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Sexual diversity in nature: Joan Roughgarden at TEDxAmazonia

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    Thank you very much!
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    I'm Joan Roughgarden
    and I'm a biologist,
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    and I'm here to talk about the evolution
    of gender and sexuality.
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    And, the reason I'm doing this is
    that I attended my first Gay Pride Parade
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    in San Francisco
    about 12 years ago,
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    and when I was there I noticed
    this huge number of people
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    all of whom, biology said
    were somehow defective.
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    I thought that maybe it's not the people
    that are defective,
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    but is biology that's defective.
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    And, that began an investigation
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    into the extent of variation
    in gender and sexuality
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    which appeared in Evolution's Rainbow
    the first of the two books
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    that are on the screen here.
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    Now, the issue
    from a biologist point of view
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    with the diversity
    in gender and sexuality
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    is that it leads to challenges in what
    we teach in our ordinary curriculum.
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    And, this is a very unpleasant
    development,
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    so the existence of gender
    and sexuality variation is problematic
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    for biology and as you know,
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    it's also problematic
    in the political sector
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    and the religious sector as well.
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    Now, for biology specifically,
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    the problem concerns
    an area of evolution
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    called Darwin's Sexual Selection Theory.
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    And I'll tell you what that's about
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    and then show you
    that it's pretty obviously incorrect.
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    The first proposition
    that Darwin utters is that
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    "Males of almost all animals
    have stronger passions than females"
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    so, we have the phrase 'passionate male'
    tracing back to Darwin.
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    And, furthermore,
    he says that the female,
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    with the rarest of exceptions,
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    is less eager than the male,
    she is coy.
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    So we have the phrase 'coy female'.
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    And, in today's jargon 'passionate male'
    is replaced with 'promiscuous male'
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    and 'coy female'
    with 'constrained female'.
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    And the third premise from Darwin
    is the most problematic.
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    It pertains to characters
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    like the peacock's tail
    and the antler on a deer,
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    and it is that females...
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    And so Darwin was asking
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    why does the peacock have the tail
    and does the deer have the antler?
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    And his answer
    is that females choose mates
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    who are more attractive,
    vigorous and well-armed,
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    just as men can give beauty
    to his male [unclear].
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    So, he's invisioning that females
    are breeding males
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    to have the traits that they have.
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    Now, why, you might ask,
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    would females be chosing
    males with ornaments?
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    The idea is that the females
    have expensive eggs.
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    And the males, on the other hand,
    have cheap sperm
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    and so males are capable
    in principle of ranging far and wide
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    inseminating anything
    they come accross.
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    And females are necessarily obligated
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    to defend
    their expensive investment in eggs.
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    Therefore, the female is forced
    to be coy and choosy,
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    and the male
    passionate or promiscuous.
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    And this is the party line
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    that's currently taught
    in biology curricula worldwide.
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    It's a nice story,
    in a sense, at least it's a story.
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    But the question is whether it's true.
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    And let me show you some examples
    of diversity in gender and sexuality
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    that make these propositions
    almost useless.
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    And one thing I need to emphasize
    is that the two intial premises
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    the passionate male
    and the coy female,
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    are asserted as empirical generalizations.
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    So, if you go outside and you pick up
    a random bird or a random butterfly,
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    or any organism at random,
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    the male is supposed to be passionate
    and the female coy,
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    with very, very rare exceptions.
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    And it will be obvious that the exceptions
    are far from rare.
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    The first issue is that the assignement
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    into a sex, as male or female,
    is neither stable nor exclusive.
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    If you go diving on a coral reef,
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    about a third of the species
    that you see there
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    consist of individuals
    who are both sexes at the same time.
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    Or at different times during their life.
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    So, in the case of these species
    right here,
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    the individuals change from female
    to male, that is a kind of wrasse.
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    In the case of this species right here
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    they change from a male to female.
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    And as I say, 30% of the species,
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    if you simply go snorkeling
    on a coral reef,
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    you see this all around you.
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    And it's just simply not true
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    that the categories of males and females
    are stable or comprehensive.
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    Now, another important issue is called
    'Sex-Role Reversal' by biologists.
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    And this pertains to males
    who do all the parental care
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    and females
    who have to hustle around
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    and find a male
    who is interested in them.
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    And the popular examples
    of this are the seahorses.
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    Now, in fish, the parental care
    is usually provided by the male.
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    And in birds,
    it's about 50/50 male and female
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    and in mammals
    is usually initially by the female.
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    But in fish, the style of parental care
    varies from species
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    and in many cases the males
    will glue the eggs to their tummy.
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    And that is true of... darn!
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    That's true of this species
    in the middle here which is a pipefish.
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    Now, the seahorses
    are related to pipefish
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    in that they have
    a big skin-flap on their tummy
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    and the females deposit eggs
    into the males' tummy.
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    So the males become,
    in a sense, pregnant.
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    So, this is a male seahorse
    receiving eggs from that female.
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    And what happens in this situation
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    is that you can get more females
    hanging around
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    looking for males to receive their eggs,
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    and in that situation then
    the males are in the position to decide
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    what female they want to allow
    to deposit eggs in their skin-flap.
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    So this is the exactly the reverse
    of the Darwinian story
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    that it's females
    who are choosing males,
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    here it's males
    who are choosing females.
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    Now, that shows that the size of the sperm
    or the egg can't be important
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    or definitive in determining
    the sex-role of the animal.
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    Because male seahorses
    make tiny sperm
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    but yet they are nonetheless the ones
    who wind up doing all the parental care.
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    In many species
    there are several genders of males.
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    In this species called the ruff
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    the one on the left
    is a male with a black collar around it
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    the one at the top has a white collar,
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    and the one on the far right
    has no collar.
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    Now, the black colored males,
    at the time of mating,
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    go into an area which is called a 'lek'
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    which is basically
    a red light district of males.
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    And, when the females
    are foraging by themselves
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    and they want some sex,
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    they just go and fly over to the lek
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    where all the black colored males
    are hanging out
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    and then the males try to attract them
    into mating with them.
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    But the plot thickens,
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    because this white colored male
    at the top,
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    hangs out with the females
    for a little while and gets to know them,
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    and then he leaves those females
    before they approach the lek
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    and he goes to the lek
    where the black colored males are,
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    the black colored males court him
    and ask him to join them.
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    So, when the females arrive
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    they find some territories
    with two colors, two styles of males,
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    and the females prefer to mate
    with the pair of males of the two colors
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    rather than with the males
    with one color by itself.
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    And, I conjecture that the reason
    for that is that the white colored mates
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    get to know the females
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    and can serve, so to speak,
    as marriage brokers,
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    when the females
    fly into the black colored males
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    they can make introductions
    and invite specific females to join them.
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    In any case,
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    the existence of multiple types of males
    also contradicts the Darwinian story
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    in which all males are of one type
    and all females another.
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    Then, we get to the question
    of homosexuality.
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    There's a lot of mating that takes place
    between animals of the same sex.
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    And these are elephants right here.
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    These are big horn sheep from Montana.
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    And these are primates,
    our closest relatives.
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    And there's well over 300 species
    of vertebrates alone
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    in which same sex sexuality
    has been observed in nature.
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    So, this is quite common.
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    And officially observed
    and published in the primary literature.
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    Now, these are gorillas on the left,
    which is a male-male interaction
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    and now in the center and right
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    we have a female-female interaction
    between bonobos.
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    And female bonobos, well,
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    mate with one another several times
    during the day,
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    as a form of networking.
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    So, what's really going on here
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    is that there's a lot of physical intimacy
    between animals,
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    not only same sex sexuality,
    but also multiple grooming,
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    reciprocal grooming,
    reciprocal preening.
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    And all of these forms of behavior
    are ways of exchanging physical pleasure
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    with one another.
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    And I've suggested that the reason
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    this evolves is as a mechanism
    to produce bounding
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    and collaboration between individuals.
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    And when individuals
    are physically intimate with one another
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    they're able to coordinate
    their activities
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    and work toward a common goal
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    because they experience mutual pleasure
    in achieving a common goal.
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    So, it's actually the realization
    of the common goal
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    that is pleasurable
    in these intimate interactions.
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    Now, in light of all of this
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    the whole idea of sexual selection
    looks almost absurd.
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    It's incorrect, but it also is irrelevant,
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    it doesn't even address the degree
    of diversity that occurs in nature.
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    The issue of collaboration
    brings us to the next issue
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    which is the one of family.
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    And biologists, I believe, also
    have an incorrect account of family life.
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    This is a quotation
    from Jeff Parker in the U.K.
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    "The family is now perceived
    as a cauldron of conflict,
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    with each of the players
    having different interests...
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    sexual conflict,
    parent-offspring conflict,
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    and sib-conflict simultaneously."
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    And this too is taught
    in the biology curricula.
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    And, if it were true, it paints
    a bleak picture of the aspirations
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    that we all share here
    of building a better life
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    and founded on collaboration,
    but it may not be true.
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    The idea of biological family
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    that I've been suggesting
    in the last year,
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    is summarized in this diagram,
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    in which the parent-parent relatioship
    is essentially colaborative
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    and the collaboration is realized
    through physical intimacy
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    that produces cooperation
    that resolves genetic conflict.
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    Because we can't avoid the fact
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    that there is genetic conflict
    at the beginning.
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    But it needs to get resolved.
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    Now, with respect
    to the parent-offspring relationship,
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    my suggestion is that there is an effect
    in auction of resources to offspring
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    that produce an incentive
    to resolve the genetic conflict.
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    And what I'm doing here
    is drawing on the economic theory
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    of the firm from economics.
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    And viewing a family as it was a firm
    or a company whose products is offsprings.
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    And asking whether
    or not the organization,
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    the economic organization of a firm,
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    could serve as a guide
    to understanding animal family life.
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    And the specifics are
    that in the parent-offspring firm,
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    the parent is in the position
    to give food to the offspring,
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    and what the parent does is indicates
    the price of the food to the offspring
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    and the offspring pay for this
    by the quantity
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    of begging that they carry out.
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    And the offspring are able to communicate
    their demand curve to the parent.
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    And if the parent knows
    the demand curve
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    it can set the price of food
    that it charges to the offspring,
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    so that the offspring honestly communicate
    their needs to the parent.
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    And when that happens the family functions
    as a very efficient unit
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    for the production of offspring.
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    And therefore we get the formation
    of collaboration in two ways.
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    Either through collaboration,
    either through physically intimacy
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    which produces a collaboration.
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    Or through the setting of incentives,
    and the circumstances differ.
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    So, I've been blessed in all my work
    by the help of these collaborators,
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    Erol Akçay, who's from Turkey,
    and Priya Iyer, who's from India.
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    So, thank you so much.
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    (Applause)
Title:
Sexual diversity in nature: Joan Roughgarden at TEDxAmazonia
Description:

A very interesting talk by ex-Jonathan now Joan Roughgarden, a respected evolutionary biologist at Stanford University, who wrote the book "Evolution's Rainbow" where argues that Darwin's Sexual Selection Theory might very well be defective and renders it useless and absurd as sexual diversity in nature is not confined to the only two genders specified in any academic biology curriculum.

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