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Dharma Talk from the 30th of March 2014

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    Good morning, dear sangha
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    Today is Sunday, the 30th of March 2014
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    We are in the Assembly of Stars meditation hall
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    of the Dharma Nectar Temple,
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    Lower Hamlet, Plum Village
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    This is our second week of the spring session
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    When you breathe in mindfully,
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    you bring your mind home to your body
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    Your inbreath is like a vehicle, a car
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    bringing your mind home to your body
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    It takes only 2 or 3 seconds
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    in order for you to bring your mind
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    home to your body.
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    In our daily lives,
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    very often our body is there,
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    but our mind is elsewhere.
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    Our mind is in the future, in our projects,
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    in the past,
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    caught in anger, fear, anxiety,
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    and very seldom our mind is
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    with our body.
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    That is why, when you bring attention
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    to your inbreath, and breathe in,
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    you bring your mind home to your body.
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    It takes only 2 to 3 seconds
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    for the mind to go home to the body.
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    And when mind and body are together,
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    you are there, you are truly there,
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    in the here and the now
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    and you can get in touch with the wonders of life
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    that are available in the here and in the now
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    for your transformation and healing.
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    It's very easy.
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    To breathe in and to focus your attention
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    only on your inbreath.
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    And it is also very pleasant to do.
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    How wonderful to breathe in.
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    And if you really pay attention to your inbreath,
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    your inbreath becomes the only object of your mind.
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    You are concentrated on your inbreath,
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    you are mindful of your inbreath,
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    and you release everything else.
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    You release the past, the future,
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    your projects, your worries,
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    and you become a free person.
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    And therefore freedom is possible
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    with one inbreath.
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    Mindfulness and concentration
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    directed to your inbreath
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    help you to release everything else
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    and you become a free person.
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    And if you want to keep that freedom,
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    then you can breathe out also mindfully.
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    Breathing out mindfully,
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    you focus your attention on your outbreath,
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    you are concentrated on your outbreath,
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    and your mind is only with your outbreath.
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    Everything else cannot cling to you -
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    the past, the future, your worries, your fear.
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    You are free from that.
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    So with the practice of mindful breathing,
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    you can cultivate freedom,
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    and you can preserve that freedom
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    as long as you wish.
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    2 minutes, 3 minutes, 4 minutes.
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    If you know how to practice mindful breathing,
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    mindful walking,
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    you keep your freedom.
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    You are not pulled away by the past,
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    by the future, by your worries, your projects.
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    You breathe as a free person,
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    and you walk as a free person.
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    And if you are to make a decision,
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    the decision will be good
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    because you are not influenced
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    by your fear, your anger.
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    If you make a decision
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    when you are angry or fearful
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    that is not a good one.
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    But when you are free
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    free from anger, from fear,
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    from jealousy, from hate,
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    from the past, from the future,
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    then you can make the best kind of decision.
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    Next time when you are to make a decision,
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    restore your freedom
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    by the practice of mindful breathing,
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    mindful walking,
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    and in that state of being free,
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    you can make a good decision
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    for you and for other people.
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    When you spend 2 hours with your computer,
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    you forget entirely that you have a body.
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    During that time, you are absorbed in your work,
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    and your mind is not with your body.
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    You are not alive, truly alive,
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    during that moment.
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    You are lost in your work, your projects,
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    your thinking, your planning.
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    In Plum Village, many of us
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    have a bell of mindfulness in our computer
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    and every quarter of an hour,
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    you hear the bell of mindfulness
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    and you stop working,
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    you go back to your body,
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    by the way of mindful breathing,
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    and you feel alive again,
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    you bring your mind home to your body,
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    you enjoy breathing in and out,
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    you become fully alive,
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    you smile to life,
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    and after that you continue your work.
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    And that is a good way not to be pulled away
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    for a long time
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    from the present moment.
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    Ant that helps you
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    to release the tension in your body
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    and keep your freshness,
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    keep your joy and happiness.
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    The bell of mindfulness
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    is a call
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    calling you back to the present moment
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    for you to be alive
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    for you to be free
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    in order to get in touch
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    with the wonders of life that are available
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    in the here and in the now.
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    When I do mindful movements,
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    it is not my intention to have good health,
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    but I just enjoy having a body
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    I enjoy the movements.
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    So joy, happiness is available
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    during the time I practice these mindful movements.
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    You do it for your own enjoyment,
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    not for your health or anything else.
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    So from the parking lot, walking to your office,
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    you might like to walk in such a way,
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    that every step can release the tension in your body,
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    every step can bring you home to the here and now
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    so that you can touch the wonders of life
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    available in you and around you.
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    If one inbreath can bring you home to your body,
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    to the here and now,
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    then one step you make can also bring you home
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    to the here and now.
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    You arrive in the here and now with every step.
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    Your destination is not the office, the workplace.
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    Your destination is in the here and now.
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    And every breath, every step brings you home
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    to the here and now so that you can
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    be alive.
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    Because we know that the past is already gone,
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    and the future is not yet there.
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    There is only one moment
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    when you can be truly alive.
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    That is the present moment.
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    And you have an appointment with life
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    in the present moment.
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    And if you miss the present moment
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    you miss your appointment with life.
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    Which is very serious.
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    You run to the future,
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    you take refuge in the past,
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    and you miss the present moment.
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    There are those of us who are caught in the past
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    who have no capacity to get out
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    of the prison of the past
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    in order to enjoy life in the present moment.
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    There are those of us who are caught
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    in the prison of the future
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    who only think of the future.
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    we don't think that happiness is possible
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    in the present moment.
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    So the basic practice is to always go home
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    to the here and the now.
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    And the practice of mindful breathing,
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    mindful walking,
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    can bring you home to the here and the now.
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    Body and mind together so that you can touch
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    the wonders of life that have the power
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    to nourish and transform you, to heal you.
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    And that is why, when we come to Plum Village,
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    we should learn to master the art of breathing
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    and walking.
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    These two practices can help us
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    to be free from the past and the future
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    and to live deeply every moment that is given to us.
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    So from the parking lot, walking to your office,
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    you walk in such a way that each step
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    makes you a free person. You enjoy every step.
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    Every step brings you to the here and the now
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    so that you can get in touch with the blue sky,
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    the beautiful trees, the songs of the birds.
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    Every wonder of life is available
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    in the here and the now.
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    And walking like that, you release the tension
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    in your body with every step
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    You don't need extra time to practice meditation,
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    walking meditation,
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    because from the parking lot to your office,
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    you can walk like that as a free person.
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    You stop all the thinking together,
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    you just enjoy every step, and
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    you just feel
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    the presence of the wonders of life
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    in yourself and around you.
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    And every one of us can practice like that.
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    Last time, we have learned the 7th ad the 8th
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    exercise of mindful breathing.
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    And you remember the 7th exercise
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    of mindful breathing is to recognize
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    a painful feeling that is coming up.
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    Breathing in, I'm aware of the pain within myself.
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    Breathing out, I smile to the pain within myself.
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    That is the 7th exercise.
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    "aware of pain"
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    There is a painful feeling coming up.
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    You know it.
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    And as a practitioner, you know how to handle
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    a painful feeling.
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    The 7th exercise is to recognize the feeling.
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    You do not try to run away from it
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    like many people.
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    You have to be there for your pain.
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    Most of us are afraid to be overwhelmed
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    by the pain inside.
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    The painful feeling the painful emotion,
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    not many of us know how to handle
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    a painful feeling, a painful emotion.
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    And most of us try to run away
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    or to cover them up with consumptions.
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    We use music, newspapers, television, internet
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    in order to cover up the pain in us.
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    We do not have the courage
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    to face, to recognize the pain in us.
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    So the practitioner does not do like that.
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    He practices mindful breathing,
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    he practices mindful walking
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    and generating the energy of mindfulness.
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    And with that energy of mindfulness,
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    he's stronger.
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    He can go home to himself
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    and recognize the pain, and embrace it
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    like a mother embracing her ailing baby.
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    So the 7th exercise is:
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    "Breathing in, I am aware of the painful feeling in me,
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    breathing out, I embrace the painful feeling in me."
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    There is the energy of pain
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    and there is the energy of mindfulness
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    generated by the practice
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    of breathing or walking.
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    So it is the second energy
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    that is recognizing the first energy.
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    That is the 7th exercise of mindful breathing
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    proposed by the Buddha.
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    Breathing in, I know that a painful feeling is in me.
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    Breathing out, I smile, I recognize
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    the painful feeling in me.
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    And the 8th exercise
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    is to calm down
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    the painful feeling
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    the way a mother is holding her ailing baby.
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    So mindfulness is a kind mother,
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    or big brother, or big sister,
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    holding the child of suffering.
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    The first thing you do is
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    to use the energy of mindfulness
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    to recognize the pain.
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    And the second thing you do
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    is to embrace your pain tenderly,
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    like a mother holding her baby.
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    A mother has the energy of tenderness,
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    and that energy of tenderness penetrates
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    into the body of the baby.
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    The baby suffers less.
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    After a few minutes,
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    the baby may stop crying,
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    because the energy of tenderness has
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    penetrated into the energy of pain.
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    So with the practitioner who knows how to
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    generate the energies
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    of mindfulness and concentration,
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    it is possible to recognize,
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    embrace the pain,
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    and calm it down.
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    By the practice of mindful breathing,
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    mindful walking,
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    you can stay with your pain,
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    and you can calm it down.
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    And you are not overwhelmed by the pain,
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    because you do have a kind of energy,
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    that has the power to recognize
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    and to embrace.
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    And everyone can generate the energies
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    of mindfulness and concentration
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    with the practices of mindful breathing,
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    mindful walking.
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    Mindfulness of breathing,
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    mindfulness of walking -
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    that is the practice.
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    After having held the baby for a few minutes,
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    and helping the baby to suffer less,
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    the mother can find out
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    what is wrong with the baby.
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    The baby may have a fever,
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    or the baby may be hungry.
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    After having discovered that,
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    the mother can change the situation very quickly.
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    And after having used the energies
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    of mindfulness and concentration
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    to embrace your pain and calm it down,
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    you get the insight as to why
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    there is that kind of pain in yourself.
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    And you can find the roots of the pain in yourself.
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    And with the other exercise that follows,
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    you can very well transform the pain in you
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    into something more positive.
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    And we have the exercises nr. 9, 10, 11, 12
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    But you are curious to know
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    what is the exercise number 6,
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    and what is the exercise number 5.
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    Exercise nr. 5 is to generate a feeling of joy.
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    Generate joy.
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    And the 6th is to generate happiness.
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    A good practitioner can always
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    bring about a feeling of joy
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    whenever she wants.
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    A good practitioner can always
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    generate a feeling of happiness
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    whenever he wants.
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    And how?
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    It's not too difficult.
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    Because when you practice mindful breathing,
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    and you breathe in, and you bring
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    your mind home to your body,
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    you become fully present in the here and the now.
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    You realize what we call
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    the oneness of body and mind.
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    Mind and body are together.
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    And when your mind is with your body,
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    you are established in the here and the now.
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    That's the first step.
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    And when you are established
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    in the here and the now,
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    you are in a position to recognize
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    the many wonders of life,
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    the many conditions of happiness
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    that you already have.
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    And most of us do not believe that happiness
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    is possible in the here and the now.
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    We need to run to the future in order to get some more.
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    And that is why we sacrifice the present moment
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    for the sake of the future.
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    But going home to the here and now,
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    you will be able to recognize the many
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    conditions of happiness that are already available to you.
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    More than enough for you to be happy
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    in the here and the now.
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    More... than enough.
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    The French have a song about that.
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    "Qu'est-ce qu'on attend pour être heureux?"
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    Why do we have to wait in order to be happy?
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    Because in the here and the now,
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    there are so many conditions of happiness
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    that are already available!
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    Take a piece of paper and write down
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    the conditions of happiness that you have
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    and you will see that one page is not enough,
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    two pages are not enough,
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    three pages are not enough.
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    You are luckier than many people in the world.
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    And if you are not happy in the here and now,
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    that's your fault.
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    Because you are not there in order to recognize them.
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    So to generate a feeling of joy is always possible
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    when you touch the conditions of happiness
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    that are already available to you.
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    Your eyes, still in good condition, is already
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    a condition of happiness.
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    You just open your eyes
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    and you see the face of your beloved one,
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    you see the blue sky,
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    you see the trees,
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    you see the hills, you see the river
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    and the stars.
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    So your eyes is one condition of happiness.
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    And there are plenty of them in your body,
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    (conditions of happiness),
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    there are plenty around you,
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    and if you are in the here and now,
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    you can touch many of them, and to generate
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    a feeling of joy or happiness is something
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    very easy to do at any time.
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    Good condition that you have some
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    mindfulness and concentration in you.
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    And you know very well that to have that
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    energy of mindfulness and concentration,
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    you can practice mindful breathing, mindful walking.
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    So that is the 5th exercise of mindful breathing.
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    to generate a feeling of joy whenever you want.
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    The 6th exercise is to generate
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    a feeling of happiness whenever you want.
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    And this is the art of happiness.
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    Creating moments of joy,
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    Creating moments of happiness for you
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    and for the other person.
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    If you are not joyful, if you are not happy,
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    you do not have much to offer to him or to her.
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    So to practice generating joy and happiness for you,
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    you have something to offer to him or to her.
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    And the next two exercises:
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    to become aware of the painful feeling
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    and to calm it down,
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    is the art of suffering, the art of
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    handling suffering.
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    And we have learned last time that
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    if we know how to suffer,
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    we suffer much less.
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    We are not overwhelmed by the suffering,
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    because we know how to use the energies
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    of mindfulness and concentration
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    to recognize the pain and to embrace it
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    and to calm it down.
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    It's clear that if you know how to suffer,
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    you suffer much less. And you can go further.
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    You can make good use of the suffering
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    in order to create happiness - the way
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    we use mud in order to grow lotus flowers.
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    And it is an art,
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    the art to generate happiness,
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    the art of handling suffering.
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    The 4th exercise, and the 3rd, is about the body.
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    These 4 exercises are about the feelings.
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    Pleasant feeling, pleasant feeling
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    painful feeling, painful feeling.
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    How to generate pleasant feelings,
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    how to handle unpleasant feelings.
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    The 3rd exercise is to recognize,
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    to be aware of your body.
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    Breathing in, I am aware of my body.
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    Breathing in, I know I have a body.
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    Awareness of body.
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    You bring your mind home,
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    and you recognize the existence of your body.
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    It's like you go home
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    and you recognize the feeling of pain.
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    But here, to recognize the presence of your body.
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    And when you are home to your body,
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    you might notice that there is tension,
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    stress, and pain in your body.
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    Because you may have allowed
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    the tension to be accumulated in your body.
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    You have been working your body very hard,
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    and tension, pain accumulated in your body
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    make you suffer.
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    That is why the 3rd exercise of mindful breathing
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    is to go home to your body
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    and be aware of your body.
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    And when you are with your body, you might notice
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    that there is tension and pain in it -
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    that is why you have to use the 4th exercise -
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    to release the tension in your body.
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    Calming the body.
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    So the method is exactly the same.
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    Here, you are aware of the painful feeling,
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    and you calm down the painful feeling.
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    On this side, you are aware of your body,
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    and then you practice mindful breathing,
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    to calm your body, to release the tension in your body.
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    That is the praxis of relaxation -
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    releasing the tension in the body.
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    These 4 exercises are to take care of our body
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    while the other exercises
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    are to take care of our feelings.
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    The first one is recognizing,
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    to be aware of your inbreath and outbreath.
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    Breathing in, I am aware of my inbreath.
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    Breathing out, I am aware of my outbreath.
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    Recognizing your inbreath and your outbreath.
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    That is the first exercise.
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    Every beginner of meditation practices that.
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    It's very easy, but it's very deep.
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    Because if you really focus your attention
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    on your inbreath and your outbreath,
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    you release everything else,
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    and you become a free person.
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    Just paying attention to your inbreath and outbreath
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    can bring great results.
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    And the 2nd exercise of mindful breating
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    is to follow your inbreath
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    and your outbreath.
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    Suppose this marker represents
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    the length of your inbreath.
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    It begins here and it ends here.
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    Maybe 3, 4 seconds.
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    And suppose this finger is your mind.
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    I begin to breathe in.
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    Breathing in, I follow
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    my inbreath all the way through.
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    Breathing out, I follow my outbreath all the way through.
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    My finger sticks to the marker, my mind
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    follows very closely my inbreath and outbreath.
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    There is no interruption.
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    And breathing like that makes your mindfulness
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    and concentration more solid, deeper.
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    And if you are more mindful,
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    if you are more concentrated,
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    then the pleasure of breathing
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    will be greater.
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    Because breathing in and out can be very pleasant.
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    If you suffer when you breathe in,
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    that's not good practice.
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    And when you breathe in and you feel
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    pleasant, wonderful,
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    you enjoy your inbreath,
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    you know that is good practice.
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    To breathe and to be aware that you are alive
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    that can already bring you a lot of happiness
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    because a person who is already dead
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    does not breathe in anymore.
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    As I breathe in, I know I am alive.
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    And to be alive is a miracle -
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    it is the greatest of all miracles.
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    And that insight alone can bring happiness.
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    Just to sit there and breathe
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    can make you happy already.
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    So the very first exercise of mindful breathing
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    can already generate mindfulness, concentration
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    and bring you a lot of happiness
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    whether you are sitting on the grass
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    or you are sitting at the foot of a tree
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    and breathe in with mindfulness and concentration
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    you can be a happy person just breathing in and out.
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    Sitting on the bus, sitting on the train also,
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    instead of thinking of this and that,
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    you enjoy breathing in and out
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    and you enjoy the landscape.
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    One week in Plum Village is enough
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    for you to learn, to train yourself in the art
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    of mindful breathing and walking.
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    And you can experience joy, happiness,
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    and you know how to handle
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    the painful feeling, the painful emotion
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    that is coming up in you.
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    Last time, we also spoke about listening.
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    We listen to our own suffering.
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    While you hold your suffering tenderly,
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    you can listen to it
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    because you have mindfulness in you
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    you have the energies of mindfulness
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    and concentration in you.
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    You are not afraid of the pain in you.
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    With that energy of mindfulness and concentration,
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    you can look deeply into the nature
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    of your suffering.
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    You can listen to your own suffering.
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    Because your suffering may carry
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    within itself the suffering of your father,
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    of your mother, of your ancestors.
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    And understanding your suffering,
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    you understand the suffering of your mother,
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    your father, and your ancestors.
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    Maybe father and mother did not know
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    how to transform the suffering.
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    And that is why they have transmitted
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    that block of suffering to us.
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    And we don't know why we suffer that much.
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    The fact is that the suffering in us
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    carries within itself the suffering of our father,
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    our mother, our ancestors and our nation.
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    That's sure.
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    And that is why we need to have the time
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    to listen to our own suffering,
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    and to understand.
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    And in order to listen, you need
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    mindfulness and concentration.
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    So that you are not afraid
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    of being overwhelmed
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    by the suffering inside.
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    Looking deeply, and listening deeply
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    is the act of meditation. To meditate
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    is to have the time to look and to listen.
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    And the object of meditation
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    is our own suffering, our own pain.
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    And if you continue to look, to listen,
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    to your pain, your suffering,
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    you come to understand.
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    And understanding
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    will always bring compassion.
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    This is easy enough to understand.
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    When you look at the other person,
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    deeply... and with mindfulness,
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    you have a chance to see the suffering in him, or in her.
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    That person does not know how to handle
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    the suffering in him.
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    He continues to be the victim of his own suffering.
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    He makes himself suffer, and he makes
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    the people around suffer, including you.
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    So far, no one has told him
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    so far, no one has helped him to understand
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    and transform his suffering. That is why
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    he continues to suffer and to make
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    the people around him suffer.
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    When you suffer, you make people suffer
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    even the people you love.
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    Therefore, you should try to understand
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    your own suffering in order to suffer less.
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    Because understanding always
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    brings about compassion.
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    When you look at the other person deeply,
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    and if you recognize the suffering in him or her,
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    then you see that this person is the victim
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    of his own suffering.
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    And suddenly, understanding arises in you
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    and you are not angry at him anymore.
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    You don't want to punish anymore.
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    Your anger vanishes. Instead you want
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    to do something, to say something
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    to help him or her suffer less.
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    It means that understanding suffering
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    has already brought compassion into the heart.
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    Now you can begin to look at him
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    with compassion.
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    And you don't suffer anymore.
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    Compassion makes it possible for you to stop suffering.
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    It is very clear that when you understand
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    the suffering of someone, you don't want
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    to punish him anymore. You want to help.
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    So the formula is very clear.
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    Understanding brings compassion.
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    And when compassion is there, you
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    don't suffer anymore. No anger -
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    only the intention to help.
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    So when you look deeply into your own suffering,
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    you see the suffering of your father, your mother,
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    your ancestors and your nation,
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    and that kind of understanding brings about
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    compassion in your heart. And compassion
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    begins to heal you. One thing we have to remember
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    Compassion can heal us.
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    And that is why all of us should learn
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    how to generate the energy of compassion.
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    Stanford University has a committee of scientists
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    who study the effects of compassion.
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    The fact of healing by compassion.
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    And we spent one evening working with them
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    about how to generate the energy of compassion
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    in order to help heal ourselves and help
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    heal the other people around us.
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    Understanding here means understanding suffering -
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    your own suffering first. Because when you have
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    understood your own suffering, you suffer less.
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    And when you have understood your suffering,
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    it's much easier to understand the suffering
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    of the other person.
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    And this is possible with the practice of
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    listening deeply, with compassion
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    and using loving speech.
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    You listen to yourself with compassion
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    and you heal yourself,
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    and then you begin to listen
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    to him or to her with compassion,
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    and you help heal him or her.
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    The practice of deep listening,
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    compassionate listening,
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    and loving speech
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    can always restore communication
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    and bring about reconciliation.
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    You have to understand yourself,
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    you have to listen to yourself,
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    you have to reconcile with yourself,
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    because there may be a deep conflict within.
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    And once you have been able to reconcile with yourself,
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    you can reconcile very easily
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    with the other person
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    and end the difficulties in your relationship.
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    The other person may have a lot of
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    suffering in him.
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    And he may have not been able to listen
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    to his own suffering.
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    And maybe no one has listened to him.
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    And you who are a practitioner,
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    you know how to listen
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    to your own suffering.
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    and now you want to listen
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    to the suffering of the other person.
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    You come to him and say:
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    "Darling, I know you have suffered quite a lot
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    in the past many years."
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    And this is the practice of loving speech.
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    Tender, gentle speech, which is
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    the practice of the 4th mindfulness training.
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    You go to him or to her,
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    and because you have some compassion
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    in your heart,
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    you have seen the suffering in him or in her,
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    that is why you can use easily
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    what we call loving speech.
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    You say like this:
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    "Darling, my dear friend, I know you have
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    suffered quite a lot during the past many years,
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    and I was not able to help you.
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    In fact I have reacted in such a way
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    that made the situation worse.
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    I have made you suffer more.
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    I'm sorry.
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    Darling, I have reacted in such a way
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    because I did not see your suffering.
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    I did not understand the suffering in you.
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    Darling, it's not my intention to make you suffer.
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    Just because I did not understand
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    the suffering in you
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    and I believe that if I understood the suffering in you,
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    I would not react like that,
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    the way I have in the past.
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    So you've got to help me.
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    Please tell me what is in your heart.
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    Please tell me of your difficulties, your suffering,
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    your frustration. I want to hear.
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    Because I know that if I understand the suffering,
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    I will not react the way I have in the past.
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    You've got to help me. If you don't help me,
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    who will help me?"
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    That is the kind of speech that we must use
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    in order to open the heart of someone.
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    If you have seen some of his suffering,
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    and if you have some amount of compassion
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    in yourself, you are capable of using that
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    kind of speech that we call loving speech.
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    "Darling, I know you have suffered quite a lot
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    and I have reacted in such a way that made
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    you suffer more. I am sorry.
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    It's not my intention to make you suffer like that.
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    It's because I did not understand your suffering.
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    So darling, please help me. Tell me what is
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    in your heart. Tell me of your suffering,
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    your difficulties, so that I can understand.
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    And if we know how to use that kind of speech,
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    we can open the heart of someone.
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    He or she will tell you.
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    And now we have a chance to practice
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    deep listening, compassionate listening.
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    Because the practice of compassionate listening
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    can heal... can heal a person.
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    One hour of practice, of listening,
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    can already heal the other person.
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    When you listen,
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    you have to practice what we call
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    mindfulness of compassion.
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    in order to keep compassion alive in your heart.
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    Because if you don't train yourself,
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    you cannot listen to him or to her.
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    Because what the other person says,
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    might trigger anger in you,
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    irritation in you,
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    and when anger
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    comes, you can no longer listen,
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    you have lost your capacity
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    to listen to him or her.
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    Because what the other person says
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    might make you angry,
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    there may be some kind of
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    bitterness, blame, accusations
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    and that makes you angry,
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    and you want to correct him or her,
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    right away, and you transform the session
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    into a debate, and you ruin everything.
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    That is why you have to train yourself first.
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    You train yourself in the art of listening
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    to yourself.
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    You train yourself in order to see the suffering
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    in you. And then you train yourself to see
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    the suffering in him or in her.
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    And you tell yourself:
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    I am listening to him with only one purpose:
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    to make him suffer less.
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    The purpose is not to...
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    to find the truth,
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    to find out who is right or wrong.
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    The purpose is to help a person to suffer less.
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    I am going to listen in such a way
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    that can make him suffer less.
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    And therefore even if he says wrong things,
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    if what he says is full of wrong perceptions,
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    even if there is a lot of bitterness,
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    accusation, blame, I continue to listen.
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    I am not going to interrupt and correct him,
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    because I know that if I did that,
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    I will transform the session into a debate.
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    So I make the vow to listen.
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    Later on, in 3, 4, or 5 days,
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    I may have a chance to give him some information
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    so that he may correct his perception
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    but not now. Now is only to listen.
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    Even if he said wrong things,
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    if he had a lot of wrong information,
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    I will not stop him. Because I know
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    that will spoil the session. So I continue to listen
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    I will tell myself: "Poor fellow, he is victim
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    of so many wrong perceptions.
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    But I am not going to interrupt him now,
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    because if I did, I spoil the session.
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    So you continue to listen with compassion.
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    You know that you have time, later on,
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    to help him correct his perception
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    by offering him some information.
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    But not now.
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    And you can sit there and listen
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    for one hour or more.
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    And if you can remember that
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    the only purpose of your listening is
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    to help him empty his heart and suffer less,
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    and if you can remember that,
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    you nourish compassion in your heart,
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    and compassion is going to protect you
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    and not allow the anger in you to be triggered.
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    That is called mindfulness of compassion.
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    And during the time you listen to him or to her
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    practice mindfulness of compassion
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    so that compassion stays with you for the whole session
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    and you are able to listen to him
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    one hour, one hour and a half or so.
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    The retreats that we offer a little bit everywhere
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    usually last 6 days, or at least 5 days.
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    And during the first few days, we learn how to
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    recognize our feelings, our emotions
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    we learn how to get in touch with the wonders of life.
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    On the 3rd day, we begin to learn how to listen
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    to our suffering, and to learn about
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    listening to the suffering of the other person.
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    On the 5th day we try to apply the practice
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    of compassionate listening and loving speech
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    in order to reconcile with the other person.
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    If the other person is in the retreat,
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    that is much easier,
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    because that person has been exposed
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    to the teaching and the practice.
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    But if the other person is not in the retreat,
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    you have the right to use your telephone
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    in order to practice deep listening and loving speech.
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    So on the 5th day, you are told
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    that you have a chance to
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    use the practice of compassionate listening
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    and loving speech in order to reconcile
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    with the other person.
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    And the miracle of reconciliation always happens
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    in our retreats everywhere.
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    And on the last day of the retreat,
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    many people came and reported about
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    the fruit of their practice.
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    Many had been able to reconcile with
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    their husbands, their wives, their son and so on.
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    I remember that retreat in Oldenburg, north Germany.
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    That morning, 4 German gentlemen came to me
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    and reported that
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    the night before, they had been able
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    to reconcile with their father at home.
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    They had used the telephone in order to practice.
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    One of them said: "Dear Thay,
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    the moment I was making the phone call,
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    calling my father at home, I did not believe
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    I can succeed. Because I was very angry at him.
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    I have made the vow never to go and see him anymore.
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    So I did not believe that I can talk to him
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    the way you told us, using loving speech.
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    But when I heard his voice at the end of the line,
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    suddenly I found myself capable
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    of talking to him like that.
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    Daddy, I know you have suffered a lot
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    in the past many years.
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    I was not able to help you to suffer less
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    and I have reacted in such a way
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    that made you suffer more.
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    Daddy, I'm sorry.
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    It's not my intention to make you suffer like that.
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    Just because I did not see
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    and understand your suffering.
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    I believe that if I understood your suffering,
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    I would not have reacted the way I have
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    and made you suffer like that.
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    I'm sorry.
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    Please tell me, father, of your suffering,
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    of your difficulties. I want to know.
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    Because I'm sure that if I understood
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    your suffering, I would not behave,
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    I would not react the way I have in the past.
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    Please help me.
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    And on the other end of the line,
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    the father began to cry, because his son
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    has never talked to him that way.
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    That is the result, the fruit of the practice
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    called loving speech, compassionate speech.
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    It always works.
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    If you have some amount of understanding
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    in your heart,
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    if you can see the suffering in the other person,
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    you can speak like that.
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    You need only some time to look deeply
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    to see the suffering in him or in her,
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    to see that he has been the victim
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    of his own suffering for a long time,
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    and he does not need punishment.
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    He needs help. If you have that kind of insight
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    and compassion, you are surely capable
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    to use loving speech.
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    And dear Thay, I have talked with my father
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    for 1.5 hours, and we were able to reconcile.
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    And you know something, dear Thay,
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    the first thing I will do after the retreat
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    is to go straight to see him -
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    go to his house and visit him.
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    And many people in the retreat succeeded
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    in the practice of reconciling with the other person.
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    If you can listen to him or her,
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    they will be able to listen to you also,
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    and understand your suffering.
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    In Plum Village, we have in the past
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    sponsored groups of Israelis and Palestinians
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    to come practice with us
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    here.
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    It's very difficult to obtain visas for Palestinians.
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    We had to work closely with the foreign ministry
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    in order to get a number of visas.
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    And when the two groups came to Plum Village,
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    it was very difficult in the beginning.
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    They did not look at each other...
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    I guess that when they look at each other,
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    they suffer.
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    So we allowed them to stay in different places
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    and on the first days, we helped them to practice
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    in order to get in touch with the
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    refreshing and healing elements in nature.
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    Walking meditation, sitting meditation, tea meditation,
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    mindful eating, singing songs of the Dharma
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    and then we initiated them to the practice
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    of listening to their own suffering.
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    Listen to their own suffering.
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    And it's only in the second week that we brought
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    the two groups together for the practice
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    of listening deeply to each other.
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    One group is invited to speak out.
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    And they have been instructed that
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    they can tell everything about their suffering.
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    You can tell the other group
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    every kind of suffering that you have undergone.
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    Children and adults. You can tell them everything,
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    but please use a kind of speech
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    that can help them to understand.
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    Don't blame, don't accuse, just tell them
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    how you suffer - your children, your adults.
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    Because if you use that kind of speech
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    you help them to understand.
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    The purpose is to help them to understand
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    your own suffering.
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    Do not blame, do not accuse, just tell them
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    of your suffering The suffering you have undergone.
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    And with the other group,
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    who will be practicing deep listening,
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    we tell them to sit, breathe, and listen
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    with the practice of mindfulness of compassion.
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    We listen to them with only one purpose,
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    to help them to suffer less.
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    Because we know that they also have
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    a lot of suffering in them.
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    So the purpose of this session
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    is just to listen,
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    so that they can speak out, empty their hearts,
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    and suffer less.
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    So we are not going to interrupt them,
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    even if they have wrong information and so on.
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    So both groups were practicing
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    loving speech
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    and compassionate listening.
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    And the miracle --- CUT ---
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    When you listen like that,
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    you recognize that the other side
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    they have suffered exactly the same thing
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    like on your side - children and adults.
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    Before that, you believed that only
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    you suffer, the other side does not suffer,
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    they are only the cause of your suffering.
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    You believe that the other side
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    is the cause of your suffering.
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    But when you suffer, you listen like that,
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    you suddenly realize that they are human beings
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    who have suffered exactly like on your side.
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    And for the first time,
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    you see them as living beings
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    full of suffering.
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    And that kind of insight
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    helps anger to go down in you.
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    And you begin to look at them with compassion.
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    The first time, you see them as living beings
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    who have suffered exactly
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    the same kind of suffering
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    that on your side, you have suffered.
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    And when you look with the eyes of compassion,
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    you don't suffer anymore.
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    In the beginning, there was a lot of anger,
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    a lot of suspicion, a lot of fear,
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    but now, since you have been able
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    to see them as human beings
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    who have suffered a lot like you,
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    suddenly you feel compassion is born
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    in your heart, and for the first time,
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    you can look at them with compassion,
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    and when you look like that,
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    you don't suffer any more.
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    You don't want to retaliate,
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    you don't want to punish them any more,
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    and you want to say something, to do something,
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    to help them suffer less.
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    Transformation begins to take place in you.
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    And we have many sessions like that,
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    succeeding each other,
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    and each time, for this side to have their right
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    to speak about their suffering,
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    the other group will be listening.
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    And a few sessions like that
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    can heal the wounds of both of them.
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    And many of us who are not Palestinians
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    or Israelis, we sit with them,
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    we walk with them,
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    we eat with them,
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    we bring our mindfulness and concentration
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    as a collective energy to support their practice.
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    And now they began to eat together,
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    they began to walk together,
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    even holding hands to walk together.
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    It's very beautiful.
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    And on the last day of the retreat,
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    they always... both groups come together
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    as one group,
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    and reported to the whole community
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    about the fruit of their practice.
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    It's very moving to see the transformation
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    and healing taking place.
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    They always told us that when they go back
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    to the Middle East, they will organize
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    practice like that, so that other Israelis
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    and Palestinians can come to practice
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    to suffer less.
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    And in Plum Village, every year,
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    we send a delegation of monks and nuns
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    and lay people to the Middle East
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    and have organized retreats of mindfulness
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    so that people can come and practice with us.
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    We have sister Thay Nghiem... is she back already?
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    Thay Nghiem is in Israel
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    with other monks and nuns
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    offering a retreat for people in the Middle East.
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    So to restore communication,
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    and to reconcile is something possible
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    with the practice of mindfulness and concentration.
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    If you know how to practice
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    compassionate listening and loving speech,
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    you can restore communication,
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    you can reconcile.
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    I like to tell you this story
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    of a lady in America,
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    She's a catholic.
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    She wanted to commit suicide
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    because she did not see a way out.
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    The husband was a university professor,
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    they have children who are in college,
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    who are students in universities also,
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    but they did not have happiness,
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    because
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    there is a lot of anger in him,
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    despair in her,
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    and there is no communication.
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    She described him as a kind of bomb
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    ready to explode at any time.
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    That lady has a friend who is
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    a practitioner, a buddhist practitioner
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    of mindfulness
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    And the buddhist lady always tried to...
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    to get her to listen
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    to a Dharma talk given by Thay.
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    And the talk is about defusing a bomb.
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    Because the catholic lady always said:
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    "My husband was like a bomb -
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    so much anger ready to explode at any time."
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    So the buddhist lady said:
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    "I have a Dharma talk, given by my teacher
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    about how to defuse a bomb!
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    So why don't you listen and learn
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    to help your husband to transform his anger?"
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    But that catholic lady said:
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    "But I am a catholic, why do I have to listen to...
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    ... to a Dharma talk?!" So she refused.
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    But one day, she was in despair,
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    and she telephoned her friend
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    who is a buddhist practiioner:
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    "My dear friend,
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    I am going to kill myself tonight."
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    And the buddhist lady said:
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    "Well, please come, and visit me before you do so.
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    Take a taxi, come!
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    And tell me what is wrong."
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    And then, when the catholic lady came,
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    the buddhist lady said:
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    "Dear friend, you have told me
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    you have told me several times,
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    that I am your best friend,
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    and yet, I don't believe it so much,
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    because the only request that I made
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    is for you to listen to the talk of my teacher,
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    but you refused. How can I believe
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    that you are my best friend,
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    I am your best friend at all?"
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    That's a kind of challenge.
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    And the catholic lady said (to herself):
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    "Well, to satisfy her need, her request,
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    is not so difficult,
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    so I am going to listen to that talk,
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    and I will go home and kill myself later on."
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    So the buddhist lady was so happy,
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    so she gave the cassette tape,
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    because at that time
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    there was no CD... no Compact Disc,
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    and she withdrew and allowed the catholic lady
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    to be alone and to listen to the talk.
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    And you know that in the talk,
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    I spoke about compassionate listening,
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    loving speech, in order to restore communication
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    and to reconcile.
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    And the catholic lady sat down
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    and listened to the whole talk.
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    And something happened in her.
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    And when she finished listening to the talk,
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    she told her friend:
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    "I'm going home and I'll help my husband!"
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    "To defuse the bomb in him, I am going
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    to listen to him, with compassion,
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    so that he will suffer less.
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    I see that he has a lot of suffering in him,
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    and I have not helped him at all -
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    I have reacted in such a way
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    that made him suffer more.
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    I'm going to practice deep listening,
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    compassionate listening,
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    to help him suffer less.
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    The buddhist lady said: "Well,
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    you have to wait, my dear friend.
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    You need some training before you can do it!
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    It's not just by listening to a tape
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    that you can go and practice right away!
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    My teacher is coming from France
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    to give several retreats of mindfulness,
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    and one is right here, in California!
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    So why don't you wait for a few days
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    and we will go to the retreat together.
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    And I am sure that after the retreat,
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    you will apply the teaching and you will
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    be successful in helping your husband.
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    And the catholic lady agreed to wait
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    for a few days until they came to a retreat.
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    And after the retreat, she came home
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    very peacefully, and she was determined
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    to practice. That night she came home
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    and walked mindfully, breathing in and out,
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    calming herself:
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    "My husband, I know you have suffered so much,
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    in the last many years.
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    I could not help you to suffer less.
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    And I have reacted angrily
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    and made you suffer much more.
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    Dear one, it's not my intention
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    to make you suffer like that.
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    Just because I was ignorant
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    I did not understand the suffering in you.
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    So please help me, tell me of your suffering,
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    tell me of your difficulties. Please help me.
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    I need help.
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    And her husband began to cry.
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    Because the lady has not spoken to him
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    like that for a long time.
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    And that night became a very healing night.
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    They listened to each other, they reconciled,
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    and she was able to convince him
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    to go to the next retreat.
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    Both husband and wife went to the 2nd
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    retreat of mindfulness.
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    And on the last day of retreat,
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    during a tea meditation,
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    the husband told the group
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    introducing his wife:
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    "This is a bodhisattva that has saved my life."
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    She has helped me
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    to heal and to transform.
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    And then, a week after that, there was
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    a day of mindfulness organized in
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    the practice center called Spirit Rock.
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    There were many thousand people coming
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    for the mindfulness day.
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    And a couple came with their 3 children
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    and attended the day of mindfulness.
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    And we had a chance to meet that group,
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    and they told us the story.
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    The buddhist lady brought them over,
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    introduced them, and told us the story
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    of the transformation and healing
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    of the family.
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    And when I talked to...
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    I remember when one day I talked
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    to a group of Vietnamese buddhists,
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    I said: "That lady, she's a catholic,
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    she's not a buddhist,
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    but only after 5 days of retreat,
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    she was able to restore communication
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    and to reconcile with her husband.
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    And you are buddhists! And if you cannot do
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    like her, your practice is not good enough!
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    It's a kind of challenge... challenging.
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    The fact is that buddhists are not buddhists
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    if you know how to practice
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    compassionate listening and loving speech
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    you'll be able to restore communication
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    and to reconcile.
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    You have to stop that situation
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    of difficult relationships.
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    And if you know how to do it,
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    you can succeed after 5 days of practice.
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    And I think in the case of the Israelis
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    and Palestinians, that is a difficult
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    case.
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    And that is why, if we have difficulties
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    in our relationships, don't despair.
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    There is a way out.
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    You have to go back to yourself first.
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    You are here.
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    And you are the person here.
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    You have difficulties in your relationship,
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    you have tried so many times without success,
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    and you are about to give up.
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    You are thinking of divorce,
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    you are thinking of separation,
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    you are thinking of suicide, and so on.
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    Because you have tried everything,
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    and you did not succeed.
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    But when you touch the Dharma,
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    you see the way.
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    The way is
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    to begin with yourself.
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    Listen to your own suffering,
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    go home to yourself.
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    Don't try to help the other person,
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    try to help yourself first.
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    Practice mindful breating, mindful walking
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    go home to yourself,
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    and listen to your suffering inside.
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    Because understanding suffering
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    will bring compassion. And compassion
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    is going to heal you, and make you suffer less,
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    and then you can help the other person.
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    So the first thing is for you
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    to go home to yourself.
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    The way out is in.
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    And after you have suffered less,
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    after you have generated
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    and amount of understanding and compassion,
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    then you are ready to go help him or her.
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    And that is the process.
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    And you don't need to be a buddhist
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    in order to do that.
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    Everyone can do that,
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    and restore communication
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    and reconcile.
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    I think that's good enough for today.
Title:
Dharma Talk from the 30th of March 2014
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Video Language:
English
Duration:
01:34:39

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