I've lived as a man and a woman. Here's what I learned | Paula Stone Williams | TEDxMileHigh
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0:11 - 0:16I was the CEO of a large
religious nonprofit, -
0:16 - 0:19the host of a national television show.
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0:19 - 0:22I preached in mega churches.
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0:22 - 0:28I was a successful, well-educated,
white American male. -
0:30 - 0:32The poet and mystic Thomas Merton said,
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0:32 - 0:36"It's a difficult thing to climb
to the top of the ladder of success -
0:36 - 0:38only to realize when you get there
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0:38 - 0:42that your ladder has been leaning
against the wrong wall." -
0:42 - 0:44(Laughter)
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0:44 - 0:48I knew from the time was three
or four years of age I was transgender. -
0:48 - 0:51In my naivety, I thought I got to choose.
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0:51 - 0:54I thought a gender fairy
would arrive and say, -
0:54 - 0:56"Okay, the time has come!"
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0:56 - 1:00But alas, no gender fairy arrived,
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1:00 - 1:01so I just lived my life.
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1:01 - 1:04I didn't hate being a boy.
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1:04 - 1:06I just knew I wasn't one.
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1:06 - 1:10I went to college, got married,
had kids, built a career, -
1:10 - 1:16but the call toward authenticity
has all the subtlety of a smoke alarm. -
1:16 - 1:17(Laughter)
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1:17 - 1:20And eventually decisions have to be made.
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1:20 - 1:25So I came out as transgender
and I lost all of my jobs. -
1:25 - 1:27I had never had a bad review,
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1:27 - 1:31and I lost every single job.
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1:31 - 1:36In 21 states, you can't be fired
for being transgender, -
1:36 - 1:37but in all 50,
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1:37 - 1:43you can be fired if you're transgender
and you work for a religious corporation. -
1:43 - 1:45Good to know!
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1:45 - 1:47(Laughter)
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1:49 - 1:52It's not easy being a transgender woman.
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1:52 - 1:57People sometimes ask,
"Do you feel 100% like a woman?" -
1:57 - 2:00And I say, "Well, if you've talked
to one transgender person, -
2:00 - 2:03you've talked to exactly one
transgender person. -
2:03 - 2:06I can't speak for anybody else."
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2:06 - 2:10I feel 100% like a transgender woman.
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2:10 - 2:14There are things a cisgender woman
knows I will never know. -
2:14 - 2:19That said, I am learning a lot
about what it means to be a female, -
2:19 - 2:23and I am learning a lot
about my former gender. -
2:24 - 2:26(Laughter)
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2:26 - 2:29I have the unique experience
of having lived life on both sides - -
2:29 - 2:30(Laughter)
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2:30 - 2:35and I'm here to tell you:
the differences are massive. -
2:35 - 2:37(Laughter)
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2:38 - 2:41(Applause)
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2:43 - 2:45So, I'll start with the small stuff -
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2:45 - 2:48like the pockets on women's jeans.
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2:48 - 2:50(Laughter)
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2:50 - 2:51What!
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2:51 - 2:53(Cheers) (Applause)
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2:56 - 2:57(Laughter)
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2:57 - 2:59I can't put a phone in there.
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2:59 - 3:00(Laughter)
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3:00 - 3:02Paper clip, maybe.
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3:02 - 3:04(Laughter)
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3:05 - 3:08Or the sizing of women's clothing.
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3:08 - 3:11Do the numbers mean anything?
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3:11 - 3:12(Laughter)
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3:12 - 3:15What is a double zero?
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3:15 - 3:16(Laughter)
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3:16 - 3:18And ladies, I doubt
you've thought about this, -
3:18 - 3:22but do you know there is never
a time in the life of a male -
3:22 - 3:25that he has to worry about whether or not
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3:25 - 3:29an article of his clothing is accidentally
going to drop into the toilet? -
3:30 - 3:32Not a long sweater, not a belt, nothing.
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3:32 - 3:35Never even a passing thought.
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3:35 - 3:36(Laughter)
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3:41 - 3:45Now, I get my hair cut
about half as often as I used to, -
3:46 - 3:48but it costs tens times as much.
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3:48 - 3:50(Laughter)
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3:50 - 3:52So, I can go on vacation
or I can get my hair cut. -
3:52 - 3:54I cannot do both.
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3:54 - 3:56(Laughter)
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3:56 - 4:00I keep bumping into gender
differences everywhere I go! -
4:00 - 4:02Sometimes literally.
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4:02 - 4:05I'm walking down the hallway
and I just bump into it. -
4:05 - 4:08There's nothing in the way,
and I just bump into it. -
4:08 - 4:09I think, "What's that about?"
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4:09 - 4:11And I know it's going to leave a bruise
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4:11 - 4:17because now that my skin is thinner
I have bruises absolutely everywhere. -
4:18 - 4:23How I experience my sexuality
is profoundly different. -
4:24 - 4:28It's less visual and more holistic;
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4:28 - 4:34less of a body experience
and more of a being experience. -
4:34 - 4:38I cannot count the number of times
I've said to Cathy, my former wife, -
4:38 - 4:40"I am so, so sorry!"
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4:40 - 4:42(Laughter)
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4:42 - 4:46I just didn't know what I didn't know.
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4:47 - 4:51There is no way a well-educated
white male can understand -
4:51 - 4:54how much the culture
is tilted in his favor. -
4:54 - 4:59There's no way he can understand it
because it's all he's ever known, -
4:59 - 5:01and all he ever will know.
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5:02 - 5:03And conversely,
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5:03 - 5:07there's no way that a woman
can understand the full import of that -
5:07 - 5:10because being a female
is all she's ever known. -
5:10 - 5:15She might have an inkling that she's
working twice as hard for half as much, -
5:15 - 5:17but she has no idea
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5:17 - 5:22how much harder it is for her than it is
for the guy in the Brooks Brothers jacket -
5:22 - 5:24in the office across the hall.
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5:24 - 5:27I know! I was that guy!
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5:28 - 5:31And I thought I was one of the good guys,
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5:31 - 5:33sensitive to women,
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5:33 - 5:35egalitarian.
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5:35 - 5:38Then came the first time
I ever flew as a female. -
5:38 - 5:42Now, I've flown over 2.3 million miles
with American Airlines. -
5:42 - 5:44I know my way around an airplane.
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5:44 - 5:46And American was great
through my transition, -
5:46 - 5:49but that does not mean
their passengers were. -
5:50 - 5:54The first time I flew as Paula,
I was going from Denver to Charlotte, -
5:54 - 5:57and I got on the plane
and there was stuff in my seat. -
5:57 - 6:02So, I picked it up to put my stuff down,
and a guy said, "That's my stuff." -
6:02 - 6:05I said, "Okay, but it's in my seat.
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6:05 - 6:08So, I'll just hold it for you
until you find your seat, -
6:08 - 6:09and then I'll give it to you."
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6:09 - 6:12He said, "Lady, that is my seat!"
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6:12 - 6:15I said, "Actually, it's not.
It's my seat." -
6:15 - 6:16(Laughter)
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6:16 - 6:18"1D, 1D.
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6:18 - 6:22But I'll be glad to hold your stuff
until you find your seat." -
6:22 - 6:24He said, "What do I have
to tell you? That is my seat!" -
6:24 - 6:26I said, "Yeah, it's not."
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6:26 - 6:28(Laughter)
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6:28 - 6:30At which point the guy behind me said,
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6:30 - 6:33"Lady, would you take
your effing argument elsewhere -
6:33 - 6:35so I can get in the airplane?"
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6:36 - 6:39I was absolutely stunned!
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6:39 - 6:43I had never been treated
like that as a male. -
6:43 - 6:45I would have said,
"I believe that's my seat," -
6:45 - 6:48and the guy immediately
would have looked at his boarding pass -
6:48 - 6:50and said, "Oh, I'm sorry."
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6:50 - 6:54I know that because
it happened all the time! -
6:54 - 6:57The flight attendant
took our boarding passes. -
6:57 - 7:01She said to the guy,
"Sir, you're in 1C. She's in 1D." -
7:01 - 7:04I put his stuff down in 1C,
he said not one single word, -
7:04 - 7:07and of course you know
who was next to me in 1F. -
7:07 - 7:08(Laughter).
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7:08 - 7:11Mister "would you take
your effing argument elsewhere." -
7:11 - 7:12(Laughter)
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7:12 - 7:15So, my friend Karen,
who works for American, -
7:15 - 7:18came on the plane
to give the pilot his paperwork. -
7:18 - 7:20She left and waved goodbye.
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7:20 - 7:22When I got to Charlotte, she called me.
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7:22 - 7:25She said, "Paula, what happened?
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7:25 - 7:28You were as white as a sheet!"
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7:28 - 7:31I told her and she said, "Yeah.
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7:31 - 7:34Welcome to the world of women!"
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7:34 - 7:35(Laughter)
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7:35 - 7:41Now, the truth is I will not live
long enough to lose my male privilege. -
7:42 - 7:45I brought it with me when I transitioned.
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7:45 - 7:46(Laughter)
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7:46 - 7:49A lot of decades of being a man.
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7:51 - 7:53But that doesn't mean
I don't see my power diminishing. -
7:53 - 7:56Let me tell you
another thing I've observed. -
7:56 - 8:01Apparently, since I became a female,
I have become stupid. -
8:01 - 8:03(Laughter)
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8:04 - 8:10Yeah, I guess it's the loss of
testosterone and the arrival of estrogen -
8:10 - 8:12that has caused me to lose the brain cells
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8:12 - 8:16necessary to be a fully
functioning adult human. -
8:16 - 8:17(Laughter)
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8:17 - 8:21Either that or I'm as smart as I ever was,
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8:21 - 8:26it's just now I'm constantly
being subjected to mansplaining. -
8:26 - 8:27(Laughter)
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8:28 - 8:31(Applause)
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8:32 - 8:37So, I was in my local Denver bike shop
and a young summer employee said, -
8:37 - 8:38"Can I help?"
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8:38 - 8:40And I said, "Yeah.
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8:40 - 8:43Can the frame of an older
Gary Fisher mountain bike -
8:43 - 8:47start to flex and bend enough
that it causes the rear break to rub?" -
8:47 - 8:51He said, "Well, disk breaks
need regular adjustments." -
8:51 - 8:54I said, "I know that,
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8:54 - 8:58and in fact I do
my reg break adjustments." -
8:58 - 9:00He said, "Oh, well,
then your rotor's bent." -
9:00 - 9:04I said, "Yeah, my rotor is not bent.
I know a bent rotor." -
9:04 - 9:08With condescension, he said,
"Well, what do you want me to do?" -
9:08 - 9:11I said, "You could answer my question."
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9:11 - 9:12(Laughter)
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9:12 - 9:15At which point Kyle, the manager
of the shop, stepped in. -
9:15 - 9:16He's such a sweetheart.
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9:16 - 9:19He said, "I think you're probably right.
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9:19 - 9:21Let me ask you a question:
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9:21 - 9:24Do you only get a chirp coming
from that rear break -
9:24 - 9:25when you're pulling hard uphill?"
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9:25 - 9:27I said, "Yes, exactly!"
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9:27 - 9:29He said, "Yeah, that's frame fatigue."
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9:30 - 9:34I wanted to fall at the feet of Kyle
and call him blessed! -
9:34 - 9:35(Laughter)
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9:35 - 9:38Someone was taking me seriously!
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9:38 - 9:41This happens all the time now.
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9:41 - 9:43I have to go three
or four rounds with someone -
9:43 - 9:45before I get a direct answer!
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9:46 - 9:48And there's a deeper issue:
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9:48 - 9:52the more you're treated as if
you don't know what you're talking about, -
9:52 - 9:53the more you begin to question
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9:53 - 9:58whether or not you do in fact
know what you're talking about, right? -
9:58 - 10:00(Applause)
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10:03 - 10:08I understand the woman's tendency
to doubt herself. -
10:08 - 10:11Do you ever notice if a woman
is in a meeting with a group of men, -
10:11 - 10:12and she knows she's right,
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10:12 - 10:14she apologizes for it?
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10:14 - 10:18She says, "I'm sorry,
but I don't think those numbers add up." -
10:18 - 10:21You know, you don't have
to apologize for being right. -
10:21 - 10:24(Cheers) (Applause)
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10:29 - 10:32Since I'm new to this gender,
I asked my good friend Jen. -
10:32 - 10:35I said, "What are women
looking for in men?" -
10:35 - 10:40She said, "Women are looking for men
who will honor our uniqueness, -
10:40 - 10:43who will realize our gifting
is not lesser, it's not weaker, -
10:43 - 10:44it's just different,
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10:44 - 10:48it is in fact more comprehensive
and it's essential." -
10:49 - 10:53Now, of course there are men
who do honor women, lots of them, -
10:53 - 10:55like my good friend
and fellow pastor, Mark, -
10:55 - 10:59who always draws out the best in me
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10:59 - 11:02and then seems to take pleasure
in watching me lead. -
11:02 - 11:04We need more men like Mark,
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11:04 - 11:08who are willing to honor
and empower women. -
11:09 - 11:12I know I'm going to keep bumping into
additional differences on this journey, -
11:12 - 11:15but let me leave you with this.
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11:15 - 11:19To the women, I offer my heartfelt thanks.
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11:19 - 11:23I often feel like an interloper,
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11:23 - 11:27a late arrival to the serious
work of womanhood, -
11:28 - 11:32but you show me grace and great mercy.
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11:32 - 11:37I want you to know you are
far more capable than you realize, -
11:37 - 11:40you are more powerful than you know
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11:40 - 11:44and you reflect the best parts
of what it means to be fully human. -
11:45 - 11:46And to you guys
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11:46 - 11:50who are probably feeling more than
a little bit uncomfortable right now - -
11:50 - 11:52(Laughter)
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11:52 - 11:55I do understand.
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11:55 - 11:58I never thought I had privilege,
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11:58 - 12:00but I did.
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12:03 - 12:05And so do you.
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12:05 - 12:07What can you do?
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12:07 - 12:09You can believe us
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12:09 - 12:13when we tell you that we might,
we might have equality, -
12:13 - 12:15but we do not have equity.
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12:16 - 12:19It is not a level playing field,
it never has been. -
12:20 - 12:23You can be a part of the solution
by elevating us to equal footing. -
12:23 - 12:26You uniquely have that power.
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12:28 - 12:30And to all of us,
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12:30 - 12:32do you know who I think about a lot?
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12:33 - 12:36I think about my brown-skinned daughter,
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12:36 - 12:39and my brown-skinned daughter-in-law.
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12:39 - 12:41What do they know that I'm clueless about?
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12:41 - 12:46What do any of us really know about
the shoes in which we have never walked? -
12:47 - 12:51It's hard being a woman,
it's hard being a transgender woman. -
12:51 - 12:54As a man, I just didn't know
what I didn't know. -
12:55 - 12:56Would I do it all again?
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12:56 - 12:58Of course I would,
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12:58 - 13:03because the call toward authenticity
is sacred, it's holy, -
13:03 - 13:06it's for the greater good.
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13:07 - 13:11For 45 years, my father
was a fundamentalist pastor. -
13:12 - 13:15My mother is even more conservative -
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13:15 - 13:17(Laughter)
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13:18 - 13:21When I came out as transgender,
they rejected me. -
13:21 - 13:24I thought I would never
speak to them again. -
13:24 - 13:28Last January, I took a chance
and called my dad on his birthday, -
13:28 - 13:29and he took my call.
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13:29 - 13:32We talked for about a half hour,
and about a month later, -
13:32 - 13:36I asked if I could come for a visit,
and they said yes. -
13:36 - 13:40And last spring, I had a delightfully
redemptive three-hour visit with them. -
13:40 - 13:42I've met with them twice since.
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13:43 - 13:46But that day, toward the end
of the conversation, that first day, -
13:46 - 13:49my father said a number
of precious things. -
13:50 - 13:52As I stood to go -
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13:54 - 13:55he said -
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13:55 - 13:58(Applause)
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14:01 - 14:03As I stood to go, he said,
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14:03 - 14:05"Paula" -
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14:07 - 14:09He called me Paula -
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14:10 - 14:14(Applause)
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14:20 - 14:23He said, "Paula, I don't understand this,
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14:23 - 14:26but I am willing to try."
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14:27 - 14:31My father is 93 years old,
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14:32 - 14:34and he's willing to try.
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14:35 - 14:37What more could I ask?
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14:37 - 14:40I hugged him so tightly.
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14:41 - 14:48One man willing to give up his power
because he knew what he knew, -
14:48 - 14:51that he loved his child,
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14:51 - 14:55and he was willing to do
whatever it takes -
14:55 - 14:59to honor the journey of another.
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14:59 - 15:01Thank you.
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15:01 - 15:03(Applause) (Cheers)
- Title:
- I've lived as a man and a woman. Here's what I learned | Paula Stone Williams | TEDxMileHigh
- Description:
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If you’re a man, at one point or another you’ve probably thought to yourself, “I will never understand women!” And if you’re a woman, “What's wrong with men?!” But your gender is all you've ever known, so how could you understand? As a transgender woman, Paula Stone Williams has lived on both sides, “And the differences are massive!” - she says. In this funny and insightful talk, Paula shares her wisdom for all.
Reverend Dr. Paula Stone Williams is the president of RLT Pathways, Inc., a nonprofit providing counseling and coaching services. She works with the Center for Progressive Renewal, serves on the board of the Gay Christian Network, and is an active member at Highlands Church in Denver. She is an avid runner and mountain biker with three children and five granddaughters.
This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at https://www.ted.com/tedx
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
closed TED
- Project:
- TEDxTalks
- Duration:
- 15:25