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♪ theme music ♪
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(Derek) Welcome to Hope Sabbath School,
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an in-depth, interactive study
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of the Word of God.
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Have you ever felt hopeless,
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like you were going through a
dark time and couldn't see light
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at the end of the tunnel?
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Today on Hope Sabbath School,
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we're going to be talking
about intimations of hope,
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glimmers of hope,
even in a difficult time,
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which will change our hearts,
and give us courage.
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I'm glad you joined us
in our study of the Book of Job.
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And welcome to the team.
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What a series this has been!
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And we've been looking for hope all along.
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We found it in a living
connection with God, right?
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And here's Job, who doesn't
even know about Jesus.
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We have the advantage
of the full revelation
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of the character of God in the
Person of Jesus our Savior,
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but there is hope, even
in the challenging times,
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and we're so thankful for that, today.
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And we're glad you've joined us for our
study wherever you are around the world.
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We don't know how many countries are
represented, though the last statistics
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I had on our Android app, 150 countries
were using the Android app; 137, I think,
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using our iOS app, which is for
Apple devices, so lots of you.
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We'd love to hear from you even
if you've written to us before.
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Tell us how the Word of God
is blessing your life
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and you're sharing that with others.
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You can write to us at sshope@hopetv.org,
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or you can put a note
on our Facebook page,
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just go to our Hope Sabbath
School Facebook page
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and leave a comment.
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Here's a note from Zambia.
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Chileshe writes from Zambia
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and says, "Hi, Hope Sabbath School."
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(Team) Hi.
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(Derek) "Thanks for the amazing
Sabbath School discussions.
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They are helping me grow
spiritually every week."
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That's our prayer, isn't it?
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"May God continue blessing
you as you help us."
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Chileshe, and I must confess
I do not know, Chileshe,
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if that's a man's name or a lady's name;
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you'll have to send me another email,
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but Chileshe attends the
University SDA Church in Lusaka.
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So we're glad you wrote to us.
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Here's a note from Samuel.
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Thank you for writing,
Samuel, from Nigeria.
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We have a lot of Hope Sabbath
School members in Nigeria.
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"I'm from the Gudi Sabbath
School Center in Nigeria.
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We're just a family of three, but we enjoy
our Sabbath worship, because on Fridays
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we watch Hope Sabbath School.
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It helps me to teach the class
in a very interesting way."
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And Samuel says, "I'm a
high school teacher,"
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so we are teaching teachers
to teach the Word.
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Isn't that awesome?
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(Team) Yes.
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(Derek) "God bless the Sabbath
School in-depth teaching.
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It's the reason why we
have an interesting class."
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(Derek, Team) Amen.
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Well, we are excited whenever we hear
from Hope Sabbath School members
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who are becoming Hope
Sabbath School teachers.
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And you can download the outline that
we write, that semi-structured outline,
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interactive outline,
website: hopetv.org/hopess,
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and you can click on the outline and
download it and use it in your own class.
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Thanks for writing to us, Samuel.
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Here's a note from Peter in Kenya,
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and I was impressed with what Peter said.
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He said, "I'm writing to you
from Chuka University in Kenya.
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Hope Sabbath School's been quite a
blessing since I started following
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just one month ago.
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We usually assemble on Friday
evenings together with my roommate
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and other hostel mates."
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I guess that's like a dormitory situation.
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"It's helped us to understand
the lesson in an amazing way."
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Sounds like you've got a mini
Hope Sabbath School there, right?
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In Chuka University.
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That's wonderful, Peter.
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Keep inviting other
classmates to join you.
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"We pray for special blessings
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as you present God's message
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to the souls of the world.
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Praise the Lord."
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Well, Peter, praise the Lord for you, too.
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Thanks for writing to us from
Chuka University in Kenya.
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And one last note from Phoenix in
California, thanks for writing.
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Now is Phoenix a man's name or a lady's
name or can it be used for both,
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does anybody know?
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Phoenix.
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We'll need another email.
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"Good morning, beautiful
servants of the Most High.
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Just wanted to say praise the
Lord for Hope Sabbath School.
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It is the high point of my day.
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I learn so much; it's interesting,
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plus it's just a blessing.
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Being filled with the
understanding of God's Word,
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it's like tasting water in the desert."
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(Team) Wow.
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(Derek) "Excellent job, team.
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Plus now with the app on my phone,
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it really rocks."
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That sounds American,
doesn't it, Timoetel?
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But, you know, you can go to the App Store
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or to Google Play; you
can download our app.
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We've got an Android
app and an Apple app.
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Put it on your phone;
it's free to download.
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It says, "Now I can watch Hope Sabbath
School anytime with no excuses.
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Just keep up the good work.
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God encourage your heart to keep
going forward towards the mark
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of the high calling in Christ Jesus."
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Now I've not taken a poll, but there
may have been a time when you said,
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"Well, I'm supposed to come and
film Hope Sabbath School today,
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but I'd rather just relax
and not do something."
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When you hear these stories,
what does it do for you?
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It's encouraging, isn't it?
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To see the miracles that are
happening, and so we want to thank you
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for writing to us wherever you are
around the world at sshope@hopetv.org.
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When you send that, we send it
out to our media team as well,
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so they can be encouraged.
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We want to thank God for what
He is doing in your life.
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By the way, if you go to our website,
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hopetv.org/hopess,
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you can download the song,
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the outline.
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We've got sheet music for the song.
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You can start a Hope Sabbath
School group in your area
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and sing the Scripture song with them.
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In fact, we're going to sing it right now.
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It's 3,000 years old -
at least the words are.
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My wife wrote a simple tune,
but I love this promise,
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"I would have lost heart," it says in
Psalm 27:13,14, "unless I had believed
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that I would see the goodness of
the Lord in the land of the living.
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Wait on the Lord; be of good courage,
and He shall strengthen your heart."
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Let's sing that beautiful
promise together.
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(Derek) Let's pray together.
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Lord God, we thank You that
we can study Your Word today.
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It is a lamp to our feet,
a light to our path.
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As we talk about intimations
of hope, glimmers of hope,
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we pray that we might not only
see hope but experience hope,
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even during the challenges of our lives,
that we would have that living connection
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with You that changes everything.
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So bless in the study of
Your Word today we pray,
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each Hope Sabbath School member
blessed, in the name of Jesus.
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Amen.
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(Team) Amen.
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(Derek) Well, we're in the
Book of Job, chapter 13,
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and I'm always thinking
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that people may join us
for Hope Sabbath School,
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and they haven't watched the
first parts of this series.
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You can watch it all; you can
go to our website at hopetv.org
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and watch all of the programs,
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but let's just catch up
on the story of Job,
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and, Brittany, just a quick summary.
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Here's a man,
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tell us a little bit about
him and what happens to him.
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(Brittany) Sure, Job started out as a
famous and wealthy man of the East,
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and God even called him blameless.
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He had multiple possessions, ten children,
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and, just, was very blessed.
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But then there was a heavenly
council where the Devil accused God
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of blessing him and that Job was only
serving God because of the blessings.
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So God says, "Well, I'll
allow you to test him,"
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and then everything that Job owned
was taken away, even his children.
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All ten of them died in one day.
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And after that experience,
then Job was covered in boils
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from his head to his toes
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and was in pain and anguish and wondering,
"Why is all this happening to me?"
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(Derek) So he's going through
a terrible experience,
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and then three friends show up,
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meaning well, Nathan, right?
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And do they help the situation at all?
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(Nathan) I think at first they
helped by their presence.
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(Derek) Okay.
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(Nathan) Seven days sitting
in silence, mourning with Job,
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empathizing with him.
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But then when they begin to speak,
it's quite clear that their wisdom
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is not heavenly wisdom.
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(Derek) What did they basically say?
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(Nathan) They were basically
saying, "Job, whatever you did
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has brought this upon you.
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You have done something wrong.
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No one else knows about it because
you look good on the outside,
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but God's punishing you
for what you've done."
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(Derek) And remember that
startling comment of Zophar?
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What did he say?
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(Nathan) "You deserve worse than this."
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(Derek) "You deserve worse than
this, if the truth were known."
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And that's speaking to a man that
the Lord Himself called what?
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(Team) Blameless and upright.
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(Derek) Blameless and upright!
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So Job is confused; he doesn't understand.
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We're going to Job chapter 13 now,
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and Puia, if you'd begin our study
today with the first four verses.
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I'd like you to tell us after he speaks,
before we talk about his comments,
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what do you think he's
experiencing on the inside now?
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He's kind of going through a
very difficult time, Job 13:1-4.
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(Puia) I'll be reading from
the New King James Version:
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(Derek) Okay.
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Well, at first he said the Lord
gives, the Lord takes away;
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blessed be the name of the Lord.
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Someone said in our study, he's holding
on to the promise, though he may be
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a little bit in denial about everything
that's really happened to him.
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Nathan, where do you see him here?
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Whew, that's pretty strong
language here, isn't it?
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(Nathan) Yeah, and I
was just thinking that
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we can't miss what he said in verse two.
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(Derek) Okay.
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(Nathan) When he says, "What you know,
I also know; I am not inferior to you."
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Sometimes, meaning well, we
can speak down to people,
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make them feel inferior or like, "I
really have greater spiritual insight
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than you do; let me help
you straighten out here."
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(Derek) Okay.
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(Nathan) That's really not helpful.
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And we have to be careful that
we don't condescend to people.
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(Derek) Condescending, like we're
looking down, treating them as inferior.
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They had good intentions, right?
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We know that from the beginning; they
sat for a whole week with him, right?
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But there's something there that's wrong.
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How would you describe what's
happening on the inside?
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Anybody?
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What emotions are going
on there, do you think?
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Jason?
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(Jason) He sounds angry.
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(Derek) He sounds angry about their
attitude; in fact, doesn't he call them
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worthless physicians?
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"Forgers of lies."
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He's angry.
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(Nathan) He also seem to be helpless.
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He wants to speak to God; he
wants to reason with God.
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He's like, "Here I am; I'm a helpless
victim, and I can't even speak my case."
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(Derek) Okay.
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(Nathan) Or "present my case."
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(Derek) Is he just angry?
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Is there anything else going
on here, do you think?
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Defensive a little bit, like
wanting to present his case.
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He certainly wants to speak to God.
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(Joshua) But he's depressed as well.
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(Derek) You think he's depressed as well.
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He's not in denial about
what's happened, right?
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So, the good news is that God loves him!
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But he's struggling with why these
things are happening to him.
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So let me ask a question.
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Sometimes when people are hurting,
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especially if we're not that helpful,
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but even if we are helpful,
they can kind of lash out at us,
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because they're hurting so much, you know?
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"Let me help you with that bandage,"
you know, and they're like, "Aah!"
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Does that make sense to you?
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Have you ever met people like that?
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The're hurting so much they don't
want you to get near to them.
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So how do we show God's love to
someone who's at that level of pain?
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What do you think?
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What can we do for them?
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Jonathan?
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(Jonathan) I think it's helpful
to try to take time to understand
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where someone's reactions
are coming from.
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From personal experience, I've been in
situations where I haven't been able
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to act in quite the way that I wanted to,
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and some people are able
to understand that,
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and give me grace, and others
don't quite understand that.
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(Derek) So kind of thinking, you
know, there's a saying in America
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about walking in someone
else's shoes, right?
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In other words, take some time,
probably before I open my mouth, right?
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Anybody else?
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Someone's really hurting.
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He's pretty angry here.
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How would you approach someone
with that level of anger, Puia?
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(Puia) I think it's important for us,
first of all, to ask God to give us
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heavenly wisdom in how to approach them.
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I think that would be the first step.
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(Derek) What would be my human reaction,
if I didn't pray and think about it,
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when someone was kind of
lashing out like that?
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(Nathan) You'd take it personally
and think they're angry at you.
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(Derek) Okay, I could take it personally.
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What else might I do?
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(Team Member) You'd want to stay away.
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(Derek) Stay away, that's right, "I'm
just going to leave you," you know?
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"You can take care of it by yourself."
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(Nathan) Or even worse,
you might strike back.
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(Derek) Or you might try to strike
back, and none of those is helpful.
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Withdrawing, just to protect
myself is not helpful.
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Striking back is not helpful.
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So I've got to pray, "Lord, show me here.
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"But let me understand," like Jonathan
said, "what the person's going through,
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so I don't come to kind
of careless conclusions."
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Stephanie.
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(Stephanie) And if you're the one that has
caused them to be somewhat defensive,
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maybe that's where you
could be quiet, you know?
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"Lord, I've said something; help
me to be more understanding
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of where they're coming from."
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(Derek) Okay, so let's keep reading in
Job chapter 13, verses 5 through 12,
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and Timoetel, if you'd keep
reading for us in Job 13:5-12,
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and let's see what part of his
comments makes sense to you.
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Job's struggling, too, so I'm
not saying everything's perfect,
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but what about his response
to his friends makes sense?
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(Timoetel) Job 13, verses 5 to 12,
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and I'll be reading from
the New King James Version:
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(Derek) Was he speaking any truth there?
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(Team) Yes.
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(Derek) If you read the end
of the book, what happens?
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(Timoetel) God rebukes them.
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(Derek) God rebukes them; He says,
"You have not said what is right
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about my servant Job."
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So, that part, that
makes sense, doesn't it?
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In fact go back to verse
5, better to do what?
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(Derek, Team) Be quiet.
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(Derek) And if they're saying,
"Why is this happening?"
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It would be better to say, "I don't know.
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I don't have an answer."
Nathan.
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(Nathan) This is an indication,
too, of the unity of Scripture.
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Job is speaking under inspiration, or
this is recorded under inspiration here
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where he says, "It would be better to be
silent, and that would be your wisdom."
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And in Proverbs 17:28, it basically
says that even a fool seems wise
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when they keep their mouth shut.
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(Derek) Right, and back to the
comment you made earlier, in Job 2
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where the friends come and they're
simply silent and grieving,
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that probably was some comfort
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until they started speaking.
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So they brought three friends together,
apparently from different territories.
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They were very earnest
in wanting to help him.
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But again, how do I respond
to someone who's defensive?
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Let's try to understand
them, walk in their shoes.
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Can you share a time
when you realized that?
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Maybe a friend was hurting, and
you realized the best thing was
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just to be silent and
present with her or him?
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Or a time when you were hurting,
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and you really appreciated, someone
just kind of came to be with you,
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without trying to give you a bunch of -
what do we call those - kind of, canned
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or platitudes, canned answers.
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Anybody have an experience
where that happened for you?
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Joshua?
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(Joshua) Yeah, there was a time when
I experienced a death in the family,
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and someone came by my home
and gave me a box of pizza.
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And, you know, I just ate
that delicious box of pizza.
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They didn't want to ask me
a ton of questions
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about what's going on in my life,
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and I preferred that because I
didn't want to talk about it,
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but them just bringing the food to me
helped me a lot; I really appreciated it.
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(Derek) Does that remind you of a story in
Scripture, that wasn't pizza by the way,
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but does it remind you of
a story in the Scripture
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where a person was going through a
very hard time, and someone just said,
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"Here's some food"?
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Anybody remember that story?
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"Here's some food..."
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(Team Member) I remember Elijah.
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(Derek) Elijah, that's right, Elijah.
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And it was actually an angel, it
wasn't a pizza delivery person, right?
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An angel brought the food,
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but no big description of what
you should be feeling,
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but just knowing you're going to need
some food and some rest,
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"Here's something to eat."
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All right, anybody else? Puia?
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(Puia) Well, in my culture,
in the Mizo culture,
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we have a very strong community support
whenever people lose their family members,
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so what we would do as a community
is visit that family's house
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and just hang out with them, just
comfort them without really needing
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to say everything about the person
that they just lost, but just being there,
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just being there and being a support.
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It's such an important part of healing.
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(Derek) Someone's probably going
to write an email and say,
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"Where is the Mizo culture?"
and that's north...
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(Puia) It's on the border
of India and Burma.
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(Derek) India and Burma, okay.
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And there, there's part of the culture
of just coming and being present
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in order to bring some comfort.
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Thanks for sharing that.
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Well, having kind of vented...
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You know what the word "vent"
means, to kind of let it out, right?
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You know, "I'm not really happy
with the counsel you're giving,
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and I'm not really understanding
everything about God,"
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but he speaks some words of hope now.
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These are glimpses of hope, right?
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Naiara, if you could read for
us Job 13, verses 15 and 16.
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(Naiara) Sure, I'll be reading
from the King James Version,
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Job 13, verses 15 to 16:
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(Derek) He's saying what?
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"I believe I know my heart,
and my heart is..."?
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Yeah, "My heart is sincere."
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Now he's confessed his
sins; we'll talk about that.
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He believes that because of the mercy
of God, he's standing, how, before God?
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Blameless, and by the way, was he right?
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(Team) Yes.
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(Derek) Yeah, God called
him blameless, right?
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So he's saying, "I'm going to
trust my relationship with God."
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How does his relationship with God
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say, "I know the character of God,
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and I'm going to keep holding on
even though I don't understand." ?
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Because he still doesn't
understand what's happening.
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How does his awareness of the character
of God plus his connection with God
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give him courage to hold on, even
though he doesn't understand?
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Anybody?
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(Tricia Lee) We can imagine he must be
so, just, worn out and physically tired,
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emotionally tired, and he has three of
his friends telling him all these things.
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In all of that, instead of just saying,
"You guys must be right; if three people
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are telling me the same thing, it's true."
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(Derek) Three against one.
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(Tricia Lee) Three against one,
he's literally getting beaten up.
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His wife is not even in his corner
necessarily, giving him the right advice,
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either, and he can still, through
that all, say, "You are lying!"
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That knowledge of who God is was just so
strong he could say, "Here are my friends,
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and you're all agreeing
with each other, but no!
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Those are lies; you're forgers of lies;
you're not really helping me right now."
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I think that's powerful because when
you're at your wits' end, you're looking
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for an answer; he was looking for answers,
and sometimes we can say, "These people
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came to me; maybe God sent
them to me to tell me this."
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But he knew enough about God to know,
"God would not send you to me to tell me
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these untrue things.
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I just want to talk to Him and understand
from Him why this is happening."
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(Derek) There's a text of Scripture, I'm
going to have us read, and I want us
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to continue, that speaks about
not what we see giving us hope,
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but our connection with
God giving us hope.
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And it's a Scripture song my wife
wrote to help me remember it,
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from Lamentations 3.
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You might say, "Can any good
thing come out of Lamentations?"
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What does the word "lamentations" mean?
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To grieve, right, to lament,
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and it's after the
destruction of Jerusalem,
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and the prophet Jeremiah.
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Brittany, if you'd read that for us in
Lamentations 3, verses 22 through 26.
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(Brittany) I'll be reading from
the New King James Version,
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Lamentations 3:22-26:
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(Derek) Wait quietly, that
reminds us of our song,
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which was written, what,
400 and some years earlier
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by the psalmist, "Wait on the
Lord; be of good courage."
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He's writing this lamentation;
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what's going on around Jeremiah?
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When he says, "Through the Lord's
mercies we are not consumed;
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His compassions fail not."
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What's going on around him, Jonathan?
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(Jonathan) The whole city is being
destroyed or is about to be or...
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(Derek) Well, "Lamentations,"
I think it's over;
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it's been destroyed.
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Captivity has happened...I mean,
everything is falling apart.
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And what could he be saying?
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What could he be saying?
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"My hope is lost,"
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"Where are you, God?"
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Or, "What did they do?"
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And instead what's he choosing to do?
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(Team Member) Wait on the Lord.
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(Derek) Yeah, he's choosing to wait
on the Lord, to trust in the Lord,
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to look to the Lord.
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Tricia Lee.
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(Tricia Lee) I think what's interesting
is that these three friends show up
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at this particular time in his life,
when Job has been walking with God
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for many years, I would imagine, before
that, and he has an established
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relationship with God that won't
be wavered by these friends coming
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and telling him things.
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And that's probably contributing
to why he's so upset.
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it's just like, "You don't
even know my walk with God.
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Where were you, coming to visit me when
I was praying for forgiveness every
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morning for my sons and daughters?
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You show up at this particular time, and
granted, I'm happy you came, but you're
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not really saying anything
that's helpful to me right now."
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And I think that when we hear these
encouraging words from Jeremiah
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and from Job, it's just that they have
established a walk and a relationship
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with God that cannot be swayed by what
they see or what they hear from their
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so-called comforters...
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(Derek) Or what's happening to them.
-
(Tricia Lee) Or what's happening to them.
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(Derek) Naiara.
-
(Naiara) It just amazes me that also
he knew himself, because he was so low
-
to a point that anything that somebody
can tell you, you may be just like, "Okay,
-
yes, you're right; it's my fault," but,
yes, he knew God, he acquainted himself
-
with God, if we go read in Proverbs
22, but also he knew himself.
-
He knew himself so much,
he said, "Wait a minute.
-
I know who I am; I know what I have
been doing, so you are wrong."
-
(Derek) I want to unpack the
"acquaint yourself with God",
-
because it seems to me, when you're
going through difficult times,
-
a clear picture of the character
of God is crucially important.
-
(Team) Yes.
-
(Derek) In fact, we need to
acquaint ourselves with God
-
before those hard times come,
because then we need to be holding on
-
through the dark valley, right?
-
So how do we get a true picture
of the character of God?
-
How do we get to know Him in
a living connection, Marianela?
-
(Marianela) I think through those hard
moments, and even if they're small trials,
-
and you let God lead you
and ask for the Holy Spirit,
-
He will guide you through that.
-
And in those small moments when a
big trial comes, you realize that,
-
"Wow, God is different.
-
My relationship with Him was
different in these small moments,
-
and now He's going to provide," and
I see how Job was able to defend God
-
to his friends.
-
(Derek) Defend the character...
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(Marianela) Defend the character of God.
-
(Derek) Now you said something really
important, which I want to just restate,
-
and that is that we trust
Him in the little challenges
-
so that in the big challenges,
you know, we've learned.
-
We've learned He's dependable.
-
When else, how else, Nathan, do we
learn about the real character of God
-
so that when we don't understand we say,
"Well, I may not see the path, but I trust
-
the God I've chosen to know and love"?
-
(Nathan) I was going to share something
else, but I think the clearest picture
-
of the character of God is
revealed in the life of Jesus.
-
We look there, and we see Jesus saying,
"If you've seen Me, you've seen
-
the Father," and I say, "Wow, I want to
be in a connection with that kind of a God
-
because look at how awesome Jesus is."
-
Look at the constant love and
acceptance that He showed to everyone.
-
But I was going to point out that in verse
15 when Job said, "Though He slay me,
-
yet will I trust Him," that
Job sets an example for me.
-
When I've been in really difficult times,
and I've had my share, and there's times
-
when things have happened unfairly or
whatever, you know, it's very easy to say,
-
"God, I'm mad at You," or "Why did You
allow this?" and I've been there, too,
-
but Job makes a decision.
-
By an act of his will, he
says, "I will trust Him.
-
I don't understand it; it doesn't
make sense, even if He slays me."
-
"I'm at the point of death,"
is kind of how he's feeling.
-
"I'm suffering from the top of
my head to the soles of my feet,
-
and I've lost everything.
-
I'm suffering emotionally; I'm suffering
mentally; I'm suffering physically.
-
I'm hurting spiritually because I'm
all messed up in trying to understand
-
what God's doing," and yet he
says, "I'm going to trust Him."
-
So I see, in that, the power of a
decision and the power of our words
-
and our self-talk.
-
And so, what I've taken from that, in
my experience, there have been times
-
when I say, "Okay, God, I don't
get it, but I know You love me.
-
I know that Jesus died
for me; He's my Savior.
-
I know You want to spend eternity
with me, so I'm trusting You."
-
And it's the hardest thing to do when
everything seems like, "He's not even
-
blessing you; He doesn't love
me," but I say, "I know You do."
-
So I think for me an act of faith is
speaking the words that we know are true
-
even when it doesn't
seem to be true for us.
-
(Derek) Speaking the words
that we know are true,
-
that have come out of that
relationship with God, right?
-
What we know.
-
Puia?
-
(Puia) Yes, I think it's important for us
to look back on the past and see where
-
God has led us, you know?
-
Or what we like to call "mountaintop
experiences" where God has shown us...
-
(Derek) Maybe even valley
experiences, right?
-
(Puia) ...and see how God
has led us through them.
-
I think by looking back over how God has
guided us, that can really give us hope
-
that God will still bring us through
this current situation that we are in.
-
I believe that's what
Job is doing, you know?
-
Holding onto God and reminding
himself what God has done for him.
-
(Derek) So we're talking about how
we can experience hope in the midst
-
of difficult times and how our
understanding of the character of God
-
is really important.
-
Did anyone grow up with that kind of
false notion that the three friends
-
are sharing, "Well, if
something's happening to you,
-
God obviously is judging you"?
-
Did anybody grow up with that?
-
That's really kind of a stumbling block.
-
Anybody?
-
(Nathan) I did.
-
(Derek) Yes, Nathan?
-
That was just your picture
of God, growing up.
-
(Nathan) Yeah, good people are
blessed, and bad people are cursed.
-
(Derek) Okay.
-
(Nathan) A common understanding
that I grew up with, that God is,
-
kind of, looking over you and watching,
and you're going to get what you deserve.
-
(Derek) You know, I think a lot
of us grew up with the idea
-
that God is more interested in
catching you misbehaving than He is
-
in rescuing you from hurting yourself.
-
A different picture of the
character of God. Tricia Lee?
-
(Tricia Lee) The opposite
is also equally as damaging,
-
the idea that if you're blessed
that you must be right with God,
-
and so if things are going well in my life
-
I don't need Him; I'm
probably being favored.
-
So you start to slip and let go of
God because you think, you know,
-
instead of thinking about the
responsibility you have, you think, "Oh,
-
I must be okay, so I don't have to do
as much to maintain that relationship
-
with Him," so both ends
are very dangerous.
-
(Derek) I think it was the psalmist Asaph
who said, "I don't understand why these
-
wicked people seem to be doing so well,
but then I looked and saw the end,"
-
so you're saying that
can be confusing, too.
-
The righteous are suffering,
-
and sometimes it seems like the wicked
are doing well, right?
-
There was another hand raised. Missy.
-
Do you remember what...?
-
(Missy) It was just a personal
experience, and I was going to let it go,
-
but since you just... let me share...
-
For a long time, through highs and
lows, I've had a connection with God
-
where I've really - I'm not trying
to pat myself on the back -
-
it's just I have this relationship
with God, and thank God I've had it,
-
because there have been times that we
have been tried, and tried very hard,
-
and in those moments I remember calling
out to God saying, "I don't think I have
-
the kind of faith You want me to have.
-
I'm just not Abraham, I'm not these
big heroes of faith," you know,
-
"I'm not who You want me to be."
-
And I go to my Bible, reading it on
my app, and this passage pops up,
-
Lamentations 3:22-26.
-
(Derek) The one that we just read.
-
(Missy) Yes, I mean, just randomly,
-
and I just felt God speaking to
me in those moments, you know.
-
Give God the opportunity.
-
Don't let go for any reason whatsoever,
and He will come to your rescue,
-
and I have felt rescued by God through
His Word or through words of friends,
-
time and again.
-
(Derek) And that's a great illustration,
a sequel to where I'd like us to go, now,
-
and that is some other texts
of Scripture that give you hope
-
in the midst of a difficult journey
and also some stories of Scripture
-
that illustrate hope.
-
So let's start with some texts
of Scripture that give you hope,
-
even on a difficult journey.
-
Marianela, did you have one, or a story?
-
(Marianela) I have a story.
-
(Derek) Okay,
-
(Marianela) It's Moses when he was with
God and, I can't remember which mountain
-
it was, but the people of Israel were
just not following God's commands;
-
they were being rebellious, and God
says, "You know, I regret what I did.
-
I'm going to destroy them all," and
Moses goes up to Him and says, "No,
-
You can't do that; You promised that the
seed of Abraham was going to be blessed
-
from generation to generation."
-
And he cried out to God and said,
"You can't do that because Your Word,
-
You promised in Your Word."
-
I see that story as so powerful because
sometimes we have to come to God
-
and say, "You promised, and You said
in Your Word that You would bless
-
or You would take care of me; You would
provide for me," even in those times
-
where we're feeling like
we can't continue anymore.
-
(Derek) And by the way, he didn't
change the heart of God, did he?
-
(Team) No.
-
(Derek) Because when God reveals
Himself, He's abundant in mercy
-
and lovingkindness, right?
-
It's almost like a reverse psychology
where the Lord says,
-
"Well, what do you think?"
-
And, "Well, I think you should do this,"
as if He hadn't already known in His heart
-
how He wanted to treat His people.
-
But that illustration of God, we see
God again with Abraham over Sodom
-
and Gomorrah, right?
-
Wanting to show compassion.
-
A text of Scripture or an insight?
-
(Tricia Lee) I have another story.
-
In another lesson, Stephanie was sharing
that God can work all things for good.
-
I think about Joseph who, I mean, was
betrayed by his own brothers, you know,
-
sold into slavery; he was a prisoner.
-
He seemed to have these rises and falls,
but through it all God allowed that
-
situation of his life to be a
blessing, not only for his own family
-
but even for the entire nation of Egypt
he was able to be in the right place
-
at the right time to give wisdom and
counsel to save them all from a famine.
-
And how many times are we in a place
where we feel like we've been betrayed,
-
or we feel like we're in some sort of
prison of life, and we see no good coming
-
from it, but the end, God can still
use us and bless us and take us
-
out of that prison, from
the pit to the palace.
-
(Derek) So that gives you hope.
-
You know, I'm thinking about
Joseph just for a minute.
-
You might say, "Well, he brought some
of the sibling rivalry upon himself,"
-
and that's kind of why he
got thrown in the pit.
-
Maybe he deserved that a little bit.
-
Some people could argue that, but
when you to Potiphar's wife, where he's
-
determining to honor God even though
Potiphar's wife is trying to seduce him,
-
I mean, there is no way - this
is unjust treatment, you know?
-
We'd file a lawsuit today,
wouldn't we, for sexual harassment?
-
So whether sometimes we contribute to
the problem or other times we're just
-
totally innocent, we need
hope in the midst of that.
-
And the hope you see there was...?
-
(Tricia Lee) That God can use that
tribulation and bring a blessing
-
in your life and in others around you.
-
(Derek) All right.
-
Another text or a story, Joshua.
-
(Joshua) I think about
Daniel and the Hebrew boys,
-
but more so the story of Daniel,
and here's the reason why.
-
Daniel took a stand for God, and
although he was being persecuted
-
because of his stand, he didn't have
anyone else supporting him concerning
-
the story of him being in the lion's den.
-
(Derek) You're in Daniel chapter
6 where he's basically commanded
-
that he cannot pray to
anyone except the king?
-
(Joshua) Yes, and the reason why I
appreciate the story so much is that,
-
in my life, it seems that every
time I'm taking a stand for God,
-
there's no one by my side
taking a stand with me.
-
So I always feel alone in the matter.
-
When I look at Hananiah, Mishael,
and Azariah, they had each other.
-
They could stand there and say, you know,
"We're brothers; we serve the Lord,"
-
but I constantly find myself in situations
where it's just me, and I'm by myself.
-
So I think about Daniel just being
in that lion's den, and, I mean, wow!
-
There's nobody else he's looking to around
him like, "Okay, you run from that lion;
-
I'll run from this one."
-
I just think about it, and I say how much
more strength he had coming from God
-
because he had no one else to look to.
-
(Derek) I think he knew there were some
other people there in the lion's den
-
because the Lord sent His angel, he said,
and shut the lion's mouth, but, yeah.
-
By the way, let's talk about that,
too, because that's a great story.
-
Should we intentionally seek to surround
ourselves with other people of faith,
-
Nathan, that could be a support to
us when we're feeling discouraged?
-
(Nathan) I was thinking, as Joshua
was sharing, that Daniel's friends
-
must have been praying for him, at least,
and even in the opening chapter of Daniel,
-
we see that they're united together, and
then in chapter 2 where Daniel is seeking
-
time from the king to answer his concern,
Daniel goes to his friends; he says,
-
"Pray with me," you know?
-
So we do need to surround ourselves with
friends who can pray for us and lift us up
-
and have the same faith.
-
(Derek) We're talking here from Job's
experience about choosing to find hope.
-
You said, "I choose to trust God," right?
-
Choosing to find hope
-
because I know the character of God
and have a relationship with Him
-
in the midst of suffering
that I may not understand.
-
Jason.
-
(Jason) I think of the story of Esther,
where her life and the lives of her people
-
were on the line, and she
had to go before the king.
-
But before she went before the king,
she had all the people praying for her.
-
She had good counsel from her
cousin Mordecai, and so she was
-
preparing ahead of time, sort of
in a way like Daniel may have been.
-
(Derek) Okay, and of course there,
when she actually is about to go in,
-
what does she ask her friends to do?
-
(Team) Fast and pray.
-
(Derek) Fast and pray, right?
-
We've been hearing that
over and over again,
-
before I open my mouth in a troubled
situation - with her she's speaking
-
to the king - but wherever we are,
let's pray and maybe ask some of our
-
godly friends to pray for us, too, right?
-
Yes, Puia.
-
(Puia) I appreciate Tricia Lee bringing
up Joseph, because I believe, you know,
-
Joseph's story is such a huge inspiration
for, especially, young people today,
-
I would say.
-
All generations but especially today we're
bombarded with media every single day,
-
and Joseph's story reminds us of how
important it is to stay faithful to God,
-
to stay pure, you know?
-
The enemy wants us to think
that we are missing out
-
once we choose to be faithful for
God, but the truth is the opposite.
-
When we choose to be faithful for God,
Joseph's story reminds us once again
-
that we're not missing out on anything.
-
We're not missing out at all; the end,
the reward, is much, much greater.
-
(Derek) Stephanie, I'm going to
come to you next, but how do we...
-
We have these stories popping up, and it's
interesting; I asked you text or stories,
-
and you're all giving me stories,
which tells me that stories are easy
-
to remember, right?
-
So there's a lot of people, they don't
know any of the stories of the Bible,
-
how do we get to know these stories,
that then the Holy Spirit can bring them
-
to our remembrance?
-
Think about that after
Stephanie's comment.
-
(Stephanie) Actually I have two verses.
-
(Derek) Oh, you do? Okay!
-
Well hold the verses just a second, then.
-
How do we get to know the stories?
What's the answer?
-
(Team) Read them.
-
(Derek) You know, someone told me one
time, "I think I need to get a children's
-
Bible story book and just read these Bible
stories and get to know them, so that
-
when I'm reading in the Bible and Joseph -
Oh, I know the story of Joseph in Egypt."
-
That's not a bad idea
-
to just get to know the
great stories of the Bible.
-
Yes, you want to respond to that, and
then I want to go to the Bible texts.
-
(Nathan) I was going to say, I came
into the faith late, and I felt like,
-
"Boy, little kids know the stories
that I don't know in the Bible."
-
So not only know the stories but then
to contemplate and think about them
-
because we can read them, but
every time I hear the stories...
-
Sometimes when I'm driving, I just
immerse myself in God's Word by playing
-
an audio Bible, and new
insights come every time.
-
I'm asking God, "Show me," and even as
you were talking about Joseph, I was
-
thinking, Joshua was making the point
there are times when we're all alone,
-
Joseph really was alone; he had nobody.
-
I was thinking, even his family, his
father thought he was dead, so it wasn't
-
like his father was praying, but then I
thought, you know, maybe his brothers -
-
they were living with that lie, and they
knew he was alive, but they thought he was
-
sold into slavery -
-
I wonder if any of them ever prayed for
him because they were feeling God's burden
-
on their heart, and they were praying,
"Lord, wherever Joseph is, I hope that
-
you're blessing him."
-
Maybe he wasn't completely alone
in that regard, but we know that
-
God was with him, and we read those
very words, "God was with him."
-
I'm thinking of Puia's comment that the
mountaintops can help us get through,
-
and you mentioned and the valleys, too.
-
There is a quote by Billy Graham
that's meaningful to me, and he said,
-
"Mountaintops are for views and
inspiration, but the fruit is grown
-
in the valley," and that's in those
deep, dark times in our lives when God is
-
growing fruit in our lives,
I believe, spiritual fruit.
-
(Derek) Because we know Him,
and we refuse to let go.
-
But again, lest we think, "Oh, wow,
this is really important; I think I'm
-
going to...," underneath us are the arms
of a loving God because, like you said,
-
Missy, in another discussion,
we've made the choice, right?
-
Confess our sins, ask Him to
cleanse us, accept His salvation.
-
We're going to hold on, and that's going
to take us to some texts, Stephanie.
-
I know you know the Bible well; which
ones come to your mind that give us hope
-
sometimes when we don't understand, but
we're trusting the character of God?
-
(Stephanie) Two verses, they're short
verses, but I like to couple them
-
together, and the first
one is in Luke 1:37.
-
(Derek) Let's go there first then.
-
(Stephanie) And then the
second one is Job 26, verse 7.
-
(Derek) Okay, let's find
Luke 1; did you say Luke 1?
-
(Stephanie) Luke 1:37 and then Job 26:7.
-
(Derek) You'll have to remind us of
the second one when we get there.
-
Let's go to Luke 1:37 first.
-
(Stephanie) I'll be reading from
the New King James Version:
-
(Derek) Context?
-
Who's speaking and to whom
is the person speaking?
-
Answer, anybody?
-
Who's speaking?
-
(Team) An angel.
-
(Derek) An angel, right.
-
And speaking to?
-
(Team) Mary.
-
(Derek) Yup, "For with God..."?
-
(Derek, Team) "Nothing
will be impossible."
-
(Derek) Okay.
-
(Nathan) It was the angel Gabriel.
-
(Derek) All right, that's the
leading, archangel, right?
-
Gabriel.
-
He's speaking the truth.
-
By the way, if what we've studied
in Scripture is true, at one point,
-
Satan, once called Lucifer,
was a covering angel.
-
So one's speaking lies
and now in rebellion,
-
and one is sent by God
to speak the truth. Amen?
-
(Team) Amen.
-
(Derek) But "with God nothing will
be impossible," and the other verse?
-
(Stephanie) The second
one is in Job 26, verse 7.
-
(Derek) Job 26.
-
(Stephanie) Verse 7, and this is
Job talking about God at creation.
-
(Derek) Okay, just give
us a moment to find that.
-
Job 26...?
-
(Stephanie) Verse 7.
-
(Derek) And verse 7.
-
(Stephanie) And it says in
the New King James Version:
-
And I feel like this is backing
up that God can do anything.
-
He can take something out of absolutely
nothing and then hang it on nothing.
-
So when I read the verse that nothing
is impossible with God, I believe it,
-
because He can do anything.
-
And even if I can't see the good that's
going to come out of it, I have to trust
-
that if He can do that, He can take
care of my little issue in life.
-
(Derek) Yeah, "I know my
Redeemer lives", right?
-
Another Bible text, anyone,
that can give us hope,
-
and, you know, maybe one the Holy Spirit
just brings to your remembrance now.
-
Yes, Tricia Lee.
-
(Tricia Lee) I like 1 Corinthians
chapter 10 and verse 13.
-
(Derek) Okay, someone's watching
Hope Sabbath School today,
-
and this verse is going to become an
anchor for her, an anchor for him,
-
as we talk about choosing to trust
a God we've come to know and love,
-
even when we don't understand
because things are hard.
-
1 Corinthians 10:13?
-
(Tricia Lee) I'm reading from
the New King James Version:
-
(Derek) Now we have an
advantage that Job did not have.
-
What is our advantage?
-
(Team) Scripture.
-
(Derek) That's right, we have
these texts that we're reading,
-
given, according to Peter,
under inspiration of God, right?
-
This one given by the apostle Paul.
-
So we have the advantage
that we can go to that.
-
What did Job have?
-
What did he have, anybody?
-
He had his experience with God.
-
What else did he have?
-
(Marianela) He chose to make a
commitment with God.
-
(Derek) Yeah, he has made a commitment,
but in terms of knowing about God,
-
what else did he have?
-
(Nathan) Passed-on knowledge.
-
(Derek) He had passed-on knowledge that
was passed down through the patriarchs.
-
(Nathan) The promise of the Redeemer.
-
(Derek) The promise of a Redeemer coming,
because he speaks about the Redeemer,
-
but what else did he have?
-
(Puia) General revelation through nature.
-
(Derek) That's right; he had the
general revelation through nature,
-
where he speaks about, "I think God
can hang something on nothing," right?
-
"He can speak worlds into
existence", so he has nature.
-
In other words, he's taking everything
that's available to him, and he's saying,
-
"I choose to trust that God."
-
(Tricia Lee) I wanted to make a
comment about that Scripture I read.
-
I think what's most encouraging about
it is not the fact that, yes, it's
-
encouraging that God can make a way of
escape, but I love where it says that God
-
is faithful, and it's like even if we
have our questions or doubts, or we're
-
struggling, and we don't know what the
answers are, even if we are doubting
-
and we are struggling with our own faith,
God is faithful, and He is those arms
-
that are carrying us.
-
That gives me encouragement that, even
if I'm failing miserably, I can trust
-
in a God who's faithful and can
carry me through something.
-
It doesn't depend upon how
strong I am in the moment.
-
I could be the weakest Christian ever,
but because of God's faithfulness,
-
he can take me through it.
-
(Derek) That's back to
knowing the character of God.
-
Isn't there somewhere it says, "Even when
we're unfaithful, He is faithful for He
-
cannot deny Himself"?
-
I love that.
-
All right, we've got 17 hands raised,
so I'm going to work my way down.
-
Joshua.
-
(Joshua) Something I want to mention,
going back to a comment that Nathan made.
-
Nathan, you mentioned that when you
were older you were looking and saying,
-
"Oh, you know, these little children
know stories that I'm only now learning."
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And for any parents that may be out
there, I want them to understand that
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it's very important to teach your child
how to really study the Word of God
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for themselves and to build a
relationship with God through them,
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because growing up, what I saw is that
we knew a lot of different Bible stories
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simply because we were watching
Bible cartoons, or simply because we
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were watching a Bible movie or something,
but it was not that we were studying
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on our own and really trying to
get to know God for ourselves.
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(Derek) That relationship or connection.
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(Joshua) Yes, those are two
completely different things.
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And when I became an adult, I saw that the
adults that came to Jesus at an older age
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were seeking Him because of
the true essence of who He was,
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not simply based on their
culture that they grew up in.
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Do you see what I mean?
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And so I think we should all strive
to really know God for ourselves,
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and we should teach our
children to do the same.
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(Derek) Going to come to the
next sentence, so it's not
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just about information,
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it's about relationship, right?
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(Team) Amen.
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(Derek) So when I hear the story of Daniel
in the Lion's Den, I don't just know that
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for a Bible quiz, but I say, "I want that
relationship with God that Daniel had.
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I want to trust Him even in the
lion's den, even in difficult times."
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Marianela.
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(Marianela) I admire Job so much after
all this study because I see, like in,
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if we go to chapter 31...
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(Derek) You want to get ahead
to the end of the story?
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(Marianela) Yeah.
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(Derek) You can do that, Job 31.
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(Marianela) I just have such an admiration
for what he says in these four verses.
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Job 31, verses 1 through 4.
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(Derek) It reminds me of a story
where a little boy was so distressed,
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and then a little later he was
really happy, and his daddy said,
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"What happened?"
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He said, "I read the end of the
book; it's going to be okay."
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Sometimes we like to hear the end
of the story, but you're in Job...?
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(Marianela) 31.
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(Derek) 31.
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(Marianela) Verses 1 through 4.
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(Derek) Verses 1 through 4.
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(Marianela) I just want to admire him.
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He didn't have all the verses
that we have today to...
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(Derek) To give us hope.
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(Marianela) ...to give us hope, to
let us know that God can do anything.
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Anything is not impossible for God, you
know, but he chose to make this covenant
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with the Lord, and his commitment in
his heart to fear Him, not out of just
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fear or to be afraid of Him but to
stand up boldly for God's promises
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and God's commandments.
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(Derek) Okay, read for us
Job 31, verses 1 through 4.
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(Marianela) It says:
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And it makes me think of just how
faithful he was even with his eyes,
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with the purity inside of him, you know,
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that, the admiration, what a great
character to follow, you know?
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(Derek) It's kind of like, I guess
there is comfort and hope in this,
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"God, even when everyone else is
misunderstanding me, You know my heart."
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(Team) Yes, amen.
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(Derek) Right?
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"You know my heart, God," and you
say, "Well, what if he had sinned?"
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Well, "God, I confess my sin;
I ask You to cleanse me.
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You know my heart."
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That's a beautiful thing.
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"You count my steps; You know
all things, but You know me."
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We've got time for one more.
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We've got several hands
that are raised here.
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Let me start with Nathan and go back to
Puia, either a Bible text or a reflection.
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The key lesson I'm learning in this
study is that that relationship with God,
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knowing Him and His character and having
a connection with Him, will give me hope
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even when I don't understand
everything that's going on around me.
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Nathan.
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(Nathan) I love Paul's encouragement
to the Philippian believers
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in Philippians 1:6.
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(Derek) Okay.
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(Nathan) He writes his letter to the
Philippian church, and he reminds them
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of something that I need to remember, too.
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I need to be reminded,
you know, that God...
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(Derek) Read it for us, if you would.
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(Nathan) Philippians 1:6 from
the New King James Version:
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(Derek) So that reminds us of what Puia
said, remembering how God has worked
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in our lives to this point, and I'm going
to choose to trust Him and hold on.
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Puia.
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(Puia) Yes, I would
like to read this verse
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from 2 Corinthians chapter 4, verse 18.
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(Derek) Okay, 2 Corinthians.
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(Puia) 2 Corinthians chapter 4, verse 18.
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(Derek) Chapter 4 and verse 18.
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(Puia) Yes.
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(Derek) Give us just a moment to find it.
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This is giving you hope even when
we're passing through a difficult time.
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We're going to hold onto God.
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How does it read in your Bible?
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(Puia) I'll be reading from
the New King James Version:
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(Team) Amen.
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(Puia) So when my faith is being tested,
I hold onto the faith, that even though
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I cannot see, I cannot
understand everything right now,
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I hold onto that faith that something
is out there - God is out there.
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I cannot see Him, but I know.
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(Derek) So when is the best time?
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We've talked about, Marianela, you
said even in little trials I can learn
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God is trustworthy so that when bigger
trials come, I'm going to keep holding on
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even when I don't understand, but when is
the best time to develop that relationship
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with God, knowing who He is, that
gives us hope no matter what we face?
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When's the best time, Stephanie?
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(Stephanie) Preferably
before the trials come,
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but the trials sometimes are
where people learn to trust God.
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(Derek) All right, preferably before.
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Anybody else, when's the best time?
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(Team) Right now!
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(Derek) Now, okay, right now.
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I was hoping for one word
rather than a long discussion.
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The best time to get to know God, not
just know about Him but know Him, is now.
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(Team) Yes.
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(Derek) And that's what
we've learned in our study.
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We'll trust Him and His character of love.
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We're going to hold onto Him
even through the dark valley.
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That's a lesson that will guide our lives,
but it's more than for us, isn't it?
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Because there's so many people, "I don't
understand; I don't know where to go,"
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and there's a whisper, "Just
curse God and give up."
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No, no.
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We know the God of hope can comfort us.
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He is with us always, even
to the end of the age.
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We'll choose to hold onto Him.
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Get to know Him today, know
His character, trust Him today,
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accept His salvation today,
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accept His Spirit in your life today,
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and know that whatever we
face, that we are not alone.
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Let's pray.
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Father in Heaven,
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thank You for Your Word; it's so rich with
illustrations to remind us of the truth
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that You can be trusted, that nothing is
impossible for You, that You will never
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leave us or forsake us, that
You are the God of all hope.
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And I just pray that we trust You with all
of our hearts today and that You would
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give us a peace that the world cannot
give, as we find our rest in You.
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We pray it in the name of Jesus.
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Amen.
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Well, thanks for joining us for
Hope Sabbath School today.
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What a journey through the Book of Job!
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I hope you'll stay with us because these
lessons will not only bless our lives,
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but there are people all around
you, think about them just now,
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who need to find hope for
this life and for eternity.
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So take what you've learned today,
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go out and make a difference in
the lives of those around you.
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