WEBVTT 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 What if you own a hotel, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and one of the key principles in your mission statement 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 is a commitment to treat all employees and customers equally, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 including on the basis of gender and religion? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And then a large group books an event at your space, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and when you look at the booking, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 you realize that it's a religious group, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and one of their key principles 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 is that women should never leave the home 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and should have no opportunities for professional development 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 outside of it? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 What do you do? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Do you host the event 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and get criticized by some, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 or refuse and get criticized by others? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 In my work, I counsel organizations on how to create rules 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to navigate ideological disagreement and controversial speech, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and I defend my clients, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 whether in court or from the government when their actions are challenged. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 The structures I recommend recognize the real harms 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that can come from certain types of speech, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but at the same time seek to promote dialogue rather than shut it down. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 The reason is that we need disagreement. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Creativity and human progress 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 depend on it. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 While it may be often easier 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to speak with someone who agrees with everything you say, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 it's more enlightening and oftentimes more satisfying 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to speak with someone who doesn't. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 But disagreement and discord can have real and meaningful costs. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Disagreement, particularly in the form of hateful speech, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 can lead to deep and lasting wounds and sometimes result in violence. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 And in a world in which polarization and innovation are increasing 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 at seemingly exponential rates, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 the need to create structures for vigorous but not violent disagreement 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 have never been more important. NOTE Paragraph 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 The US Constitution's First Amendment might seem like a good place to start 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to go to look for answers. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 You, like I, may have often heard somebody say 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that some form of a speech restriction, whether from an employer, a website, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 or even somebody else, violates the First Amendment. NOTE Paragraph 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 But in fact the First Amendment usually has little if any relevance at all. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 The First Amendment only applies when the government is seeking 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to suppress the speech of its citizens. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 As a result, the First Amendment is by design a blunt instrument. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 A narrow category of speech can be banned based on its content. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Almost everything else cannot. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 But the First Amendment has no relevance 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 when what we're talking about is a private entity regulating speech, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and that's a good thing, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 because it means private entities have at their disposal 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 a broad and flexible set of tools that don't prohibit speech, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but do make speakers aware of the consequences of their words. NOTE Paragraph 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Here are some examples. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 When you go to university, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 it's a time for the free and unrestricted exchange of ideas, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but some ideas, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and the words used to express them, can cause discord, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 whether it's an intentionally inflammatory event hosted by a student group, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 or the exploration of a controversial issue in class. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 In order to protect both intellectual freedom 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and their most vulnerable students, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 some universities have formed teams that bring speaker and listener together, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 free from the possibility of any sanction, to hear each other's viewpoints. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Sometimes students don't want to meet, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and that's fine, but in other circumstances, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 mediated exposure to an opposing view can result in acknowledgment, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 recognition of unintended consequences, and a broadening of perspectives. NOTE Paragraph 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Here's an example. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 On a college campus, a group of students supporting the Israelis 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and those supporting the Palestinians were constantly reporting each other 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 for disrupting events, tearing down posters, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and engaging in verbal confrontations. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Recognizing that most of what the students were reporting 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 did not violate the university's disciplinary code, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 the university invited both groups to sit down 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 in a so-called restorative circle 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 where they could hear each other's viewpoints 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 free from the possibility of sanction. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 After the meeting, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 the ideological disagreements between the groups remained as stark as ever, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but the rancor between them significantly dissipated. NOTE Paragraph 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Now obviously, this doesn't always happen, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but by separating reactions to speech from the disciplinary system, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 institutions of higher education have created a space 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 for productive disagreement and a broadening of perspectives. NOTE Paragraph 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 We're all biased. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I don't mean that in a bad way. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 All of us are influenced, and rightly so, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 by our family background, our education, our lived experience, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and a million other things. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Organizations do have influences, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 most importantly the beliefs of their members, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but also the laws under which they are governed 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 or the marketplace in which they compete. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 These influences can form a critical part of a corporate identity, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and they can be vital for attracting and retaining talent, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but these biases, as I'm calling them, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 can also be a challenge, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 particularly when what we are talking about 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 is drawing lines for allowing some speech and not allowing others. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 The temptation to find speech harmful or disruptive 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 simply because we disagree with it is real, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but equally real is the harm that can come from certain types of expression. NOTE Paragraph 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 In this situation, third parties can help. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Remember the hotel trying to decide 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 whether or not to allow the religious group to host its event? 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Rather than having to make a complex, on-the-spot decision 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 about that group's identity and message, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 the hotel could instead rely on a third party, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 say, for example, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 the Southern Poverty Law Center, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 which has a list of hate groups in the United States, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 or indeed even its own outside group of experts 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 brought together from diverse backgrounds. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 By relying on third parties 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to draw lines outside the context of a particular event, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 organizations can make content decisions 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 without being accused of acting in self-interest or bias. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 The line between facts and opinions is a hazy one. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 The internet provides the opportunity to publish almost any position 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 on any topic under the sun, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and in some ways that's a good thing. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 It allows for the expression of minority viewpoints 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and for holding those in power accountable. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 But the ability to self-publish freely 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 means that unverified or even flat-out false statements 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 can quickly gain circulation and currency, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and that is very dangerous. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 The decision to take down a post or ban a user is a tough one. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 It certainly can be appropriate at times, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but there are other tools available as well 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to foster productive and yet responsible debate. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Twitter has recently started labeling tweets as misleading, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 deceptive, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 or containing unverified information. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Rather than block access to those tweets, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Twitter instead links to a source that contains more information 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 about the claims made. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 A good and timely example is its coronavirus page, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 which has up-to-the-minute information about the spread of the virus 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and what to do if you contract it. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 To me, this approach makes a ton of sense. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Rather than shutting down dialogue, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 this brings more ideas, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 facts and context to the forum, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and if you know that your assertions are going to be held up 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 against more authoritative sources, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 it may create incentives for more responsible speech 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 in the first place. NOTE Paragraph 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Let me end with a hard truth. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 The structures I've described can foster productive debate 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 while isolating truly harmful speech, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but inevitably some speech is going to fall in a grey area, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 perhaps deeply offensive 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but also with the potential to contribute to public debate. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 In this situation, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 I think as a general matter, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 the tie should go to allowing more rather than less speech. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Here's why. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 For one, there's always the risk 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that an innovative or creative idea gets squelched 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 because it seems unfamiliar or dangerous. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 Almost by definition, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 innovative ideas challenge orthodoxies about how things should be. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 So if an idea seems offensive or dangerous, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 it could be because it is, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 or it might simply be because we're scared of change. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 But let me suggest that even if speech has little to no value at all, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 that deficiency should be shown through open debate 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 rather than suppression. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 To be very clear, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 false speech can lead to devastating real-world harms, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 from the burning of women accused of being witches in Europe 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 in the 15th century 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to the lynching of African-Americans in the American South, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 to the Rwandan Genocide. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 The idea that the remedy for false speech is more speech 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 isn't always true. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 But I do think more often than not more speech can help. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 A famous story from First Amendment case law shows why. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 In 1977, a group of Neo-Nazis wanted to stage a march 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 through the leafy, peaceful suburb of Skokie, Illinois, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 home to a significant number of Holocaust survivors. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 The City Council immediately passed ordinances trying to block the Nazis, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and the Nazis sued. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 The case made it all the way up to the Supreme Court 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and back down again. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 The courts held that the Neo-Nazis had the right to march, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and that they could display their swastikas 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and give their salutes while doing so. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 But when the day for the march came, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and after all that litigation, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 just 20 Neo-Nazis showed up 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 in front of the Federal Building in Chicago, Illinois, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 and they were met by 2,000 counter-protesters 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 responding to the Nazis' messages of hate 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 with ones of inclusion. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 As the Chicago Tribune noted, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 the Nazi march sputtered to an unspectacular end after 10 minutes. 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 The violence in Charlottesville, Virginia, and indeed around the world 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 shows this isn't always how these stories end, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but to me the Skokie story is a good one, 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 one that shows that the fallacy and moral bankruptcy of hateful speech 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 can best be responded to not through suppression 99:59:59.999 --> 99:59:59.999 but through the righteous power of countervailing good and noble ideas.