WEBVTT 00:00:21.536 --> 00:00:23.475 Thank you very much! 00:00:23.475 --> 00:00:27.405 I'm Joan Roughgarden and I'm a biologist, 00:00:27.405 --> 00:00:32.789 and I'm here to talk about the evolution of gender and sexuality. 00:00:33.587 --> 00:00:39.968 And, the reason I'm doing this is that I attended my first Gay Pride Parade 00:00:40.678 --> 00:00:43.123 in San Francisco about 12 years ago, 00:00:43.123 --> 00:00:47.041 and when I was there I noticed this huge number of people 00:00:47.041 --> 00:00:52.030 all of whom, biology said were somehow defective. 00:00:52.030 --> 00:00:57.811 I thought that maybe it's not the people that are defective, 00:00:58.234 --> 00:01:01.140 but is biology that's defective. 00:01:01.140 --> 00:01:05.073 And, that began an investigation 00:01:05.073 --> 00:01:08.205 into the extent of variation in gender and sexuality 00:01:08.205 --> 00:01:13.536 which appeared in Evolution's Rainbow the first of the two books 00:01:14.013 --> 00:01:16.250 that are on the screen here. 00:01:16.250 --> 00:01:20.154 Now, the issue from a biologist point of view 00:01:20.154 --> 00:01:23.507 with the diversity in gender and sexuality 00:01:23.507 --> 00:01:28.845 is that it leads to challenges in what we teach in our ordinary curriculum. 00:01:28.845 --> 00:01:32.323 And, this is a very unpleasant development, 00:01:32.323 --> 00:01:37.039 so the existence of gender and sexuality variation is problematic 00:01:37.039 --> 00:01:39.656 for biology and as you know, 00:01:39.656 --> 00:01:42.273 it's also problematic in the political sector 00:01:42.273 --> 00:01:44.890 and the religious sector as well. 00:01:44.890 --> 00:01:47.841 Now, for biology specifically, 00:01:47.841 --> 00:01:52.339 the problem concerns an area of evolution 00:01:52.339 --> 00:01:56.107 called Darwin's Sexual Selection Theory. 00:01:56.107 --> 00:01:58.142 And I'll tell you what that's about 00:01:58.142 --> 00:02:01.559 and then show you that it's pretty obviously incorrect. 00:02:01.559 --> 00:02:06.192 The first proposition that Darwin utters is that 00:02:06.192 --> 00:02:11.105 "Males of almost all animals have stronger passions than females" 00:02:11.105 --> 00:02:15.458 so, we have the phrase 'passionate male' tracing back to Darwin. 00:02:15.458 --> 00:02:19.232 And, furthermore, he says that the female, 00:02:19.232 --> 00:02:20.926 with the rarest of exceptions, 00:02:20.926 --> 00:02:24.106 is less eager than the male, she is coy. 00:02:24.106 --> 00:02:27.717 So we have the phrase 'coy female'. 00:02:27.717 --> 00:02:33.027 And, in today's jargon 'passionate male' is replaced with 'promiscuous male' 00:02:33.027 --> 00:02:36.322 and 'coy female' with 'constrained female'. 00:02:36.322 --> 00:02:40.105 And the third premise from Darwin is the most problematic. 00:02:40.105 --> 00:02:43.565 It pertains to characters 00:02:43.565 --> 00:02:47.025 like the peacock's tail and the antler on a deer, 00:02:47.025 --> 00:02:50.485 and it is that females... 00:02:50.485 --> 00:02:52.458 And so Darwin was asking 00:02:52.458 --> 00:02:57.504 why does the peacock have the tail and does the deer have the antler? 00:02:57.956 --> 00:03:01.243 And his answer is that females choose mates 00:03:01.540 --> 00:03:05.283 who are more attractive, vigorous and well-armed, 00:03:05.571 --> 00:03:09.652 just as men can give beauty to his male [unclear]. 00:03:09.806 --> 00:03:13.882 So, he's invisioning that females are breeding males 00:03:13.882 --> 00:03:15.950 to have the traits that they have. 00:03:15.950 --> 00:03:18.096 Now, why, you might ask, 00:03:18.096 --> 00:03:21.869 would females be chosing males with ornaments? 00:03:22.142 --> 00:03:26.839 The idea is that the females have expensive eggs. 00:03:27.849 --> 00:03:31.799 And the males, on the other hand, have cheap sperm 00:03:32.030 --> 00:03:36.796 and so males are capable in principle of ranging far and wide 00:03:38.369 --> 00:03:41.772 inseminating anything they come accross. 00:03:41.850 --> 00:03:45.419 And females are necessarily obligated 00:03:47.375 --> 00:03:50.943 to defend their expensive investment in eggs. 00:03:50.943 --> 00:03:54.084 Therefore, the female is forced to be coy and choosy, 00:03:54.084 --> 00:03:57.158 and the male passionate or promiscuous. 00:03:57.643 --> 00:03:59.688 And this is the party line 00:03:59.688 --> 00:04:03.126 that's currently taught in biology curricula worldwide. 00:04:03.126 --> 00:04:06.551 It's a nice story, in a sense, at least it's a story. 00:04:06.551 --> 00:04:08.997 But the question is whether it's true. 00:04:08.997 --> 00:04:13.189 And let me show you some examples of diversity in gender and sexuality 00:04:13.189 --> 00:04:16.986 that make these propositions almost useless. 00:04:16.986 --> 00:04:21.995 And one thing I need to emphasize is that the two intial premises 00:04:21.995 --> 00:04:24.169 the passionate male and the coy female, 00:04:24.169 --> 00:04:27.054 are asserted as empirical generalizations. 00:04:27.054 --> 00:04:32.219 So, if you go outside and you pick up a random bird or a random butterfly, 00:04:32.219 --> 00:04:34.330 or any organism at random, 00:04:34.330 --> 00:04:37.260 the male is supposed to be passionate and the female coy, 00:04:37.260 --> 00:04:39.827 with very, very rare exceptions. 00:04:39.827 --> 00:04:43.889 And it will be obvious that the exceptions are far from rare. 00:04:43.889 --> 00:04:46.261 The first issue is that the assignement 00:04:46.261 --> 00:04:51.526 into a sex, as male or female, is neither stable nor exclusive. 00:04:51.973 --> 00:04:55.322 If you go diving on a coral reef, 00:04:55.322 --> 00:04:58.206 about a third of the species that you see there 00:04:58.206 --> 00:05:02.184 consist of individuals who are both sexes at the same time. 00:05:02.484 --> 00:05:05.689 Or at different times during their life. 00:05:05.689 --> 00:05:09.565 So, in the case of these species right here, 00:05:09.565 --> 00:05:15.201 the individuals change from female to male, that is a kind of wrasse. 00:05:15.521 --> 00:05:18.193 In the case of this species right here 00:05:18.193 --> 00:05:21.742 they change from a male to female. 00:05:22.867 --> 00:05:26.295 And as I say, 30% of the species, 00:05:26.295 --> 00:05:28.407 if you simply go snorkeling on a coral reef, 00:05:28.407 --> 00:05:29.933 you see this all around you. 00:05:29.933 --> 00:05:32.492 And it's just simply not true 00:05:32.492 --> 00:05:37.987 that the categories of males and females are stable or comprehensive. 00:05:38.492 --> 00:05:44.316 Now, another important issue is called 'Sex-Role Reversal' by biologists. 00:05:45.492 --> 00:05:50.175 And this pertains to males who do all the parental care 00:05:50.530 --> 00:05:52.781 and females who have to hustle around 00:05:52.781 --> 00:05:55.468 and find a male who is interested in them. 00:05:55.468 --> 00:05:59.530 And the popular examples of this are the seahorses. 00:05:59.770 --> 00:06:04.593 Now, in fish, the parental care is usually provided by the male. 00:06:05.003 --> 00:06:08.314 And in birds, it's about 50/50 male and female 00:06:08.595 --> 00:06:11.985 and in mammals is usually initially by the female. 00:06:11.985 --> 00:06:17.470 But in fish, the style of parental care varies from species 00:06:17.665 --> 00:06:21.686 and in many cases the males will glue the eggs to their tummy. 00:06:21.686 --> 00:06:25.838 And that is true of... darn! 00:06:26.981 --> 00:06:31.787 That's true of this species in the middle here which is a pipefish. 00:06:32.191 --> 00:06:34.956 Now, the seahorses are related to pipefish 00:06:34.956 --> 00:06:39.311 in that they have a big skin-flap on their tummy 00:06:39.510 --> 00:06:43.549 and the females deposit eggs into the males' tummy. 00:06:43.816 --> 00:06:46.847 So the males become, in a sense, pregnant. 00:06:46.847 --> 00:06:51.665 So, this is a male seahorse receiving eggs from that female. 00:06:52.860 --> 00:06:55.261 And what happens in this situation 00:06:55.261 --> 00:06:58.513 is that you can get more females hanging around 00:06:59.416 --> 00:07:02.213 looking for males to receive their eggs, 00:07:02.213 --> 00:07:06.054 and in that situation then the males are in the position to decide 00:07:06.054 --> 00:07:10.464 what female they want to allow to deposit eggs in their skin-flap. 00:07:10.464 --> 00:07:14.643 So this is the exactly the reverse of the Darwinian story 00:07:14.643 --> 00:07:17.323 that it's females who are choosing males, 00:07:17.323 --> 00:07:19.772 here it's males who are choosing females. 00:07:19.772 --> 00:07:25.869 Now, that shows that the size of the sperm or the egg can't be important 00:07:26.120 --> 00:07:30.137 or definitive in determining the sex-role of the animal. 00:07:30.281 --> 00:07:33.849 Because male seahorses make tiny sperm 00:07:33.849 --> 00:07:39.417 but yet they are nonetheless the ones who wind up doing all the parental care. 00:07:39.613 --> 00:07:43.492 In many species there are several genders of males. 00:07:43.492 --> 00:07:45.882 In this species called the ruff 00:07:45.882 --> 00:07:50.775 the one on the left is a male with a black collar around it 00:07:51.420 --> 00:07:53.747 the one at the top has a white collar, 00:07:53.747 --> 00:07:58.093 and the one on the far right has no collar. 00:07:58.788 --> 00:08:01.867 Now, the black colored males, at the time of mating, 00:08:01.867 --> 00:08:05.287 go into an area which is called a 'lek' 00:08:05.287 --> 00:08:08.742 which is basically a red light district of males. 00:08:08.742 --> 00:08:12.321 And, when the females are foraging by themselves 00:08:12.321 --> 00:08:13.708 and they want some sex, 00:08:13.708 --> 00:08:16.590 they just go and fly over to the lek 00:08:16.590 --> 00:08:18.925 where all the black colored males are hanging out 00:08:18.925 --> 00:08:23.557 and then the males try to attract them into mating with them. 00:08:23.557 --> 00:08:25.331 But the plot thickens, 00:08:25.331 --> 00:08:28.343 because this white colored male at the top, 00:08:28.343 --> 00:08:33.085 hangs out with the females for a little while and gets to know them, 00:08:33.085 --> 00:08:37.988 and then he leaves those females before they approach the lek 00:08:38.262 --> 00:08:42.501 and he goes to the lek where the black colored males are, 00:08:42.501 --> 00:08:47.558 the black colored males court him and ask him to join them. 00:08:48.320 --> 00:08:50.146 So, when the females arrive 00:08:50.146 --> 00:08:55.745 they find some territories with two colors, two styles of males, 00:08:55.745 --> 00:09:01.479 and the females prefer to mate with the pair of males of the two colors 00:09:01.853 --> 00:09:04.800 rather than with the males with one color by itself. 00:09:04.800 --> 00:09:09.452 And, I conjecture that the reason for that is that the white colored mates 00:09:09.899 --> 00:09:11.458 get to know the females 00:09:11.458 --> 00:09:15.257 and can serve, so to speak, as marriage brokers, 00:09:15.257 --> 00:09:18.234 when the females fly into the black colored males 00:09:18.234 --> 00:09:23.446 they can make introductions and invite specific females to join them. 00:09:24.009 --> 00:09:25.310 In any case, 00:09:25.310 --> 00:09:30.771 the existence of multiple types of males also contradicts the Darwinian story 00:09:31.439 --> 00:09:35.718 in which all males are of one type and all females another. 00:09:35.718 --> 00:09:39.482 Then, we get to the question of homosexuality. 00:09:39.677 --> 00:09:44.717 There's a lot of mating that takes place between animals of the same sex. 00:09:44.717 --> 00:09:47.453 And these are elephants right here. 00:09:47.453 --> 00:09:51.610 These are big horn sheep from Montana. 00:09:52.187 --> 00:09:54.659 And these are primates, our closest relatives. 00:09:54.659 --> 00:09:59.513 And there's well over 300 species of vertebrates alone 00:09:59.843 --> 00:10:03.460 in which same sex sexuality has been observed in nature. 00:10:03.460 --> 00:10:05.712 So, this is quite common. 00:10:05.712 --> 00:10:10.631 And officially observed and published in the primary literature. 00:10:10.631 --> 00:10:15.959 Now, these are gorillas on the left, which is a male-male interaction 00:10:15.959 --> 00:10:17.551 and now in the center and right 00:10:17.551 --> 00:10:21.551 we have a female-female interaction between bonobos. 00:10:21.551 --> 00:10:23.041 And female bonobos, well, 00:10:23.041 --> 00:10:28.446 mate with one another several times during the day, 00:10:29.112 --> 00:10:30.770 as a form of networking. 00:10:30.770 --> 00:10:33.470 So, what's really going on here 00:10:33.470 --> 00:10:36.479 is that there's a lot of physical intimacy between animals, 00:10:36.479 --> 00:10:41.324 not only same sex sexuality, but also multiple grooming, 00:10:41.324 --> 00:10:44.338 reciprocal grooming, reciprocal preening. 00:10:44.338 --> 00:10:50.424 And all of these forms of behavior are ways of exchanging physical pleasure 00:10:50.424 --> 00:10:51.480 with one another. 00:10:51.480 --> 00:10:54.433 And I've suggested that the reason 00:10:54.433 --> 00:10:58.599 this evolves is as a mechanism to produce bounding 00:10:58.599 --> 00:11:02.949 and collaboration between individuals. 00:11:02.949 --> 00:11:05.866 And when individuals are physically intimate with one another 00:11:05.866 --> 00:11:08.390 they're able to coordinate their activities 00:11:08.390 --> 00:11:10.886 and work toward a common goal 00:11:10.886 --> 00:11:15.754 because they experience mutual pleasure in achieving a common goal. 00:11:16.077 --> 00:11:19.647 So, it's actually the realization of the common goal 00:11:19.647 --> 00:11:23.480 that is pleasurable in these intimate interactions. 00:11:24.698 --> 00:11:28.612 Now, in light of all of this 00:11:29.508 --> 00:11:33.110 the whole idea of sexual selection looks almost absurd. 00:11:33.110 --> 00:11:36.565 It's incorrect, but it also is irrelevant, 00:11:36.565 --> 00:11:41.568 it doesn't even address the degree of diversity that occurs in nature. 00:11:44.047 --> 00:11:47.047 The issue of collaboration brings us to the next issue 00:11:47.047 --> 00:11:48.675 which is the one of family. 00:11:48.675 --> 00:11:53.271 And biologists, I believe, also have an incorrect account of family life. 00:11:53.466 --> 00:11:57.982 This is a quotation from Jeff Parker in the U.K. 00:11:59.688 --> 00:12:02.942 "The family is now perceived as a cauldron of conflict, 00:12:02.942 --> 00:12:05.754 with each of the players having different interests... 00:12:05.754 --> 00:12:08.974 sexual conflict, parent-offspring conflict, 00:12:08.974 --> 00:12:11.525 and sib-conflict simultaneously." 00:12:11.525 --> 00:12:14.330 And this too is taught in the biology curricula. 00:12:14.330 --> 00:12:19.470 And, if it were true, it paints a bleak picture of the aspirations 00:12:19.818 --> 00:12:23.023 that we all share here of building a better life 00:12:23.023 --> 00:12:26.744 and founded on collaboration, but it may not be true. 00:12:26.744 --> 00:12:29.937 The idea of biological family 00:12:29.937 --> 00:12:33.130 that I've been suggesting in the last year, 00:12:33.556 --> 00:12:36.325 is summarized in this diagram, 00:12:36.325 --> 00:12:40.220 in which the parent-parent relatioship is essentially colaborative 00:12:40.220 --> 00:12:45.026 and the collaboration is realized through physical intimacy 00:12:45.026 --> 00:12:49.419 that produces cooperation that resolves genetic conflict. 00:12:49.419 --> 00:12:51.201 Because we can't avoid the fact 00:12:51.201 --> 00:12:53.693 that there is genetic conflict at the beginning. 00:12:53.693 --> 00:12:56.368 But it needs to get resolved. 00:12:56.368 --> 00:12:59.131 Now, with respect to the parent-offspring relationship, 00:12:59.131 --> 00:13:04.476 my suggestion is that there is an effect in auction of resources to offspring 00:13:05.531 --> 00:13:09.496 that produce an incentive to resolve the genetic conflict. 00:13:09.496 --> 00:13:13.542 And what I'm doing here is drawing on the economic theory 00:13:13.542 --> 00:13:15.839 of the firm from economics. 00:13:15.839 --> 00:13:22.109 And viewing a family as it was a firm or a company whose products is offsprings. 00:13:22.109 --> 00:13:24.560 And asking whether or not the organization, 00:13:24.560 --> 00:13:26.837 the economic organization of a firm, 00:13:26.837 --> 00:13:31.252 could serve as a guide to understanding animal family life. 00:13:31.252 --> 00:13:35.812 And the specifics are that in the parent-offspring firm, 00:13:35.812 --> 00:13:40.247 the parent is in the position to give food to the offspring, 00:13:40.247 --> 00:13:46.198 and what the parent does is indicates the price of the food to the offspring 00:13:46.625 --> 00:13:49.762 and the offspring pay for this by the quantity 00:13:49.762 --> 00:13:52.293 of begging that they carry out. 00:13:52.293 --> 00:13:57.824 And the offspring are able to communicate their demand curve to the parent. 00:13:58.137 --> 00:14:00.923 And if the parent knows the demand curve 00:14:00.923 --> 00:14:05.228 it can set the price of food that it charges to the offspring, 00:14:05.228 --> 00:14:09.961 so that the offspring honestly communicate their needs to the parent. 00:14:09.961 --> 00:14:15.257 And when that happens the family functions as a very efficient unit 00:14:15.257 --> 00:14:17.262 for the production of offspring. 00:14:17.262 --> 00:14:21.995 And therefore we get the formation of collaboration in two ways. 00:14:21.995 --> 00:14:26.995 Either through collaboration, either through physically intimacy 00:14:26.995 --> 00:14:30.646 which produces a collaboration. 00:14:30.646 --> 00:14:36.294 Or through the setting of incentives, and the circumstances differ. 00:14:36.588 --> 00:14:41.686 So, I've been blessed in all my work by the help of these collaborators, 00:14:43.908 --> 00:14:48.966 Erol Akçay, who's from Turkey, and Priya Iyer, who's from India. 00:14:50.323 --> 00:14:52.249 So, thank you so much. 00:14:52.249 --> 00:14:54.297 (Applause)