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How to foster productive and responsible debate

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    What if you own a hotel,
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    and one of the key principles
    in your mission statement
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    is a commitment to treat
    all employees and customers equally,
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    including on the basis
    of gender and religion?
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    And then a large group
    books an event at your space,
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    and when you look at the booking,
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    you realize that it's a religious group,
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    and one of their key principles
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    is that women should never leave the home
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    and should have no opportunities
    for professional development
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    outside of it?
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    What do you do?
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    Do you host the event
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    and get criticized by some,
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    or refuse and get criticized by others?
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    In my work, I counsel organizations
    on how to create rules
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    to navigate ideological disagreement
    and controversial speech,
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    and I defend my clients,
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    whether in court or from the government
    when their actions are challenged.
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    The structures I recommend
    recognize the real harms
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    that can come from
    certain types of speech,
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    but at the same time seek to promote
    dialogue rather than shut it down.
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    The reason is that we need disagreement.
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    Creativity and human progress
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    depend on it.
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    While it may be often easier
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    to speak with someone who agrees
    with everything you say,
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    it's more enlightening
    and oftentimes more satisfying
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    to speak with someone who doesn't.
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    But disagreement and discord
    can have real and meaningful costs.
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    Disagreement, particularly
    in the form of hateful speech,
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    can lead to deep and lasting wounds
    and sometimes result in violence.
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    And in a world in which polarization
    and innovation are increasing
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    at seemingly exponential rates,
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    the need to create structures for vigorous
    but not violent disagreement
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    have never been more important.
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    The US Constitution's First Amendment
    might seem like a good place to start
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    to go to look for answers.
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    You, like I, may have often
    heard somebody say
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    that some form of a speech restriction,
    whether from an employer, a website,
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    or even somebody else,
    violates the First Amendment.
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    But in fact the First Amendment
    usually has little if any relevance at all.
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    The First Amendment only applies
    when the government is seeking
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    to suppress the speech of its citizens.
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    As a result, the First Amendment
    is by design a blunt instrument.
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    A narrow category of speech
    can be banned based on its content.
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    Almost everything else cannot.
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    But the First Amendment has no relevance
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    when what we're talking about
    is a private entity regulating speech,
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    and that's a good thing,
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    because it means private entities
    have at their disposal
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    a broad and flexible set of tools
    that don't prohibit speech,
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    but do make speakers aware
    of the consequences of their words.
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    Here are some examples.
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    When you go to university,
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    it's a time for the free
    and unrestricted exchange of ideas,
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    but some ideas,
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    and the words used to express them,
    can cause discord,
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    whether it's an intentionally inflammatory
    event hosted by a student group,
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    or the exploration
    of a controversial issue in class.
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    In order to protect
    both intellectual freedom
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    and their most vulnerable students,
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    some universities have formed teams
    that bring speaker and listener together,
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    free from the possibility of any sanction,
    to hear each other's viewpoints.
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    Sometimes students don't want to meet,
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    and that's fine,
    but in other circumstances,
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    mediated exposure to an opposing view
    can result in acknowledgment,
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    recognition of unintended consequences,
    and a broadening of perspectives.
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    Here's an example.
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    On a college campus, a group of students
    supporting the Israelis
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    and those supporting the Palestinians
    were constantly reporting each other
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    for disrupting events,
    tearing down posters,
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    and engaging in verbal confrontations.
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    Recognizing that most of
    what the students were reporting
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    did not violate the university's
    disciplinary code,
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    the university invited
    both groups to sit down
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    in a so-called restorative circle
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    where they could hear
    each other's viewpoints
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    free from the possibility of sanction.
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    After the meeting,
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    the ideological disagreements between
    the groups remained as stark as ever,
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    but the rancor between them
    significantly dissipated.
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    Now obviously, this doesn't always happen,
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    but by separating reactions to speech
    from the disciplinary system,
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    institutions of higher education
    have created a space
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    for productive disagreement
    and a broadening of perspectives.
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    We're all biased.
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    I don't mean that in a bad way.
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    All of us are influenced, and rightly so,
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    by our family background,
    our education, our lived experience,
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    and a million other things.
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    Organizations do have influences,
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    most importantly the beliefs
    of their members,
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    but also the laws
    under which they are governed
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    or the marketplace in which they compete.
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    These influences can form a critical part
    of a corporate identity,
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    and they can be vital
    for attracting and retaining talent,
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    but these biases, as I'm calling them,
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    can also be a challenge,
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    particularly when what
    we are talking about
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    is drawing lines for allowing
    some speech and not allowing others.
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    The temptation to find speech
    harmful or disruptive
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    simply because
    we disagree with it is real,
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    but equally real is the harm that can come
    from certain types of expression.
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    In this situation, third parties can help.
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    Remember the hotel trying to decide
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    whether or not to allow
    the religious group to host its event?
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    Rather than having to make
    a complex, on-the-spot decision
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    about that group's identity and message,
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    the hotel could instead
    rely on a third party,
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    say, for example,
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    the Southern Poverty Law Center,
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    which has a list of hate groups
    in the United States,
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    or indeed even its own
    outside group of experts
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    brought together from diverse backgrounds.
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    By relying on third parties
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    to draw lines outside the context
    of a particular event,
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    organizations can make content decisions
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    without being accused of acting
    in self-interest or bias.
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    The line between facts
    and opinions is a hazy one.
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    The internet provides the opportunity
    to publish almost any position
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    on any topic under the sun,
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    and in some ways that's a good thing.
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    It allows for the expression
    of minority viewpoints
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    and for holding
    those in power accountable.
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    But the ability to self-publish freely
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    means that unverified
    or even flat-out false statements
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    can quickly gain circulation and currency,
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    and that is very dangerous.
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    The decision to take down a post
    or ban a user is a tough one.
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    It certainly can be appropriate at times,
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    but there are other tools
    available as well
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    to foster productive
    and yet responsible debate.
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    Twitter has recently started
    labeling tweets as misleading,
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    deceptive,
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    or containing unverified information.
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    Rather than block access to those tweets,
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    Twitter instead links to a source
    that contains more information
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    about the claims made.
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    A good and timely example
    is its coronavirus page,
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    which has up-to-the-minute information
    about the spread of the virus
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    and what to do if you contract it.
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    To me, this approach makes a ton of sense.
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    Rather than shutting down dialogue,
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    this brings more ideas,
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    facts and context to the forum,
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    and if you know that your assertions
    are going to be held up
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    against more authoritative sources,
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    it may create incentives
    for more responsible speech
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    in the first place.
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    Let me end with a hard truth.
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    The structures I've described
    can foster productive debate
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    while isolating truly harmful speech,
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    but inevitably some speech
    is going to fall in a grey area,
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    perhaps deeply offensive
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    but also with the potential
    to contribute to public debate.
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    In this situation,
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    I think as a general matter,
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    the tie should go to allowing
    more rather than less speech.
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    Here's why.
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    For one, there's always the risk
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    that an innovative
    or creative idea gets squelched
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    because it seems unfamiliar or dangerous.
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    Almost by definition,
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    innovative ideas challenge orthodoxies
    about how things should be.
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    So if an idea seems
    offensive or dangerous,
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    it could be because it is,
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    or it might simply be
    because we're scared of change.
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    But let me suggest that even if
    speech has little to no value at all,
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    that deficiency should be shown
    through open debate
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    rather than suppression.
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    To be very clear,
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    false speech can lead
    to devastating real-world harms,
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    from the burning of women
    accused of being witches in Europe
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    in the 15th century
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    to the lynching of African-Americans
    in the American South,
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    to the Rwandan Genocide.
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    The idea that the remedy
    for false speech is more speech
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    isn't always true.
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    But I do think more often than not
    more speech can help.
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    A famous story from First Amendment
    case law shows why.
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    In 1977, a group of Neo-Nazis
    wanted to stage a march
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    through the leafy, peaceful suburb
    of Skokie, Illinois,
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    home to a significant number
    of Holocaust survivors.
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    The City Council immediately passed
    ordinances trying to block the Nazis,
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    and the Nazis sued.
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    The case made it all the way
    up to the Supreme Court
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    and back down again.
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    The courts held that the Neo-Nazis
    had the right to march,
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    and that they could
    display their swastikas
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    and give their salutes while doing so.
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    But when the day for the march came,
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    and after all that litigation,
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    just 20 Neo-Nazis showed up
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    in front of the Federal Building
    in Chicago, Illinois,
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    and they were met
    by 2,000 counter-protesters
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    responding to the Nazis' messages of hate
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    with ones of inclusion.
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    As the Chicago Tribune noted,
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    the Nazi march sputtered
    to an unspectacular end after 10 minutes.
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    The violence in Charlottesville, Virginia,
    and indeed around the world
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    shows this isn't always
    how these stories end,
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    but to me the Skokie story is a good one,
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    one that shows that the fallacy
    and moral bankruptcy of hateful speech
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    can best be responded to
    not through suppression
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    but through the righteous power
    of countervailing good and noble ideas.
Title:
How to foster productive and responsible debate
Speaker:
Ishan Bhabha
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Video Language:
English
Team:
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Project:
TEDTalks
Duration:
09:32

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