1 00:00:21,536 --> 00:00:23,475 Thank you very much! 2 00:00:23,475 --> 00:00:27,405 I'm Joan Roughgarden and I'm a biologist, 3 00:00:27,405 --> 00:00:32,789 and I'm here to talk about the evolution of gender and sexuality. 4 00:00:33,587 --> 00:00:39,968 And, the reason I'm doing this is that I attended my first Gay Pride Parade 5 00:00:40,678 --> 00:00:43,123 in San Francisco about 12 years ago, 6 00:00:43,123 --> 00:00:47,041 and when I was there I noticed this huge number of people 7 00:00:47,041 --> 00:00:52,030 all of whom, biology said were somehow defective. 8 00:00:52,030 --> 00:00:57,811 I thought that maybe it's not the people that are defective, 9 00:00:58,234 --> 00:01:01,140 but is biology that's defective. 10 00:01:01,140 --> 00:01:05,073 And, that began an investigation 11 00:01:05,073 --> 00:01:08,205 into the extent of variation in gender and sexuality 12 00:01:08,205 --> 00:01:13,536 which appeared in Evolution's Rainbow the first of the two books 13 00:01:14,013 --> 00:01:16,250 that are on the screen here. 14 00:01:16,250 --> 00:01:20,154 Now, the issue from a biologist point of view 15 00:01:20,154 --> 00:01:23,507 with the diversity in gender and sexuality 16 00:01:23,507 --> 00:01:28,845 is that it leads to challenges in what we teach in our ordinary curriculum. 17 00:01:28,845 --> 00:01:32,323 And, this is a very unpleasant development, 18 00:01:32,323 --> 00:01:37,039 so the existence of gender and sexuality variation is problematic 19 00:01:37,039 --> 00:01:39,656 for biology and as you know, 20 00:01:39,656 --> 00:01:42,273 it's also problematic in the political sector 21 00:01:42,273 --> 00:01:44,890 and the religious sector as well. 22 00:01:44,890 --> 00:01:47,841 Now, for biology specifically, 23 00:01:47,841 --> 00:01:52,339 the problem concerns an area of evolution 24 00:01:52,339 --> 00:01:56,107 called Darwin's Sexual Selection Theory. 25 00:01:56,107 --> 00:01:58,142 And I'll tell you what that's about 26 00:01:58,142 --> 00:02:01,559 and then show you that it's pretty obviously incorrect. 27 00:02:01,559 --> 00:02:06,192 The first proposition that Darwin utters is that 28 00:02:06,192 --> 00:02:11,105 "Males of almost all animals have stronger passions than females" 29 00:02:11,105 --> 00:02:15,458 so, we have the phrase 'passionate male' tracing back to Darwin. 30 00:02:15,458 --> 00:02:19,232 And, furthermore, he says that the female, 31 00:02:19,232 --> 00:02:20,926 with the rarest of exceptions, 32 00:02:20,926 --> 00:02:24,106 is less eager than the male, she is coy. 33 00:02:24,106 --> 00:02:27,717 So we have the phrase 'coy female'. 34 00:02:27,717 --> 00:02:33,027 And, in today's jargon 'passionate male' is replaced with 'promiscuous male' 35 00:02:33,027 --> 00:02:36,322 and 'coy female' with 'constrained female'. 36 00:02:36,322 --> 00:02:40,105 And the third premise from Darwin is the most problematic. 37 00:02:40,105 --> 00:02:43,565 It pertains to characters 38 00:02:43,565 --> 00:02:47,025 like the peacock's tail and the antler on a deer, 39 00:02:47,025 --> 00:02:50,485 and it is that females... 40 00:02:50,485 --> 00:02:52,458 And so Darwin was asking 41 00:02:52,458 --> 00:02:57,504 why does the peacock have the tail and does the deer have the antler? 42 00:02:57,956 --> 00:03:01,243 And his answer is that females choose mates 43 00:03:01,540 --> 00:03:05,283 who are more attractive, vigorous and well-armed, 44 00:03:05,571 --> 00:03:09,652 just as men can give beauty to his male [unclear]. 45 00:03:09,806 --> 00:03:13,882 So, he's invisioning that females are breeding males 46 00:03:13,882 --> 00:03:15,950 to have the traits that they have. 47 00:03:15,950 --> 00:03:18,096 Now, why, you might ask, 48 00:03:18,096 --> 00:03:21,869 would females be chosing males with ornaments? 49 00:03:22,142 --> 00:03:26,839 The idea is that the females have expensive eggs. 50 00:03:27,849 --> 00:03:31,799 And the males, on the other hand, have cheap sperm 51 00:03:32,030 --> 00:03:36,796 and so males are capable in principle of ranging far and wide 52 00:03:38,369 --> 00:03:41,772 inseminating anything they come accross. 53 00:03:41,850 --> 00:03:45,419 And females are necessarily obligated 54 00:03:47,375 --> 00:03:50,943 to defend their expensive investment in eggs. 55 00:03:50,943 --> 00:03:54,084 Therefore, the female is forced to be coy and choosy, 56 00:03:54,084 --> 00:03:57,158 and the male passionate or promiscuous. 57 00:03:57,643 --> 00:03:59,688 And this is the party line 58 00:03:59,688 --> 00:04:03,126 that's currently taught in biology curricula worldwide. 59 00:04:03,126 --> 00:04:06,551 It's a nice story, in a sense, at least it's a story. 60 00:04:06,551 --> 00:04:08,997 But the question is whether it's true. 61 00:04:08,997 --> 00:04:13,189 And let me show you some examples of diversity in gender and sexuality 62 00:04:13,189 --> 00:04:16,986 that make these propositions almost useless. 63 00:04:16,986 --> 00:04:21,995 And one thing I need to emphasize is that the two intial premises 64 00:04:21,995 --> 00:04:24,169 the passionate male and the coy female, 65 00:04:24,169 --> 00:04:27,054 are asserted as empirical generalizations. 66 00:04:27,054 --> 00:04:32,219 So, if you go outside and you pick up a random bird or a random butterfly, 67 00:04:32,219 --> 00:04:34,330 or any organism at random, 68 00:04:34,330 --> 00:04:37,260 the male is supposed to be passionate and the female coy, 69 00:04:37,260 --> 00:04:39,827 with very, very rare exceptions. 70 00:04:39,827 --> 00:04:43,889 And it will be obvious that the exceptions are far from rare. 71 00:04:43,889 --> 00:04:46,261 The first issue is that the assignement 72 00:04:46,261 --> 00:04:51,526 into a sex, as male or female, is neither stable nor exclusive. 73 00:04:51,973 --> 00:04:55,322 If you go diving on a coral reef, 74 00:04:55,322 --> 00:04:58,206 about a third of the species that you see there 75 00:04:58,206 --> 00:05:02,184 consist of individuals who are both sexes at the same time. 76 00:05:02,484 --> 00:05:05,689 Or at different times during their life. 77 00:05:05,689 --> 00:05:09,565 So, in the case of these species right here, 78 00:05:09,565 --> 00:05:15,201 the individuals change from female to male, that is a kind of wrasse. 79 00:05:15,521 --> 00:05:18,193 In the case of this species right here 80 00:05:18,193 --> 00:05:21,742 they change from a male to female. 81 00:05:22,867 --> 00:05:26,295 And as I say, 30% of the species, 82 00:05:26,295 --> 00:05:28,407 if you simply go snorkeling on a coral reef, 83 00:05:28,407 --> 00:05:29,933 you see this all around you. 84 00:05:29,933 --> 00:05:32,492 And it's just simply not true 85 00:05:32,492 --> 00:05:37,987 that the categories of males and females are stable or comprehensive. 86 00:05:38,492 --> 00:05:44,316 Now, another important issue is called 'Sex-Role Reversal' by biologists. 87 00:05:45,492 --> 00:05:50,175 And this pertains to males who do all the parental care 88 00:05:50,530 --> 00:05:52,781 and females who have to hustle around 89 00:05:52,781 --> 00:05:55,468 and find a male who is interested in them. 90 00:05:55,468 --> 00:05:59,530 And the popular examples of this are the seahorses. 91 00:05:59,770 --> 00:06:04,593 Now, in fish, the parental care is usually provided by the male. 92 00:06:05,003 --> 00:06:08,314 And in birds, it's about 50/50 male and female 93 00:06:08,595 --> 00:06:11,985 and in mammals is usually initially by the female. 94 00:06:11,985 --> 00:06:17,470 But in fish, the style of parental care varies from species 95 00:06:17,665 --> 00:06:21,686 and in many cases the males will glue the eggs to their tummy. 96 00:06:21,686 --> 00:06:25,838 And that is true of... darn! 97 00:06:26,981 --> 00:06:31,787 That's true of this species in the middle here which is a pipefish. 98 00:06:32,191 --> 00:06:34,956 Now, the seahorses are related to pipefish 99 00:06:34,956 --> 00:06:39,311 in that they have a big skin-flap on their tummy 100 00:06:39,510 --> 00:06:43,549 and the females deposit eggs into the males' tummy. 101 00:06:43,816 --> 00:06:46,847 So the males become, in a sense, pregnant. 102 00:06:46,847 --> 00:06:51,665 So, this is a male seahorse receiving eggs from that female. 103 00:06:52,860 --> 00:06:55,261 And what happens in this situation 104 00:06:55,261 --> 00:06:58,513 is that you can get more females hanging around 105 00:06:59,416 --> 00:07:02,213 looking for males to receive their eggs, 106 00:07:02,213 --> 00:07:06,054 and in that situation then the males are in the position to decide 107 00:07:06,054 --> 00:07:10,464 what female they want to allow to deposit eggs in their skin-flap. 108 00:07:10,464 --> 00:07:14,643 So this is the exactly the reverse of the Darwinian story 109 00:07:14,643 --> 00:07:17,323 that it's females who are choosing males, 110 00:07:17,323 --> 00:07:19,772 here it's males who are choosing females. 111 00:07:19,772 --> 00:07:25,869 Now, that shows that the size of the sperm or the egg can't be important 112 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:30,137 or definitive in determining the sex-role of the animal. 113 00:07:30,281 --> 00:07:33,849 Because male seahorses make tiny sperm 114 00:07:33,849 --> 00:07:39,417 but yet they are nonetheless the ones who wind up doing all the parental care. 115 00:07:39,613 --> 00:07:43,492 In many species there are several genders of males. 116 00:07:43,492 --> 00:07:45,882 In this species called the ruff 117 00:07:45,882 --> 00:07:50,775 the one on the left is a male with a black collar around it 118 00:07:51,420 --> 00:07:53,747 the one at the top has a white collar, 119 00:07:53,747 --> 00:07:58,093 and the one on the far right has no collar. 120 00:07:58,788 --> 00:08:01,867 Now, the black colored males, at the time of mating, 121 00:08:01,867 --> 00:08:05,287 go into an area which is called a 'lek' 122 00:08:05,287 --> 00:08:08,742 which is basically a red light district of males. 123 00:08:08,742 --> 00:08:12,321 And, when the females are foraging by themselves 124 00:08:12,321 --> 00:08:13,708 and they want some sex, 125 00:08:13,708 --> 00:08:16,590 they just go and fly over to the lek 126 00:08:16,590 --> 00:08:18,925 where all the black colored males are hanging out 127 00:08:18,925 --> 00:08:23,557 and then the males try to attract them into mating with them. 128 00:08:23,557 --> 00:08:25,331 But the plot thickens, 129 00:08:25,331 --> 00:08:28,343 because this white colored male at the top, 130 00:08:28,343 --> 00:08:33,085 hangs out with the females for a little while and gets to know them, 131 00:08:33,085 --> 00:08:37,988 and then he leaves those females before they approach the lek 132 00:08:38,262 --> 00:08:42,501 and he goes to the lek where the black colored males are, 133 00:08:42,501 --> 00:08:47,558 the black colored males court him and ask him to join them. 134 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,146 So, when the females arrive 135 00:08:50,146 --> 00:08:55,745 they find some territories with two colors, two styles of males, 136 00:08:55,745 --> 00:09:01,479 and the females prefer to mate with the pair of males of the two colors 137 00:09:01,853 --> 00:09:04,800 rather than with the males with one color by itself. 138 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:09,452 And, I conjecture that the reason for that is that the white colored mates 139 00:09:09,899 --> 00:09:11,458 get to know the females 140 00:09:11,458 --> 00:09:15,257 and can serve, so to speak, as marriage brokers, 141 00:09:15,257 --> 00:09:18,234 when the females fly into the black colored males 142 00:09:18,234 --> 00:09:23,446 they can make introductions and invite specific females to join them. 143 00:09:24,009 --> 00:09:25,310 In any case, 144 00:09:25,310 --> 00:09:30,771 the existence of multiple types of males also contradicts the Darwinian story 145 00:09:31,439 --> 00:09:35,718 in which all males are of one type and all females another. 146 00:09:35,718 --> 00:09:39,482 Then, we get to the question of homosexuality. 147 00:09:39,677 --> 00:09:44,717 There's a lot of mating that takes place between animals of the same sex. 148 00:09:44,717 --> 00:09:47,453 And these are elephants right here. 149 00:09:47,453 --> 00:09:51,610 These are big horn sheep from Montana. 150 00:09:52,187 --> 00:09:54,659 And these are primates, our closest relatives. 151 00:09:54,659 --> 00:09:59,513 And there's well over 300 species of vertebrates alone 152 00:09:59,843 --> 00:10:03,460 in which same sex sexuality has been observed in nature. 153 00:10:03,460 --> 00:10:05,712 So, this is quite common. 154 00:10:05,712 --> 00:10:10,631 And officially observed and published in the primary literature. 155 00:10:10,631 --> 00:10:15,959 Now, these are gorillas on the left, which is a male-male interaction 156 00:10:15,959 --> 00:10:17,551 and now in the center and right 157 00:10:17,551 --> 00:10:21,551 we have a female-female interaction between bonobos. 158 00:10:21,551 --> 00:10:23,041 And female bonobos, well, 159 00:10:23,041 --> 00:10:28,446 mate with one another several times during the day, 160 00:10:29,112 --> 00:10:30,770 as a form of networking. 161 00:10:30,770 --> 00:10:33,470 So, what's really going on here 162 00:10:33,470 --> 00:10:36,479 is that there's a lot of physical intimacy between animals, 163 00:10:36,479 --> 00:10:41,324 not only same sex sexuality, but also multiple grooming, 164 00:10:41,324 --> 00:10:44,338 reciprocal grooming, reciprocal preening. 165 00:10:44,338 --> 00:10:50,424 And all of these forms of behavior are ways of exchanging physical pleasure 166 00:10:50,424 --> 00:10:51,480 with one another. 167 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,433 And I've suggested that the reason 168 00:10:54,433 --> 00:10:58,599 this evolves is as a mechanism to produce bounding 169 00:10:58,599 --> 00:11:02,949 and collaboration between individuals. 170 00:11:02,949 --> 00:11:05,866 And when individuals are physically intimate with one another 171 00:11:05,866 --> 00:11:08,390 they're able to coordinate their activities 172 00:11:08,390 --> 00:11:10,886 and work toward a common goal 173 00:11:10,886 --> 00:11:15,754 because they experience mutual pleasure in achieving a common goal. 174 00:11:16,077 --> 00:11:19,647 So, it's actually the realization of the common goal 175 00:11:19,647 --> 00:11:23,480 that is pleasurable in these intimate interactions. 176 00:11:24,698 --> 00:11:28,612 Now, in light of all of this 177 00:11:29,508 --> 00:11:33,110 the whole idea of sexual selection looks almost absurd. 178 00:11:33,110 --> 00:11:36,565 It's incorrect, but it also is irrelevant, 179 00:11:36,565 --> 00:11:41,568 it doesn't even address the degree of diversity that occurs in nature. 180 00:11:44,047 --> 00:11:47,047 The issue of collaboration brings us to the next issue 181 00:11:47,047 --> 00:11:48,675 which is the one of family. 182 00:11:48,675 --> 00:11:53,271 And biologists, I believe, also have an incorrect account of family life. 183 00:11:53,466 --> 00:11:57,982 This is a quotation from Jeff Parker in the U.K. 184 00:11:59,688 --> 00:12:02,942 "The family is now perceived as a cauldron of conflict, 185 00:12:02,942 --> 00:12:05,754 with each of the players having different interests... 186 00:12:05,754 --> 00:12:08,974 sexual conflict, parent-offspring conflict, 187 00:12:08,974 --> 00:12:11,525 and sib-conflict simultaneously." 188 00:12:11,525 --> 00:12:14,330 And this too is taught in the biology curricula. 189 00:12:14,330 --> 00:12:19,470 And, if it were true, it paints a bleak picture of the aspirations 190 00:12:19,818 --> 00:12:23,023 that we all share here of building a better life 191 00:12:23,023 --> 00:12:26,744 and founded on collaboration, but it may not be true. 192 00:12:26,744 --> 00:12:29,937 The idea of biological family 193 00:12:29,937 --> 00:12:33,130 that I've been suggesting in the last year, 194 00:12:33,556 --> 00:12:36,325 is summarized in this diagram, 195 00:12:36,325 --> 00:12:40,220 in which the parent-parent relatioship is essentially colaborative 196 00:12:40,220 --> 00:12:45,026 and the collaboration is realized through physical intimacy 197 00:12:45,026 --> 00:12:49,419 that produces cooperation that resolves genetic conflict. 198 00:12:49,419 --> 00:12:51,201 Because we can't avoid the fact 199 00:12:51,201 --> 00:12:53,693 that there is genetic conflict at the beginning. 200 00:12:53,693 --> 00:12:56,368 But it needs to get resolved. 201 00:12:56,368 --> 00:12:59,131 Now, with respect to the parent-offspring relationship, 202 00:12:59,131 --> 00:13:04,476 my suggestion is that there is an effect in auction of resources to offspring 203 00:13:05,531 --> 00:13:09,496 that produce an incentive to resolve the genetic conflict. 204 00:13:09,496 --> 00:13:13,542 And what I'm doing here is drawing on the economic theory 205 00:13:13,542 --> 00:13:15,839 of the firm from economics. 206 00:13:15,839 --> 00:13:22,109 And viewing a family as it was a firm or a company whose products is offsprings. 207 00:13:22,109 --> 00:13:24,560 And asking whether or not the organization, 208 00:13:24,560 --> 00:13:26,837 the economic organization of a firm, 209 00:13:26,837 --> 00:13:31,252 could serve as a guide to understanding animal family life. 210 00:13:31,252 --> 00:13:35,812 And the specifics are that in the parent-offspring firm, 211 00:13:35,812 --> 00:13:40,247 the parent is in the position to give food to the offspring, 212 00:13:40,247 --> 00:13:46,198 and what the parent does is indicates the price of the food to the offspring 213 00:13:46,625 --> 00:13:49,762 and the offspring pay for this by the quantity 214 00:13:49,762 --> 00:13:52,293 of begging that they carry out. 215 00:13:52,293 --> 00:13:57,824 And the offspring are able to communicate their demand curve to the parent. 216 00:13:58,137 --> 00:14:00,923 And if the parent knows the demand curve 217 00:14:00,923 --> 00:14:05,228 it can set the price of food that it charges to the offspring, 218 00:14:05,228 --> 00:14:09,961 so that the offspring honestly communicate their needs to the parent. 219 00:14:09,961 --> 00:14:15,257 And when that happens the family functions as a very efficient unit 220 00:14:15,257 --> 00:14:17,262 for the production of offspring. 221 00:14:17,262 --> 00:14:21,995 And therefore we get the formation of collaboration in two ways. 222 00:14:21,995 --> 00:14:26,995 Either through collaboration, either through physically intimacy 223 00:14:26,995 --> 00:14:30,646 which produces a collaboration. 224 00:14:30,646 --> 00:14:36,294 Or through the setting of incentives, and the circumstances differ. 225 00:14:36,588 --> 00:14:41,686 So, I've been blessed in all my work by the help of these collaborators, 226 00:14:43,908 --> 00:14:48,966 Erol Akçay, who's from Turkey, and Priya Iyer, who's from India. 227 00:14:50,323 --> 00:14:52,249 So, thank you so much. 228 00:14:52,249 --> 00:14:54,297 (Applause)