1 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 What if you own a hotel, 2 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and one of the key principles in your mission statement 3 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 is a commitment to treat all employees and customers equally, 4 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 including on the basis of gender and religion? 5 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And then a large group books an event at your space, 6 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and when you look at the booking, 7 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 you realize that it's a religious group, 8 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and one of their key principles 9 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 is that women should never leave the home 10 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and should have no opportunities for professional development 11 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 outside of it? 12 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 What do you do? 13 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Do you host the event 14 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and get criticized by some, 15 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 or refuse and get criticized by others? 16 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 In my work, I counsel organizations on how to create rules 17 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to navigate ideological disagreement and controversial speech, 18 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and I defend my clients, 19 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 whether in court or from the government when their actions are challenged. 20 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The structures I recommend recognize the real harms 21 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that can come from certain types of speech, 22 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but at the same time seek to promote dialogue rather than shut it down. 23 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The reason is that we need disagreement. 24 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Creativity and human progress 25 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 depend on it. 26 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 While it may be often easier 27 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to speak with someone who agrees with everything you say, 28 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 it's more enlightening and oftentimes more satisfying 29 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to speak with someone who doesn't. 30 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 But disagreement and discord can have real and meaningful costs. 31 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Disagreement, particularly in the form of hateful speech, 32 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 can lead to deep and lasting wounds and sometimes result in violence. 33 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And in a world in which polarization and innovation are increasing 34 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 at seemingly exponential rates, 35 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the need to create structures for vigorous but not violent disagreement 36 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 have never been more important. 37 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The US Constitution's First Amendment might seem like a good place to start 38 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to go to look for answers. 39 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 You, like I, may have often heard somebody say 40 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that some form of a speech restriction, whether from an employer, a website, 41 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 or even somebody else, violates the First Amendment. 42 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 But in fact the First Amendment usually has little if any relevance at all. 43 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The First Amendment only applies when the government is seeking 44 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to suppress the speech of its citizens. 45 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 As a result, the First Amendment is by design a blunt instrument. 46 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 A narrow category of speech can be banned based on its content. 47 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Almost everything else cannot. 48 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 But the First Amendment has no relevance 49 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 when what we're talking about is a private entity regulating speech, 50 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and that's a good thing, 51 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 because it means private entities have at their disposal 52 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 a broad and flexible set of tools that don't prohibit speech, 53 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but do make speakers aware of the consequences of their words. 54 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Here are some examples. 55 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 When you go to university, 56 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 it's a time for the free and unrestricted exchange of ideas, 57 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but some ideas, 58 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and the words used to express them, can cause discord, 59 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 whether it's an intentionally inflammatory event hosted by a student group, 60 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 or the exploration of a controversial issue in class. 61 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 In order to protect both intellectual freedom 62 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and their most vulnerable students, 63 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 some universities have formed teams that bring speaker and listener together, 64 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 free from the possibility of any sanction, to hear each other's viewpoints. 65 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Sometimes students don't want to meet, 66 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and that's fine, but in other circumstances, 67 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 mediated exposure to an opposing view can result in acknowledgment, 68 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 recognition of unintended consequences, and a broadening of perspectives. 69 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Here's an example. 70 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 On a college campus, a group of students supporting the Israelis 71 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and those supporting the Palestinians were constantly reporting each other 72 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 for disrupting events, tearing down posters, 73 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and engaging in verbal confrontations. 74 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Recognizing that most of what the students were reporting 75 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 did not violate the university's disciplinary code, 76 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the university invited both groups to sit down 77 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 in a so-called restorative circle 78 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 where they could hear each other's viewpoints 79 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 free from the possibility of sanction. 80 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 After the meeting, 81 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the ideological disagreements between the groups remained as stark as ever, 82 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but the rancor between them significantly dissipated. 83 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Now obviously, this doesn't always happen, 84 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but by separating reactions to speech from the disciplinary system, 85 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 institutions of higher education have created a space 86 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 for productive disagreement and a broadening of perspectives. 87 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 We're all biased. 88 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I don't mean that in a bad way. 89 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 All of us are influenced, and rightly so, 90 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 by our family background, our education, our lived experience, 91 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and a million other things. 92 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Organizations do have influences, 93 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 most importantly the beliefs of their members, 94 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but also the laws under which they are governed 95 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 or the marketplace in which they compete. 96 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 These influences can form a critical part of a corporate identity, 97 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and they can be vital for attracting and retaining talent, 98 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but these biases, as I'm calling them, 99 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 can also be a challenge, 100 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 particularly when what we are talking about 101 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 is drawing lines for allowing some speech and not allowing others. 102 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The temptation to find speech harmful or disruptive 103 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 simply because we disagree with it is real, 104 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but equally real is the harm that can come from certain types of expression. 105 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 In this situation, third parties can help. 106 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Remember the hotel trying to decide 107 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 whether or not to allow the religious group to host its event? 108 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Rather than having to make a complex, on-the-spot decision 109 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 about that group's identity and message, 110 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the hotel could instead rely on a third party, 111 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 say, for example, 112 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the Southern Poverty Law Center, 113 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 which has a list of hate groups in the United States, 114 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 or indeed even its own outside group of experts 115 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 brought together from diverse backgrounds. 116 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 By relying on third parties 117 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to draw lines outside the context of a particular event, 118 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 organizations can make content decisions 119 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 without being accused of acting in self-interest or bias. 120 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The line between facts and opinions is a hazy one. 121 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The internet provides the opportunity to publish almost any position 122 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 on any topic under the sun, 123 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and in some ways that's a good thing. 124 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It allows for the expression of minority viewpoints 125 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and for holding those in power accountable. 126 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 But the ability to self-publish freely 127 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 means that unverified or even flat-out false statements 128 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 can quickly gain circulation and currency, 129 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and that is very dangerous. 130 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The decision to take down a post or ban a user is a tough one. 131 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It certainly can be appropriate at times, 132 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but there are other tools available as well 133 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to foster productive and yet responsible debate. 134 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Twitter has recently started labeling tweets as misleading, 135 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 deceptive, 136 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 or containing unverified information. 137 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Rather than block access to those tweets, 138 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Twitter instead links to a source that contains more information 139 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 about the claims made. 140 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 A good and timely example is its coronavirus page, 141 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 which has up-to-the-minute information about the spread of the virus 142 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and what to do if you contract it. 143 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 To me, this approach makes a ton of sense. 144 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Rather than shutting down dialogue, 145 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 this brings more ideas, 146 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 facts and context to the forum, 147 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and if you know that your assertions are going to be held up 148 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 against more authoritative sources, 149 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 it may create incentives for more responsible speech 150 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 in the first place. 151 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Let me end with a hard truth. 152 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The structures I've described can foster productive debate 153 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 while isolating truly harmful speech, 154 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but inevitably some speech is going to fall in a grey area, 155 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 perhaps deeply offensive 156 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but also with the potential to contribute to public debate. 157 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 In this situation, 158 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I think as a general matter, 159 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the tie should go to allowing more rather than less speech. 160 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Here's why. 161 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 For one, there's always the risk 162 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that an innovative or creative idea gets squelched 163 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 because it seems unfamiliar or dangerous. 164 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Almost by definition, 165 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 innovative ideas challenge orthodoxies about how things should be. 166 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So if an idea seems offensive or dangerous, 167 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 it could be because it is, 168 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 or it might simply be because we're scared of change. 169 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 But let me suggest that even if speech has little to no value at all, 170 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that deficiency should be shown through open debate 171 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 rather than suppression. 172 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 To be very clear, 173 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 false speech can lead to devastating real-world harms, 174 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 from the burning of women accused of being witches in Europe 175 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 in the 15th century 176 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to the lynching of African-Americans in the American South, 177 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to the Rwandan Genocide. 178 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The idea that the remedy for false speech is more speech 179 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 isn't always true. 180 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 But I do think more often than not more speech can help. 181 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 A famous story from First Amendment case law shows why. 182 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 In 1977, a group of Neo-Nazis wanted to stage a march 183 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 through the leafy, peaceful suburb of Skokie, Illinois, 184 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 home to a significant number of Holocaust survivors. 185 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The City Council immediately passed ordinances trying to block the Nazis, 186 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and the Nazis sued. 187 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The case made it all the way up to the Supreme Court 188 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and back down again. 189 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The courts held that the Neo-Nazis had the right to march, 190 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and that they could display their swastikas 191 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and give their salutes while doing so. 192 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 But when the day for the march came, 193 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and after all that litigation, 194 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 just 20 Neo-Nazis showed up 195 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 in front of the Federal Building in Chicago, Illinois, 196 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and they were met by 2,000 counter-protesters 197 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 responding to the Nazis' messages of hate 198 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 with ones of inclusion. 199 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 As the Chicago Tribune noted, 200 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the Nazi march sputtered to an unspectacular end after 10 minutes. 201 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The violence in Charlottesville, Virginia, and indeed around the world 202 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 shows this isn't always how these stories end, 203 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but to me the Skokie story is a good one, 204 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 one that shows that the fallacy and moral bankruptcy of hateful speech 205 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 can best be responded to not through suppression 206 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but through the righteous power of countervailing good and noble ideas.