WEBVTT 00:00:11.221 --> 00:00:16.278 I was the CEO of a large religious nonprofit, 00:00:16.278 --> 00:00:19.173 the host of a national television show. 00:00:19.173 --> 00:00:21.773 I preached in mega churches. 00:00:21.773 --> 00:00:28.474 I was a successful, well-educated, white American male. 00:00:29.943 --> 00:00:32.373 The poet and mystic Thomas Merton said, 00:00:32.373 --> 00:00:35.879 "It's a difficult thing to climb to the top of the ladder of success 00:00:35.879 --> 00:00:37.963 only to realize when you get there 00:00:37.963 --> 00:00:41.722 that your ladder has been leaning against the wrong wall." 00:00:41.722 --> 00:00:43.663 (Laughter) 00:00:44.422 --> 00:00:48.262 I knew from the time was three or four years of age I was transgender. 00:00:48.262 --> 00:00:51.351 In my naivety, I thought I got to choose. 00:00:51.351 --> 00:00:53.553 I thought a gender fairy would arrive and say, 00:00:53.553 --> 00:00:56.121 "Okay, the time has come!" 00:00:56.121 --> 00:00:59.582 But alas, no gender fairy arrived, 00:00:59.582 --> 00:01:01.451 so I just lived my life. 00:01:01.451 --> 00:01:03.829 I didn't hate being a boy. 00:01:03.829 --> 00:01:05.933 I just knew I wasn't one. 00:01:05.933 --> 00:01:10.011 I went to college, got married, had kids, built a career, 00:01:10.011 --> 00:01:15.742 but the call toward authenticity has all the subtlety of a smoke alarm. 00:01:15.742 --> 00:01:16.691 (Laughter) 00:01:16.691 --> 00:01:19.682 And eventually decisions have to be made. 00:01:19.683 --> 00:01:24.600 So I came out as transgender and I lost all of my jobs. 00:01:25.002 --> 00:01:27.279 I had never had a bad review, 00:01:27.279 --> 00:01:30.854 and I lost every single job. 00:01:31.229 --> 00:01:35.992 In 21 states, you can't be fired for being transgender, 00:01:35.992 --> 00:01:37.420 but in all 50, 00:01:37.420 --> 00:01:42.706 you can be fired if you're transgender and you work for a religious corporation. 00:01:43.046 --> 00:01:44.601 Good to know! 00:01:44.601 --> 00:01:46.803 (Laughter) 00:01:48.756 --> 00:01:52.272 It's not easy being a transgender woman. 00:01:52.272 --> 00:01:56.869 People sometimes ask, "Do you feel 100% like a woman?" 00:01:56.869 --> 00:01:59.744 And I say, "Well, if you've talked to one transgender person, 00:01:59.744 --> 00:02:03.271 you've talked to exactly one transgender person. 00:02:03.271 --> 00:02:05.719 I can't speak for anybody else." 00:02:06.004 --> 00:02:09.753 I feel 100% like a transgender woman. 00:02:10.150 --> 00:02:13.622 There are things a cisgender woman knows I will never know. 00:02:13.622 --> 00:02:18.731 That said, I am learning a lot about what it means to be a female, 00:02:18.731 --> 00:02:23.209 and I am learning a lot about my former gender. 00:02:23.942 --> 00:02:25.762 (Laughter) 00:02:25.762 --> 00:02:29.335 I have the unique experience of having lived life on both sides - 00:02:29.335 --> 00:02:30.332 (Laughter) 00:02:30.332 --> 00:02:35.391 and I'm here to tell you: the differences are massive. 00:02:35.391 --> 00:02:37.446 (Laughter) 00:02:38.073 --> 00:02:40.707 (Applause) 00:02:42.641 --> 00:02:45.129 So, I'll start with the small stuff - 00:02:45.129 --> 00:02:47.642 like the pockets on women's jeans. 00:02:47.642 --> 00:02:49.522 (Laughter) 00:02:49.522 --> 00:02:50.751 What! 00:02:50.751 --> 00:02:53.238 (Cheers) (Applause) 00:02:55.514 --> 00:02:56.723 (Laughter) 00:02:56.723 --> 00:02:58.931 I can't put a phone in there. 00:02:58.931 --> 00:03:00.033 (Laughter) 00:03:00.033 --> 00:03:01.812 Paper clip, maybe. 00:03:01.812 --> 00:03:03.626 (Laughter) 00:03:04.642 --> 00:03:07.814 Or the sizing of women's clothing. 00:03:08.414 --> 00:03:10.682 Do the numbers mean anything? 00:03:10.682 --> 00:03:12.382 (Laughter) 00:03:12.382 --> 00:03:14.522 What is a double zero? 00:03:14.522 --> 00:03:16.111 (Laughter) 00:03:16.111 --> 00:03:18.271 And ladies, I doubt you've thought about this, 00:03:18.271 --> 00:03:22.338 but do you know there is never a time in the life of a male 00:03:22.338 --> 00:03:24.531 that he has to worry about whether or not 00:03:24.531 --> 00:03:29.094 an article of his clothing is accidentally going to drop into the toilet? 00:03:29.534 --> 00:03:32.212 Not a long sweater, not a belt, nothing. 00:03:32.212 --> 00:03:34.658 Never even a passing thought. 00:03:34.658 --> 00:03:36.431 (Laughter) 00:03:41.319 --> 00:03:45.143 Now, I get my hair cut about half as often as I used to, 00:03:45.763 --> 00:03:47.925 but it costs tens times as much. 00:03:47.925 --> 00:03:49.573 (Laughter) 00:03:50.042 --> 00:03:52.476 So, I can go on vacation or I can get my hair cut. 00:03:52.476 --> 00:03:53.952 I cannot do both. 00:03:53.952 --> 00:03:55.541 (Laughter) 00:03:55.892 --> 00:04:00.163 I keep bumping into gender differences everywhere I go! 00:04:00.163 --> 00:04:02.124 Sometimes literally. 00:04:02.124 --> 00:04:05.123 I'm walking down the hallway and I just bump into it. 00:04:05.123 --> 00:04:08.073 There's nothing in the way, and I just bump into it. 00:04:08.073 --> 00:04:09.473 I think, "What's that about?" 00:04:09.473 --> 00:04:11.471 And I know it's going to leave a bruise 00:04:11.471 --> 00:04:17.036 because now that my skin is thinner I have bruises absolutely everywhere. 00:04:18.355 --> 00:04:23.175 How I experience my sexuality is profoundly different. 00:04:23.635 --> 00:04:27.784 It's less visual and more holistic; 00:04:28.115 --> 00:04:33.545 less of a body experience and more of a being experience. 00:04:33.944 --> 00:04:38.322 I cannot count the number of times I've said to Cathy, my former wife, 00:04:38.322 --> 00:04:40.391 "I am so, so sorry!" 00:04:40.391 --> 00:04:41.754 (Laughter) 00:04:41.754 --> 00:04:45.625 I just didn't know what I didn't know. 00:04:46.613 --> 00:04:50.744 There is no way a well-educated white male can understand 00:04:50.744 --> 00:04:53.810 how much the culture is tilted in his favor. 00:04:54.255 --> 00:04:58.538 There's no way he can understand it because it's all he's ever known, 00:04:58.903 --> 00:05:01.034 and all he ever will know. 00:05:01.524 --> 00:05:03.132 And conversely, 00:05:03.132 --> 00:05:07.035 there's no way that a woman can understand the full import of that 00:05:07.035 --> 00:05:10.113 because being a female is all she's ever known. 00:05:10.451 --> 00:05:14.511 She might have an inkling that she's working twice as hard for half as much, 00:05:14.511 --> 00:05:17.352 but she has no idea 00:05:17.352 --> 00:05:21.713 how much harder it is for her than it is for the guy in the Brooks Brothers jacket 00:05:21.713 --> 00:05:23.767 in the office across the hall. 00:05:24.154 --> 00:05:27.279 I know! I was that guy! 00:05:27.771 --> 00:05:30.514 And I thought I was one of the good guys, 00:05:30.514 --> 00:05:32.805 sensitive to women, 00:05:32.805 --> 00:05:34.681 egalitarian. 00:05:35.025 --> 00:05:37.901 Then came the first time I ever flew as a female. 00:05:38.253 --> 00:05:42.211 Now, I've flown over 2.3 million miles with American Airlines. 00:05:42.211 --> 00:05:44.252 I know my way around an airplane. 00:05:44.252 --> 00:05:46.383 And American was great through my transition, 00:05:46.383 --> 00:05:49.292 but that does not mean their passengers were. 00:05:49.663 --> 00:05:54.231 The first time I flew as Paula, I was going from Denver to Charlotte, 00:05:54.231 --> 00:05:56.760 and I got on the plane and there was stuff in my seat. 00:05:56.760 --> 00:06:01.663 So, I picked it up to put my stuff down, and a guy said, "That's my stuff." 00:06:01.663 --> 00:06:04.853 I said, "Okay, but it's in my seat. 00:06:04.853 --> 00:06:07.682 So, I'll just hold it for you until you find your seat, 00:06:07.682 --> 00:06:09.114 and then I'll give it to you." 00:06:09.114 --> 00:06:12.024 He said, "Lady, that is my seat!" 00:06:12.024 --> 00:06:14.933 I said, "Actually, it's not. It's my seat." 00:06:14.933 --> 00:06:15.964 (Laughter) 00:06:15.964 --> 00:06:17.824 "1D, 1D. 00:06:17.824 --> 00:06:21.583 But I'll be glad to hold your stuff until you find your seat." 00:06:21.583 --> 00:06:24.243 He said, "What do I have to tell you? That is my seat!" 00:06:24.243 --> 00:06:26.083 I said, "Yeah, it's not." 00:06:26.083 --> 00:06:28.175 (Laughter) 00:06:28.175 --> 00:06:30.072 At which point the guy behind me said, 00:06:30.072 --> 00:06:33.014 "Lady, would you take your effing argument elsewhere 00:06:33.014 --> 00:06:35.355 so I can get in the airplane?" 00:06:36.033 --> 00:06:39.461 I was absolutely stunned! 00:06:39.461 --> 00:06:43.127 I had never been treated like that as a male. 00:06:43.127 --> 00:06:45.304 I would have said, "I believe that's my seat," 00:06:45.304 --> 00:06:48.255 and the guy immediately would have looked at his boarding pass 00:06:48.255 --> 00:06:49.643 and said, "Oh, I'm sorry." 00:06:49.643 --> 00:06:53.615 I know that because it happened all the time! 00:06:54.382 --> 00:06:57.054 The flight attendant took our boarding passes. 00:06:57.054 --> 00:07:00.864 She said to the guy, "Sir, you're in 1C. She's in 1D." 00:07:00.864 --> 00:07:04.375 I put his stuff down in 1C, he said not one single word, 00:07:04.375 --> 00:07:07.163 and of course you know who was next to me in 1F. 00:07:07.163 --> 00:07:08.131 (Laughter). 00:07:08.131 --> 00:07:11.164 Mister "would you take your effing argument elsewhere." 00:07:11.164 --> 00:07:12.235 (Laughter) 00:07:12.235 --> 00:07:14.600 So, my friend Karen, who works for American, 00:07:14.600 --> 00:07:17.536 came on the plane to give the pilot his paperwork. 00:07:17.536 --> 00:07:19.592 She left and waved goodbye. 00:07:19.592 --> 00:07:21.814 When I got to Charlotte, she called me. 00:07:21.814 --> 00:07:25.182 She said, "Paula, what happened? 00:07:25.182 --> 00:07:27.898 You were as white as a sheet!" 00:07:28.344 --> 00:07:30.694 I told her and she said, "Yeah. 00:07:31.464 --> 00:07:33.724 Welcome to the world of women!" 00:07:33.724 --> 00:07:35.065 (Laughter) 00:07:35.474 --> 00:07:41.267 Now, the truth is I will not live long enough to lose my male privilege. 00:07:41.695 --> 00:07:44.826 I brought it with me when I transitioned. 00:07:44.826 --> 00:07:46.316 (Laughter) 00:07:46.316 --> 00:07:49.142 A lot of decades of being a man. 00:07:50.662 --> 00:07:53.403 But that doesn't mean I don't see my power diminishing. 00:07:53.403 --> 00:07:55.733 Let me tell you another thing I've observed. 00:07:55.733 --> 00:08:00.583 Apparently, since I became a female, I have become stupid. 00:08:00.583 --> 00:08:02.594 (Laughter) 00:08:04.152 --> 00:08:09.846 Yeah, I guess it's the loss of testosterone and the arrival of estrogen 00:08:09.846 --> 00:08:12.336 that has caused me to lose the brain cells 00:08:12.336 --> 00:08:15.753 necessary to be a fully functioning adult human. 00:08:15.753 --> 00:08:17.083 (Laughter) 00:08:17.475 --> 00:08:20.743 Either that or I'm as smart as I ever was, 00:08:20.743 --> 00:08:25.604 it's just now I'm constantly being subjected to mansplaining. 00:08:25.604 --> 00:08:27.259 (Laughter) 00:08:27.984 --> 00:08:30.557 (Applause) 00:08:32.105 --> 00:08:37.014 So, I was in my local Denver bike shop and a young summer employee said, 00:08:37.014 --> 00:08:38.235 "Can I help?" 00:08:38.235 --> 00:08:40.065 And I said, "Yeah. 00:08:40.065 --> 00:08:43.435 Can the frame of an older Gary Fisher mountain bike 00:08:43.435 --> 00:08:47.482 start to flex and bend enough that it causes the rear break to rub?" 00:08:47.482 --> 00:08:50.585 He said, "Well, disk breaks need regular adjustments." 00:08:51.015 --> 00:08:53.763 I said, "I know that, 00:08:53.763 --> 00:08:57.612 and in fact I do my reg break adjustments." 00:08:57.612 --> 00:09:00.363 He said, "Oh, well, then your rotor's bent." 00:09:00.363 --> 00:09:03.646 I said, "Yeah, my rotor is not bent. I know a bent rotor." 00:09:03.646 --> 00:09:07.535 With condescension, he said, "Well, what do you want me to do?" 00:09:08.004 --> 00:09:11.045 I said, "You could answer my question." 00:09:11.045 --> 00:09:12.343 (Laughter) 00:09:12.343 --> 00:09:15.135 At which point Kyle, the manager of the shop, stepped in. 00:09:15.135 --> 00:09:16.496 He's such a sweetheart. 00:09:16.496 --> 00:09:19.011 He said, "I think you're probably right. 00:09:19.011 --> 00:09:20.705 Let me ask you a question: 00:09:20.705 --> 00:09:23.515 Do you only get a chirp coming from that rear break 00:09:23.515 --> 00:09:25.174 when you're pulling hard uphill?" 00:09:25.174 --> 00:09:26.934 I said, "Yes, exactly!" 00:09:26.934 --> 00:09:29.300 He said, "Yeah, that's frame fatigue." 00:09:29.857 --> 00:09:34.074 I wanted to fall at the feet of Kyle and call him blessed! 00:09:34.074 --> 00:09:35.314 (Laughter) 00:09:35.314 --> 00:09:38.121 Someone was taking me seriously! 00:09:38.446 --> 00:09:40.507 This happens all the time now. 00:09:40.507 --> 00:09:43.304 I have to go three or four rounds with someone 00:09:43.304 --> 00:09:45.458 before I get a direct answer! 00:09:45.895 --> 00:09:47.727 And there's a deeper issue: 00:09:48.225 --> 00:09:51.904 the more you're treated as if you don't know what you're talking about, 00:09:51.904 --> 00:09:53.363 the more you begin to question 00:09:53.363 --> 00:09:58.436 whether or not you do in fact know what you're talking about, right? 00:09:58.436 --> 00:10:00.445 (Applause) 00:10:03.043 --> 00:10:07.500 I understand the woman's tendency to doubt herself. 00:10:07.500 --> 00:10:10.649 Do you ever notice if a woman is in a meeting with a group of men, 00:10:10.649 --> 00:10:12.193 and she knows she's right, 00:10:12.193 --> 00:10:14.166 she apologizes for it? 00:10:14.454 --> 00:10:17.676 She says, "I'm sorry, but I don't think those numbers add up." 00:10:17.676 --> 00:10:21.274 You know, you don't have to apologize for being right. 00:10:21.274 --> 00:10:24.159 (Cheers) (Applause) 00:10:28.593 --> 00:10:32.025 Since I'm new to this gender, I asked my good friend Jen. 00:10:32.025 --> 00:10:35.344 I said, "What are women looking for in men?" 00:10:35.344 --> 00:10:40.076 She said, "Women are looking for men who will honor our uniqueness, 00:10:40.076 --> 00:10:43.136 who will realize our gifting is not lesser, it's not weaker, 00:10:43.136 --> 00:10:44.184 it's just different, 00:10:44.184 --> 00:10:48.397 it is in fact more comprehensive and it's essential." 00:10:49.185 --> 00:10:52.795 Now, of course there are men who do honor women, lots of them, 00:10:52.795 --> 00:10:55.453 like my good friend and fellow pastor, Mark, 00:10:55.453 --> 00:10:58.613 who always draws out the best in me 00:10:58.613 --> 00:11:02.016 and then seems to take pleasure in watching me lead. 00:11:02.016 --> 00:11:03.856 We need more men like Mark, 00:11:03.856 --> 00:11:07.954 who are willing to honor and empower women. 00:11:08.635 --> 00:11:12.315 I know I'm going to keep bumping into additional differences on this journey, 00:11:12.315 --> 00:11:15.081 but let me leave you with this. 00:11:15.081 --> 00:11:18.927 To the women, I offer my heartfelt thanks. 00:11:19.313 --> 00:11:22.647 I often feel like an interloper, 00:11:23.216 --> 00:11:27.133 a late arrival to the serious work of womanhood, 00:11:27.986 --> 00:11:31.543 but you show me grace and great mercy. 00:11:32.128 --> 00:11:36.657 I want you to know you are far more capable than you realize, 00:11:36.657 --> 00:11:39.560 you are more powerful than you know 00:11:39.560 --> 00:11:44.151 and you reflect the best parts of what it means to be fully human. 00:11:45.055 --> 00:11:46.166 And to you guys 00:11:46.166 --> 00:11:49.606 who are probably feeling more than a little bit uncomfortable right now - 00:11:49.606 --> 00:11:51.572 (Laughter) 00:11:52.375 --> 00:11:54.772 I do understand. 00:11:55.324 --> 00:11:57.593 I never thought I had privilege, 00:11:58.425 --> 00:11:59.956 but I did. 00:12:02.833 --> 00:12:04.566 And so do you. 00:12:05.216 --> 00:12:06.743 What can you do? 00:12:07.115 --> 00:12:08.957 You can believe us 00:12:09.208 --> 00:12:12.565 when we tell you that we might, we might have equality, 00:12:12.565 --> 00:12:15.117 but we do not have equity. 00:12:15.515 --> 00:12:19.252 It is not a level playing field, it never has been. 00:12:19.709 --> 00:12:23.437 You can be a part of the solution by elevating us to equal footing. 00:12:23.437 --> 00:12:26.026 You uniquely have that power. 00:12:27.586 --> 00:12:29.518 And to all of us, 00:12:29.518 --> 00:12:31.677 do you know who I think about a lot? 00:12:32.893 --> 00:12:35.915 I think about my brown-skinned daughter, 00:12:36.480 --> 00:12:38.847 and my brown-skinned daughter-in-law. 00:12:38.847 --> 00:12:41.305 What do they know that I'm clueless about? 00:12:41.305 --> 00:12:46.058 What do any of us really know about the shoes in which we have never walked? 00:12:46.656 --> 00:12:50.815 It's hard being a woman, it's hard being a transgender woman. 00:12:50.815 --> 00:12:54.025 As a man, I just didn't know what I didn't know. 00:12:54.516 --> 00:12:56.315 Would I do it all again? 00:12:56.315 --> 00:12:58.314 Of course I would, 00:12:58.314 --> 00:13:03.357 because the call toward authenticity is sacred, it's holy, 00:13:03.357 --> 00:13:05.822 it's for the greater good. 00:13:07.384 --> 00:13:11.429 For 45 years, my father was a fundamentalist pastor. 00:13:12.034 --> 00:13:14.722 My mother is even more conservative - 00:13:14.722 --> 00:13:16.739 (Laughter) 00:13:17.906 --> 00:13:21.294 When I came out as transgender, they rejected me. 00:13:21.294 --> 00:13:23.680 I thought I would never speak to them again. 00:13:24.394 --> 00:13:27.642 Last January, I took a chance and called my dad on his birthday, 00:13:27.642 --> 00:13:29.217 and he took my call. 00:13:29.466 --> 00:13:32.165 We talked for about a half hour, and about a month later, 00:13:32.165 --> 00:13:35.808 I asked if I could come for a visit, and they said yes. 00:13:35.808 --> 00:13:40.316 And last spring, I had a delightfully redemptive three-hour visit with them. 00:13:40.316 --> 00:13:42.465 I've met with them twice since. 00:13:42.836 --> 00:13:46.255 But that day, toward the end of the conversation, that first day, 00:13:46.255 --> 00:13:49.279 my father said a number of precious things. 00:13:50.126 --> 00:13:52.146 As I stood to go - 00:13:54.218 --> 00:13:55.476 he said - 00:13:55.476 --> 00:13:57.798 (Applause) 00:14:01.207 --> 00:14:03.176 As I stood to go, he said, 00:14:03.176 --> 00:14:04.742 "Paula" - 00:14:07.297 --> 00:14:09.307 He called me Paula - 00:14:10.457 --> 00:14:13.657 (Applause) 00:14:19.715 --> 00:14:23.414 He said, "Paula, I don't understand this, 00:14:23.414 --> 00:14:25.878 but I am willing to try." 00:14:26.885 --> 00:14:30.979 My father is 93 years old, 00:14:31.857 --> 00:14:34.272 and he's willing to try. 00:14:35.036 --> 00:14:37.091 What more could I ask? 00:14:37.389 --> 00:14:39.910 I hugged him so tightly. 00:14:40.776 --> 00:14:47.679 One man willing to give up his power because he knew what he knew, 00:14:47.679 --> 00:14:50.756 that he loved his child, 00:14:51.247 --> 00:14:54.987 and he was willing to do whatever it takes 00:14:54.987 --> 00:14:58.667 to honor the journey of another. 00:14:59.271 --> 00:15:00.557 Thank you. 00:15:00.557 --> 00:15:03.242 (Applause) (Cheers)