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Why we laugh

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    Hi. I'm going to talk to you
    today about laughter,
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    and I just want to start by thinking about
    the first time I can ever remember
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    noticing laughter.
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    This is when I was a little girl.
    I would've been about six,
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    and I came across my parents
    doing something unusual
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    where they were laughing.
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    They were laughing very, very hard.
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    They were lying on the floor laughing.
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    They were screaming with laughter.
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    I did not know what they were laughing at,
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    but I wanted in.
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    I wanted to be part of that,
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    and I kind of sat around
    at the edge going , "Hoo hoo!"
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    Now, incidentally,
    what they were laughing at
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    was a song which people used to sing
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    which was based around
    signs in toilets on trains
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    telling you what you could
    and could not do
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    in toilets on trains.
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    And the thing you have to remember
    about the English is, of course,
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    we do have an immensely
    sophisticated sense of humor.
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    (Laughter)
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    At the time, though, I didn't
    understand anything of that.
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    I just cared about the laughter,
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    and actually, as a neuroscientist,
    I've come to care about it again.
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    And it is a really weird thing to do.
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    What I'm going to do now
    is just play some examples
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    of real human beings laughing,
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    and I want you think about the sound
    people make and how odd that can be,
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    and in fact how primitive
    laughter is as a sound.
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    It's much more like an animal call
    than it is like speech.
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    So here we've got some laughter for you.
    The first one is pretty joyful.
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    (Video laughter)
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    (Laughter)
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    Now this next guy, I need him to breathe.
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    There's a point in there
    where I'm just, like,
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    you've got to get some air in there, mate,
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    because he just sounds
    like he's breathing out.
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    (Video laughter)
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    This hasn't been edited, this is him.
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    (Video laughter)
    (Laughter)
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    And finally we have this,
    the human female laughing.
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    And laughter can take us to some pretty
    odd places in terms of making noises.
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    (Video laughter)
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    (Laughter)
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    She actually says, "Oh my God,
    what is that?" in French.
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    We're all kind of with her.
    I have no idea.
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    Now, to understand laughter,
    you have to look at a part of the body
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    that psychologists and neuroscientists
    don't normally spend very much time
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    looking at, which is the ribcage,
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    and it doesn't seem terribly exciting,
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    but actually you're all
    using your ribcage all the time.
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    What you're all doing
    at the moment with your ribcage,
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    and don't stop doing it, is breathing.
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    So you use the [??] muscles,
    the muscles between your ribs,
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    to bring air in and out of your lungs
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    just by expanding
    and contracting your ribcage,
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    and if I was to put a strap
    around the outside of your chest,
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    it's called a breath belt,
    and just look at that movement,
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    you see a sort of rather gentle,
    sinusoidal movement, so that's breathing.
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    You're all doing it. Don't stop.
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    As soon as you start talking,
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    you start using your breathing
    completely differently.
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    So what I'm doing now is you see
    something much more like this.
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    In talking, you use a very fine
    movement of the ribcage
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    to squeeze the air out,
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    and in fact, we're the only animals
    that can do this.
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    It's why we can talk at all.
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    Now, both talking and breathing
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    has a mortal enemy,
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    and that enemy is laughter,
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    because what happens when you laugh
    is those same muscles
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    start to contract very regularly,
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    and you get this very marked
    sort of zig-zagging,
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    and that's just squeezing
    the air out of you.
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    It literally is that basic a way
    of making a sound.
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    You could be stamping on somebody.
    It's having the same effect.
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    You're just squeezing the air out.
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    Each of those contractions
    -- ha! -- gives you a sound.
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    And now if the contractions run together,
    you can get these spasms,
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    and that's when you start getting
    these "haaaaa" things happening.
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    I'm brilliant at this. (Laughter)
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    Now, in terms of the science of laughter,
    there isn't very much,
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    but it does turn out that pretty much
    everything we think we know
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    about laughter is wrong.
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    So it's not at all unusual, for example,
    to hear people to say,
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    "Humans are the only animals that laugh."
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    Nietzsche thought that humans
    are the only animals that laugh.
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    In fact, you find laughter
    throughout the mammals.
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    It's been well-described
    and well-observed in primates,
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    but you also see it in rats,
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    and wherever you find it
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    -- humans, primates, rats --
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    you find it associated
    with things like tickling.
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    That's the same for humans.
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    You find it associated with play,
    and all mammals play.
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    And wherever you find it,
    it's associated with interactions.
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    So Robert Provine, who has done
    a lot of work on this, has pointed out
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    that you are 30 times more likely to laugh
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    if you are with somebody else
    than if you're on your own,
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    and where you find most laughter
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    is in social interactions
    like conversation.
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    So if you ask human beings,
    "When do you laugh?"
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    they'll talk about comedy and they'll talk
    about humor and they'll talk about jokes.
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    If you look at when they laugh,
    they're laughing with their friends.
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    And when we laugh with people,
    we're hardly ever actually
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    laughing at jokes.
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    You are laughing to show people
    you understand them,
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    that you agree with them, that you're
    part of the same group as them.
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    You're laughing to show
    that you like them.
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    You might even love them.
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    You're doing all that at the same time
    as talking to them, and in fact,
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    the laughter is doing a lot
    of that emotional work for you,
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    something that Robert Provine
    has pointed out, as you can see here,
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    and in fact, the reason
    why we were laughing
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    when we heard those
    funny laughs at the start,
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    and why I was laughing
    when I found my parents laughing,
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    is that it's an enormously
    behaviorally contagious effect.
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    You can catch laughter from somebody else,
    and you are more likely to catch laughter
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    off somebody else if you know them.
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    So it's still modulated
    by this social context.
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    You have to put humor to one side,
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    and think about
    the social meaning of laughter,
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    because that's where its origins lie.
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    Now, something I've got very interested in
    is different kinds of laughter,
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    and we have some neurobiological evidence
    about how human beings vocalize
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    that suggests there might be
    two kinds of laughs that we have.
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    So it seems possible that the neurobiology
    for helpless, involuntary laughter,
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    like my parents lying on the floor
    screaming about a silly song,
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    might have a different basis to it
    than some of that more polite
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    social laughter that you encounter,
    which isn't horrible laughter,
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    but it's behavior somebody is doing
    as part of their communicative act to you,
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    part of their interaction with you.
    They are choosing to do this.
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    In our evolution, we have developed
    two different ways of vocalizing.
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    involuntary vocalizations
    are part of an older system
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    than the more voluntary vocalizations
    like the speech I'm doing now.
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    So we might imagine that laughter
    might actually have two different roots.
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    So I've been looking at this
    in more detail.
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    To do this, we've had to make
    recordings of people laughing,
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    and we've just had to do whatever it takes
    to make people laugh,
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    and we got those same people
    to produce more posed, social laughter.
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    So imagine your friend told a joke, and
    you're laughing 'cos you like your friend,
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    but not really because
    the joke's all that.
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    So I'm going to play you
    a couple of those.
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    I want you to tell me if you think
    this laughter is real laughter,
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    or if you think it's posed.
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    So is this involuntary laughter
    or more voluntary laughter?
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    (Audio laughter)
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    What does that sound like to you?
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    Posed? Posed.
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    How about this one?
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    (Audio laughter)
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    (Laughter)
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    I'm the best.
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    (Laughter) (Applause)
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    Not really.
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    No, that was helpless laughter,
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    and in fact, to record that,
    all they had to do was record me
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    watching one of my friends listening
    to something I knew she wants to laugh at,
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    and I just started doing this.
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    Now, what you find is that people
    are good at telling the difference
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    between real and posed laughter.
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    They seem to be different things to us.
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    Interestingly, you see something
    quite similar with chimpanzees.
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    Chimpanzees laugh differently
    if they're being tickled
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    than if they're playing with each other,
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    and we might be seeing
    something like that here,
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    these sort of involuntary laughter,
    tickling laughter,
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    being different from social laughter.
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    They're acoustically very different.
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    The real laughs are longer.
    They're higher in pitch.
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    When you start laughing hard,
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    you start squeezing air out
    from your lungs
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    under much higher pressures
    than you could ever produce voluntarily.
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    So for example, I could never
    pitch my voice that high to sing.
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    And also, as I stay, you start to get
    these sort of contractions
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    and weird whistling sounds,
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    all of which mean that real laughter
    is extremely easy,
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    or feels extremely easy to spot.
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    In contrast, posed laughter,
    we might think it sounds a bit fake.
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    Actually, it's not. It's actually
    an important social cue.
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    We use it a lot, we're choosing
    to laugh in a lot of situations,
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    and it seems to be its own thing.
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    So, for example, you find
    nasality in posed laughter,
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    that kind of "ha ha ha ha ha" sound
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    that you never get, you could not do,
    if you were laughing involuntarily.
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    So they do seem to be genuinely
    these two different sorts of things.
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    We took it into the scanner
    to see how brains respond
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    when you hear laughter.
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    And when you do this,
    this is a really boring experiment.
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    We just played people
    real and posed laughs.
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    We didn't tell them
    it was a study on laughter.
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    We put other sounds in there
    so to distract them,
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    and all they're doing
    is listening to sounds.
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    We don't tell them to do anything.
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    Nonetheless, when you hear real laughter
    and when you hear posed laughter,
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    the brains are responding
    completely differently,
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    significantly differently.
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    What you see in the regions in blue,
    which lies in auditory cortex.
Title:
Why we laugh
Speaker:
Sophie Scott
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