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Why we laugh

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    Hi. I'm going to talk
    to you today about laughter,
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    and I just want to start
    by thinking about the first time
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    I can ever remember noticing laughter.
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    This is when I was a little girl.
    I would've been about six,
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    and I came across my parents
    doing something unusual
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    where they were laughing.
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    They were laughing very, very hard.
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    They were lying on the floor laughing.
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    They were screaming with laughter.
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    I did not know what they were
    laughing at, but I wanted in.
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    I wanted to be part of that,
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    and I kind of sat around
    at the edge going , "Hoo hoo!"
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    Now, incidentally,
    what they were laughing at
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    was a song which people used to sing
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    which was based around
    signs in toilets on trains
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    telling you what you could
    and could not do
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    in toilets on trains.
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    And the thing you have to remember
    about the English is, of course,
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    we do have an immensely
    sophisticated sense of humor.
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    (Laughter)
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    At the time, though, I didn't
    understand anything of that.
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    I just cared about the laughter,
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    and actually, as a neuroscientist,
    I've come to care about it again.
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    And it is a really weird thing to do.
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    What I'm going to do now
    is just play some examples
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    of real human beings laughing,
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    and I want you think about the sound
    people make and how odd that can be,
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    and in fact how primitive
    laughter is as a sound.
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    It's much more like an animal call
    than it is like speech.
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    So here we've got some laughter for you.
    The first one is pretty joyful.
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    (Audio recording of different people laughing)
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    Now this next guy, I need him to breathe.
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    There's a point in there
    where I'm just, like,
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    you've got to get some air in there, mate,
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    because he just sounds
    like he's breathing out.
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    (Recording of laughter)
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    This hasn't been edited, this is him.
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    (Recording of laughter)
    (Audience Laughter)
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    And finally we have this,
    the human female laughing.
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    And laughter can take us to some pretty
    odd places in terms of making noises.
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    (Audio recording of laughter)
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    (Laughter)
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    She actually says, "Oh my God,
    what is that?" in French.
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    We're all kind of with her.
    I have no idea.
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    Now, to understand laughter,
    you have to look at a part of the body
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    that psychologists and neuroscientists
    don't normally spend much time looking at,
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    which is the ribcage,
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    and it doesn't seem terribly exciting,
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    but actually you're all using
    your ribcage all the time.
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    What you're all doing
    at the moment with your ribcage,
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    and don't stop doing it, is breathing.
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    So you use the intercostal muscles,
    the muscles between your ribs,
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    to bring air in and out of your lungs
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    just by expanding
    and contracting your ribcage,
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    and if I was to put a strap
    around the outside of your chest
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    called a breath belt, and just look
    at that movement,
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    you see a rather gentle sinusoidal
    movement, so that's breathing.
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    You're all doing it. Don't stop.
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    As soon as you start talking,
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    you start using your breathing
    completely differently.
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    So what I'm doing now is you see
    something much more like this.
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    In talking, you use a very fine
    movement of the ribcage
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    to squeeze the air out,
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    and in fact, we're the only animals
    that can do this.
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    It's why we can talk at all.
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    Now, both talking and breathing
    has a mortal enemy,
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    and that enemy is laughter,
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    because what happens when you laugh
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    is those same muscles
    start to contract very regularly,
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    and you get this very marked
    sort of zig-zagging,
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    and that's just squeezing
    the air out of you.
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    It literally is that basic a way
    of making a sound.
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    You could be stamping on somebody,
    it's having the same effect,
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    you're just squeezing air out,
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    and each of those contractions
    -- ha! -- gives you a sound.
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    If the contractions run together,
    you can get these spasms,
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    and that's when you start getting
    these "haaaaa" things happening.
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    I'm brilliant at this. (Laughter)
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    Now, in terms of the science of laughter,
    there isn't very much,
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    but it does turn out that pretty much
    everything we think we know
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    about laughter is wrong.
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    So it's not at all unusual, for example,
    to hear people to say,
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    "Humans are the only animals that laugh."
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    Nietzsche thought that humans
    are the only animals that laugh.
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    In fact, you find laughter
    throughout the mammals.
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    It's been well-described
    and well-observed in primates,
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    but you also see it in rats,
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    and wherever you find it
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    -- humans, primates, rats --
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    you find it associated
    with things like tickling.
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    That's the same for humans.
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    You find it associated with play,
    and all mammals play.
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    And wherever you find it,
    it's associated with interactions.
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    So Robert Provine, who has done
    a lot of work on this,
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    has pointed out that you are 30 times
    more likely to laugh
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    if you are with somebody else
    than if you're on your own,
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    and where you find most laughter
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    is in social interactions
    like conversation.
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    So if you ask human beings,
    "When do you laugh?"
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    they'll talk about comedy and they'll talk
    about humor and they'll talk about jokes.
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    If you look at when they laugh,
    they're laughing with their friends.
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    And when we laugh with people,
    we're hardly ever laughing at jokes.
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    You are laughing to show people
    that you understand them,
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    that you agree with them, that you're
    part of the same group as them.
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    You're laughing to show
    that you like them.
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    You might even love them.
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    You're doing all that at the same time
    as talking to them,
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    and the laughter is doing a lot
    of that emotional work for you.
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    Something that Robert Provine
    has pointed out, as you can see here,
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    and the reason why we were laughing
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    when we heard those
    funny laughs at the start,
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    and why I was laughing
    when I found my parents laughing,
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    is that it's an enormously
    behaviorally contagious effect.
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    You can catch laughter from somebody else,
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    and you are more likely to catch laughter
    off somebody else if you know them.
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    So it's still modulated
    by this social context.
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    You have to put humor to one side
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    and think about the social
    meaning of laughter
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    because that's where its origins lie.
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    Now, something I've got very interested in
    is different kinds of laughter,
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    and we have some neurobiological evidence
    about how human beings vocalize
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    that suggests there might be
    two kinds of laughs that we have.
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    So it seems possible that the neurobiology
    for helpless, involuntary laughter,
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    like my parents lying on the floor
    screaming about a silly song,
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    might have a different basis to it
    than some of that more polite
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    social laughter that you encounter,
    which isn't horrible laughter,
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    but it's behavior somebody is doing
    as part of their communicative act to you,
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    part of their interaction with you.
    They are choosing to do this.
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    In our evolution, we have developed
    two different ways of vocalizing.
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    involuntary vocalizations
    are part of an older system
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    than the more voluntary vocalizations
    like the speech I'm doing now.
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    So we might imagine that laughter
    might actually have two different roots.
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    So I've been looking at this
    in more detail.
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    To do this, we've had to make
    recordings of people laughing,
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    and we've had to do whatever it takes
    to make people laugh,
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    and we got those same people
    to produce more posed, social laughter.
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    So imagine your friend told a joke, and
    you're laughing 'cos you like your friend,
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    but not really because
    the joke's all that.
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    So I'm going to play you
    a couple of those.
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    I want you to tell me if you think
    this laughter is real laughter,
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    or if you think it's posed.
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    So is this involuntary laughter
    or more voluntary laughter?
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    (Audio laughter)
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    What does that sound like to you?
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    Posed? Posed.
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    How about this one?
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    (Audio laughter)
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    (Audience Laughter)
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    I'm the best.
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    (Laughter) (Applause)
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    Not really.
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    No, that was helpless laughter,
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    and in fact, to record that,
    all they had to do was record me
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    watching one of my friends listening
    to something I knew she wants to laugh at,
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    and I just started doing this.
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    What you find is that people
    are good at telling the difference
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    between real and posed laughter.
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    They seem to be different things to us.
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    Interestingly, you see something
    similar with chimpanzees.
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    Chimpanzees laugh differently
    if they're being tickled
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    than if they're playing with each other,
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    and we might be seeing
    something like that here,
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    involuntary laughter, tickling laughter,
    being different from social laughter.
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    They're acoustically very different.
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    The real laughs are longer.
    They're higher in pitch.
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    When you start laughing hard,
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    you start squeezing air out
    from your lungs
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    under much higher pressures
    than you could ever produce voluntarily.
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    For example, I could never
    pitch my voice that high to sing.
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    Also, you start to get these sort of
    contractions and weird whistling sounds,
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    all of which mean that real laughter
    is extremely easy,
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    or feels extremely easy to spot.
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    In contrast, posed laughter,
    we might think it sounds a bit fake.
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    Actually, it's not, it's actually
    an important social cue.
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    We use it a lot, we're choosing
    to laugh in a lot of situations,
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    and it seems to be its own thing.
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    So, for example, you find
    nasality in posed laughter,
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    that kind of "ha ha ha ha ha" sound
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    that you never get, you could not do,
    if you were laughing involuntarily.
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    So they do seem to be genuinely
    these two different sorts of things.
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    We took it into the scanner
    to see how brains respond
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    when you hear laughter.
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    And when you do this,
    this is a really boring experiment.
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    We just played people
    real and posed laughs.
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    We didn't tell them
    it was a study on laughter.
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    We put other sounds in there
    to distract them,
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    and all they're doing
    is listening to sounds.
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    We don't tell them to do anything.
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    Nonetheless, when you hear real laughter
    and when you hear posed laughter,
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    the brains are responding
    completely differently,
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    significantly differently.
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    What you see in the regions in blue,
    which lies in auditory cortex,
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    are the brain areas that respond
    more to the real laughs,
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    and what seems to be the case,
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    when you hear somebody
    laughing involuntarily,
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    you hear sounds you would never
    hear in any other context.
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    It's very unambiguous,
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    and it seems to be associated
    with greater auditory processing
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    of these novel sounds.
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    In contrast, when you hear somebody
    laughing in a posed way,
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    what you see are the regions in pink,
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    which are occupying brain areas
    associated with mentalizing,
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    thinking about what
    somebody else is thinking.
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    And I think what that means is,
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    even if you're having your brain scanned,
    which is completely boring
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    and not very interesting,
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    when you hear somebody going,
    "A ha ha ha ha ha,"
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    you're trying to work out
    why they're laughing.
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    Laughter is always meaningful.
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    You are always trying
    to understand it in context,
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    even if, as far as you are concerned,
    at that point in time,
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    it has not necessarily
    anything to do with you,
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    you still want to know
    why those people are laughing.
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    Now, we've had the opportunity to look
    at how people hear real and posed laughter
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    across the age range.
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    So this is an online experiment
    we ran with the Royal Society,
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    and here we just asked people
    two questions.
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    First of all, they heard some laughs,
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    and they had to say, how real
    or posed do these laughs sound?
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    The real laughs are shown in red
    and the posed laughs are shown in blue.
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    What you see is there is a rapid onset.
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    As you get older, you get better
    and better at spotting real laughter.
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    So six year olds are at chance,
    they can't really hear the difference.
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    By the time you are older, you get better,
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    but interestingly, you do not hit
    peak performance in this dataset
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    until you are in your
    late 30s and early 40s.
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    You don't understand laughter fully
    by the time you hit puberty.
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    You don't understand laughter fully
    by the time your brain is matured
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    at the end of your teens.
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    You're learning about laughter
    throughout your entire early adult life.
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    If we turn the question around and now say
    not what does the laughter sound like
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    in terms of being real
    or posed, but we say,
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    "How much does this laughter
    make you want to laugh?
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    How contagious is this laughter to you?"
    we see a different profile.
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    And here, the younger you are,
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    the more you want to join in
    when you hear laughter.
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    Remember me laughing with my parents
    when I had no idea what was going on.
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    You really can see this.
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    Now everybody, young and old,
    finds the real laughs
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    more contagious than the posed laughs,
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    but as you get older, it all becomes
    less contagious to you.
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    Now either we're all just becoming
    really grumpy as we get older,
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    or it may mean that as you
    understand laughter better,
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    and you are getting better at doing that,
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    you need more than just
    hearing people laugh to want to laugh.
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    You need the social stuff there.
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    So we've got a very interesting behavior
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    about which a lot of our
    lay assumptions are incorrect,
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    but I'm coming to see that actually
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    there's even more to laughter
    than it's an important social emotion
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    we should look at, because it turns out
    people are phenomenally nuanced
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    in terms of how we use laughter.
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    There's a really lovely set of studies
    coming out from Robert Levenson's lab
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    in California, where he's doing
    a longitudinal study with couples.
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    He gets married couples, men and women,
    into the lab, and he gives them
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    stressful conversations to have
    while he wires them up to a polygraph
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    so he can see them becoming stressed.
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    So you've got the two of them in there,
    and he'll say to the husband,
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    "Tell me something that your wife does
    that irritates you."
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    And what you see is immediately
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    -- just run that one through your head
    briefly, you and your partner --
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    you can imagine everybody gets a bit
    more stressed as soon as that starts.
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    You can see physically,
    people become more stressed.
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    What he finds is that the couples
    who manage that feeling of stress
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    with laughter,
    positive emotions like laughter,
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    not only immediately become less stressed,
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    they can see them
    physically feeling better,
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    they're dealing with this
    unpleasant situation better together,
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    they are also the couples that report
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    high levels of satisfaction
    in their relationship
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    and they stay together for longer.
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    So in fact, when you look
    at close relationships,
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    laughter is a phenomenally useful index
    of how people are regulating
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    their emotions together.
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    We're not just emitting at each other
    to show that we like each other,
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    we're making ourselves
    feel better together.
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    Now, I don't think this is going
    to be limited to romantic relationships.
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    I think this is probably
    going to be a characteristic
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    of close emotional relationships
    such as you might have with friends,
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    which explains my next clip,
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    which is of a YouTube video of some
    young men in the former East Germany
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    on making a video to promote
    their heavy metal band,
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    and it's extremely macho,
    and the mood is very serious,
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    and I want to notice what happens
    in terms of laughter
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    when things go wrong
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    and how quickly that happens,
    and how that changes the mood.
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    He's cold. He's about to get wet.
    He's got swimming trunks on,
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    got a towel.
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    Ice.
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    What might possibly happen?
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    Video starts.
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    Serious mood.
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    And his friends are already laughing.
    They are already laughing, hard.
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    He's not laughing yet.
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    (Laughter)
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    He's starting to go now.
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    And now they're all off.
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    (Laughter)
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    They're on the floor.
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    (Laughter)
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    The thing I really like about that
    is it's all very kind of serious
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    until he jumps onto the ice, and
    as soon as he doesn't go through the ice,
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    but also there isn't blood
    and bone everywhere,
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    his friends start laughing,
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    and imagine that hadn't played him out
    with him standing there, saying,
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    "No seriously, Heinrich,
    I think this is broken,"
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    we wouldn't enjoy watching that.
    That would be stressful.
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    Or if he was running around
    with a visibly broken leg laughing,
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    and his friends are going, "Heinrich, I
    think we need to go to the hospital now,"
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    that also wouldn't be funny.
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    The fact that the laughter works,
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    it gets him from a painful,
    embarrassing, difficult situation,
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    into a funny situation, into what we're
    actually enjoying there,
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    and I think that's
    a really interesting use,
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    and it's actually happening all the time.
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    For example, I can remember
    something like this happening
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    at my father's funeral.
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    We weren't jumping round
    on the ice in our underpants.
  • 15:30 - 15:32
    We're not Canadian.
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    But -- (Laughter) (Applause)
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    These events are always difficult, I had
    a relative who was being a bit difficult,
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    my mum was not in a good place,
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    and I can remember finding myself
    just before the whole thing started
  • 15:45 - 15:48
    telling this story about something
    that happened in a 1970s sitcom,
  • 15:48 - 15:52
    and I just thought,
    I don't know why I'm doing this,
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    and what I realized I was doing
    was I was coming up with something
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    from somewhere I could use
    to make her laugh together with me.
  • 16:00 - 16:03
    It was a very basic reaction
    to shine some reason we can do this.
  • 16:03 - 16:06
    We can laugh together.
    We're going to get through this.
  • 16:06 - 16:07
    We're going to be okay.
  • 16:07 - 16:09
    And in fact, all of us
    are doing this all the time.
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    You do it so often,
    you don't even notice it.
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    Everybody underestimates
    how often they laugh,
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    and you're doing something,
    when you laugh with people,
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    that's actually letting you access
    a really ancient evolutionary system
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    that mammals have evolved
    to make and maintain social bonds,
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    and clearly to regulate emotions,
    to make ourselves feel better.
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    It's not something specific to humans.
    It's a really ancient behavior
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    which really helps us regulate how we feel
    and makes us feel better.
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    In other words, when it comes to laughter,
  • 16:40 - 16:42
    you and me, baby,
    ain't nothing but mammals.
  • 16:42 - 16:45
    Thank you.
  • 16:45 - 16:52
    Thank you. (Applause)
Title:
Why we laugh
Speaker:
Sophie Scott
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Team:
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Duration:
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