,0:14:06.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was and this is an interesting\Nthing, that many of
Dialogue: 0,0:14:06.16,0:14:08.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those victims of child sexual
Dialogue: 0,0:14:08.17,0:14:12.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,abuse feel that they need to have their
Dialogue: 0,0:14:12.49,0:14:15.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,day in court to be heard, to have their
Dialogue: 0,0:14:15.93,0:14:18.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pain acknowledged, and to have
Dialogue: 0,0:14:18.55,0:14:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some sort of retribution.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:22.00,0:14:24.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our society asks for more
Dialogue: 0,0:14:24.64,0:14:27.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than retribution, asks for
Dialogue: 0,0:14:27.58,0:14:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,punishment: jail sentences,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:30.00,0:14:31.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,non-jail sentences.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:31.62,0:14:37.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some people would want corporal punishment\Nor even executions.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:37.87,0:14:39.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, on part of that
Dialogue: 0,0:14:39.98,0:14:42.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,debate, I was sitting next to a Catholic
Dialogue: 0,0:14:42.46,0:14:45.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Priest who told me an anecdote from
Dialogue: 0,0:14:45.00,0:14:48.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the United States, where some of the
Dialogue: 0,0:14:48.39,0:14:50.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,relations of a person who was, I think
Dialogue: 0,0:14:50.98,0:14:55.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,killed, murdered, attended the execution
Dialogue: 0,0:14:55.73,0:14:58.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the relation's, loved-one's
Dialogue: 0,0:14:58.49,0:15:00.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,murderer.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:00.51,0:15:01.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And after witnessing the
Dialogue: 0,0:15:01.81,0:15:04.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,execution, came back and said,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:04.81,0:15:08.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the execution was too fast.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:08.56,0:15:10.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It should've been slower.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:10.55,0:15:14.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That really hurt me so much.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:14.92,0:15:17.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They wanted pain.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:17.06,0:15:19.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They wanted suffering in the person
Dialogue: 0,0:15:19.87,0:15:21.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who killed their -- I don't know, child
Dialogue: 0,0:15:21.98,0:15:24.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or relation or whatever it was -- he
Dialogue: 0,0:15:24.14,0:15:26.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,never gave the details.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:26.86,0:15:28.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is it in a human being
Dialogue: 0,0:15:28.35,0:15:31.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wants to harm others because
Dialogue: 0,0:15:31.92,0:15:35.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they have harmed us?
Dialogue: 0,0:15:35.66,0:15:39.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I say that's this attachment to
Dialogue: 0,0:15:39.45,0:15:44.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being a victim, attachment, you know, to,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:44.20,0:15:46.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or this cultural way of looking at things,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:46.70,0:15:48.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an 'eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth'
Dialogue: 0,0:15:48.62,0:15:51.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is still very, very strong in many people
Dialogue: 0,0:15:51.56,0:15:53.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in our society.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:53.39,0:15:56.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when I was asked, "What does Buddhism
Dialogue: 0,0:15:56.48,0:16:00.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think about things like that," I quoted a
Dialogue: 0,0:16:00.72,0:16:04.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,book which I read as a student, which
Dialogue: 0,0:16:04.67,0:16:07.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,changed much of the way I looked
Dialogue: 0,0:16:07.84,0:16:13.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at being a victim or crime and punishments
Dialogue: 0,0:16:13.04,0:16:15.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I've mentioned that here before,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:15.29,0:16:17.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that there's a wonderful book written
Dialogue: 0,0:16:17.28,0:16:18.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,written over a hundred years ago
Dialogue: 0,0:16:18.92,0:16:21.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's called "Erewhon," by Samuel Butler.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:21.37,0:16:24.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And apparently, that really influenced
Dialogue: 0,0:16:24.56,0:16:27.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the great British playwright\NGeorge Bernard Shaw.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:27.99,0:16:29.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It changed the way he looked
Dialogue: 0,0:16:29.59,0:16:31.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at some of these social problems
Dialogue: 0,0:16:31.68,0:16:33.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the reason why it was a very
Dialogue: 0,0:16:33.78,0:16:38.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,effective argument against the way
Dialogue: 0,0:16:38.35,0:16:42.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we treat "criminals," or people who've
Dialogue: 0,0:16:42.23,0:16:46.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,done harm, with punishment,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:46.05,0:16:49.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was that it used the satire.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:49.26,0:16:50.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It envisaged
Dialogue: 0,0:16:50.75,0:16:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a society in which, what we call crime
Dialogue: 0,0:16:55.00,0:16:58.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,today, is looked upon as being a
Dialogue: 0,0:16:58.17,0:17:01.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sickness and therapy, therapy, therapy
Dialogue: 0,0:17:01.86,0:17:05.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the only response to crime.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:05.01,0:17:07.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If somebody steals, they go and see
Dialogue: 0,0:17:07.38,0:17:10.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a doctor.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:10.45,0:17:13.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If somebody rapes, that's
Dialogue: 0,0:17:13.31,0:17:16.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,looked upon as being a sickness.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:16.30,0:17:18.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Punishment is not really looked at at all.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:18.98,0:17:21.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But somehow, a rehabilitation
Dialogue: 0,0:17:21.47,0:17:25.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of trying to work out and remedy
Dialogue: 0,0:17:25.45,0:17:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that glitch in human nature.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:29.00,0:17:33.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, when it came to health matters,
Dialogue: 0,0:17:33.18,0:17:35.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you were sick and ill, that
Dialogue: 0,0:17:35.79,0:17:37.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was because you were careless
Dialogue: 0,0:17:37.79,0:17:41.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you were punished.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:41.36,0:17:43.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Part of that book, a chapter which
Dialogue: 0,0:17:43.62,0:17:46.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I will always remember, was of a
Dialogue: 0,0:17:46.37,0:17:48.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,court scene in which there was a
Dialogue: 0,0:17:48.67,0:17:52.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,poor man who had a cold.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:52.51,0:17:54.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when he had a cold (there's
Dialogue: 0,0:17:54.75,0:17:56.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,many colds going around right now
Dialogue: 0,0:17:56.82,0:17:58.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[directed at audience], there's
Dialogue: 0,0:17:58.34,0:18:00.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a cough already, you'd be in trouble in
Dialogue: 0,0:18:00.29,0:18:02.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this society), because he had a cold
Dialogue: 0,0:18:02.31,0:18:04.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he was in the dock, charged
Dialogue: 0,0:18:04.52,0:18:07.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with being sick.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:07.36,0:18:08.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And because he was
Dialogue: 0,0:18:08.97,0:18:12.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sniffling, he had no defense and
Dialogue: 0,0:18:12.31,0:18:13.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so the judge pronounced him
Dialogue: 0,0:18:13.90,0:18:17.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,guilty of having a cold and he,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:17.68,0:18:20.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before he gave judgment, uh, sentence
Dialogue: 0,0:18:20.22,0:18:21.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sorry, the punishment, he said,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:21.93,0:18:23.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"This is not the first time you
Dialogue: 0,0:18:23.60,0:18:25.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,appeared before me, you were here
Dialogue: 0,0:18:25.32,0:18:28.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,last week or three weeks ago with a cold.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:28.22,0:18:30.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I warned you then,\Nif you don't eat better, take
Dialogue: 0,0:18:30.68,0:18:32.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,better care of your health, let go
Dialogue: 0,0:18:32.67,0:18:35.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of your stress, it's your responsibility
Dialogue: 0,0:18:35.61,0:18:37.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be healthy and you have been
Dialogue: 0,0:18:37.49,0:18:40.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,negligent, and your cold is causing
Dialogue: 0,0:18:40.22,0:18:41.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a danger to other people!
Dialogue: 0,0:18:41.75,0:18:43.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're being heedless, you're not
Dialogue: 0,0:18:43.38,0:18:45.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,caring for others, you're spreading
Dialogue: 0,0:18:45.06,0:18:46.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your germs to other people,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:46.47,0:18:48.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's not appropriate, you should be
Dialogue: 0,0:18:48.72,0:18:50.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,punished: three years in jail for having
Dialogue: 0,0:18:50.97,0:18:56.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a cold, being a repeat offender!"
Dialogue: 0,0:18:56.12,0:18:58.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's some logic to that.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:58.96,0:19:02.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In a sense, you know, if you are sick,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:02.54,0:19:04.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,isn't your responsibility to exercise
Dialogue: 0,0:19:04.97,0:19:09.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and eat well and keep yourself healthy?
Dialogue: 0,0:19:09.91,0:19:13.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if you are sick,\Nyou are a scourge on society.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:13.40,0:19:16.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're robbing it of its resources.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:16.36,0:19:19.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"You heedless scallywag,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:19.82,0:19:22.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reprobate delinquent for always
Dialogue: 0,0:19:22.79,0:19:25.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,having colds."
Dialogue: 0,0:19:25.47,0:19:27.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they were punished.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:27.88,0:19:30.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, obviously, what that really made
Dialogue: 0,0:19:30.08,0:19:32.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very, very clear to me is that the double
Dialogue: 0,0:19:32.54,0:19:34.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,standards which we have.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:34.87,0:19:37.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why is it that when we're sick,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:37.05,0:19:40.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,no one gets punished for being sick.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:40.51,0:19:42.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what's the difference between
Dialogue: 0,0:19:42.26,0:19:44.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some of the behavior of human
Dialogue: 0,0:19:44.17,0:19:48.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,beings which we call criminal.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:48.53,0:19:50.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So when I was asked about what
Dialogue: 0,0:19:50.22,0:19:52.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we think in Buddhism about punishment,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:52.55,0:19:54.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was very much the case that,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:54.89,0:19:57.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah, sometimes it's like a sickness,
Dialogue: 0,0:19:57.07,0:19:58.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you do need quarantine, to be put
Dialogue: 0,0:19:58.96,0:20:00.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,away, so you don't harm other human
Dialogue: 0,0:20:00.87,0:20:03.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,beings, from the time that sickness is
Dialogue: 0,0:20:03.01,0:20:05.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,still strong in you,\Nyou're still a danger to others.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:05.95,0:20:07.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But when you're in quarantine,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:07.54,0:20:10.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's never looked upon as\Nbeing a punishment.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:10.05,0:20:11.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's always looked upon
Dialogue: 0,0:20:11.29,0:20:12.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as being rehabilitating.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:12.51,0:20:14.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To try and take that problem, to work
Dialogue: 0,0:20:14.27,0:20:16.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with it so that it's no longer there.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:16.29,0:20:17.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you stay in quarantine
Dialogue: 0,0:20:17.81,0:20:20.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as long as you are contagious,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:20.24,0:20:22.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a danger to society.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:22.68,0:20:25.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the same way, why don't we look at
Dialogue: 0,0:20:25.52,0:20:27.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that as penal before... to stay as long
Dialogue: 0,0:20:27.96,0:20:29.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as you're a danger to society.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:29.66,0:20:31.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But not looked upon as being a
Dialogue: 0,0:20:31.46,0:20:33.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,punishment, looked upon as being
Dialogue: 0,0:20:33.33,0:20:35.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a problem which needs to be healed.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:35.47,0:20:39.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No punishment, but rehabilitation.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:39.15,0:20:41.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's how I understand Buddhism,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:41.57,0:20:43.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,over many, many years of being a
Dialogue: 0,0:20:43.44,0:20:45.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Buddhist, and also how I understand
Dialogue: 0,0:20:45.25,0:20:48.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a positive way forward.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:48.02,0:20:50.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But why is it that people don't want that,
Dialogue: 0,0:20:50.69,0:20:52.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they want people to be punished for
Dialogue: 0,0:20:52.56,0:20:55.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their way they've hurt us.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:55.77,0:20:57.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think it's very much
Dialogue: 0,0:20:57.50,0:21:00.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we can't just understand
Dialogue: 0,0:21:00.94,0:21:04.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,deeply why it is that people do\Nthese terrible things.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:04.38,0:21:05.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why they make these
Dialogue: 0,0:21:05.89,0:21:08.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mistakes, to have a deeper understanding
Dialogue: 0,0:21:08.59,0:21:10.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and also have a deeper understanding
Dialogue: 0,0:21:10.48,0:21:13.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not just where these crimes, these hurts,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:13.28,0:21:15.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these harms come from, but
Dialogue: 0,0:21:15.30,0:21:18.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how in the future we can lessen the
Dialogue: 0,0:21:18.06,0:21:21.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,chance of harm and hurt.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:21.10,0:21:22.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Being attached to being a victim
Dialogue: 0,0:21:22.87,0:21:27.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,does not help.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:27.21,0:21:29.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes, I just wonder why people
Dialogue: 0,0:21:29.52,0:21:33.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,want punishment of others, when
Dialogue: 0,0:21:33.47,0:21:36.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you're a Christian, you know that God
Dialogue: 0,0:21:36.37,0:21:38.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will punish afterwards, what do you need
Dialogue: 0,0:21:38.86,0:21:40.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to punish for?
Dialogue: 0,0:21:40.39,0:21:42.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you're a Muslim,\NAllah will look after it,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:42.93,0:21:44.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you're a Buddhist, karma
Dialogue: 0,0:21:44.77,0:21:46.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will look after it, and if you
Dialogue: 0,0:21:46.29,0:21:48.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't believe in any religion,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:48.90,0:21:50.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know that person will
Dialogue: 0,0:21:50.18,0:21:52.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have to go into psychotherapy for many,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:52.37,0:21:54.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,many years afterwards.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:54.29,0:21:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whatever it is, no one ever escapes
Dialogue: 0,0:21:57.00,0:22:03.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the problems of their bad behavior.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:03.36,0:22:05.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's also one of those insights which
Dialogue: 0,0:22:05.18,0:22:07.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had from the experience of visiting
Dialogue: 0,0:22:07.04,0:22:09.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,prisons many times in the early
Dialogue: 0,0:22:09.32,0:22:11.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,part of my life here in Western Australia.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:11.85,0:22:13.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Visiting prisons so many
Dialogue: 0,0:22:13.56,0:22:14.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,times and getting to know
Dialogue: 0,0:22:14.96,0:22:17.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some of these people spending
Dialogue: 0,0:22:17.52,0:22:21.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,years in jail, never once did I find a
Dialogue: 0,0:22:21.12,0:22:24.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,prisoner who had no conscience.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:24.76,0:22:26.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They would act as if they had no
Dialogue: 0,0:22:26.68,0:22:28.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,conscience, and think, "Yeah, when I get
Dialogue: 0,0:22:28.97,0:22:31.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,outta here, I'm just going to rob\Nas many houses as I can.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:31.87,0:22:33.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't care about the
Dialogue: 0,0:22:33.33,0:22:35.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,system, I'm just going to bear with this
Dialogue: 0,0:22:35.43,0:22:37.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,until I can get out."
Dialogue: 0,0:22:37.61,0:22:41.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But when I got to know some of\Nthese prisoners, they would
Dialogue: 0,0:22:41.56,0:22:44.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,always, in every case, express just
Dialogue: 0,0:22:44.33,0:22:46.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how bad and terrible they felt about
Dialogue: 0,0:22:46.73,0:22:50.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what they'd done to others.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:50.11,0:22:51.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It wasn't the case, they never felt
Dialogue: 0,0:22:51.97,0:22:54.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,deep inside the hurt which they'd
Dialogue: 0,0:22:54.62,0:22:57.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,given to others, they always
Dialogue: 0,0:22:57.89,0:23:00.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,felt it, it was always remorse there,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:00.41,0:23:02.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just usually it was a tough guy syndrome,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:02.57,0:23:05.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they did not want to express it.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:05.15,0:23:08.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So there is always a punishment comes
Dialogue: 0,0:23:08.55,0:23:09.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:09.77,0:23:11.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If someone has done something
Dialogue: 0,0:23:11.56,0:23:13.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bad to you, they are going to hurt.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:13.90,0:23:16.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This, what we call, the law of karma,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:16.28,0:23:18.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it has to come back to them.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:18.58,0:23:20.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that is not whether you're a Buddhist
Dialogue: 0,0:23:20.59,0:23:23.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or a Christian or whatever, that's a law
Dialogue: 0,0:23:23.20,0:23:25.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like the law of gravity, you don't have
Dialogue: 0,0:23:25.99,0:23:28.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to believe in that, or not believe in it
Dialogue: 0,0:23:28.51,0:23:30.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it happens irrespective of your
Dialogue: 0,0:23:30.37,0:23:31.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,beliefs.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:31.80,0:23:34.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we don't need to punish others.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:34.63,0:23:36.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Instead, we can let the whole
Dialogue: 0,0:23:36.15,0:23:39.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thing go.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:39.58,0:23:41.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And unless we let them go,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:41.40,0:23:44.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then we are a victim for the rest
Dialogue: 0,0:23:44.87,0:23:47.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of our lives.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:47.90,0:23:49.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It doesn't matter who has
Dialogue: 0,0:23:49.42,0:23:52.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,harmed, hurt, abused you.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:52.65,0:23:55.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Until you can let that go, you're always
Dialogue: 0,0:23:55.86,0:24:00.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the victim and you can never be free.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:00.32,0:24:03.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just how we can reach\Nthat point of letting go
Dialogue: 0,0:24:03.98,0:24:07.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that sometimes, just to think
Dialogue: 0,0:24:07.01,0:24:08.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we need to confront
Dialogue: 0,0:24:08.40,0:24:10.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that person who's harmed us
Dialogue: 0,0:24:10.15,0:24:13.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we need to fix the situation ourselves.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:13.40,0:24:14.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We need to be acknowledged,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:14.85,0:24:18.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we need to be heard.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:18.09,0:24:21.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes that cannot be achieved.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:21.09,0:24:25.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If it's not achieved, then what.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:25.66,0:24:27.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes you don't need
Dialogue: 0,0:24:27.58,0:24:29.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be heard,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:29.33,0:24:30.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sometimes you don't need to
Dialogue: 0,0:24:30.92,0:24:32.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,confront the person who's
Dialogue: 0,0:24:32.58,0:24:34.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,harmed you or hurt you.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:34.96,0:24:38.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You are always free and every moment
Dialogue: 0,0:24:38.30,0:24:39.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,independent of others,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:39.67,0:24:42.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,independent of the judicial system,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:42.52,0:24:44.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,independent of where that
Dialogue: 0,0:24:44.76,0:24:46.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,person who harmed or hurt
Dialogue: 0,0:24:46.73,0:24:48.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or abused you is,
Dialogue: 0,0:24:48.14,0:24:50.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're always free
Dialogue: 0,0:24:50.66,0:24:55.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to let go at any time.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:55.05,0:24:56.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These attachments which we carry
Dialogue: 0,0:24:56.68,0:25:00.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,around, we choose to carry them.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:00.61,0:25:02.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We don't have to.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:02.15,0:25:05.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The experience of seeing how
Dialogue: 0,0:25:05.08,0:25:07.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,grief was not a part of the Buddhist
Dialogue: 0,0:25:07.24,0:25:09.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,culture, hundreds of years old
Dialogue: 0,0:25:09.02,0:25:10.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in northeast Thailand,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:10.62,0:25:13.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,taught me that many of the things I thought
Dialogue: 0,0:25:13.42,0:25:15.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were normal, natural, and had
Dialogue: 0,0:25:15.22,0:25:16.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to happen, were not normal,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:16.97,0:25:18.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,natural, had to happen.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:18.68,0:25:21.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just the way we've learned
Dialogue: 0,0:25:21.37,0:25:24.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to deal with the problems of life.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:24.79,0:25:27.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We can relearn them
Dialogue: 0,0:25:27.06,0:25:30.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and do things in a different way.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:30.08,0:25:32.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Someone has harmed and hurt you,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:32.29,0:25:36.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why not let it go pretty quickly.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:36.67,0:25:38.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've often said, and this is
Dialogue: 0,0:25:38.30,0:25:40.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just a start of understanding
Dialogue: 0,0:25:40.60,0:25:42.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how to reconcile.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:42.10,0:25:44.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let go, forgive, let go, move on.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:44.48,0:25:47.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've often said that when someone
Dialogue: 0,0:25:47.60,0:25:50.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,calls you an idiot\Nand you keep thinking,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:50.15,0:25:51.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Why did they call me an idiot,
Dialogue: 0,0:25:51.84,0:25:54.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not an idiot!\NYou should not call me an idiot!"
Dialogue: 0,0:25:54.54,0:25:56.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you've allowed them to
Dialogue: 0,0:25:56.08,0:25:59.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,call you an idiot three more times.\N[laughter]
Dialogue: 0,0:25:59.19,0:26:01.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every time you remember that,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:01.24,0:26:03.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're allowing them to call you
Dialogue: 0,0:26:03.23,0:26:05.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an idiot another time.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:05.83,0:26:07.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So why not, when they call you an
Dialogue: 0,0:26:07.68,0:26:10.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,idiot, you forget it straight away.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:10.11,0:26:13.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then they only call you an idiot once.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:13.41,0:26:15.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're wrong, you know they're wrong,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:15.39,0:26:16.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,end of problem.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:16.67,0:26:18.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think many of you will accept
Dialogue: 0,0:26:18.48,0:26:20.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the wisdom of that, and maybe
Dialogue: 0,0:26:20.36,0:26:21.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you've heard it enough times
Dialogue: 0,0:26:21.70,0:26:23.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you've done that already,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:23.30,0:26:25.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these people call you an idiot,\Nthey call you foolish,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:25.68,0:26:27.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they call you ugly,\Nthey call you stupid,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:27.64,0:26:29.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you just forget it straight away.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:29.80,0:26:31.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or for those of you who don't know
Dialogue: 0,0:26:31.59,0:26:33.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this wonderful saying of Ajahn Chah,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:33.34,0:26:36.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"If they call you a dog,\Nwhat should you do?
Dialogue: 0,0:26:36.17,0:26:39.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Look at your..." [audience - inaudible]\Nbow [laughter]
Dialogue: 0,0:26:39.51,0:26:42.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(AB: very good you got there first,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:42.02,0:26:44.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,excellent) but no,\Nthat's not what Ajahn Chah said,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:44.72,0:26:46.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If someone calls you a dog
Dialogue: 0,0:26:46.80,0:26:48.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you look at your bottom
Dialogue: 0,0:26:48.30,0:26:49.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to see if you got a tail.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:49.70,0:26:51.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you ain't got a tail, you're not a dog,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:51.86,0:26:53.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,end of problem.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:53.72,0:26:55.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Most of the things which people say
Dialogue: 0,0:26:55.44,0:26:56.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about you aren't true
Dialogue: 0,0:26:56.69,0:26:57.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'cause they don't know
Dialogue: 0,0:26:57.96,0:26:59.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who you are or what you're doing,
Dialogue: 0,0:26:59.76,0:27:01.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that's a great way of\Nstopping the problem.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:01.97,0:27:03.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But what a lot of people do,
Dialogue: 0,0:27:03.32,0:27:04.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they keep thinking about it,
Dialogue: 0,0:27:04.68,0:27:06.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,every time you think about it
Dialogue: 0,0:27:06.08,0:27:08.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you allow them to call\Nyou a dog another time.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:08.53,0:27:09.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now that's easy to understand
Dialogue: 0,0:27:09.97,0:27:12.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but what about someone\Nwho’s really hurt you?
Dialogue: 0,0:27:12.28,0:27:14.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Really abused you?
Dialogue: 0,0:27:14.50,0:27:20.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even like sexual abuse as a kid.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:20.07,0:27:21.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is it the case every time
Dialogue: 0,0:27:21.51,0:27:24.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you remember that,
Dialogue: 0,0:27:24.25,0:27:28.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you allow them to abuse you again?
Dialogue: 0,0:27:28.45,0:27:33.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every time you bring that up?
Dialogue: 0,0:27:33.73,0:27:37.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why is it we can't let it go
Dialogue: 0,0:27:37.23,0:27:40.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,straight away?
Dialogue: 0,0:27:40.96,0:27:42.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's hard.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:42.85,0:27:44.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But with an inner strength,
Dialogue: 0,0:27:44.61,0:27:46.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, a strength which is
Dialogue: 0,0:27:46.63,0:27:48.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not coming from will power
Dialogue: 0,0:27:48.07,0:27:49.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but from wisdom power,
Dialogue: 0,0:27:49.85,0:27:51.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from compassion,
Dialogue: 0,0:27:51.31,0:27:53.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why do we allow ourselves
Dialogue: 0,0:27:53.60,0:27:55.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be victims?
Dialogue: 0,0:27:55.60,0:27:58.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To be made victims?
Dialogue: 0,0:27:58.24,0:28:01.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now I'm not just saying that out of theory.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:01.15,0:28:03.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Many, many years ago
Dialogue: 0,0:28:03.17,0:28:06.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there was a disciple,
Dialogue: 0,0:28:06.38,0:28:07.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this was in the time of the
Dialogue: 0,0:28:07.80,0:28:10.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Armadale group, part of the Armadale
Dialogue: 0,0:28:10.91,0:28:13.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,group, who came out to me
Dialogue: 0,0:28:13.17,0:28:15.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(actually one of her friends said
Dialogue: 0,0:28:15.11,0:28:17.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you better talk to her because she's
Dialogue: 0,0:28:17.18,0:28:18.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in big trouble).
Dialogue: 0,0:28:18.48,0:28:19.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what the trouble was,
Dialogue: 0,0:28:19.87,0:28:22.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was she found out her husband
Dialogue: 0,0:28:22.24,0:28:26.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was sexually abusing her two children.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:26.65,0:28:29.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She had missed it, and I told her
Dialogue: 0,0:28:29.38,0:28:31.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why she'd missed it, "because, look,
Dialogue: 0,0:28:31.24,0:28:32.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you love that man."
Dialogue: 0,0:28:32.88,0:28:34.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you love a man,
Dialogue: 0,0:28:34.35,0:28:35.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the signs are there but you are in
Dialogue: 0,0:28:35.98,0:28:38.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,denial because the whole idea that
Dialogue: 0,0:28:38.54,0:28:40.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the man you love is abusing the
Dialogue: 0,0:28:40.88,0:28:43.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,children you love, it's just it's so
Dialogue: 0,0:28:43.71,0:28:45.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hard to reconcile that.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:45.48,0:28:47.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's so hard for the mind to fit
Dialogue: 0,0:28:47.29,0:28:49.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those two together.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:49.32,0:28:51.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So she just denied the signs
Dialogue: 0,0:28:51.81,0:28:53.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of sexual abuse of her children
Dialogue: 0,0:28:53.98,0:28:55.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by her husband.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:55.28,0:28:58.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was found out by the school.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:58.33,0:29:01.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Investigated, it was true.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:01.27,0:29:03.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The guy went to jail.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:03.08,0:29:06.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The marriage was over.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:06.24,0:29:08.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I was counseling her,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:08.16,0:29:10.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,counseling her on these\NBuddhist principles.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:10.42,0:29:13.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She'd been meditating enough,\Nshe understood
Dialogue: 0,0:29:13.12,0:29:16.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the basic idea of karma and letting go
Dialogue: 0,0:29:16.33,0:29:19.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and not being a victim
Dialogue: 0,0:29:19.29,0:29:22.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and she took it on board.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:22.22,0:29:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She said she could never live
Dialogue: 0,0:29:24.00,0:29:25.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with that man or love him again,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:25.88,0:29:27.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but she's not going to allow him
Dialogue: 0,0:29:27.64,0:29:30.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to make her suffer anymore.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:30.18,0:29:31.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She completely let go.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:31.71,0:29:33.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wished him well, and eventually
Dialogue: 0,0:29:33.87,0:29:35.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,moved to the UK.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:35.71,0:29:37.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I kept in contact with her
Dialogue: 0,0:29:37.46,0:29:41.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and her kids, but before she left
Dialogue: 0,0:29:41.57,0:29:43.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was compulsory at that time,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:43.69,0:29:46.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,probably still is, for her to go
Dialogue: 0,0:29:46.01,0:29:51.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for counseling and the kids too.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:51.23,0:29:53.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was quite amused that after
Dialogue: 0,0:29:53.61,0:29:55.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going to counseling
Dialogue: 0,0:29:55.59,0:29:57.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for about four/five weeks
Dialogue: 0,0:29:57.91,0:29:59.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she came to complain again.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:59.73,0:30:01.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"This counselor will not
Dialogue: 0,0:30:01.87,0:30:04.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,understand I've moved on."
Dialogue: 0,0:30:04.36,0:30:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the counselor was still saying,\N"You hate your husband don't you?"
Dialogue: 0,0:30:08.00,0:30:10.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"No, I don't hate my husband,\NI've let him go." [laughter]
Dialogue: 0,0:30:10.51,0:30:12.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Counselor: "You hate him don't you?"
Dialogue: 0,0:30:12.25,0:30:13.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Woman: "No, no I don't!"
Dialogue: 0,0:30:13.47,0:30:16.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And she came because she\Ncould not be free of her counselor
Dialogue: 0,0:30:16.43,0:30:17.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[audience laughter]
Dialogue: 0,0:30:17.91,0:30:20.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,until she admitted how much she
Dialogue: 0,0:30:20.32,0:30:23.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hated and wanted to kill her husband.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:23.34,0:30:26.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so I had to write this letter
Dialogue: 0,0:30:26.05,0:30:27.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the counselor about Buddhist
Dialogue: 0,0:30:27.92,0:30:29.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Psychology and how Buddhists
Dialogue: 0,0:30:29.64,0:30:32.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,relate to these things,\Nto actually to free her.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:32.10,0:30:35.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I didn't write this letter easily
Dialogue: 0,0:30:35.60,0:30:37.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because if I'd got it wrong,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:37.34,0:30:39.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than she'd be suffering
Dialogue: 0,0:30:39.10,0:30:40.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,later on down the track.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:40.66,0:30:42.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But because I knew her,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:42.19,0:30:43.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I'd talked with her,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:43.64,0:30:46.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I'd counseled her myself,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:46.11,0:30:48.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah, I knew that she had moved on.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:48.18,0:30:49.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She did not have the anger,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:49.63,0:30:51.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she didn't go through this process
Dialogue: 0,0:30:51.32,0:30:53.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of victimhood which is expected
Dialogue: 0,0:30:53.58,0:30:56.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in our modern culture.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:56.08,0:30:58.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She moved through fast
Dialogue: 0,0:30:58.09,0:31:00.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so gained her freedom fast.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:00.75,0:31:04.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I really salute her,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:04.28,0:31:05.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because what she did
Dialogue: 0,0:31:05.96,0:31:09.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by moving from that incredible hurt,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:09.51,0:31:11.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a whole life being devastated,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:11.38,0:31:14.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she moved so quickly through that --
Dialogue: 0,0:31:14.48,0:31:17.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not into forgetfulness,\Nnot into ignorance, 'that didn't happen,'
Dialogue: 0,0:31:17.97,0:31:19.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not into denial -- but, yeah that
Dialogue: 0,0:31:19.69,0:31:22.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,happened, that was\Nan awful thing to happen
Dialogue: 0,0:31:22.09,0:31:23.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I'm not going to allow that to
Dialogue: 0,0:31:23.85,0:31:27.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hurt and harm me any more.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:27.81,0:31:30.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because she moved into that freedom,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:30.85,0:31:34.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she took her two kids\Nwith her very quickly.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:34.74,0:31:36.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They too followed their mother's lead,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:36.58,0:31:40.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were not going to be victims
Dialogue: 0,0:31:40.65,0:31:42.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and moved on.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:42.79,0:31:44.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are other ways of dealing with
Dialogue: 0,0:31:44.74,0:31:48.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these terrible abuses.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:48.41,0:31:50.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the other personal example
Dialogue: 0,0:31:50.12,0:31:53.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have, again, is the story of my own
Dialogue: 0,0:31:53.25,0:31:58.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,father who told me that he was,
Dialogue: 0,0:31:58.50,0:32:00.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before the Second World War,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:00.03,0:32:01.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,born and brought up in Liverpool
Dialogue: 0,0:32:01.83,0:32:04.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a very, very poor family
Dialogue: 0,0:32:04.06,0:32:06.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as most people were in those days.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:06.81,0:32:09.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And his father was a plumber
Dialogue: 0,0:32:09.31,0:32:12.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who would go to work,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:12.63,0:32:14.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before he'd come home
Dialogue: 0,0:32:14.23,0:32:17.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,spend most of his time in the pub,\Nspending the money
Dialogue: 0,0:32:17.86,0:32:20.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,giving only a pittance to my
Dialogue: 0,0:32:20.60,0:32:22.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,paternal grandmother
Dialogue: 0,0:32:22.31,0:32:24.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to look after the kids.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:24.70,0:32:27.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As soon as he'd come home drunk,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:27.01,0:32:28.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,get out his belt and whip
Dialogue: 0,0:32:28.82,0:32:30.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,any kid who came in his path
Dialogue: 0,0:32:30.33,0:32:32.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for no reason or another and then
Dialogue: 0,0:32:32.08,0:32:36.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,set on his wife.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:36.06,0:32:38.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which is why my father,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:38.30,0:32:39.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in my presence, he said,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:39.98,0:32:41.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Look, I'm sorry son.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:41.33,0:32:44.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Your grandfather was a bastard."
Dialogue: 0,0:32:44.16,0:32:45.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he hated him.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:45.91,0:32:47.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the other thing he told me,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:47.98,0:32:50.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was that whenever he was under
Dialogue: 0,0:32:50.24,0:32:54.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that belt himself, being beaten
Dialogue: 0,0:32:54.36,0:32:56.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for no reason at all, except his father
Dialogue: 0,0:32:56.51,0:32:57.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was drunk.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:57.74,0:32:59.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He made a resolution,
Dialogue: 0,0:32:59.95,0:33:01.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he told me he determined
Dialogue: 0,0:33:01.58,0:33:04.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if ever he gets through this and
Dialogue: 0,0:33:04.13,0:33:07.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has kids, he will never hit them.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:07.34,0:33:10.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's what happened.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:10.94,0:33:13.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's no way that my father could hit us.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:13.51,0:33:15.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My mother had to be the disciplinarian.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:15.79,0:33:17.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And even she didn't do it
Dialogue: 0,0:33:17.07,0:33:18.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very well.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:18.79,0:33:21.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he became this incredibly
Dialogue: 0,0:33:21.01,0:33:22.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,loving father.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:22.37,0:33:25.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was a person who,\Nin that story I tell you
Dialogue: 0,0:33:25.05,0:33:28.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about taking me down a side street
Dialogue: 0,0:33:28.36,0:33:30.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Acton in London, telling me,
Dialogue: 0,0:33:30.55,0:33:32.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Look, whatever you do in your life son,
Dialogue: 0,0:33:32.36,0:33:34.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the door of my house will always
Dialogue: 0,0:33:34.23,0:33:35.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be open to you."
Dialogue: 0,0:33:35.54,0:33:36.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I later interpreted as
Dialogue: 0,0:33:36.87,0:33:38.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being, "whatever you do in your life,
Dialogue: 0,0:33:38.69,0:33:40.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wherever you go, the door of my
Dialogue: 0,0:33:40.64,0:33:42.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,heart will be open to you."
Dialogue: 0,0:33:42.57,0:33:45.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was unconditional love.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:45.09,0:33:47.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that was a man who
Dialogue: 0,0:33:47.20,0:33:50.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,suffered tremendous physical
Dialogue: 0,0:33:50.49,0:33:53.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,abuse as a child.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:53.41,0:33:56.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is other ways of\Ndealing with these things.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:56.70,0:34:00.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I look at that as a way forward.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:00.69,0:34:02.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whereas if we carry that abuse around
Dialogue: 0,0:34:02.89,0:34:05.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with us, we become victims.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:05.35,0:34:07.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are stopping ourselves being
Dialogue: 0,0:34:07.30,0:34:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,happy.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:10.00,0:34:12.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But we don't have to.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:12.07,0:34:13.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which is, if it happens great,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:13.76,0:34:15.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but there has to come a time,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:15.74,0:34:18.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some situation where we let go.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:18.54,0:34:20.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes that letting go
Dialogue: 0,0:34:20.20,0:34:22.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,does happen when we face the
Dialogue: 0,0:34:22.70,0:34:26.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,person who has been hurting us,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:26.08,0:34:27.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,creating our problem.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:27.69,0:34:30.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We face them and we\Nhear them acknowledging,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:30.41,0:34:31.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sometimes there is a letting go
Dialogue: 0,0:34:31.96,0:34:33.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:33.26,0:34:36.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe that might be the best way.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:36.25,0:34:37.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But sometimes that way isn't
Dialogue: 0,0:34:37.69,0:34:39.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there for us.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:39.31,0:34:40.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If it's not there for us
Dialogue: 0,0:34:40.76,0:34:45.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then we can do it ourselves.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:45.67,0:34:47.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We can move on by letting go of
Dialogue: 0,0:34:47.62,0:34:51.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this burden.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:51.29,0:34:55.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When we say that,\N"Is there happiness in this world?"
Dialogue: 0,0:34:55.93,0:34:57.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Unless we drop those attachments
Dialogue: 0,0:34:57.81,0:34:59.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the pain of our lives,
Dialogue: 0,0:34:59.35,0:35:02.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the disappointments,\Nto what went wrong,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:02.61,0:35:05.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the hurt and the harm,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:05.18,0:35:08.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if we can't drop those attachments
Dialogue: 0,0:35:08.95,0:35:13.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how on earth can we ever be free?
Dialogue: 0,0:35:13.85,0:35:15.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At this conference this morning,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:15.54,0:35:17.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there was a very impressive
Dialogue: 0,0:35:17.23,0:35:18.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,young Aboriginal leader.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:18.76,0:35:21.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I forget her name, Norelle\Nwas her first name,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:21.95,0:35:24.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she was actually a basketball star or
Dialogue: 0,0:35:24.03,0:35:27.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something, but she was saying
Dialogue: 0,0:35:27.67,0:35:29.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(it's a very interesting thing),
Dialogue: 0,0:35:29.86,0:35:31.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so... if our Prime Minister
Dialogue: 0,0:35:31.77,0:35:34.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John Howard says sorry...
Dialogue: 0,0:35:34.64,0:35:37.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so then what.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:37.24,0:35:41.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She was telling her students,\Nshe teaches at ?Contell,
Dialogue: 0,0:35:41.64,0:35:43.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have you got to wait until
Dialogue: 0,0:35:43.86,0:35:46.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the government says sorry before we can
Dialogue: 0,0:35:46.13,0:35:48.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reconcile and move forward?
Dialogue: 0,0:35:48.85,0:35:53.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why leave them that power?
Dialogue: 0,0:35:53.18,0:35:54.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why don't we do it now?
Dialogue: 0,0:35:54.95,0:35:57.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I thought that was a very
Dialogue: 0,0:35:57.64,0:35:59.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,inspiring and wonderful way
Dialogue: 0,0:35:59.22,0:36:01.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of taking responsibility
Dialogue: 0,0:36:01.84,0:36:03.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for ourselves
Dialogue: 0,0:36:03.66,0:36:07.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for our moving out of our victimhood.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:07.02,0:36:08.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rather than waiting for someone
Dialogue: 0,0:36:08.78,0:36:10.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,else to do it for us, whether it's
Dialogue: 0,0:36:10.73,0:36:12.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the government, whether it's the
Dialogue: 0,0:36:12.71,0:36:14.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,courts, whether it's karma or
Dialogue: 0,0:36:14.50,0:36:15.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whatever.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:15.76,0:36:17.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why can't we take
Dialogue: 0,0:36:17.35,0:36:21.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,responsibility for being free?
Dialogue: 0,0:36:21.39,0:36:24.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Say, "I forgive.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:24.22,0:36:26.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I let go.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:26.17,0:36:27.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I will move on.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:27.81,0:36:30.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm never going to allow
Dialogue: 0,0:36:30.55,0:36:33.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anyone else ever again
Dialogue: 0,0:36:33.88,0:36:36.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to control my happiness."
Dialogue: 0,0:36:36.68,0:36:38.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You've heard me say that before.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:38.29,0:36:39.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a very simple thing
Dialogue: 0,0:36:39.96,0:36:42.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to say: don't allow others to control
Dialogue: 0,0:36:42.90,0:36:44.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your happiness.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:44.69,0:36:48.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a very powerful thing to say.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:48.23,0:36:51.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's very profound and you can see
Dialogue: 0,0:36:51.50,0:36:55.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just how much of our lives
Dialogue: 0,0:36:55.21,0:36:57.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is controlled by others.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:57.95,0:37:00.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Part of Buddhism, I'd say,
Dialogue: 0,0:37:00.57,0:37:02.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is always empowering,
Dialogue: 0,0:37:02.94,0:37:04.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,empowering you to take control
Dialogue: 0,0:37:04.61,0:37:06.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of your happiness.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:06.97,0:37:09.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it can be done.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:09.18,0:37:11.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Too often we look for solutions
Dialogue: 0,0:37:11.73,0:37:14.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in controlling others.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:14.48,0:37:18.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or the problem lies with my\Nabusers, the problem lies with
Dialogue: 0,0:37:18.09,0:37:20.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the government, the problem lies\Nsomewhere else, the problem
Dialogue: 0,0:37:20.86,0:37:22.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lies with my husband, the problem
Dialogue: 0,0:37:22.74,0:37:24.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lies with my cancer, the problem
Dialogue: 0,0:37:24.88,0:37:29.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lies with my loved one who's just died.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:29.12,0:37:31.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you want to, sort of, try fix
Dialogue: 0,0:37:31.05,0:37:32.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,up the world by fixing
Dialogue: 0,0:37:32.61,0:37:34.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,up all those people around you
Dialogue: 0,0:37:34.79,0:37:37.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who've hurt you or harmed you,
Dialogue: 0,0:37:37.25,0:37:39.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,perhaps you'll die before that
Dialogue: 0,0:37:39.01,0:37:41.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,problem is solved.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:41.44,0:37:43.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Perhaps if you get reborn many, many times
Dialogue: 0,0:37:43.93,0:37:45.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you'll never find that freedom,
Dialogue: 0,0:37:45.87,0:37:48.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that happiness, that peace.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:48.17,0:37:50.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Fortunately, you don't have to
Dialogue: 0,0:37:50.11,0:37:54.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,go that path.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:54.77,0:37:56.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's one beautiful message of
Dialogue: 0,0:37:56.88,0:37:59.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Buddha, you cannot
Dialogue: 0,0:37:59.23,0:38:01.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really change this world
Dialogue: 0,0:38:01.71,0:38:03.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but you sure can change
Dialogue: 0,0:38:03.46,0:38:06.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your attitude towards it.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:06.88,0:38:08.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The abuse which you've had in the past,
Dialogue: 0,0:38:08.76,0:38:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can't change that.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:11.00,0:38:12.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The pain, the difficulty, the loss,
Dialogue: 0,0:38:12.86,0:38:14.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the person who's just died,
Dialogue: 0,0:38:14.37,0:38:17.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can't bring them back again.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:17.64,0:38:20.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's obvious,
Dialogue: 0,0:38:20.09,0:38:23.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sometimes obvious, but we
Dialogue: 0,0:38:23.07,0:38:26.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,still think that way.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:26.40,0:38:28.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We can't undo the abuse.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:28.99,0:38:32.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We can't get back that youth
Dialogue: 0,0:38:32.43,0:38:35.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which we may have lost.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:35.03,0:38:37.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We can't undo things.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:37.35,0:38:40.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We can't change the world or the past.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:40.75,0:38:43.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But what we can do\Nis change our attitude
Dialogue: 0,0:38:43.64,0:38:45.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in this present moment.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:45.27,0:38:48.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's that attitude change which is
Dialogue: 0,0:38:48.23,0:38:50.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the key, I've always found,
Dialogue: 0,0:38:50.70,0:38:53.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to finding freedom and happiness.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:53.80,0:38:57.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To find happiness and freedom
Dialogue: 0,0:38:57.26,0:38:59.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in our world, rather than
Dialogue: 0,0:38:59.90,0:39:02.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,changing the world first so that
Dialogue: 0,0:39:02.05,0:39:03.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some time in the future we can
Dialogue: 0,0:39:03.78,0:39:05.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be free, that we can be happy,
Dialogue: 0,0:39:05.77,0:39:07.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we can be at peace.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:07.87,0:39:09.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's not a cop-out,
Dialogue: 0,0:39:09.25,0:39:10.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because sometimes people say,
Dialogue: 0,0:39:10.97,0:39:12.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Well, if you don't do anything
Dialogue: 0,0:39:12.69,0:39:16.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there'll be more abuse, more
Dialogue: 0,0:39:16.01,0:39:18.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cheating, more stupid governments
Dialogue: 0,0:39:18.73,0:39:21.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more wars, more child abuse,
Dialogue: 0,0:39:21.79,0:39:23.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more crime."
Dialogue: 0,0:39:23.97,0:39:25.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the psychology
Dialogue: 0,0:39:25.60,0:39:28.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which I know, that the more time
Dialogue: 0,0:39:28.38,0:39:30.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have blame, the more time you
Dialogue: 0,0:39:30.13,0:39:31.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have punishment, the more time
Dialogue: 0,0:39:31.98,0:39:34.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you exert revenge, that it makes
Dialogue: 0,0:39:34.83,0:39:36.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the whole problem worse and
Dialogue: 0,0:39:36.25,0:39:38.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,worse and worse and worse.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:38.12,0:39:40.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The more people you lock in jail
Dialogue: 0,0:39:40.80,0:39:42.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the more criminals we have
Dialogue: 0,0:39:42.99,0:39:45.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for our future.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:45.12,0:39:47.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The more you punish,
Dialogue: 0,0:39:47.14,0:39:51.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the more people have resentment.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:51.85,0:39:54.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The quicker you can forgive,
Dialogue: 0,0:39:54.98,0:39:56.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the quicker there can be
Dialogue: 0,0:39:56.50,0:39:58.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rehabilitation.
Dialogue: 0,0:39:58.44,0:40:01.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not just for the victims,
Dialogue: 0,0:40:01.27,0:40:05.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the people who
Dialogue: 0,0:40:05.19,0:40:09.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,did those terrible things.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:09.62,0:40:12.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some few years ago, I should've
Dialogue: 0,0:40:12.71,0:40:14.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kept this article because there was
Dialogue: 0,0:40:14.65,0:40:18.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a brilliant article, it was concerning
Dialogue: 0,0:40:18.23,0:40:19.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the killers of Jamie Bulger,
Dialogue: 0,0:40:19.72,0:40:21.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(whatever his name was)
Dialogue: 0,0:40:21.40,0:40:24.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this young -- was it two or three
Dialogue: 0,0:40:24.16,0:40:26.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,year old -- who was abducted in
Dialogue: 0,0:40:26.17,0:40:28.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the shopping center in Liverpool
Dialogue: 0,0:40:28.49,0:40:30.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tortured and killed on the
Dialogue: 0,0:40:30.11,0:40:32.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,railway track by some, was it, eight or
Dialogue: 0,0:40:32.36,0:40:36.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nine year old children.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:36.43,0:40:39.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the whole culture of England
Dialogue: 0,0:40:39.47,0:40:41.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the time especially driven by the
Dialogue: 0,0:40:41.92,0:40:46.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tabloid press, was wanting the blood
Dialogue: 0,0:40:46.02,0:40:48.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of those two killers even though
Dialogue: 0,0:40:48.30,0:40:50.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they were very, very young and
Dialogue: 0,0:40:50.45,0:40:52.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they'd done a terrible terrible thing.
Dialogue: 0,0:40:52.36,0:40:54.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To take the life of a two year old,
Dialogue: 0,0:40:54.10,0:40:56.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's not just one person's death
Dialogue: 0,0:40:56.09,0:40:58.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's all the tears and the anxiety
Dialogue: 0,0:40:58.16,0:41:02.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the stress and the devastation
Dialogue: 0,0:41:02.26,0:41:04.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of all of the people who knew
Dialogue: 0,0:41:04.29,0:41:08.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that child, let alone the parents.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:08.31,0:41:10.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But what I never knew at the time
Dialogue: 0,0:41:10.65,0:41:14.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was pointed out in this article
Dialogue: 0,0:41:14.02,0:41:16.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was that at about the same time
Dialogue: 0,0:41:16.62,0:41:19.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a similar event happened in Norway
Dialogue: 0,0:41:19.87,0:41:23.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the town of Trondheim, north of
Dialogue: 0,0:41:23.50,0:41:26.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oslo where I think, two boys
Dialogue: 0,0:41:26.57,0:41:30.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lured (I think) a girl into the snowfields,
Dialogue: 0,0:41:30.54,0:41:35.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and had similarly killed her.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:35.29,0:41:38.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the similarities between the crimes
Dialogue: 0,0:41:38.56,0:41:40.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were very close.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:40.88,0:41:42.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But what was very dissimilar was
Dialogue: 0,0:41:42.56,0:41:44.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the way those two societies
Dialogue: 0,0:41:44.43,0:41:46.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dealt with the problem.
Dialogue: 0,0:41:46.32,0:41:48.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As many of you know,
Dialogue: 0,0:41:48.43,0:41:50.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Jamie Bulger case, those two
Dialogue: 0,0:41:50.07,0:41:52.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kids were put into some
Dialogue: 0,0:41:52.33,0:41:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,detention center,
Dialogue: 0,0:41:55.00,0:41:56.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the tabloid press
Dialogue: 0,0:41:56.96,0:41:58.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just wanted them to be really
Dialogue: 0,0:41:58.62,0:42:00.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,punished hard and the parents
Dialogue: 0,0:42:00.81,0:42:02.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were just waiting for them to
Dialogue: 0,0:42:02.11,0:42:05.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be released so they could kill them.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:05.59,0:42:08.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And even the public did not\Nwant them to be released.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:08.87,0:42:11.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I read in the newspapers\Nthere was some idea of
Dialogue: 0,0:42:11.36,0:42:13.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sending them to Australia where they
Dialogue: 0,0:42:13.14,0:42:14.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wouldn't be known, new identities
Dialogue: 0,0:42:14.77,0:42:16.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so they could live their life
Dialogue: 0,0:42:16.26,0:42:18.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the British public was saying, "No
Dialogue: 0,0:42:18.10,0:42:20.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they don't deserve any freedom."
Dialogue: 0,0:42:20.33,0:42:22.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what I read.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:22.14,0:42:24.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With those other two kids
Dialogue: 0,0:42:24.95,0:42:27.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the following day after they were caught
Dialogue: 0,0:42:27.19,0:42:31.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they both went to school
Dialogue: 0,0:42:31.46,0:42:35.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,accompanied by psychiatrists
Dialogue: 0,0:42:35.31,0:42:38.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a social worker.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:38.78,0:42:41.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They were not put into any
Dialogue: 0,0:42:41.32,0:42:45.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,punitive institution.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:45.38,0:42:49.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Very, very soon, the mother and father
Dialogue: 0,0:42:49.08,0:42:52.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the child who died came to a closure,
Dialogue: 0,0:42:52.78,0:42:55.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,came to forgiveness and moved
Dialogue: 0,0:42:55.96,0:42:57.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on in their life.
Dialogue: 0,0:42:57.98,0:42:59.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whereas the parents
Dialogue: 0,0:42:59.46,0:43:03.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Jamie Bulger never moved\Non as far as I know.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:03.01,0:43:04.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The whole town of Trondheim
Dialogue: 0,0:43:04.94,0:43:08.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,came to a closure.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:08.53,0:43:10.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They realized a terrible act,
Dialogue: 0,0:43:10.64,0:43:12.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the only way to move forward
Dialogue: 0,0:43:12.90,0:43:18.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is not to wish harm on the killers.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:18.42,0:43:21.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So many years later, one of the killers
Dialogue: 0,0:43:21.81,0:43:24.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of that (I think it was a) little girl
Dialogue: 0,0:43:24.55,0:43:27.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Trondheim is perfectly well adjusted
Dialogue: 0,0:43:27.61,0:43:29.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,having a successful life
Dialogue: 0,0:43:29.16,0:43:31.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,completed the education,
Dialogue: 0,0:43:31.85,0:43:33.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had really moved on, and so did the
Dialogue: 0,0:43:33.85,0:43:35.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,family and the rest of town.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:35.86,0:43:37.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's one of the killers still has
Dialogue: 0,0:43:37.60,0:43:39.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,social problems and some psychological
Dialogue: 0,0:43:39.74,0:43:42.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,problems, but nowhere near like
Dialogue: 0,0:43:42.54,0:43:44.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the pain which was spread around
Dialogue: 0,0:43:44.85,0:43:49.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,England because of the Jamie Bulger case.
Dialogue: 0,0:43:49.33,0:43:53.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To see those two separate accounts
Dialogue: 0,0:43:53.48,0:43:58.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of a similar tragedy, one where there were
Dialogue: 0,0:43:58.16,0:44:00.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,many victims and their victimhood
Dialogue: 0,0:44:00.29,0:44:04.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was, I dare to say, cherished
Dialogue: 0,0:44:04.33,0:44:07.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and attached to and made much of.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:07.71,0:44:09.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the other one, where
Dialogue: 0,0:44:09.33,0:44:15.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rehabilitation was the main aim and goal,
Dialogue: 0,0:44:15.75,0:44:18.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to see the effects of those two cases
Dialogue: 0,0:44:18.88,0:44:21.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I sure wish I'd lived in Norway
Dialogue: 0,0:44:21.58,0:44:23.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than in England.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:23.98,0:44:25.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was the way forward,
Dialogue: 0,0:44:25.41,0:44:27.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the way that everyone got healed,
Dialogue: 0,0:44:27.40,0:44:29.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the way where there
Dialogue: 0,0:44:29.32,0:44:31.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was less pain, less suffering.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:31.42,0:44:34.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, when we are not happy when we are
Dialogue: 0,0:44:34.55,0:44:40.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,suffering, when we are not free.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:40.38,0:44:42.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why is it?
Dialogue: 0,0:44:42.14,0:44:44.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's because we don't know how to
Dialogue: 0,0:44:44.78,0:44:46.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,move on from the pains
Dialogue: 0,0:44:46.52,0:44:49.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and difficulties and stresses of life.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:49.17,0:44:51.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now these are big pains,
Dialogue: 0,0:44:51.79,0:44:54.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,big problems, big sufferings.
Dialogue: 0,0:44:54.83,0:44:56.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You probably haven't had to
Dialogue: 0,0:44:56.14,0:44:59.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,experience that degree of
Dialogue: 0,0:44:59.34,0:45:01.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,suffering, but if those people
Dialogue: 0,0:45:01.99,0:45:04.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can move on and find freedom,
Dialogue: 0,0:45:04.69,0:45:07.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why can't we?
Dialogue: 0,0:45:07.39,0:45:09.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of the great causes
Dialogue: 0,0:45:09.66,0:45:11.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for happiness
Dialogue: 0,0:45:11.11,0:45:14.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the ability to forgive,
Dialogue: 0,0:45:14.60,0:45:18.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to let go, to move on.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:18.36,0:45:20.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It causes happiness for
Dialogue: 0,0:45:20.72,0:45:22.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the offenders, (I don't mean
Dialogue: 0,0:45:22.92,0:45:24.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they got away with it,
Dialogue: 0,0:45:24.82,0:45:26.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,no one gets away with anything
Dialogue: 0,0:45:26.41,0:45:28.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in this world) but it means that
Dialogue: 0,0:45:28.95,0:45:30.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they got away forward,
Dialogue: 0,0:45:30.58,0:45:33.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and certainly a way forward
Dialogue: 0,0:45:33.01,0:45:34.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for those people we call
Dialogue: 0,0:45:34.51,0:45:37.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the victims.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:37.21,0:45:40.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have more freedom and happiness.
Dialogue: 0,0:45:40.81,0:45:44.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which is why I keep\Ntelling -- why is it that we
Dialogue: 0,0:45:44.25,0:45:46.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,carry around the shit of the past,
Dialogue: 0,0:45:46.14,0:45:47.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we don't carry the eggs,
Dialogue: 0,0:45:47.55,0:45:49.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in that story of the two chicken
Dialogue: 0,0:45:49.21,0:45:50.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,farmers (which I won't repeat,
Dialogue: 0,0:45:50.69,0:45:52.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I think I tell that every
Dialogue: 0,0:45:52.40,0:45:53.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,couple of weeks here).
Dialogue: 0,0:45:53.76,0:45:55.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's an interesting thing,
Dialogue: 0,0:45:55.95,0:45:58.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why is it that our nature
Dialogue: 0,0:45:58.65,0:46:01.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,always to look at the past
Dialogue: 0,0:46:01.01,0:46:03.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and collect the pain, to go to the
Dialogue: 0,0:46:03.18,0:46:05.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,movies and once a week
Dialogue: 0,0:46:05.60,0:46:07.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to look, to be worried by
Dialogue: 0,0:46:07.06,0:46:09.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,watching too many soap operas.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:09.06,0:46:11.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If people haven't got enough worries
Dialogue: 0,0:46:11.29,0:46:13.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in their life, they create more
Dialogue: 0,0:46:13.19,0:46:14.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,worries by watching what's happening
Dialogue: 0,0:46:14.95,0:46:17.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Neighbors, by worrying who's
Dialogue: 0,0:46:17.72,0:46:19.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going to win the cricket
Dialogue: 0,0:46:19.11,0:46:22.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or who's going to win the soccer\Nor who's going to win the footie
Dialogue: 0,0:46:22.31,0:46:25.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and people love the nail-biting finishes.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:25.17,0:46:27.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or if they don't like those
Dialogue: 0,0:46:27.24,0:46:28.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they go to these extreme
Dialogue: 0,0:46:28.82,0:46:31.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sports and sometimes,
Dialogue: 0,0:46:31.49,0:46:33.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I remember being in the airport
Dialogue: 0,0:46:33.16,0:46:34.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Bangkok, and I saw on the
Dialogue: 0,0:46:34.93,0:46:36.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,big TV screen there, some of these
Dialogue: 0,0:46:36.58,0:46:39.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,extreme sports people were doing.
Dialogue: 0,0:46:39.09,0:46:42.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I remember seeing... they were
Dialogue: 0,0:46:42.14,0:46:46.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doing these motorbike races on ice!
Dialogue: 0,0:46:46.98,0:46:49.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's crazy!
Dialogue: 0,0:46:49.59,0:46:50.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What idiot would actually
Dialogue: 0,0:46:50.88,0:46:54.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,race each other on these ice tracks
Dialogue: 0,0:46:54.23,0:46:55.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and sure enough, one person
Dialogue: 0,0:46:55.55,0:46:56.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,came off the bike (they had to
Dialogue: 0,0:46:56.99,0:46:58.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have spikes on the wheels)
Dialogue: 0,0:46:58.23,0:47:00.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and got spiked.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:00.19,0:47:03.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whoa, what do they do things like that for?
Dialogue: 0,0:47:03.12,0:47:06.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why do people do that?
Dialogue: 0,0:47:06.30,0:47:09.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because people like to suffer.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:09.03,0:47:11.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why they like to suffer,
Dialogue: 0,0:47:11.48,0:47:13.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they like the thrill, the excitement
Dialogue: 0,0:47:13.43,0:47:18.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there is delight in suffering.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:18.61,0:47:20.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Be careful.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:20.70,0:47:22.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you delight in suffering
Dialogue: 0,0:47:22.99,0:47:24.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's no way you can ever
Dialogue: 0,0:47:24.74,0:47:26.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be happy.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:26.45,0:47:29.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you attach to being the victim,
Dialogue: 0,0:47:29.62,0:47:32.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you just want the thrill
Dialogue: 0,0:47:32.56,0:47:34.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of being hurt, or being on the edge
Dialogue: 0,0:47:34.83,0:47:37.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of being hurt, however can
Dialogue: 0,0:47:37.57,0:47:40.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you be free?
Dialogue: 0,0:47:40.77,0:47:42.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, one of the ways
Dialogue: 0,0:47:42.04,0:47:44.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of happiness in this world
Dialogue: 0,0:47:44.63,0:47:48.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is able to notice why one can't
Dialogue: 0,0:47:48.56,0:47:50.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,detach from that which is
Dialogue: 0,0:47:50.95,0:47:52.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,genuinely painful and difficult to
Dialogue: 0,0:47:52.73,0:47:54.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bear with.
Dialogue: 0,0:47:54.34,0:47:57.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why do we become the victim?
Dialogue: 0,0:47:57.92,0:48:00.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why do we become the sad one?
Dialogue: 0,0:48:00.34,0:48:04.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why do sometimes we become the sick person?
Dialogue: 0,0:48:04.52,0:48:06.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is interesting, in some monasteries
Dialogue: 0,0:48:06.53,0:48:08.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've been in, you see people become
Dialogue: 0,0:48:08.60,0:48:10.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sick and sick and sick and sick,
Dialogue: 0,0:48:10.97,0:48:12.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a lot of monks say it's because
Dialogue: 0,0:48:12.99,0:48:14.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they want to leave, they want to
Dialogue: 0,0:48:14.62,0:48:16.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,disrobe, that's the only way they
Dialogue: 0,0:48:16.39,0:48:17.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know how of doing it.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:17.67,0:48:19.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They actually become attached
Dialogue: 0,0:48:19.17,0:48:20.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to being the sick one
Dialogue: 0,0:48:20.86,0:48:23.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's their persona.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:23.76,0:48:25.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's called ego attachment.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:25.70,0:48:29.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It creates a sense of self.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:29.23,0:48:31.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is one of the things the Buddha
Dialogue: 0,0:48:31.40,0:48:33.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kept on pointing to.
Dialogue: 0,0:48:33.00,0:48:35.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who do you think you are?
Dialogue: 0,0:48:35.60,0:48:39.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What do you take as your self?
Dialogue: 0,0:48:39.42,0:48:40.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is your ego?
Dialogue: 0,0:48:40.85,0:48:43.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you had wrote a list of who you
Dialogue: 0,0:48:43.62,0:48:47.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were, what your attributes were,
Dialogue: 0,0:48:47.23,0:48:48.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not in theory, but in practice
Dialogue: 0,0:48:48.87,0:48:52.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you wrote them down
Dialogue: 0,0:48:52.52,0:48:54.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how many of those things would be
Dialogue: 0,0:48:54.51,0:48:56.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the angry person, the victim, the
Dialogue: 0,0:48:56.50,0:48:57.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,person who was abused,
Dialogue: 0,0:48:57.89,0:48:59.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the person who was divorced,
Dialogue: 0,0:48:59.25,0:49:01.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the person who was sick,
Dialogue: 0,0:49:01.60,0:49:05.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the person who's had the mastectomy?
Dialogue: 0,0:49:05.30,0:49:08.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How many of you take that
Dialogue: 0,0:49:08.08,0:49:10.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be your self?
Dialogue: 0,0:49:10.13,0:49:11.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's a problem there,
Dialogue: 0,0:49:11.60,0:49:13.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because the Buddha noticed
Dialogue: 0,0:49:13.44,0:49:16.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you identify with being that,
Dialogue: 0,0:49:16.30,0:49:23.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you become that, you repeat it.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:23.05,0:49:26.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the sense of identity,
Dialogue: 0,0:49:26.05,0:49:27.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's one of the reasons why
Dialogue: 0,0:49:27.75,0:49:30.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when I did go into prisons
Dialogue: 0,0:49:30.07,0:49:31.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to visit prisoners.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:31.67,0:49:33.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Again, I've never
Dialogue: 0,0:49:33.59,0:49:35.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,called them criminals, as you've
Dialogue: 0,0:49:35.13,0:49:36.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,heard me say before, there's
Dialogue: 0,0:49:36.52,0:49:38.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people who've done crimes
Dialogue: 0,0:49:38.10,0:49:40.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I kept on telling the people
Dialogue: 0,0:49:40.14,0:49:42.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in jail, "You are not a criminal.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:42.07,0:49:45.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You are a person who's done a crime.\NYou're not a criminal.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:45.09,0:49:47.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're something bigger than that.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:47.42,0:49:49.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Never think of yourself as a criminal.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:49.28,0:49:52.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're a person who's done a crime.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:52.14,0:49:56.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Don't identify with that\Nterrible act which you did.
Dialogue: 0,0:49:56.45,0:49:57.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you make that sense
Dialogue: 0,0:49:57.90,0:49:59.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of self with your crime, if that's who
Dialogue: 0,0:49:59.81,0:50:01.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you think you are, you are the burglar,
Dialogue: 0,0:50:01.92,0:50:03.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you are the killer, you are the rapist,
Dialogue: 0,0:50:03.92,0:50:06.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you become that.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:06.17,0:50:08.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which means when you\Nget released you'll do it again.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:08.88,0:50:10.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because that's who you are.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:10.25,0:50:12.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're the rapist, you're the killer,
Dialogue: 0,0:50:12.41,0:50:15.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're the adulterer, you're the
Dialogue: 0,0:50:15.42,0:50:21.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,child abuser.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:21.75,0:50:24.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is psychology, which I know
Dialogue: 0,0:50:24.54,0:50:26.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I've gone deep into my
Dialogue: 0,0:50:26.21,0:50:27.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mind and seen the way that minds
Dialogue: 0,0:50:27.96,0:50:29.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,work.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:29.20,0:50:33.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you're -- you make an identity
Dialogue: 0,0:50:33.53,0:50:36.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of who you think you are, that's
Dialogue: 0,0:50:36.68,0:50:38.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how you relate to the the world.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:38.62,0:50:40.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's who you become.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:40.21,0:50:42.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what you repeat.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:42.32,0:50:44.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what's expected of you,
Dialogue: 0,0:50:44.19,0:50:46.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so of course, that's what you do.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:46.87,0:50:50.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there we get the repeat
Dialogue: 0,0:50:50.52,0:50:52.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the harm and the hurt
Dialogue: 0,0:50:52.21,0:50:54.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,again and again and again and again.
Dialogue: 0,0:50:54.90,0:50:56.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why my father never
Dialogue: 0,0:50:56.37,0:50:58.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thought of himself as the abused
Dialogue: 0,0:50:58.01,0:51:00.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,child, so that's why he never
Dialogue: 0,0:51:00.14,0:51:02.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,repeated the abuse on me.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:02.08,0:51:04.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why a person who just forgives,
Dialogue: 0,0:51:04.66,0:51:07.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lets go, does not become the victim,
Dialogue: 0,0:51:07.95,0:51:15.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,becomes free and can live.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:15.62,0:51:20.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Last story, was a story which -- again
Dialogue: 0,0:51:20.19,0:51:23.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,many of these stories\Nyou've heard here before
Dialogue: 0,0:51:23.41,0:51:25.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but, I usually try to bring them
Dialogue: 0,0:51:25.54,0:51:27.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,together in one talk which is on
Dialogue: 0,0:51:27.37,0:51:30.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this one subject, simply because it fits
Dialogue: 0,0:51:30.66,0:51:32.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this talk goes outside and gets
Dialogue: 0,0:51:32.75,0:51:35.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,put on CDs and it's nice to be complete --
Dialogue: 0,0:51:35.10,0:51:38.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this was the story of those two
Dialogue: 0,0:51:38.16,0:51:41.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Australian soldiers meeting together
Dialogue: 0,0:51:41.09,0:51:43.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a reunion, they'd both been in the
Dialogue: 0,0:51:43.52,0:51:45.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Second World War, they'd both been
Dialogue: 0,0:51:45.58,0:51:48.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Singapore, the fall of Singapore,
Dialogue: 0,0:51:48.27,0:51:50.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and both been put in P.O.W. camps.
Dialogue: 0,0:51:50.100,0:51:54.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, one met the other, and said,
Dialogue: 0,0:51:54.64,0:51:56.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Have you forgiven the Japanese yet
Dialogue: 0,0:51:56.76,0:51:59.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for what they did to us and our friends?"
Dialogue: 0,0:51:59.09,0:52:00.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"No! Never!
Dialogue: 0,0:52:00.55,0:52:02.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How can you forgive that??"
Dialogue: 0,0:52:02.81,0:52:04.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,said one of the soldiers.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:04.66,0:52:06.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"What about you?"
Dialogue: 0,0:52:06.26,0:52:08.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,His friend said, "I forgave years ago.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:08.46,0:52:14.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But you, my friend, are\Nstill in the P.O.W. camp."
Dialogue: 0,0:52:14.01,0:52:16.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I love that story, simply because
Dialogue: 0,0:52:16.78,0:52:20.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,until you forgive -- until he forgave
Dialogue: 0,0:52:20.24,0:52:22.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what those guards, those soldiers,
Dialogue: 0,0:52:22.50,0:52:25.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,did to him and his friends,
Dialogue: 0,0:52:25.26,0:52:27.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the camps in Changi on the
Dialogue: 0,0:52:27.56,0:52:30.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Death Railway in Thailand
Dialogue: 0,0:52:30.03,0:52:32.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the Burmese border.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:32.02,0:52:33.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Until they forgave, they were still
Dialogue: 0,0:52:33.85,0:52:35.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being tortured.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:35.90,0:52:38.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're still in the camps.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:38.65,0:52:42.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They can never be happy.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:42.10,0:52:45.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,His friend had let go and therefore
Dialogue: 0,0:52:45.47,0:52:48.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he was free.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:48.39,0:52:50.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So when it comes
Dialogue: 0,0:52:50.14,0:52:53.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to happiness, you don't have to be
Dialogue: 0,0:52:53.30,0:52:56.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,controlled by what others did to you.
Dialogue: 0,0:52:56.45,0:52:59.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't have to be limited,
Dialogue: 0,0:52:59.56,0:53:04.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in prison, in jail, by\Nthe crimes which have
Dialogue: 0,0:53:04.94,0:53:08.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,been perpetrated on you in the past.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:08.56,0:53:10.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't even have to worry about
Dialogue: 0,0:53:10.48,0:53:11.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the crimes which you've done,
Dialogue: 0,0:53:11.94,0:53:14.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not talking about against the law,
Dialogue: 0,0:53:14.12,0:53:16.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the harm and hurt which you
Dialogue: 0,0:53:16.32,0:53:17.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have done to others.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:17.93,0:53:20.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know how many\Npeople feel guilty about
Dialogue: 0,0:53:20.27,0:53:22.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some of the things they've done,
Dialogue: 0,0:53:22.34,0:53:24.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've mentioned a few of those things
Dialogue: 0,0:53:24.18,0:53:26.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've always felt guilty about: playing
Dialogue: 0,0:53:26.63,0:53:28.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my Jimmie Hendrix records too loud
Dialogue: 0,0:53:28.76,0:53:31.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to my father while he was playing his
Dialogue: 0,0:53:31.23,0:53:34.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sinatra records, never really, sort of
Dialogue: 0,0:53:34.19,0:53:35.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being a really good son to
Dialogue: 0,0:53:35.88,0:53:37.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,him; never selling those
Dialogue: 0,0:53:37.86,0:53:39.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,encyclopedias when I was a kid,
Dialogue: 0,0:53:39.65,0:53:41.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,getting someone actually to buy
Dialogue: 0,0:53:41.94,0:53:43.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an encyclopedia, just a rubbish book.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:43.73,0:53:45.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know why they even bought that,
Dialogue: 0,0:53:45.63,0:53:46.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I made them buy it.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:46.94,0:53:49.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And all the terrible things you did as
Dialogue: 0,0:53:49.06,0:53:52.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a kid, gee, what did I do those for?
Dialogue: 0,0:53:52.43,0:53:56.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's so easy to feel guilty about the\Nsmallest of things.
Dialogue: 0,0:53:56.38,0:53:58.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why not, why can't we just let them
Dialogue: 0,0:53:58.12,0:54:02.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,go, learn from them and move on?
Dialogue: 0,0:54:02.20,0:54:04.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Until you do, you can never be
Dialogue: 0,0:54:04.06,0:54:06.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,free and never be happy.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:06.19,0:54:11.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this is not a small thing.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:11.84,0:54:13.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can never really be virtuous
Dialogue: 0,0:54:13.62,0:54:17.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and good until you're free.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:17.42,0:54:20.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And as far as meditation is concerned,
Dialogue: 0,0:54:20.15,0:54:22.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,no matter how many people I've taught
Dialogue: 0,0:54:22.20,0:54:24.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,meditation to, when they get to a
Dialogue: 0,0:54:24.45,0:54:26.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,certain point in happiness and peace,
Dialogue: 0,0:54:26.95,0:54:29.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they can't go any further, and they kept
Dialogue: 0,0:54:29.60,0:54:32.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,coming back with the same complaint,
Dialogue: 0,0:54:32.70,0:54:38.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I don't think I deserve to be so happy.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:38.60,0:54:43.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't think I deserve to be at peace.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:43.21,0:54:44.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't think I deserve to be
Dialogue: 0,0:54:44.93,0:54:48.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,enlightened," basically.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:48.24,0:54:51.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And really that's another\Ndagger to my heart.
Dialogue: 0,0:54:51.47,0:54:54.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why not?\NIf all I do in my life
Dialogue: 0,0:54:54.02,0:54:56.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a monk, teaching here Friday night,
Dialogue: 0,0:54:56.83,0:54:59.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going overseas, if that's all I ever
Dialogue: 0,0:54:59.79,0:55:02.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,give to you, the conviction that
Dialogue: 0,0:55:02.46,0:55:05.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you deserve to be happy, that you
Dialogue: 0,0:55:05.83,0:55:08.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,deserve to be free, that you deserve
Dialogue: 0,0:55:08.92,0:55:11.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be enlightened.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:11.08,0:55:15.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't feel\Nso guilty, you don't attach to those
Dialogue: 0,0:55:15.47,0:55:17.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,painful things in the past.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:17.46,0:55:19.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You are free.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:19.77,0:55:21.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can let go,
Dialogue: 0,0:55:21.39,0:55:23.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,both other people's harm, and
Dialogue: 0,0:55:23.75,0:55:27.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your own harm as well;
Dialogue: 0,0:55:27.54,0:55:30.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be able to forgive yourself\Nand forgive others.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:30.27,0:55:31.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What that means
Dialogue: 0,0:55:31.72,0:55:34.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is giving yourself the gift of
Dialogue: 0,0:55:34.01,0:55:36.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,freedom.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:36.01,0:55:38.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No one else can do that for you.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:38.01,0:55:40.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Look, a Jesus can't forgive,
Dialogue: 0,0:55:40.06,0:55:42.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a monk can't forgive, a Buddha
Dialogue: 0,0:55:42.69,0:55:45.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can't forgive, a God can't forgive,
Dialogue: 0,0:55:45.76,0:55:48.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,only you can forgive you.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:48.04,0:55:49.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No one else.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:49.67,0:55:50.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All these other people
Dialogue: 0,0:55:50.90,0:55:52.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they can encourage, they can teach,
Dialogue: 0,0:55:52.49,0:55:54.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they can lead, they can inspire,
Dialogue: 0,0:55:54.21,0:55:57.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but in the end it's up to you.
Dialogue: 0,0:55:57.94,0:56:02.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One day, one day you'll do that.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:02.92,0:56:06.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This life, the next life, or some life,
Dialogue: 0,0:56:06.19,0:56:08.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you'll look at all your past, all the
Dialogue: 0,0:56:08.12,0:56:13.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hurt, all the harm, and let it go.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:13.59,0:56:15.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Say to yourself, in those words of
Dialogue: 0,0:56:15.79,0:56:19.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my father, "Whatever I have done
Dialogue: 0,0:56:19.21,0:56:21.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in my life, what other people
Dialogue: 0,0:56:21.81,0:56:25.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have done to me, the door of my heart
Dialogue: 0,0:56:25.57,0:56:29.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is open to me, fully, absolutely.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:29.81,0:56:34.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Happiness, freedom, come in."
Dialogue: 0,0:56:34.45,0:56:37.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To be able to invite freedom in,
Dialogue: 0,0:56:37.61,0:56:39.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,invite happiness in.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:39.73,0:56:43.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's a liberation there,
Dialogue: 0,0:56:43.18,0:56:44.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is why very often the Buddha
Dialogue: 0,0:56:44.95,0:56:47.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,called those enlightenment
Dialogue: 0,0:56:47.42,0:56:50.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,experiences liberations.
Dialogue: 0,0:56:50.30,0:56:53.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Freedom from suffering, freedom from pain,
Dialogue: 0,0:56:53.65,0:56:56.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,freedom from the past!
Dialogue: 0,0:56:56.82,0:56:59.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why do we carry the past around,
Dialogue: 0,0:56:59.10,0:57:01.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so heavy on our back? Because
Dialogue: 0,0:57:01.07,0:57:04.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's what being a victim is.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:04.90,0:57:06.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was telling people in Melbourne,
Dialogue: 0,0:57:06.82,0:57:08.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just came back from Melbourne
Dialogue: 0,0:57:08.46,0:57:11.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on Wednesday night, just reminiscing,
Dialogue: 0,0:57:11.36,0:57:13.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'cause someone asked, "What was
Dialogue: 0,0:57:13.47,0:57:15.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it like being a monk in Thailand
Dialogue: 0,0:57:15.63,0:57:17.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,many years ago?"
Dialogue: 0,0:57:17.69,0:57:19.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was reminiscing
Dialogue: 0,0:57:19.77,0:57:23.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about one of the most wonderful times
Dialogue: 0,0:57:23.85,0:57:26.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had in Thailand.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:26.03,0:57:29.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When after five years I left my monastery
Dialogue: 0,0:57:29.37,0:57:32.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with all my possessions on my back
Dialogue: 0,0:57:32.88,0:57:36.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(and that wasn't many possessions).
Dialogue: 0,0:57:36.36,0:57:39.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You had to walk and you had
Dialogue: 0,0:57:39.69,0:57:43.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,no place to go, you could go to
Dialogue: 0,0:57:43.18,0:57:46.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,any monastery and have a bed
Dialogue: 0,0:57:46.12,0:57:48.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the night, any village in the morning
Dialogue: 0,0:57:48.85,0:57:52.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with your bowl, and get some food in it.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:52.50,0:57:54.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're completely free.
Dialogue: 0,0:57:54.87,0:57:57.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Any tree you could just sit
Dialogue: 0,0:57:57.15,0:57:59.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,underneath it, put your mosquito net
Dialogue: 0,0:57:59.47,0:58:03.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there, meditate, sleep.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:03.71,0:58:06.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was literally like being a bird,
Dialogue: 0,0:58:06.02,0:58:08.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but better than being a bird,
Dialogue: 0,0:58:08.40,0:58:10.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a bird always has to hunt for their food.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:10.91,0:58:12.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For me, I knew any place,
Dialogue: 0,0:58:12.86,0:58:14.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,any village I went to, there was food
Dialogue: 0,0:58:14.67,0:58:17.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there for me.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:17.83,0:58:19.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it was such a freedom
Dialogue: 0,0:58:19.15,0:58:22.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I was attached to no place
Dialogue: 0,0:58:22.20,0:58:26.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to no thing.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:26.39,0:58:28.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every crossroads I got
Dialogue: 0,0:58:28.18,0:58:32.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to I could go forward, go left, go right,
Dialogue: 0,0:58:32.72,0:58:35.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or just turn 'round and go back.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:35.36,0:58:38.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had no duties, nothing compelling
Dialogue: 0,0:58:38.13,0:58:42.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,me to go in any directions.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:42.31,0:58:45.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No duties, no burdens, no things
Dialogue: 0,0:58:45.64,0:58:49.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to do, no unfinished business.
Dialogue: 0,0:58:49.43,0:58:53.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This complete freedom is physically
Dialogue: 0,0:58:53.35,0:58:56.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the most freedom I've ever felt,
Dialogue: 0,0:58:56.03,0:58:58.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and everything you owned,
Dialogue: 0,0:58:58.63,0:59:00.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you had with you: my bowl,
Dialogue: 0,0:59:00.60,0:59:02.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my mosquito net, an umbrella,
Dialogue: 0,0:59:02.53,0:59:04.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,water pot, spare set of robes
Dialogue: 0,0:59:04.51,0:59:06.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that was all.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:06.18,0:59:07.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You could wander
Dialogue: 0,0:59:07.92,0:59:10.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wherever you wanted.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:10.46,0:59:13.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was so much freedom.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:13.20,0:59:14.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I always remember
Dialogue: 0,0:59:14.67,0:59:17.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that that's the same freedom which you
Dialogue: 0,0:59:17.02,0:59:19.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can have in your mind at any time.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:19.95,0:59:22.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Any crossroads you come to in life,
Dialogue: 0,0:59:22.07,0:59:24.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,go whichever way,
Dialogue: 0,0:59:24.35,0:59:26.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,'cause you're not burdened by the past,
Dialogue: 0,0:59:26.97,0:59:30.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're not carrying baggage.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:30.59,0:59:32.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How much baggage do people carry
Dialogue: 0,0:59:32.99,0:59:35.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in this life?
Dialogue: 0,0:59:35.24,0:59:37.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mostly it's the baggage of our past,
Dialogue: 0,0:59:37.30,0:59:40.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our history.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:40.23,0:59:41.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What happened to you,
Dialogue: 0,0:59:41.73,0:59:46.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who did what to you, who said what,
Dialogue: 0,0:59:46.44,0:59:50.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you want happiness, let go.
Dialogue: 0,0:59:50.94,0:59:55.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Free your past, at very least,
Dialogue: 0,0:59:55.49,0:59:57.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,free the pain of the past and keep
Dialogue: 0,0:59:57.55,1:00:01.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the happy memories -- at least that way
Dialogue: 0,1:00:01.03,1:00:03.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're carrying enjoyable baggage --
Dialogue: 0,1:00:03.69,1:00:06.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but even better to leave it all behind.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:06.62,1:00:09.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is such a thing as happiness
Dialogue: 0,1:00:09.57,1:00:12.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in this world and the happiness
Dialogue: 0,1:00:12.96,1:00:15.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is no one else's responsibility,
Dialogue: 0,1:00:15.11,1:00:18.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's yours and that happiness
Dialogue: 0,1:00:18.77,1:00:20.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is there for you at any moment
Dialogue: 0,1:00:20.95,1:00:22.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at any time.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:22.95,1:00:24.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's a door, which
Dialogue: 0,1:00:24.26,1:00:26.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is open from the cell which is
Dialogue: 0,1:00:26.79,1:00:29.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sometimes what your life feels like,
Dialogue: 0,1:00:29.35,1:00:31.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being in a prison of your past,
Dialogue: 0,1:00:31.13,1:00:33.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of what happened to you,
Dialogue: 0,1:00:33.02,1:00:37.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of your body, your pain, your sickness,
Dialogue: 0,1:00:37.36,1:00:39.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this pain which has happened to you --
Dialogue: 0,1:00:39.32,1:00:42.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's like being in a prison, but it's
Dialogue: 0,1:00:42.45,1:00:45.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a prison whose door is always open,
Dialogue: 0,1:00:45.88,1:00:48.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,always open, it's just sometimes we
Dialogue: 0,1:00:48.64,1:00:51.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't know how to walk through it.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:51.88,1:00:53.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes we think we're not supposed
Dialogue: 0,1:00:53.67,1:00:55.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to walk through it.
Dialogue: 0,1:00:55.07,1:00:58.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And here I tell you,
Dialogue: 0,1:00:58.04,1:01:01.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,walk, be free, let go.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:01.13,1:01:03.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is such a thing as happiness in
Dialogue: 0,1:01:03.21,1:01:07.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,life, there is such a thing as freedom,
Dialogue: 0,1:01:07.72,1:01:10.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there is such a thing as forgiveness
Dialogue: 0,1:01:10.18,1:01:12.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and reconciliation, there is such
Dialogue: 0,1:01:12.45,1:01:16.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a thing, there's such love that you can
Dialogue: 0,1:01:16.24,1:01:20.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,free yourself and free others and let go.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:20.23,1:01:22.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that freedom and that love is
Dialogue: 0,1:01:22.57,1:01:26.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not a copping out of life, that is the
Dialogue: 0,1:01:26.21,1:01:29.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,heart of a positive response.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:29.56,1:01:31.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Free yourself and you show
Dialogue: 0,1:01:31.81,1:01:33.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the way to freedom for others.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:33.87,1:01:35.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And much of the pain and
Dialogue: 0,1:01:35.65,1:01:38.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the cause of pain in life -- as the
Dialogue: 0,1:01:38.84,1:01:40.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Assistant Commissioner said today,
Dialogue: 0,1:01:40.68,1:01:43.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something like 80 or 90%,
Dialogue: 0,1:01:43.01,1:01:45.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he was saying of people in prisons
Dialogue: 0,1:01:45.97,1:01:48.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Western Australia have themselves
Dialogue: 0,1:01:48.40,1:01:54.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,been victims of child abuse.
Dialogue: 0,1:01:54.01,1:01:56.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because they could not forgive,
Dialogue: 0,1:01:56.01,1:01:59.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they could not let go,
Dialogue: 0,1:01:59.01,1:02:01.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they could not find freedom,
Dialogue: 0,1:02:01.12,1:02:04.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now they're in jail
Dialogue: 0,1:02:04.08,1:02:07.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,having also caused pain to others.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:07.78,1:02:10.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what is the way forward?
Dialogue: 0,1:02:10.68,1:02:13.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think I've shown it to you:
Dialogue: 0,1:02:13.41,1:02:16.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to have the guts to see things in
Dialogue: 0,1:02:16.48,1:02:20.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a different way, to free oneself.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:20.83,1:02:22.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't need to feel grief,
Dialogue: 0,1:02:22.81,1:02:24.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you don't need to feel that pain.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:24.58,1:02:27.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can walk out whenever you want.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:27.04,1:02:29.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's called freedom,
Dialogue: 0,1:02:29.25,1:02:32.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the path to happiness.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:32.47,1:02:34.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the talk this evening
Dialogue: 0,1:02:34.05,1:02:35.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on is it possible to be happy?
Dialogue: 0,1:02:35.51,1:02:38.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, that's one of the ways how.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:38.70,1:02:42.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Audience: Sadhu, Sadhu, Sadhu!
Dialogue: 0,1:02:42.17,1:02:45.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ajahn: Ok, so any questions or comments?
Dialogue: 0,1:02:45.21,1:02:47.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I hope it's been challenging,
Dialogue: 0,1:02:47.16,1:02:49.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I hope a few people disagree with me.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:49.68,1:02:53.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Otherwise, I didn't challenge hard enough.
Dialogue: 0,1:02:53.15,1:02:55.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Any comments or questions
Dialogue: 0,1:02:55.88,1:02:59.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about the talk this evening?
Dialogue: 0,1:02:59.76,1:03:01.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe that's just something for
Dialogue: 0,1:03:01.66,1:03:03.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you to contemplate... see later on
Dialogue: 0,1:03:03.62,1:03:07.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if it makes sense or not.
Dialogue: 0,1:03:07.67,1:03:10.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, no comments, questions? Ok