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James Charles, a name so chilling
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that it requires a trigger warning.
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Trigger warning: James Charles.
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You can say a lot of things about
James Charles.
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Most of them are bad.
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Like, really bad.
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But objectively, he is one of the most
well-known
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influencers from the last 10 years.
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And because of how much exposure
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and business success he saw
over the years,
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James Charles is truly somebody who
could have had it all
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if only he wasn't a piece of shit.
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If you're watching this video, odds are
you've heard of James,
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or you've at least heard of his infamy.
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You may have had the petrifying
experience
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of seeing his BBL or hearing him say
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"Hi sisters!"
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This guy's digital footprint has
some of the funniest
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and grossest shit I have ever seen.
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Because as we'll get into, he is a massive
creepo, freako,
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womp womp.
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It is quite a tale.
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So allow me to take you on an Unhinged
James Charles Deepdive.
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James Charles (or James Charles
Dickinson)
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was born on May 3rd, 1999 in Bethlehem,
New York.
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And he is Emily Dickinson's third cousin
twice removed -
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ignore that, it was a lie, I just lied.
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In 2010, at the age of 11, he started his
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very first YouTube channel called
JaysCoding.
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This channel mostly consisted of him
covering songs like
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"Pumped Up Kicks".
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♫ "You better run, better run
faster than my bullet." ♫
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"Before He Cheats" by Carrie Underwood.
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♫ "Carved my name
into his leather seats." ♫
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But most notably, this
"It Will Rain" cover
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where he's wearing this wolf hat.
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♫ "- morphine at my door." ♫
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And although these childhood videos are
wholesome,
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this would be the start
of a very troubling
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pattern of him
singing unprompted.
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Although my personal favorite video
that I found on JaysCoding
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was this six-second upload of just
a image of an eye.
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Like, bro really uploaded an
image to YouTube,
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and that is so of the time.
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But in 2015, he would launch his second
and main channel
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that we know today as James Charles.
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And this is where he started uploading
makeup tutorials, such as
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serpent makeup tutorial and
Snapchat Galaxy makeup tutorial.
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And as you can see, none of these look
particularly good.
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In fact, they're pretty bad,
but I assure you
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everyone's makeup looked
really bad in 2015,
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so that really means nothing I guess.
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But he was gaining a really decent
audience from posting these tutorials.
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But the inciting incident, the
catalyst that would launch
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James Charles' career, happened in
September of 2016.
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And this moment would have irreversible
repercussions on society and the Internet.
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James was 17 years old at this point,
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and he had just taken his senior photos,
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which came out fugly according to him.
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And so he hired the school
photographer to come back
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and let him retake the pictures
with his ring light.
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And as you can see here, his highlight is
definitely going off,
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his brows have a good
Roblox look to them.
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However, where I draw the line is
that man bun.
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What the f**k?
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Anyways, his friend convinces
him to post these
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new glamorous pictures online
and they go extremely viral.
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Like, this picture of James
was being shared
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so much that CoverGirl noticed it.
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And that is how he became the world's
first male CoverGirl.
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Now because this was 2016, it stirred
controversy amongst conservatives.
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And, you know, of course it did
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because it's CoverGirl, not "CoverDong".
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Seriously, though, I found this
old Twitter thread
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where people are just bitching about this
like there's no tomorrow.
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A great example is this one:
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reads tweet.
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There's also this one where
a woman compares
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James being on CoverGirl to a white
person doing blackface.
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Um... Nurse, she's out again!
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Anyways, outisde of these randos making
a stink out of it,
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this opened up a lot of opportunities
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for James.
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I mean, he went on Ellen, I guess that's
not that impressive, though.
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As I mentioned in the Jojo Siwa video, you
could literally fart into a bucket
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and somehow make it on Ellen at this
point in time.
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And as his fame was escalating,
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he did his first-ever fan meet.
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Only 50 people showed up to this event,
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and one of the videos that was taken there
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was turned into a meme because at
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some point James just sat down on the
ground and started singing.
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♫ Bring me a little water now!
Bring me little water, Sylvie!♫
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I don't know what my favorite part about
this meme is. It might be
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the Snapchat caption that says "f**k it up"
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which insinuates that he's doing a good
job singing right now.
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Or it could be the fact that he raises
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his finger up as if he's hitting those
high notes.
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This was, of course, the very first time
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that he was turned into a meme,
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but it's certainly would not be the last.
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This same year, James did a CoverGirl
promotion with Zendaya,
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and oh my God, this has gotta be
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one of the most unintentionally funny
videos I've ever seen.
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So this video that they're doing is a
challenge to see what makeup
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looks they could come up with in the
span of 5 minutes.
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And so they're both in a rush and trying
to showcase these CoverGirl
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products along the way.
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And about 30 seconds in, James gets
befuddled and just starts
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copying Zendaya and then acts like
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everything he's doing was his idea.
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- "I used it on my inner corner."
- "Same."
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(Huh??)
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- "I used this as a base for the blue."
- "Yeah, same."
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And not only this,
the end result is so bad,
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she absolutely ate him up, I can't
believe this video exists.
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These two people should not exist in the
same universe.
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James would soon also start doing collabs
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with massive YouTubers like Tana Mongeau,
Joey Graceffa, and even
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non-YouTubers like Maddie Ziegler.
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However, he would soon find himself in his
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very first controversy, and that is the
"Ebola" tweet.
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On Febuary 16, 2017, James writes:
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reads tweet.
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So obviously this is very out of touch
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and just kind of assumes that Africa is
like a diseased-riddled area,
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and so people were not happy about this.
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And so the very same day he
did his first public apology ever.
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He wrote:
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reads tweet.
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And people definitely still thought James
was racist for, like, a good month
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after this.
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But the discourse got completely
overshadowed by the events of
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March 5th, 2017, which was the birth of
Flashback Mary.
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So what happened was that
James was at an event
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and he had WAY too much
powder on his face,
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and so when they took this picture of him,
it caused a flashback that gave him this,
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like, ghostly, ghoulish, sinister
SCP look to him.
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And the internet was immediately
obsessed with this.
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Like, this is definitely one of the
biggest memes that has hit the Internet.
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Ask anyone, ask your grandma,
ask your
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local pastor, they know
Flashback Mary.
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The main comparison that was being made
to James was of this spider from-
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what is this show called?
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It's called Miss Spider's
Sunny Patch Friends.
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Like, I can't express to you
how many times
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I've seen this image against my will,
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I wish I could permaban it from my brain.
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Something a little disappointing about
this meme, though, is that the
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widespread image of Flashback
Mary is not the real one.
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This is the real one, and I will say, the
flashback is still really bad,
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but whoever edited this picture
just made it 70 times worse.
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An interesting artifact of the time that I
found was this Redbubble page
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that just exclusively sells Flashback Mary
furniture, such as clocks and pillows.
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I really don't understand Redbubble,
people will just sell
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tych-fck-ehchk-ANYTHING there.
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Anyways, though, speaking of James
Charles' foundation, he does not
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know how to match that shit.
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Like, there's entire compilations
of him doing just that.
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And in this video specifically, he
describes himself as having
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warm undertones.
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"GASP. That looks like it could be
such a good match for me,
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everyone is convinced that my skintone
is, like, not warm."
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Girl, you are PINK! You are PINK!
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I think the funniest part about all
of this, though, is that he
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literally has a YouTube video trying,
like, 40 different foundation shades, and
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in the end he still chooses the wrong one.
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Side note, though, another James
Charles-ism is that he chronically misuses
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Facetune, especially in this era.
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And to be fair, he's never hid that he
uses Facetune, but it just looks so bad
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that I don't understand why he continues
to do it. Like, when I see these pictures,
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I get uncanny valley, Russian
Sleep Experiment, creepypasta vibes.
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Moving on, though, we have the "It"
debacle of 2017.
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Now, the It debacle began on September
7th when James tweeted about
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how he was gonna go see It, and
how excited he was about it.
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But literally five minutes into the movie,
he started tweeting about how bad
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it was, which, of course, is just nutty
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because how have you already
decided that
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you don't like the movie, and it's only
been five minutes?
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And, like, why are you even on your phone?
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About thirty minutes later,
James tweets again,
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and this time, he says:
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reading tweet.
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Both of these tweets annoyed people for
obvious reasons.
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Like, he's just been texting the entire
movie.
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It doesn't even sound like he's been
watching it to know if it's bad!
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And so in response to all the people
questioning why he's doing this,
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he writes:
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reads tweet.
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But then,
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Finn Wolfhard replies to one of these
tweets and says:
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reads tweet
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Granted, at this time, I think Finn was
12 or 13 maybe.
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And so James tweets:
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reads tweet.
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Which sounds like he's accepting the
end of this.
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Like, this should be the end of the
conversation.
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But instead, he starts backtracking times
3,000, and he says:
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reads tweet.
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For the next few hours, people on
Twitter would not leave him alone
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about why he was texting in the
movie theater.
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And so he eventually says:
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reads tweet.
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And this dug his grave in even more.
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Because people were like, "What do you
mean 'everyone does it,'
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like, everyone does not do that!"
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Personally, as an AMC Stubs member,
this pains me.
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Follow me on Letterboxd so I can
feel important.
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But this caused people to start doing
polls about whether or not people
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actually texted people during movies.
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And the results were, of course,
overwhelmingly NO.
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No they do not!
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And again, this should've been the end of
the conversation, but he just keeps
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acknowledging it, and he ends up filming
an apology video in the backseat
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of an Uber.
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(James talking:) "I want to personally
apologize to Finn and anybody else
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involved in the making of the movie It."
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And regardless of all of this, a couple
days later, he ended up doing an
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It makeup tutorial.
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(James doing a Pennywise voice:)
"Hiya, sisters! James Charles
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here, and welcome back to my
YouTube channel!"
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Which, by the way, the first six
seconds of this video
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changed my life for the worse, so I'm
gonna make you see this too.
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(dubstep, intense music)
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(scream sound effect)
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In 2018, the "Sister Squad formed
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And this was basically just of long
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squad of these four best friends that
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consisted of... I mentioned Ethan Dolan,
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Grayson Dolan, and of course
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James himself. Now Eathan Dolan / Grayson
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had a huge Youtube channel that they
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have been making videos on since 2014
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And James ended up meeting them in late
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2017 after he left he left a bunch of very
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Questionably, thirsty Tweets on both of
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Their Instagrams. These includes comments
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Such as "Run me over with that
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Motorcycle, daddy". "Choke me with that
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Seatbelt, daddy".
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And last but not least, " Hit me with that
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Stick, daddy".
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On June 9, 2018, the first ever "Sister
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Squad" video was posted and this
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Had a cultural impact like no other
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Squad at the time. I don't care what
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Anyone says. This is the truth.
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The "Sister Squad" was such an
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Immediate success and all their videos
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Were pretty much just them hanging out.
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Each one of the "Sister Squad" videos got
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Around 30 million views a piece.
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And so, they say that people were
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invested.
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In this friend's group dynamic
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'It would be an understatement.
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The most notable dynamics was that of.
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Emma and Grayson because it was heavily
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theorized that they secretly dating while
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fans were constantly speculating them.,
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making entire compilations of their
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interactions. And secondly was the
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dynamic between James and Grayson.
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It was pretty much an open secret that
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James had a crush on Grayson and there's
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entire compilations of him unsuccessfully
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flirting with him. And there's
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definitely some of the incidents were
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preplanned as a joke, but there's
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also many that were pretty much very raw.
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Very real like you can feel the rejection
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in the air like groaning
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this is very important to remember when
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we get to bisister, so just keep this is
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in mind that this group being able to
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make millions and millions of views per
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video and despite the way they seem so
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close in these videos. These two things
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have appeared to cause some turmoil
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because by February 4th, 2019, Emma
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unfollowed all of them and to be fair,
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she did unfollow everyone but like six
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people and posted on her story that she
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had done that for a social media purge.
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But to be honest, it doesn't really make
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sense because if you are doing a social
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media purge I think you still follow your
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closest friends and just not anyone else.
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So it kinda seemed like a convenient, uh,
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excuse. And James Charles's response to
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this was this tweet, "I posted a beautiful
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makeup look today but you wouldn't know"
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In November of 2018, James released his
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first ever makeup pallet. And this, of
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course, was James X Morphe. Now, let me
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tell you, this pallet was extremely
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popular at the time. Everyone that I
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knew had this, I had this, and it was just
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generally really well recieved. So this
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new level of entrepreneurship really
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brought him up a threshold of passionate
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passionate fans. Like he did an appearance
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at a Morphe store in Birmingham and
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8,000 people showed up to the mall to see
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him and it literally caused gridlock
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outside of the store, like people were
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trapped in their cars. That is how
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popular he was at the time. However, it
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wouldn't be long until James found himself
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in another controversy. Also, oh my god, I
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almost forgot to mention that he was
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singing unprompted in front of this Morphe
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as well.
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singing
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The 2019 Sisters Tour. So James was doing
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a tour across the country and the most
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expensive ticket that you could buy to see
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him was $500. Which, a lot of people
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were quick to call a scam. And he received
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a ton of backlash for this. Personally, I
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don't think this was a scam because you
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were going to get what you paid for. Like,
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it says right here what's included with
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this. It says, "Exclusive hangout with
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James Charles and the other Sister VIPS.
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One on one photo with James Charles.
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Exclusive Sisters VIP goodie bag. And
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exclusive autograph tour laminate. Front
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row seats and early access to merchandise
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vendors". Okay, that last one is crazy.
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Like, if your spending $500, I think you
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should get some free merch. In no way do I
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feel like this is worth $500 and like, in
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my perspective, I would feel like an
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asshole to hide a meet and greet with me
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behind a $500 paywall. However, if you
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really wanted to have all that stuff and
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spend $500, that is your business. James
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did say that he would try to talk to his
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team about lowering the prices, but they
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did remain the same. And in case your
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wondering what the luxury VIP James
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Charles experience was like, there's a
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video on YouTube titled, "I PAID $500
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TO SING WITH JAMES CHARLES" and it's him
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surrounded by a huge group of girls
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singing Listen by Beyonce very poorly.
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singing
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A genuine perk I see for anyone who went
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on this tour though, was that they got to
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witness the New Rules kick. In real time.
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video plays
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This became a meme just purely out of
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being the perfect storm. People just found
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out that some tickets to the tour cost
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$500 and then they see this. Poor
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singing and poor dancing. And that third
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miscellaneous kick, muah.
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Welcome back! Now we're entering the calm
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before the storm and what I mean by that
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is that we are on the cusp of dramageddon
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This is literally April 2019 and no one
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had a single clue that the biggest drama
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of the internet would ever see what about
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to occur. Now, let me introduce to the
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central characters of the dramageddon.
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Ok, so here we have Tati Westbrook. She
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was a beauty guru as well as James'
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mentor and close friend. He even referred
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to her as a mother figure. As you can see
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here, this is James doing Tati's wedding
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makeup like that's how like this was how
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close they were and prior to these
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coming events, Tati had started her own
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supplement company in 2018 called Halo
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Beauty, and they basically sold like hair
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vitamins and skin vitamins, hoopla hoopla.
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Enter Jeffree Star. If you don't know who
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Jeffree Star is, he's probably in the top
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10 worst people on the internet and to
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fully explain why that is that would
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require like a whole three hour video.
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inaudible
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he has a very successful makeup company
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called "Jeffree Star Cosmetics" and his
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channel at this time was massive in the
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beauty community. However, not
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as massive as James' and side note,
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in 2024 he lives on a farm and sells yak
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meat. So, there's that. Our last big
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dramageddon figure is Shane Dodsen.
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Shane is probably also on that top 10 list
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of worse people online. Come to think of
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it, James is too, but we will cross that
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bridge when we get there. What is
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important to know now though, is that in
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landscape of 2019 YouTube, for some reason
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Jane Dodsen, like a respected
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documentarian, and he has just done a
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documentary series about Jeffree Star.
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Looking back on it, these videos were not
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good and 60% of them were just like
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filler but each and every one of them got
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around 30 million views. With that it
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mind, this brings us to Coachella 2019.
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This is where is all kicks off dude.
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During this time, James was "seeing" an
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influencer named Gage Gomez. "Seeing" it
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in air quotes because it was less of an
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actual relationship and more of actual
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like bicurious experimental time on Gage's
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end, but they were photographed at this
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Coachella multiple times, which made fans
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start to speculate that James had a
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boyfriend. And so, a lot of people began
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to tweet James about this and he actually
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responded to one of these tweets saying
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something along the lines of "No. I'm
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sadly still single. I was manipulated by
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a conman." I looked everywhere for this
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tweet and read it and writing down
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every thing it said at this point but
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can't find it anymore. So, sources that
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trust me. James just subtweeted
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that Gage, several times over the
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Coachella weekend, including this one
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which says, "I'm sitting sobbing in my
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hotel room at 8 am and have to be on set
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in an hour. This is no one's fault but
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my own because my dumbass continues to
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go for the same type of insecure cute
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boys and it gets me hurt, every single
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time. I was started fucking to hate
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myself". Tensions are rising. Things are
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bubbling up, ok. And the next day of the
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festival, James ended up getting mobbed
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by fans because for some reason he didn't
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have like a VIP ticket which would have
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let him in like exclusive spaces to not
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be around so many fans. And so, all these
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people are running up on him right. He is
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like, holy shit, what do I do? And this
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led him to text his friend and fellow
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beauty guru, Nikita Dragon. And he asked
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her for help about the sicky situation.
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And so, she connects him to the Sugarbear
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Hair Team, because they're had their
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own VIP tent space, and they were going
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to let James in and in exchange for him
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doing just one Sugarbear Hair
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ad on his Instagram story and so,
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with no other choice, he signs the
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contract and gets in that tent. But let
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it be known that Sugarbear Hair was a
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very popular was a very popular vitamin
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brand as in Beauty Vitamins, as in for
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your skin and face. A.K.A. a direct
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competitor to Tati Westbrook's
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brand "Halo Beauty" Dramageddon arrived!
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Her story in the making. On April 22,
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James posted his contraction obligated ad
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on Instagram. Notably, as you can see
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here, he's actually promoting their sleep
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gummies, not their skin or hair ones. But
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he does this and then he gets on a plane
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to Australia. For what I am about to say
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next, at this point in time Tati
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Westbrook is 37 years old and James was
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only 19. By the time James landed in
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Australia, Tati had already posted
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multiple stories of her crying and
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saying she feels so betrayed by a close
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friend and she had been taken advantage
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by somebody she thought she can trust and
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she helped so much and it was very
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obvious, like that she was talking about
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James. Like he literally just posted that
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Sugarbear Hair ad so, people added two
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plus two together so unbeknownst to James,
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thousands and thousands of people had
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begun adding him on Twitter, messaging
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him on Instagram. People he knew were
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sending him messages being like what's
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going on with you and Tati. And so, he
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gets off the plane, right. He sees this.
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He tries to call Tati. He tries to text
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her. He tries to call her husband.
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Neither of them answers but Tati just
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continues to post on Instagram. So, he
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decides to just make a public
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apology post. So the apology read," I want
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to publicly apologize to my close friend
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Tati. She has been like a mother to me
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since before my first days in this
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industry and has given me more love so
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important resources and advice that I
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could ever ask for. This weekend I did an
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Instagram story for sleep vitamins that
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I have been taking because the brand helps
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me with security when the crowd around me
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at Coachella became unsafe. I did not
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accept any money for the post. As most
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of you know, Tati has a vitamin brand
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which I take on a daily basis but at the
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moment, I did not think about the
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competition, which was a major oversight.
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I've supported Tati both online and off
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like she has done for me and I am
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devastated that I hurt somebody that I
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truly love and have endless respect for".
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I think the mature thing for 37-year-old
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Tati to do after seeing this would be to
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just talk to him, but instead she just
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continued ignoring him and posting and
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posting about this situation and crying
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online. And so, a few days later on May 4,
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2019, Gabriel Zamora, another beauty guru,
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posted this video titled "Makeup and
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Opinions". And during this video, he
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indirectly talks about the drama going on
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between Tati and James, saying that it's
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stupid that basically, Tati keeps like
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sub tweeting about him but won't
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actually say what's going on or just talk
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to him and he's honestly so right, like
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this 37-year-old woman just implying that
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her 19-year-old colleague has done
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something awful for days on end but then
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to divulge more information and so
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Gabriel concludes this segment of the
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video by saying "Girl, go sit on the
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internet and talk about it then". And
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those words would unknowingly be the
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final straw, the final catalyst for the
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video that we all know today as the
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"Bi sister". "Bi sister" is one of the
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most iconic YouTube videos of all time.
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Seriously, the cultural impact of this
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cannot be minimized. Cannot be silenced.
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I still remember where I was when "Bi
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Sister" happened. It was a cold, windy
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day. On May 10th, 2019, when Tati decided
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that she needed to spill the tea "on
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James' Charles". This video is insane
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from start gulp to finished. It begins
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Gabriel Zamora's famous last words, "Girl,
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go talk about it on the internet then".
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"If you are going to go on the internet
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and cry, heavily implied that there is
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a horrible human being and everybody can
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get what it is. Girl, sit on it and talk
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about it then".
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Imagine being the person that made this
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happened. But there were three major
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claims that Tati makes in this video
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against James Charles and let's just
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tackle them bullet point by bullet point.
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First and foremost, she claims that James
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purposefully sabotaged her vitamin gummy
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business by reorchestrating the Sugarbear
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contract. Two, by James' obnoxious and
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talks about and bawls.
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Three, and the most serious one, is that
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he tries to manipulate straight men. But
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let's start off with the vitamins. Tati
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lists multiple ways in which she
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supported James over the years by pouring
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over contracts for him, setting up his
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Google accent by him even after he tweeted
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about Ebola. But despite all this stuff
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that she's given him, she claims James
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gave her no warning before he posted his
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Sugarbear Hair ad, and also that he
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actually made the whole Coachella security
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thing up like he wasn't getting bombarded
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by fans or anything. He just already
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planned to do the Sugarbear Hair ad. Her
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reasoning is that there is no way that a
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company would ever just go out of their
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way to give you a contract just like that.
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And so, he has to be like and even if
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there was a security problem.
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Even if he was getting rushed by fans, he
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should of simply walked away.
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You should have walked away. You should
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have held on to your integrity.
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You're phony. I know that now.
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These are all really interesting things
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to say because at the high of James' fame,
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I would think that a lot of companies
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might want to leap at the opportunity to
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work with him. I also kind of love it when.
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I am kind of gagged by the way that she
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just says "walk away from people mobbing
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you."
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A lot of people are like were like what
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is he supposed to do. It's dangerous.
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Like leave. Go home.
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Why are you drowning? Just breathe.
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Why are you getting cyberbullying?
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Walk away from the computer. She goes on
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to blame him for potentially losing
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thousands and thousands of dollars due
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to his Instagram ad. Because nobody is
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going to buy two different brands of hair
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gummies.
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It's not a palette. It's not something
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that people buy multiples of.
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Then she then contradicts herself by
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saying that she doesn't needs ads. She
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doesn't want ads and her product is
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selling like hotcakes
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We're selling like hotcakes. Like I don't
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need to at this point. It seems like I
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am going on about this first bullet point
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for a while. It's because the majority of
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the video is actually about the gummy
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vitamins. She claims that James said
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he couldn't advertise for halo beauty on
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his channel because he had too many young
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fans watching and he didn't want to like
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market them supplements and then so, she's
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like "But here you are on your Instagram
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story, selling sleep pills to kids which
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is whoa That's reached. Mam, these are
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melatonin gummies.
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Moving on to the fucking balls and
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straight allegation section.
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Unfortunately, those two things are
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interlinked in this video. So that's why
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roping them together. That is why I'm not
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taking the last one seriously. It's that
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Tati has... Tati has done this to me.
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Tati claims that James tried to manipulate
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a waiter at her birthday dinner into
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thinking he was guy. She also claims that
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he was saying very loudly explicit things
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that he wanted to do to him.
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But what was most shocking to her was the
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fact that he was willing to talk about
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all this in front of her family and his
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dumb parents which is why we get the
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iconic sucking c*** line.
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Sucking and dick and cock. Like
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there is a time and you did it at my
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birthday dinner.
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She claims she told James to leave the
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waiter alone and that he was straight.
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And in response he said it doesn't
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matter. I'm famous. She concludes the
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video with talking about some other
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vague instances of James trying to
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manipulate straight men and James said
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the only reason why she's posting this
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is because it's a last ditch effort to get
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through to him so that he will stop
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trying to manipulate and seduce these
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straight men. Okay, let me just do a
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quick claimer here. I'm going to be
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treating the bi-sister allegations as
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their own separate thing. Not really
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trying to connect them to further
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allegations because I feel like that will
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get very crazy and twisted and that is
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not what I want because a lot of
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bisister, as you will see, gets debunked.
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Were as in the future. there are actual
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victims that James like has deceits
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in and like that world intermixing out of
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respect. And so, with that in mind, we
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need to talk a little bit more about the
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elephant in the room with bi-sister and
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that is that Tati spent the majority of
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video talking about her beef with James,
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with the vitamins, but then in the end
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claims that she making this video because
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of the sexual allegations. Including , but
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not limited to sexual harrassment
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of the waiter at the restaurant, also
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just have to mention it. I don't know
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if you noticed this but the Jeffree's
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Star Lipsticks but the pudding in the
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background of this video. Oh My God!
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Move over classic literature writers.
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That is the best foreshadowing I've ever
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seen. Regardless, the immediate public
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response to bi-sister was categorismic.
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The video quickly accumulated 30 million
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views and a trend sparked within the hour
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burning or destroying your James'
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murphy palace. There are many of these
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compilations. This one alone is 10 minutes
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straight of people just destroying their
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James' murphy palatte. James Charles'
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over party was tranding on Twitter.
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My personal memory of this is
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going on Snapchat and seeing on
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one of my friend's stories that there was
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a line out the door at my local
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other girls were just returning the
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James' palette. I really, really wish I
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could have found footage of that because
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it contributes to a bigger picture here
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and that is, I think, everybody had a
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little bit of mass hysteria with this
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because I have just never seen people
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react in the way people have reacted
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to bi-sister. Like people have done other
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alleged things that are of equivalent or
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worse and we have not seen something like this
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happen. Anyways, within all this havoc,
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later that night James post an apology
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video simply titled "Tati". This is a nine
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minute video but I am willing to bet the
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actual amount of talking in it is more so
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around like four because within it,
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James is very clearly jetlagged and
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tired like he's whispering. He's talking
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really slow.
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I am not Tati.
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Not only that, he only apologizes
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for disrespecting Tati. He doesn't
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confirm or deny any other allegations. he
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just needs to be more careful of his
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relationships in the future in the
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public eye. And so, posts and to say that
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people um didn't receive it well would be
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a flub. it would be a lil flub.
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As soon as video dropped, a ton of
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channels began to live
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streaming. The live sub count of James
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Charles losing five thousands and
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thousands of subscribers meanwhile,
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showing Tati gaining subs. I'm not joking
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with you guys when I say, there was
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probably like 300 of these channels all
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active at once and in the live chat people
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were goading them on like a sports event
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before terminally online makeup girl look
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face. At least partially of these
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live sub trackers, James Charles would
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become the first Youtuber to lose one
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million subscribers in one day. There were
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a ton of memes about the Tati apology
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video floating around and let's just
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say all of the breathing in it did not
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help the case.
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*breathing
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Meanwhile, a ton of people started chiming
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in about the situation on Twitter and
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even just kind of making things up to
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insert themselves into the conversation
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because they were do trendy.
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For example, the singer Zara Larson posted
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this tweet that said
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"I'm cackling cause he hit up my
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boyfriend in the dms several times
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knowing damn well he's straight".
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She would later go on to apologize for
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that because she didn't realize that he
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had only sent her boyfriend one message.
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There was also some person making the
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claim that in high school, James had
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catfished the entire football team just
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to trick them into sending him d*** pics,
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which I mean, it's a wild claim.
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I'm not saying impossible but it's
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f******* wild, I'll say that.
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At this point, people also mass
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unfollowing James on Instagram, as well,
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and some of the people unfollowed him
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include people like the Kardashians,
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Demi Lavato, Ariana Grande....
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But most importantly to all of this, is
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the fact that every single one of the
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members of the sister squad unfollowed
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him which affectively ended it.
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The next day, May 14th, Gage Gomez
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uploads a video titled " My first
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YouTube video" and in it he talks about
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how James having sub tweeted him had
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actually, caused a shit ton of his fans to
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his page and start threatening him and
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harassing him. He also says that James
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realized that these sub tweets were wrong
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because he ended up apologizing to him
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and deleting them, but essentially he just
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wanted to clear his name out of this.
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Confusingly though, shortly after this
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video was posted he went on a Instagram
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live stream and when somebody asked him
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if he was single he said that he had just
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been dumped and seemed to imply that
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it was either James or related to James
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in some way.
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Someone by the little name of, um
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I'm not gonna say it. It starts with a J.
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What makes this even more convulated to
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is that I found out on one of the days
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that James was at Coachella, he went to
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brunch with this guy named DIllon Gike
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I think and the *gasp it all is, is that
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this person Dillon is Gage's friend and
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speculated more than friend. So there's
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that interesting thing. Then Dillon would
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comment on Gage's page calling clout
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chaser. I don't know what kind of friend
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dynamics or anything more happening here,
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but it made me very confused about Gage's
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stance in all of this. Shortly after that
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live stream though Gage would post
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another video that just made me even more
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confused because in this video he said
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that James tried to manipulate him to
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thinking he was gay, even after telling
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that he was straight multiple times but
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James kept pursuing him. I have
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nothing more to say about this video even
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though I totally believe it could have
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happened but also, I am confused.
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*Popping noise
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Alrighty, Here we are.
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I am just a little bit lost in it all.
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Let's move on.
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While all this is going on, Ian Jeffree,
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A.K.A. James' little brother tweets out
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" Why does everyone act so tough over the
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internet".
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And Jeffree Star chimes in within A.K.
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47 for no reason he says
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"Why is your brother a predator?? Why'd
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you really move back to NYC? Exactly.
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Shut the f*** up".
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For context, I guess Ian had moved back
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to New York City to be with their parents
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recently, but saying this to a 17-year-old
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that probably has no idea what you are
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talking about. It's so Jeffree Star. Like,
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at least he stays on brand like he just
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continues to be a bad person.
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But Jeffree ended up continuing he said,
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"There is a reason why I haven't seen him
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since Tati's birthday in February. He is a
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danger to society. Everything that Tati
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said is 100% true.
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On the same day as these tweets, Sam,
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the waiter from Tati's birthday party.
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"Sucking a dick and cock"
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Posted a video explaining his side of the
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story and basically, Sam explains that
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James had asked another one of the waiters
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for his number and if he would was single.
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He also complimented him on the way
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that he looked. Since he didn't get his
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number, he left the restaurant and that
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was that but later that night, Sam's
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sister convinced him to dm James and talk
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to him again and so, he did and they
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started talking. James apologizes for
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flirting with him. At this point he
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actually found it flattering.
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The conversation escalated until James
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invited him to his hotel room, and since
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Sam says he is bicurious he went to
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go meet up with him. He says
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they ended up making out for around
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an hour at the hotel and that James'
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is the worst kind of kisser he's ever had.
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It's just...
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If I am being honest, he is the worst
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kisser I've ever kissed. Way too much
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tongue. He then goes on to say that James
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begged him to stay in the hotel with him
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but because he did not enjoy the kissing,
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he decided to leave anyways. And now the
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following week, James offered to fly Sam
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out to California for his birthday, but
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Sam told him that he figured out that he
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was pretty much straight so it wouldn't be
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right for him to accept the invitation. At
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which point James became upset and told
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him that he was not straight and that
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he hoped that he would figure that out
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sooner than later. The TLDR at the end of
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this video is that the last draw for Sam
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to cut contact off with James was finding
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out he was also talking to Gage at the
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same time meaning that he thought that
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he was playing two straight guys at once.
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On May 13th, Nikita Dragon jumps back into
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Dramageddon and tweets out strange shots
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between her and James Charles. She's
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trying to back him up, trying to be like
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"See, it really did happen guys",
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like he was getting bombarded at Coachella
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but this really only made things worse,
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because after Tati's video, everyone
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really believed that James had reached
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out to Sugarbear Hair in a pre-planned
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effort, not to mention that she didn't
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bring up the straight boy allegations so
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people were really clowning on her for
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this. She posted a YouTube video the
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following day titled "What really
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happened" and this made plenty of fans
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click on the video expecting her to
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talk about James and Tati situation
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because, of course, what else could this
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be about and, mind you, I haven't actually
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watched this video completely, scrubbed
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from the internet. Cannot find it
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anywhere. But apparently instead of
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addressing anything relevant, she just
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makes a general statement about mean
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comments and then plugs her beauty brand
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for the last, like five minutes. Which
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goes to show how much people
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were capitalizing off this beef. I mean
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Nikita Dragon was literally just there at
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Coachella with James. She could have said
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something about the subject but
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she was like I'm gonna get into this with
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my Dragon Beauty brand. This same night,
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Jeffree Star goes out on Snapchat and
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starts talking about how he has crazy
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receipts on James and he's going to be
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exposing him very soon and I have to say
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this is probably my least favorite thing
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that Jeffrey does all the time is that I
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feel like actually does have crazy
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blackmail against people but he only ever
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uses it for self-interest, Like he's like
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he has something insane like crazy
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proof that James Charles has done
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something beyond the pale that we don't
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even know about yet. The only way
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he would leak it is if it was in his
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own benefit,
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On May 17th, Tati Westbrook post another
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video addressing this whole situation
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called "Why I did it" and for some reason
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this video hasn't been archived.
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I was only able to watch someone else's
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reaction of it but basically gist that I
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got was this was just her doubling down on
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what she has said previously, only now she
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wishes people wouldn't pick sides on what
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between her and James.
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But little did everyone know that that
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the next day on May 18th, James would
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upload "No More Lies", which is probably
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the internet's biggest uno reverse.
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Which nobody claims in bisister and so
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many debunkinings and not debunkinings
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happening in "No More Lies".
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We are just going to take it category by
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category again. No More claims state
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of claim. Firstly, she said the ad was
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preorchestrated. It was that Jamas talked
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to the Sugarbear hair team on the grounds
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at Coachella, Two, James didn't give her
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any warning before he put up the ad.
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He only says something after which was not
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the case. He had screenshots of the text
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message where he warned her in advance
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and to which she replied "I'm so hurt"
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and he gave a lengthy apology.
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Three, she said James said he wouldn't
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talk about Halo Beauty on social media or
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his channel because he didn't want to
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promote supplements to young kids.
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This is a really weird and strange lie.
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Like he promoted Halo Beauty multiple
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times and across his social media pages.
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So, I am trying to understand Tati, I am
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trying why to lie about maniscule things.
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Another one of Tati's claims was that
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James had been using his power, influence
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and money in order to extort sexual
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favors to people to manipulate them and J
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James admits that he is a 19-year-old
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virgin and that isn't the case because he
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is not fuckin but I will say this. At
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12:40 in this video he says
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"We'll never use my fame, money, or
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power to manipulate or get any sexual
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actions from a guy",
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Which did not age well. When it comes to
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this allegation in the James Charles
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timeline, I have a little bit of a
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question mark over it because I am not
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sure how much damage he had done at age
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19. But from what we know about Gage and
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Sam, the waiter, there were some strange
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tendencies already at play.
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Another claim Tati had was at her birthday
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dinner she had tried to tell James the
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waiter was straight and to leave him alone
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He replied saying it doesn't matter. I'm
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so famous, right? Well , it turns out
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that was actually a lie as well, because
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there are screenshots of James and all
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of his friends including Tati making the
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same joke where they say "We're so famous"
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like definitely it was not supposed to be
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a serious thing. Again, really
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interesting. I don't understand the
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choices to lie about something so petty,
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especially when you are overall message
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was supposed to be about something as
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serious as like sexual misconduct
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allegations. And speaking of Sam, the
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waiter, James has screenshots of their
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conversations as well. And in these
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screenshots you can clearly see that
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Same had actually told him straight up
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that he was bisexual. So this is where it
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gets kind of interesting cause Sam didn't
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mentioned this in his side of the story.
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After they agreed to stop their
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relationship, James had blocked him.
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And after this, Sam had used his friend's
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phone to DM James from his account and
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blocked and why he actually figured out
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that he was full gay so that he could get
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him on a FaceTime call and record him.
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Instead of talking to James about his gay
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revelation, he asked James if he was
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talking to Gage at the same time that they
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were talking. At this point, Sam told
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James that he wasn't actually gay. He was
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just trying to get him on this phone call
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and so James hung up. But then, after the
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call, Sam text him that he basically
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confirmed bi, which it why in Sam's video
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you saw the screenshot of James saying
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that you are not straight, You are not
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ever going to be straight. The sooner you
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figure that out the better, etc. Now
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outside of Tati's allegations, Jeffree
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Star had personally been texted James
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that he had a bunch a dirt on him and
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that he was gonna expose him for various
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things sooner or later, And so, at this
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point in "No More Lies", we start to
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address that. And so Jeffree's claims are
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as follows: Number one: that James has
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been talking shit about him. Number two:
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that James had to try to Jeffree's
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brother in law to like him and sent him
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unsolicited, inappropriate pictures. And
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thirdly, James trapped Sam the the waiter
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in his hotel and that they were all gonna
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get together and film a video about how
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that happened and expose. Lastly, and
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this is the craziest one that he had tried
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to touch and molest Grayson Dolan in his
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sleep and made him uncomfortable for
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months. James' rebuttal to these claims
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were that he had only talked to Jeffree's
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brother-in-law a handful of times and
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it was nothing inappropriate. And next,
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the trapping Sam in the hotel room thing
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we know is not true because Sam. himself,
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said so. And then finally, the rebuttal
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for the most serious and crazy allegation
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is that this is simply not true and that
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the rejection jokes that was in the
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sister's squad videos were pretty much
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all staged. James also claims that the
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Dolan twins were among the first to call
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him and make sure he was alright and
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during the initial bisister of the
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dramageddon of it all. There weren't any
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receipts for that. We don't really know
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what happened between them and neither
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of the Dolan twins ever refollowed James,
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so there is that as well. We'll talk a
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little bit more about the Dolans later
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on. But all in all, "No More Lies"
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changed the YouTube landscape for weeks
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and flipped the entire situation on it's
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head. Like, never in my life have I seen
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people switch up this fast before. And
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despite every body being this initially
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being on Tati's side in all of this,
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right after this video dropped, his
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subscriber account rise again and
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meanwhile, Tati's began to fall. Speaking
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of Tati, her immediate reponse to "No More
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Lies" was to get on Twitter and say
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things like this:
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I have left town on a digital break to
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heal and pray for healing on all sides. My
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family made me aware on what was just
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posted and I am disappointed ro see
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it littered with so many lies and half
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truths. I stand by my videos. Do not twist
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my words to what they are not, hear the
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message.
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Dudes, can I be totally honest with you
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guys right now? The way Tati speaks
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like she's the Buddhist monk pisses me
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off! She also posted a couple of
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other Tweets but they basicaaly said the
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same exact thing like, "Praying on all
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sides", "Peace and love" da ba duh
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Then she goes on to like a novel length
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post and the TLDR that I give you says:
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"I spent all the last few years building
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up a career on honesty, integrity and
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truth. But let me tell you guys that
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Tati is a makeup reviewer. She basically
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says things like "I hope that our
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community is somehow strengthened from
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all this madness and that we will all
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strive to hold ourselves and each other
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to a higher standard".
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Girl, what?!? Jeffree Star also
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immediately got on Twitter and said:
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"Everyone keeps asking me for receipts...
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I have so much to say and some really sad
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and disgusting things to show you guys.
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James Charles tried to mass manipulate
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all of you today. When I show you
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the proof and why I tweeted
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the tweet about him, you'll understand"
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and get this. Get this! Tati deletes Bye
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Sister after just typing up novels about
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how she said she said what she said and
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she stands by it, And she is praying for
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everyone on all sides. I hope the
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community gets stronger out of this.
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Like she can't claim that this was for the
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betterment of society in and then
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take it down. She then took like a week
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and a half off of YouTube and returned
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video called "I'm Back" and it's literally
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just a makeup tutorial, She just pretends
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like none of that even happened. And as
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you can see here, the audience was just
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really confused by this, The top comment
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literally "Tati, I stand by everything I
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said". Also,, Tati deletes video a day
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after the Tati video. Sam, the waiter,
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returns to the internet with a new
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video titled "I'm sorry James Charles".
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In it, he says that his friends and his
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family pressured him to continue talking
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to James and even typed out some of the
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messages to James pretending to be Sam.
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He also says that they hold him to be
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just pretend to be gay and to date James
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to get all the opportunities that would
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come with that.
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*inaudible
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James returned to YouTube in a very
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pleasant audience and a very different
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internet compared to a just a few short
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weeks a go. By all standards, Tati's video
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should have been that final nail
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in the coffin and impossible to come
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back from, but there he was an amazing
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comeback story at the time.
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In November of 2019, Tati was still
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trying to fully ignore what happened and
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move on despite on not saying anything
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and then she wants to make a brand
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called Tati Beaity and spoiler alert, both
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Tati Beauty and Halo Beauty would not
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survive the upcoming pandemic.
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And despite everything that Jeffree had
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said about James being a disgusting
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monster and how he had all these receipts.
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He was ready to expose him. By March of
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2020, he had done a full 180 and even
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left us a supported comment on one of
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James' post. I mean this is Jeffree Star
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we are talking about so it isn't that
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surprising. Jeffree Star, very lore heavy,
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evil man. Even then, Jeffree then posted
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a video title "Never Doing This Again"
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and I know just from that title you are
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thinking, "What, what is he never going
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to do again?" In this video he basically
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says, "Just because I said that I hate
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James Charles and I want him to die
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he's disgusting, doesn't mean I hate
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James Charles."
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Because I said those things, that does
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that not mean that I hate James Charles.
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But my personal favorite part of this
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video is when he says there's no hate in
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this heart..
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There is no actual hate in this heart.
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He also says that he's not going to give
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the people what they want.
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He's not going to come out with receipts
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and candel anyone today.
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They want me to open up my phone and
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expect me to close it all.
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He basically says that he would being
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manipulated by James and being fed by
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James that wasn't neccessarily true.
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There are people telling me a lot of stuff
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The video ends by him saying that he's
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done with the tea and he's done with the
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drama. He would then precede to have to
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and the Tati and drama for the next like
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four years. And something important to
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note is that during this time, both
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Jeffree and Shane Dodsan were pretty much
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PR nightmares and there was both trying
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to like quickly clean up and do a little
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damage control and fans found resurfaced
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images and videos of them doing various
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problematic things. And, imagine that as
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Jeffree Star's