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    ♪ theme music ♪
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    (Derek) Welcome to Hope Sabbath School,
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    an in-depth, interactive study
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    of the Word of God.
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    Have you ever felt hopeless
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    like you were going through a
    dark time and couldn't see light
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    at the end of the tunnel?
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    Today on Hope Sabbath School,
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    we're going to be talking
    about intimations of hope,
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    glimmers of hope even in a difficult time,
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    which will change our
    hearts and give us courage.
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    I'm glad you joined us in our
    study of the Book of Job.
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    And welcome to the team.
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    What a series this has been,
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    and we've been looking for hope all along.
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    We found it in a living
    connection with God, right?
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    And here's Job who doesn't
    even know about Jesus.
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    We have the advantage
    of the full revelation
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    of the character of God in the
    Person of Jesus our Savior,
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    but there is hope, even
    in the challenging times,
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    and we're so thankful for that today.
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    And we're glad you've joined us for our
    study wherever you are around the world.
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    We don't know how many countries are
    represented, though the last statistics
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    I had on our Android app, 150 countries
    were using the Android app, 137, I think,
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    using our IOS app, which is for
    Apple devices, so lots of you.
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    We'd love to hear from you even
    if you've written to us before.
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    Tell us how the Word of
    God is blessing your life
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    and your sharing that with others.
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    You can write to us at sshope@hopetv.org,
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    or you can put a note
    on our Facebook page,
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    just go to our Hope Sabbath
    School Facebook page
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    and leave a comment.
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    Here's a note from Zambia.
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    Chileshe writes from Zambia
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    and says, "Hi, Hope Sabbath School."
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    (Team) Hi.
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    (Derek) "Thanks for the amazing
    Sabbath School discussions.
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    They are helping me grow
    spiritually every week."
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    That's our prayer, isn't it?
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    "May God continue blessing
    you as you help us."
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    Chileshe, and I must confess
    I do not know, Chileshe,
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    if that's a man's name or a lady's name;
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    you'll have to send me another email,
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    but Chileshe attends the
    University SDA Church in Lusaka.
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    So we're glad you wrote to us.
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    Here's a note from Samuel.
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    Thank you for writing,
    Samuel, from Nigeria.
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    We have a lot of Hope Sabbath
    School members in Nigeria.
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    "I'm from the Gudi Sabbath
    School Center in Nigeria.
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    We're just a family of three, but we enjoy
    our Sabbath worship because on Fridays
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    we watch Hope Sabbath School.
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    It helps me to teach the class
    in a very interesting way."
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    And Samuel says, "I'm a
    high school teacher,"
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    so we are teaching teachers
    to teach the Word.
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    Isn't that awesome?
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    (Team) Yes.
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    (Derek) "God bless the Sabbath
    School in-depth teaching.
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    It's the reason why we
    have an interesting class."
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    (Derek, Team) Amen.
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    Well we are exciting whenever we hear
    from Hope Sabbath School members
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    who are becoming Hope
    Sabbath School teachers.
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    And you can download the outline that
    we write, that semi-structured outline,
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    interactive outline,
    website: hopetv.org/hopess,
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    and you can click on the outline and
    download it and use it in your own class.
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    Thanks for writing to us, Samuel.
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    Here's a note from Peter in Kenya,
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    and I was impressed with what Peter said.
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    He said, "I'm writing to you
    from Chuka University in Kenya.
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    Hope Sabbath School's been quite a
    blessing since I started following
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    just one month ago.
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    We usually assemble on Friday
    evenings together with my roommate
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    and other hostel mates."
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    I guess that's like a dormitory situation.
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    "It's helped us to understand
    the lesson in an amazing way."
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    Sounds like you've got a mini
    Hope Sabbath School there, right?
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    In Chuka University.
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    That's wonderful, Peter.
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    Keep inviting other
    classmates to join you.
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    "We pray for special blessings
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    as you present God's message
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    to the souls of the world.
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    Praise the Lord."
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    Well, Peter, praise the Lord for you, too.
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    Thanks for writing to us from
    Chuka University in Kenya.
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    And one last note from Phoenix in
    California, thanks for writing.
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    Now is Phoenix a man's name or a lady's
    name or can it be used for both,
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    does anybody know?
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    Phoenix.
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    We'll need another email.
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    "Good morning, beautiful
    servants of the Most High.
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    Just wanted to say praise the
    Lord for Hope Sabbath School.
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    It is the high point of my day.
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    I learn so much; it's interesting,
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    plus it's just a blessing.
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    Being filled with the
    understanding of God's Word,
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    it's like tasting water in the desert."
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    (Team) Wow.
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    (Derek) "Excellent job, team.
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    Plus now with the app on my phone,
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    it really rocks."
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    That sounds American,
    doesn't it, Timoetel?
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    But, you know, you can go to the App Store
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    or to Google Play; you
    can download our app.
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    We've got an Android
    app and an Apple app.
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    Put it on your phone;
    it's free to download.
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    It says, "Now I can watch Hope Sabbath
    School anytime with no excuses.
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    Just keep up the good work.
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    God encourage your heart to keep
    going forward towards the mark
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    of the high calling in Christ Jesus."
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    Now I've not taken a poll, but there
    may have been a time when you said,
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    "Well, I'm supposed to come and
    film Hope Sabbath School today,
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    but I'd rather just relax
    and not do something."
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    When you hear these stories,
    what does it do for you?
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    It's encouraging, isn't it?
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    To see the miracles that are
    happening, and so we want to thank you
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    for writing to us wherever you are
    around the world at sshope@hopetv.org.
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    When you send that, we send it
    out to our media team as well,
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    so they can be encouraged.
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    We want to thank God for what
    He is doing in your life.
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    By the way, if you go to our website,
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    hopetv.org/hopess,
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    you can download the song,
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    the outline.
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    We've got sheet music for the song.
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    You can start a Hope Sabbath School group
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    in your area and sing the
    Scripture song with them.
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    In fact, we're going to sing it right now.
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    It's 3,000 years old;
    at least the words are.
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    My wife wrote a simple tune,
    but I love this promise,
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    "I would have lost heart," it says in
    Psalm 27:13,14, "unless I had believed
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    that I would see the goodness of
    the Lord in the land of the living.
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    Wait on the Lord; be of good courage,
    and He shall strengthen your heart."
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    Let's sing that beautiful
    promise together.
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    ♪ music ♪
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    (Derek) Let's pray together.
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    Lord God, we thank You that
    we can study Your Word today.
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    It is a lamp to our feet,
    a light to our path.
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    As we talk about intimations
    of hope, glimmers of hope,
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    we pray that we might not only
    see hope but experience hope
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    even during the challenges of our lives,
    that we would have that living connection
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    with You that changes everything.
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    So bless in the study of
    Your Word today we pray,
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    each Hope Sabbath School member
    blessed, in the name of Jesus.
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    Amen.
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    (Team) Amen.
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    (Derek) Well, we're in the
    Book of Job, chapter 13,
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    and I'm always thinking
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    that people may join us
    for Hope Sabbath School,
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    and they haven't watched the
    first parts of this series.
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    You can watch it all; you can
    go to our website at hopetv.org
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    and watch all of the programs,
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    but let's just catch up
    on the story of Job,
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    and, Brittany, just a quick summary.
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    Here's a man,
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    tell us a little bit about
    him and what happens to him.
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    (Brittany) Sure, Job started out as a
    famous and wealthy man of the East,
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    and God even called him blameless.
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    He had multiple possessions, ten children,
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    and just was very blessed.
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    But then there was a heavenly
    council where the Devil accused God
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    of blessing him and that Job was only
    serving God because of the blessings.
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    So God says, "Well, I'll
    allow you to test him,"
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    and then everything that Job owned
    was taken away, even his children.
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    All ten of them died in one day.
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    And after that experience,
    then Job was covered in boils
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    from his head to his toes
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    and was in pain and anguish and wondering,
    "Why is all this happening to me?"
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    (Derek) So he's going through
    a terrible experience,
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    and then three friends show up,
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    meaning well, Nathan, right?
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    And do they help the situation at all?
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    (Nathan) I think at first they
    helped by their presence.
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    (Derek) Okay.
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    (Nathan) Seven days sitting
    in silence, mourning with Job,
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    empathizing with him.
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    But then when they begin to speak,
    it's quite clear that their wisdom
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    is not heavenly wisdom.
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    (Derek) What did they basically say?
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    (Nathan) They were basically
    saying, "Job, whatever you did
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    has brought this upon you.
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    You have done something wrong.
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    No one else knows about it because
    you look good on the outside,
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    but God's punishing you
    for what you've done."
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    (Derek) And remember that
    startling comment of Zophar?
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    What did he say?
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    (Nathan) "You deserve worse than this."
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    (Derek) "You deserve worse than
    this, if the truth were known."
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    And that's speaking to a man that
    the Lord Himself called what?
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    (Team) Blameless and upright.
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    (Derek) Blameless and upright!
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    So Job is confused; he doesn't understand.
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    We're going to Job chapter 13 now,
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    and Puia, if you'd begin our study
    today with the first four verses.
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    I'd like you to tell us after he speaks,
    before we talk about his comments,
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    what do you think he's
    experiencing on the inside now?
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    He's kind of going through a
    very difficult time, Job 13:1-4.
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    (Puia) I'll be reading from
    the New King James Version:
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    (Derek) Okay,
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    Well, at first he said the Lord
    gives, the Lord takes away;
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    blessed be the name of the Lord.
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    Someone said in our study, he's
    holding onto the promise, though maybe
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    a little bit in denial about everything
    that's really happened to him.
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    Nathan, where do you see him here?
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    Whew, that's pretty strong
    language here, isn't it?
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    (Nathan) Yeah, and I
    was just thinking that
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    we can't miss what he said in verse two.
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    (Derek) Okay.
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    (Nathan) When he says, "What you know,
    I also know; I am not inferior to you."
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    Sometimes, meaning well, we
    can speak down to people,
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    make them feel inferior or like, "I
    really have greater spiritual insight
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    than you do; let me help
    you straighten out here."
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    (Derek) Okay.
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    (Nathan) That's really not helpful.
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    And we have to be careful that
    we don't condescend to people.
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    (Derek) Condescending, like we're
    looking down, treating them as inferior.
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    They had good intentions, right?
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    We know that from the beginning; they
    sat for a whole week with him, right?
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    But there's something there that's wrong.
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    How would you describe what's
    happening on the inside?
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    Anybody?
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    What emotions are going
    on there, do you think?
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    Jason?
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    (Jason) He sounds angry.
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    (Derek) He sounds angry about their
    attitude; in fact, doesn't he call them
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    worthless physicians?
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    "Forgers of lies."
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    He's angry.
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    (Nathan) He also seem to be helpless.
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    He wants to speak to God; he
    wants to reason with God.
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    He's like, "Here I am; I'm a helpless
    victim, and I can't even speak my case."
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    (Derek) Okay.
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    (Nathan) Or present my case.
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    (Derek) Is he just angry?
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    Is there anything else going
    on here, do you think?
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    Defensive a little bit, like
    wanting to present his case.
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    He certainly wants to speak to God.
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    (Joshua) But he's depressed as well.
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    (Derek) You think he's depressed as well.
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    He's not in denial about
    what's happened, right?
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    So, the good news is that God loves him!
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    But he's struggling with why these
    things are happening to him.
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    So let me ask a question.
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    Sometimes when people are hurting,
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    especially if we're not that helpful,
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    but even if we are helpful,
    they can kind of lash out at us
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    because they're hurting so much, you know?
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    "Let me help you with that bandage,"
    you know, and they're like, "Aah!"
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    Does that make sense to you?
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    Have you ever met people like that?
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    The're hurting so much they don't
    want you to get near to them.
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    So how do we show God's love to
    someone who's at that level of pain?
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    What do you think?
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    What can we do for them?
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    Jonathan.
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    (Jonathan) I think it's helpful
    to try to take time to understand
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    where someone's reactions
    are coming from.
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    From personal experience, I've been in
    situations where I haven't been able
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    to act in quite the way that I wanted to,
    and some people are able to understand
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    that and give me grace, and others
    don't quite understand that.
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    (Derek) So kind of thinking, you
    know, there's a saying in America
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    about walking in someone
    else's shoes, right?
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    In other words, take some time,
    probably before I open my mouth, right?
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    Anybody else?
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    Someone's really hurting.
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    He's pretty angry here.
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    How would you approach someone
    with that level of anger, Puia?
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    (Puia) I think it's important for us,
    first of all, to ask God to give us
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    heavenly wisdom in how to approach them.
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    I think that would be the first step.
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    (Derek) What would be my human reaction,
    if I didn't pray and think about it,
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    when someone was kind of
    lashing out like that?
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    (Nathan) You'd take it personally
    and think they're angry at you.
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    (Derek) Okay, I could take it personally.
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    What else might I do?
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    (Team Member) You'd want to stay away.
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    (Derek) Stay away, that's right, "I'm
    just going to leave you," you know?
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    "You can take care of it by yourself."
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    (Nathan) Or even worse,
    you might strike back.
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    (Derek) Or you might try to strike back.
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    And none of those is helpful; withdrawing,
    just to protect myself is not helpful;
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    striking back is not helpful.
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    So I've got to pray, "Lord, show me here."
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    But let me understand, like Jonathan
    said, what the person's going through,
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    so I don't come to kind
    of careless conclusions.
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    Stephanie.
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    (Stephanie) And if you're the one that has
    caused them to be somewhat defensive,
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    maybe that's where you
    could be quiet, you know?
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    "Lord, I've said something; help
    me to be more understanding
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    of where they're coming from."
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    (Derek) Okay, so let's keep reading in
    Job chapter 13, verses 5 through 12,
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    and Timoetel, if you'd keep
    reading for us in Job 13:5-12,
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    and let's see what part of his
    comments makes sense to you.
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    Job's struggling, too, so I'm
    not saying everything's perfect,
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    but what about his response
    to his friends makes sense?
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    (Timoetel) Job 13, verses 5 to 12,
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    and I'll be reading from
    the New King James Version:
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    (Derek) Was he speaking any truth there?
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    (Team) Yes.
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    (Derek) If you read the end
    of the book, what happens?
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    (Timoetel) God rebukes them.
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    (Derek) God rebukes them; He says,
    "You have not said what is right
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    about my servant Job."
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    So, that part, that
    makes sense, doesn't it?
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    In fact go back to verse
    5, better to do what?
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    (Derek, Team) Be quiet.
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    (Derek) And if they're saying,
    "Why is this happening?"
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    It would be better to say, "I don't know.
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    I don't have an answer."
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    (Nathan) This is an indication,
    too, of the unity of Scripture.
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    Job is speaking under inspiration, or
    this is recorded under inspiration here
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    where he says, "It would be better to be
    silent, and that would be your wisdom."
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    And in Proverbs 17:28, it basically
    says that even a fool seems wise
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    when they keep their mouth shut.
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    (Derek) Right, and back to the
    comment you made earlier, in Job 2
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    where the friends come and they're
    simply silent and grieving,
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    that probably was some comfort
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    until they started speaking.
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    So they brought three friends together,
    apparently from different territories.
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    They were very earnest
    in wanting to help him.
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    But again, how do I respond
    to someone who's defensive?
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    Let's try to understand
    them, walk in their shoes.
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    Can you share a time
    when you realize that?
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    Maybe a friend was hurting, and
    you realize the best thing was
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    just to be silent and
    present with her or him?
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    Or a time when you were hurting,
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    and you really appreciated someone
    just kind of came to be with you
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    without trying to give you a bunch of -
    what do we call those - kind of canned
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    or platitudes, canned answers.
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    Anybody have an experience
    where that happened for you?
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    Joshua?
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    (Joshua) Yeah, there was a time when
    I experienced a death in the family,
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    and someone came by my home
    and gave me a box of pizza.
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    And, you know, I just ate
    that delicious box of pizza.
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    They didn't
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    want to ask me a ton of questions
    about what's going on in my life,
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    and I preferred that because I
    didn't want to talk about it,
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    but them just bringing the food to me
    helped me a lot; I really appreciated it.
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    (Derek) Does that remind you of a story in
    Scripture, that wasn't pizza by the way,
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    but does it remind you of
    a story in the Scripture
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    where a person was going through a
    very hard time, and someone just said,
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    "Here's some food"?
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    Anybody remember that story?
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    "Here's some food..."
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    (Team Member) I remember Elijah.
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    (Derek) Elijah, that's right, Elijah.
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    And it was actually an angel, it
    wasn't a pizza delivery person, right?
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    An angel brought the food,
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    but no big description of what
    you should be feeling but just
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    knowing you're going to need some food
    and some rest, "Here's something to eat."
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    All right, anybody else, Puia?
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    (Puia) Well, in my culture,
    in the Mizo culture,
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    we have a very strong community support
    whenever people lose their family members,
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    so what we would do as a community
    is visit that family's house
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    and just hang out with them, just
    comfort them without really needing
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    to talk everything about the person
    that they just lost but just being there,
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    just being there and being a support.
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    It's such an important part of healing.
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    (Derek) Someone's probably going
    to write an email and say,
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    "Where is the Mizo culture?"
    and that's north...
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    (Puia) It's on the border
    of India and Burma.
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    (Derek) India and Burma, okay.
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    And there, there's part of the culture
    of just coming and being present
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    in order to bring some comfort.
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    Thanks for sharing that.
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    Well, having kind of vented...
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    You know what the word "vent"
    means, to kind of let it out, right?
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    You know, "I'm not really happy
    with the counsel you're giving,
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    and I'm not really understanding
    everything about God,"
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    but he speaks some words of hope now.
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    These are glimpses of hope, right?
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    Naiara, if you could read for
    us Job 13, verses 15 and 16.
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    (Naiara) Sure, I'll be reading
    from the King James Version,
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    Job 13, verses 15 to 16:
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    (Derek) He's saying what?
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    "I believe I know my heart,
    and my heart is..."?
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    Yeah, "My heart is sincere."
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    Now he's confessed his
    sins; we'll talk about that.
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    He believes that, because of the mercy
    of God, he's standing how before God?
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    Blameless, and by the way, was he right?
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    (Team) Yes.
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    (Derek) Yeah, God called
    him blameless, right?
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    So he's saying, "I'm going to
    trust my relationship with God."
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    How does his relationship with God
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    say, "I know the character of God,
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    and I'm going to keep holding on
    even though I don't understand,"
  • 22:52 - 22:54
    because he still doesn't
    understand what's happening.
  • 22:54 - 23:01
    How does his awareness of the character
    of God plus his connection with God
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    give him courage to hold on even
    though he doesn't understand?
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    Anybody?
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    (Tricia Lee) We can imagine he must be
    so just worn out and physically tired,
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    emotionally tired, and he has three of
    his friends telling him all these things,
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    and in all of that, instead of
    just saying, "You know what,
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    you guys must be right; if three people
    are telling me the same thing, it's true."
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    (Derek) Three against one.
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    (Tricia Lee) Three against one,
    he's literally getting beaten up.
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    His wife is not even in his
    corner necessarily, giving him
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    the right advice either, and he can still
    through that all say, "You are lying!"
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    It's like that knowledge of who God
    is was just so strong he could say,
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    "Here are my friends, and you're all
    agreeing with each other, but no!
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    Those are lies; you're forgers of lies;
    you're not really helping me right now."
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    I think that's powerful because
    when you're at your wits end,
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    you're looking for an answer.
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    He was looking for answers.
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    And sometimes we can say, "Oh,
    well these people came to me.
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    Maybe God sent them to me to tell me
    this," but he knew enough about God
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    to know, "God would not send you
    to me to tell me these things.
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    This really isn't true; I just want to
    talk to Him; I just want to hear from Him
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    and understand why this is happening."
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    (Derek) There's a text of Scripture, I'm
    going to have us read, and I want us
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    to continue, that speaks about
    not what we see giving us hope,
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    but our connection with
    God giving us hope.
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    And it's a Scripture song my wife
    wrote to help me remember it,
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    from Lamentations 3.
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    You might say, "Can any good
    thing come out of Lamentations?"
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    What does the word "lamentations" mean?
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    To grieve, right, to lament,
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    and it's after the
    destruction of Jerusalem,
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    and the prophet Jeremiah.
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    Brittany, if you'd read that for us in
    Lamentations 3, verses 22 through 26.
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    (Brittany) I'll be reading from
    the New King James Version,
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    Lamentations 3:22-26:
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    (Derek) Wait quietly, that
    reminds us of our song,
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    which was written, what,
    400 and some years earlier
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    by the psalmist, "Wait on the
    Lord; be of good courage."
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    He's writing this lamentation;
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    what's going on around Jeremiah?
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    When he says, "Through the Lord's
    mercies we are not consumed;
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    His compassions fail not."
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    What's going on around him, Jonathan?
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    (Jonathan) The whole city is being
    destroyed or is about to be or...
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    (Derek) Well, "Lamentations,"
    I think it's over;
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    it's been destroyed,
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    captivity has happened...I mean,
    everything is falling apart.
  • 25:57 - 25:59
    And what could he be saying?
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    What could he be saying?
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    "My hope is lost.
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    Where are you, God?"
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    Or, "What did they do?"
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    And instead what's he choosing to do?
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    (Team Member) Wait on the Lord.
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    (Derek) Yeah, he's choosing to wait
    on the Lord, to trust in the Lord,
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    to look to the Lord.
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    Tricia Lee.
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    (Tricia Lee) I think what's interesting
    is that these three friends show up
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    at this particular time in his life,
    when Job has been walking with God
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    for many years, I would imagine before
    that, and he has an established
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    relationship with God that won't
    be wavered by these friends coming
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    and telling him things.
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    I think sometimes - and that's probably
    contributing to why he's so upset -
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    it's just like, "You don't
    even know my walk with God.
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    Where were you, coming to visit me when
    I was praying for forgiveness every
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    morning for my sons and daughters, but
    you show up at this particular time.
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    Granted, I'm happy you came, but you're
    not really saying anything that's helpful
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    to me right now."
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    And I think that when we hear these
    encouraging words from Jeremiah
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    and from Job, it's just that they have
    established a walk and a relationship
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    with God that cannot be swayed by what
    they see or what they hear from their
  • 27:06 - 27:07
    so-called comforters...
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    (Derek) Or what's happening to them.
  • 27:08 - 27:09
    (Tricia Lee) Or what's happening to them.
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    (Derek) Yeah, Naiara.
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    (Naiara) It just amazes me that also
    he knew himself because he was so low
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    to a point that anything that somebody
    can tell you, you may be just like, "Okay,
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    yes, you're right; it's my fault," but,
    yes, he knew God, he acquainted himself
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    with God, if we go read in Proverbs
    22, but also he knew himself.
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    He knew himself so much,
    he said, "Wait a minute.
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    I know who I am; I know what I have
    been doing, so you are wrong."
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    (Derek) I want to unpack the
    "acquaint yourself with God"
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    because it seems to me, when you're
    going through difficult times,
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    a clear picture of the character
    of God is crucially important.
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    (Team) Yes.
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    (Derek) In fact, we need to
    acquaint ourselves with God
  • 27:51 - 27:56
    before those hard times come because
    then we need to be holding on
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    through the dark valley, right?
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    So how do we get a true picture
    of the character of God?
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    How do we get to know Him in
    a living connection, Marianela?
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    (Marianela) I think through those hard
    moments, and even if they're small trials,
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    and you let God lead you
    and ask for the Holy Spirit;
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    He will guide you through that.
  • 28:21 - 28:28
    And in those small moments when a
    big trial comes, you realize that,
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    "Wow, God is different.
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    My relationship with Him was
    different in these small moments,
  • 28:33 - 28:38
    and now He's going to provide," and
    I see how Job was able to defend God
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    to his friends.
  • 28:40 - 28:42
    (Derek) Defend the character...
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    (Marianela) Defend the character of God.
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    (Derek) Now you said something really
    important, which I want to just restate,
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    and that is that we trust
    Him in the little challenges
  • 28:49 - 28:54
    so that in the big challenges,
    you know, we've learned.
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    We've learned He's dependable.
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    When else, how else, Nathan, do we
    learn about the real character of God
  • 29:05 - 29:09
    so that when we don't understand we say,
    "Well I may not see the path, but I trust
  • 29:09 - 29:13
    the God I've chosen to know and love"?
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    (Nathan) Okay, I was going to
    share something else, but I think
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    the clearest picture of the character of
    God is revealed in the life of Jesus.
  • 29:17 - 29:21
    We look there, and we see Jesus saying,
    "If you've seen Me, you've seen
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    the Father," and I say, "Wow, I want to
    be in a connection with that kind of a God
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    because look at how awesome Jesus is."
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    Look at the constant love and
    acceptance that He showed to everyone.
  • 29:32 - 29:36
    But I was going to point out that in verse
    15 when Job said, "Though He slay me,
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    yet will I trust Him," that
    Job sets an example for me.
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    When I've been in really difficult times,
    and I've had my share, and there's times
  • 29:45 - 29:49
    when things have happened unfairly or
    whatever, you know, it's very easy to say,
  • 29:49 - 29:52
    "God, I'm mad at You," or "Why did You
    allow this?" and I've been there, too,
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    but Job makes a decision.
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    By an act of his will, he
    says, "I will trust Him.
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    I don't understand it; it doesn't
    make sense, even if He slays me."
  • 30:04 - 30:07
    "I'm at the point of death,"
    is kind of how he's feeling.
  • 30:07 - 30:13
    "I'm suffering from the top of
    my head to the soles of my feet,
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    and I've lost everything.
  • 30:14 - 30:17
    I'm suffering emotionally; I'm suffering
    mentally; I'm suffering physically.
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    I'm hurting spiritually because I'm
    all messed up in trying to understand
  • 30:20 - 30:22
    what God's doing," and yet he
    says, "I'm going to trust Him."
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    So I see in that the power of a
    decision and the power of our words
  • 30:28 - 30:30
    and our self-talk.
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    And so, what I've taken from that, in
    my experience, there have been times
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    when I say, "Okay, God, I don't
    get it, but I know You love me.
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    I know that Jesus died
    for me; He's my Savior.
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    I know You want to spend eternity
    with me, so I'm trusting You."
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    And it's the hardest thing to do when
    everything seems like, "He's not even
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    blessing you; He doesn't love
    me," but I say, "I know You do."
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    So I think for me an act of faith is
    speaking the words that we know are true
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    even when it doesn't
    seem to be true for us.
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    (Derek) Speaking the words that we know
    are true, that have come out of that
  • 31:04 - 31:08
    relationship with God, right?
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    What we know.
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    Puia?
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    (Puia) Yes, I think it's important for us
    to look back on the past and see where
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    God has led us, you know?
  • 31:13 - 31:17
    Or what we like to call mountaintop
    experiences where God has shown us...
  • 31:17 - 31:20
    (Derek) Maybe even valley
    experiences, right?
  • 31:20 - 31:22
    (Puia) ...and see how God
    has led us through them.
  • 31:22 - 31:27
    I think by looking back over how God has
    guided us, that can really give us hope
  • 31:27 - 31:31
    that God will still bring us through
    this current situation that we are in.
  • 31:31 - 31:33
    I believe that's what
    Job is doing, you know?
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    Holding onto God and reminding
    himself what God has done for him.
  • 31:37 - 31:43
    (Derek) So we're talking about how
    we can experience hope in the midst
  • 31:43 - 31:47
    of difficult times and how our
    understanding of the character of God
  • 31:47 - 31:49
    is really important.
  • 31:49 - 31:55
    Did anyone grow up with that kind of
    false notion that the three friends
  • 31:55 - 31:58
    are sharing, "Well, if
    something's happening to you,
  • 31:58 - 32:01
    God obviously is judging you"?
  • 32:01 - 32:03
    Did anybody grow up with that?
  • 32:03 - 32:05
    That's really kind of a stumbling block.
  • 32:05 - 32:06
    Anybody?
  • 32:06 - 32:07
    (Nathan) I did.
  • 32:07 - 32:08
    (Derek) Yes, Nathan?
  • 32:08 - 32:11
    That was just your picture
    of God growing up.
  • 32:11 - 32:15
    (Nathan) Yeah, good people are
    blessed, and bad people are cursed.
  • 32:15 - 32:15
    (Derek) Okay.
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    (Nathan) A common understanding
    that I grew up with, that God is
  • 32:19 - 32:24
    kind of looking over you and watching,
    and you're going to get what you deserve.
  • 32:24 - 32:27
    (Derek) You know, I think a lot
    of us grew up with the idea
  • 32:27 - 32:33
    that God is more interested in
    catching you misbehaving than He is
  • 32:33 - 32:36
    in rescuing you from hurting yourself.
  • 32:36 - 32:40
    A different picture of the
    character of God, Tricia Lee.
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    (Tricia Lee) The opposite is also equally
    as damaging, the idea that if you're
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    blessed that you must be right with God,
    and so if things are going well in my life
  • 32:47 - 32:50
    I don't need Him; I'm
    probably being favored.
  • 32:50 - 32:54
    So you start to slip and let go of
    God because you think, you know,
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    instead of thinking about the
    responsibility you have you think, "Oh,
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    I must be okay, so I don't have to do
    as much to maintain that relationship
  • 33:00 - 33:03
    with him," so both ends
    are very dangerous.
  • 33:03 - 33:08
    (Derek) I think it was the psalmist Asaph
    who said, "I don't understand why these
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    wicked people seem to be doing so well,
    but then I looked and saw the end,"
  • 33:14 - 33:17
    so you're saying that
    can be confusing, too.
  • 33:17 - 33:22
    The righteous are suffering, and sometimes
    it seems like the wicked are doing well,
  • 33:22 - 33:23
    right?
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    There was another hand raised, Missy.
  • 33:25 - 33:26
    Do you remember what...?
  • 33:26 - 33:29
    (Missy) It was just a personal
    experience, and I was going to let it go,
  • 33:29 - 33:32
    but since you just let me share...
  • 33:32 - 33:40
    For a long time, through highs and
    lows, I've had a connection with God
  • 33:40 - 33:43
    where I've really...I'm not trying
    to pat myself on the back...
  • 33:43 - 33:48
    It's just I have this relationship
    with God, and thank God I've had it
  • 33:48 - 33:54
    because there have been times that we
    have been tried and tried very hard,
  • 33:54 - 33:59
    and in those moments I remember calling
    out to God saying, "I don't think I have
  • 33:59 - 34:01
    the kind of faith You want me to have.
  • 34:01 - 34:05
    I'm just not Abraham, I'm not these big
    heroes of faith," you know, "I'm not
  • 34:05 - 34:09
    who You want me to be."
  • 34:09 - 34:18
    And I go to my Bible, reading it on
    my app, and this passage pops up,
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    Lamentations 3:22-26.
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    (Derek) The one that we just read.
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    (Missy) Yes, I mean, just randomly,
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    and I just felt God speaking to
    me in those moments, you know.
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    Give God the opportunity.
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    Don't let go for any reason whatsoever,
    and He will come to your rescue,
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    and I have felt rescued by God through
    His Word or through words of friends
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    time and again.
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    (Derek) And that's a great illustration,
    a sequel to where I'd like us to go now,
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    and that is some other texts
    of Scripture that give you hope
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    in the midst of a difficult journey
    and also some stories of Scripture
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    that illustrate hope.
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    So let's start with some texts
    of Scripture that give you hope
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    even on a difficult journey.
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    Marianela, did you have one or a story?
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    (Marianela) I have a story.
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    (Derek) Okay,
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    (Marianela) It's Moses when he was with
    God and, I can't remember which mountain
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    it was, but the people of Israel were just
    not following God's commands; they were
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    being rebellious, and God says,
    "You know, I regret what I did.
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    I'm going to destroy them all," and
    Moses goes up to Him and says, "No,
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    You can't do that; You promised that the
    seed of Abraham was going to be blessed
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    from generation to generation."
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    And he cried out to God and said,
    "You can't do that because Your word,
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    You promised in Your Word."
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    I see that story as so powerful because
    sometimes we have to come to God
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    and say, "You promised, and You said
    in Your Word that You would bless
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    or You would take care of me; You would
    provide for me," even in those times
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    where we're feeling like
    we can't continue anymore.
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    (Derek) And by the way, he didn't
    change the heart of God, did he?
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    (Team) No.
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    (Derek) Because when God reveals
    Himself, He's abundant in mercy
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    and lovingkindness, right?
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    It's almost like a reverse psychology
    where the Lord says, "Well,
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    what do you think?"
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    And, "Well, I think you should do this,"
    as if He hadn't already known in His heart
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    how He wanted to treat His people.
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    But that illustration of God, we see
    God again with Abraham over Sodom
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    and Gomorrah, right?
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    Wanting to show compassion.
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    A text of Scripture or an insight?
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    (Tricia Lee) I have another story.
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    In another lesson, Stephanie was sharing
    that God can work all things for good.
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    I think about Joseph who, I mean, was
    betrayed by his own brothers, you know,
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    sold into slavery; he was a prisoner.
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    He seemed to have these rises and falls,
    but through it all God allowed that
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    situation of his life to be a
    blessing not only for his own family
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    but even for the entire nation of Egypt
    he was able to be in the right place
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    at the right time to give wisdom and
    counsel to save them all from a famine.
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    And it's just like, how many times are we
    in a place where we feel like we've been
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    betrayed, or we feel like we're in some
    sort of prison of life, and we see
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    no good coming from it, but the end, God
    can still use us and bless us and take us
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    out of that prison, from
    the pit to the palace.
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    (Derek) So that gives you hope.
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    (Tricia Lee) It gives me hope.
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    (Derek) You know, I'm thinking
    about Joseph just for a minute.
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    You might say, "Well, he brought some
    of the sibling rivalry upon himself,"
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    and that's kind of why he
    got thrown in the pit.
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    Maybe he deserved that a little bit.
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    Some people could argue that, but
    when you to Potiphar's wife where he's
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    determining to honor God even though
    Potiphar's wife is trying to seduce him,
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    I mean, there is no way - this
    is unjust treatment, you know?
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    We'd file a law suit today,
    wouldn't we, for sexual harassment?
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    So whether sometimes we contribute to
    the problem or other times we're just
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    totally innocent, we need
    hope in the midst of that.
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    And the hope you see there was...?
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    (Tricia Lee) That God can use that
    tribulation and bring a blessing
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    in your life and in others around you.
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    (Derek) All right.
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    Another text or a story, Joshua.
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    (Joshua) I think about Daniel and the
    Hebrew boys, but more so the story
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    of Daniel, and here's the reason why.
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    Daniel took a stand for God, and
    although he was being persecuted
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    because of his stand, he didn't have
    anyone else supporting him concerning
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    the story of him being in the Lion's den.
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    (Derek) You're in Daniel chapter 6
    where he's basically commanded that he
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    cannot pray to anyone except the king?
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    (Joshua) Yes, and the reason why I
    appreciate the story so much is that,
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    in my life it seems that every time I'm
    taking a stand for God, there's no one
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    by my side taking a stand with me.
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    So I always feel alone in the matter.
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    When I look at Hananiah, Mishael,
    and Azariah, they had each other.
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    They could stand there and say, you know,
    "We're brothers; we serve the Lord,"
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    but I constantly find myself in situations
    where it's just me, and I'm by myself.
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    I think about Daniel just being in
    that lion's den, and, I mean, wow!
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    There's nobody else he's looking to around
    him like, "Okay, you run from that lion;
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    I'll run from this lion."
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    I just think about it, and I say how much
    more strength he had coming from God
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    because he had no one else to look to.
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    (Derek) I think he knew there were some
    other people there in the lion's den
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    because the Lord sent His angel, he said,
    and shut the lion's mouth, but, yeah.
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    By the way, let's talk about that,
    too, because that's a great story.
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    Should we intentionally seek to surround
    ourselves with other people of faith,
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    Nathan, that could be a support to
    us when we're feeling discouraged?
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    (Nathan) Yeah, I was thinking as Joshua
    was sharing that Daniel's friends
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    must have been praying for him at least,
    and even in the opening chapter of Daniel,
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    we see that they're united together, and
    then in chapter 2 where Daniel is seeking
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    time from the king to answer his concern,
    Daniel goes to his friends; he says,
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    "Pray with me," you know?
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    So we do need to surround ourselves with
    friends who can pray for us and lift us up
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    and have the same faith.
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    (Derek) We're talking here from Job's
    experience about choosing to find hope.
  • 40:20 - 40:23
    You said, "I choose to trust God," right?
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    Choosing to find hope
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    because I know the character of God
    and have a relationship with Him
  • 40:28 - 40:31
    in the midst of suffering
    that I may not understand.
  • 40:31 - 40:32
    Jason.
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    (Jason) I think of the story of Esther,
    where her life and the lives of her people
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    were on the line, and she
    had to go before the king.
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    But before she went before the king,
    she had all the people praying for her.
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    She had good counsel from her
    cousin Mordecai, and so she was
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    preparing ahead of time, sort of
    in a way like Daniel may have been.
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    (Derek) Okay, and of course there,
    when she actually is about to go in,
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    what does she ask her friends to do?
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    (Team) Fast and pray.
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    (Derek) Fast and pray, right?
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    We've been hearing that
    over and over again,
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    before I open my mouth in a troubled
    situation, with her she's speaking
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    to the king, but wherever we are,
    let's pray and maybe ask some of our
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    godly friends to pray for us, too, right?
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    Yes, Puia.
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    (Puia) I appreciate Tricia Lee bringing
    up Joseph, because I believe, you know,
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    Joseph's story is such a huge inspiration
    for especially young people today
  • 41:30 - 41:31
    I would say.
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    All generations but especially today we're bombarded with media every single day,
  • 41:34 - 41:38
    and Joseph's story reminds us of how
    important it is to stay faithful to God,
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    to stay pure, you know?
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    The enemy wants us to think that we are
    missing out once we choose to be faithful
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    to God, but the truth is the opposite.
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    When we choose to be faithful for God,
    Joseph's story reminds us once again
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    that we're not missing out on anything.
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    We're not missing out at all; the end,
    the reward, is much, much greater.
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    (Derek) Stephanie, I'm going to
    come to you next, but how do we...
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    We have these stories popping up, and it's
    interesting; I asked you text or stories,
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    and you're all giving me stories,
    which tells me that stories are easy
  • 42:11 - 42:12
    to remember, right?
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    So there's a lot of people, they don't
    know any of the stories of the Bible,
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    how do we get to know these stories
    that then the Holy Spirit can bring them
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    to our remembrance.
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    Think about that after
    Stephanie's comment.
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    (Stephanie) Actually I have two verses.
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    (Derek) Oh, you do?! Okay.
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    Well hold the verses just a second then.
  • 42:30 - 42:32
    How do we get to know the stories?
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    What's the answer?
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    (Team) Read them.
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    (Derek) You know, someone told me one
    time, "I think I need to get a children's
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    Bible story book and just read these Bible
    stories and get to know them, so that
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    when I'm reading in the Bible and Joseph -
    Oh, I know the story of Joseph in Egypt."
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    That's not a bad idea
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    to just get to know the
    great stories of the Bible.
  • 42:52 - 42:56
    Yes, you want to respond to that, and
    then I want to go to the Bible texts.
  • 42:56 - 43:00
    (Nathan) I was going to say, I came
    into the faith late, and I felt like,
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    "Boy, little kids know the stories
    that I don't know in the Bible."
  • 43:03 - 43:07
    So, not only know the stories but then
    to contemplate and think about them
  • 43:07 - 43:09
    because we can read them, but
    every time I hear the stories...
  • 43:10 - 43:13
    Sometimes when I'm driving, I just
    immerse myself in God's Word by playing
  • 43:13 - 43:16
    an audio Bible, and new
    insights come every time.
  • 43:16 - 43:19
    I'm asking God, "Show me," and even
    as you were talking about Joseph,
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    I was thinking, yeah, Joshua was making
    the point there are times when we're
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    all alone; Joseph really
    was alone; he had nobody.
  • 43:25 - 43:29
    And I was thinking, even his family, his
    father thought he was dead, so it wasn't
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    like his father was praying, but then I
    thought, you know, maybe his brothers.
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    They were living with that lie, and they
    knew he was alive, but they thought he was
  • 43:37 - 43:38
    sold into slavery.
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    I wonder if any of them ever prayed for
    him because they were feeling God's burden
  • 43:41 - 43:44
    on their heart, and they were praying,
    "Lord, wherever Joseph is, I hope that
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    you're blessing him."
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    (Derek) Yes.
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    (Nathan) So maybe he wasn't completely
    alone in that regard, but we know that
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    God was with him, and we read those
    very words, "God was with him."
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    I'm thinking of Puia's comment that the
    mountaintops can help us get through,
  • 43:56 - 43:57
    and you mentioned and the valleys, too.
  • 43:57 - 44:01
    There is a quote by Billy Graham
    that's meaningful to me, and he said,
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    "Mountaintops are for views and
    inspiration, but the fruit is grown
  • 44:05 - 44:10
    in the valley," and that's in those
    deep, dark times in our lives when God is
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    growing fruit in our lives,
    I believe, spiritual fruit.
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    (Derek) Because we know Him,
    and we refuse to let go.
  • 44:16 - 44:19
    But again, lest we think, "Oh, wow,
    this is really important; I think I'm
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    going to...," underneath us are the arms
    of a loving God because, like you said,
  • 44:24 - 44:28
    Missy, in another discussion,
    we've made the choice, right?
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    Confess our sins, ask Him to
    cleanse us, accept His salvation.
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    We're going to hold on, and that's going
    to take us to some texts, Stephanie.
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    I know you know the Bible well; which
    ones come to your mind that give us hope
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    sometimes when we don't understand, but
    we're trusting the character of God?
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    (Stephanie) Two verses, they're short
    verses, but I like to couple them
  • 44:47 - 44:50
    together, and the first
    one is in Luke 1:37.
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    (Derek) Let's go there first then.
  • 44:52 - 44:55
    (Stephanie) And then the
    second one is Job 26, verse 7.
  • 44:55 - 44:59
    (Derek) Okay, let's find
    Luke 1; did you say Luke 1?
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    (Stephanie) Luke 1:37 and then Job 26:7.
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    (Derek) You'll have to remind us of
    the second one when we get there.
  • 45:04 - 45:05
    (Stephanie) Okay.
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    (Derek) Let's go to Luke 1:37 first.
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    (Stephanie) I'll be reading from
    the New King James Version:
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    (Derek) Context?
  • 45:19 - 45:22
    Who's speaking and to whom
    is the person speaking?
  • 45:22 - 45:24
    Answer, anybody?
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    Who's speaking?
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    (Team) An angel.
  • 45:27 - 45:28
    (Derek) An angel, right.
  • 45:28 - 45:29
    And speaking to?
  • 45:29 - 45:30
    (Team) Mary.
  • 45:30 - 45:32
    (Derek) Yup, "For with God..."?
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    (Derek, Team) "Nothing
    will be impossible."
  • 45:34 - 45:35
    (Derek) Okay.
  • 45:35 - 45:37
    (Nathan) It was the angel Gabriel.
  • 45:37 - 45:39
    (Derek) All right, that's the
    leading, archangel, right?
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    Gabriel.
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    He's speaking the truth.
  • 45:43 - 45:46
    By the way, if what we've studied
    in Scripture is true, at one point,
  • 45:46 - 45:49
    Satan, once called Lucifer,
    was a covering angel.
  • 45:49 - 45:53
    So one's speaking lies
    and now in rebellion,
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    and one is sent by God
    to speak the truth, amen?
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    (Team) Amen.
  • 45:57 - 45:59
    (Derek) But "with God nothing will
    be impossible," and the other verse?
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    (Stephanie) The second
    one is in Job 26, verse 7.
  • 46:02 - 46:04
    (Derek) Job 26.
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    (Stephanie) Verse 7, and this is
    Job talking about God at creation.
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    (Derek) Okay, just give
    us a moment to find that.
  • 46:12 - 46:14
    Job 26...?
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    (Stephanie) Verse 7.
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    (Derek) And verse 7.
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    (Stephanie) And it says in
    the New King James Version:
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    And I feel like this is backing
    up that God can do anything.
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    He can take something out of absolutely
    nothing and then hang it on nothing.
  • 46:37 - 46:44
    So when I read the verse that nothing
    is impossible with God, I believe it
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    because He can do anything.
  • 46:46 - 46:52
    And even if I can't see the good that's
    going to come out of it, I have to trust
  • 46:52 - 46:56
    that if He can do that, He can take
    care of my little issue in life.
  • 46:56 - 46:59
    (Derek) Yeah, I know my
    Redeemers lives, right?
  • 46:59 - 47:03
    Another Bible text, anyone,
    that can give us hope,
  • 47:03 - 47:07
    and, you know, maybe one the Holy Spirit
    just brings to your remembrance now.
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    Yes, Tricia Lee.
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    (Tricia Lee) I like 1 Corinthians
    chapter 10 and verse 13.
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    (Derek) Okay, someone's watching
    Hope Sabbath School today,
  • 47:16 - 47:21
    and this verse is going to become an
    anchor for her, an anchor for him,
  • 47:21 - 47:25
    as we talk about choosing to trust
    a God we've come to know and love
  • 47:25 - 47:28
    even when we don't understand
    because things are hard.
  • 47:28 - 47:30
    1 Corinthians 10:13?
  • 47:30 - 47:32
    (Tricia Lee) I'm reading from
    the New King James Version:
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    (Derek) Now we have an
    advantage that Job did not have.
  • 47:54 - 47:55
    What is our advantage?
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    (Team) Scripture.
  • 47:56 - 47:59
    (Derek) That's right, we have
    these texts that we're reading,
  • 47:59 - 48:03
    given, according to Peter,
    under inspiration of God, right?
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    This one given by the apostle Paul.
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    So we have the advantage
    that we can go to that.
  • 48:09 - 48:11
    What did Job have?
  • 48:11 - 48:13
    What did he have, anybody?
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    He had his experience with God.
  • 48:16 - 48:17
    What else did he have?
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    (Marianela) He chose to make a
    commitment with God.
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    (Derek) Yeah, he has made a commitment,
    but in terms of knowing about God,
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    what else did he have?
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    (Team Member) He had a
    relationship with God.
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    (Nathan) Passed-on knowledge.
  • 48:27 - 48:30
    (Derek) He had passed-on knowledge that
    was passed down through the patriarchs.
  • 48:30 - 48:32
    (Nathan) The promise of the Redeemer.
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    (Derek) The promise of a Redeemer coming
    because he speaks about the Redeemer,
  • 48:35 - 48:36
    but what else did he have?
  • 48:36 - 48:38
    (Puia) General revelation through nature.
  • 48:38 - 48:41
    (Derek) That's right; he had the
    general revelation through nature
  • 48:41 - 48:45
    where he speaks about, "I think God
    can hang something on nothing," right?
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    He can speak worlds into
    existence, so he has nature.
  • 48:53 - 48:57
    In other words, he's taking everything
    that's available to him, and he's saying,
  • 48:57 - 48:59
    "I choose to trust that God."
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    (Tricia Lee) I just wanted to make a
    comment about that Scripture I read.
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    I think what's most encouraging about
    it is not the fact that, yes, it's
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    encouraging that God can make a way of
    escape, but I love where it says that God
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    is faithful, and it's like even if we
    have our questions or doubts, or we're
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    struggling, and we don't know what the
    answers are, even if we are doubting
  • 49:17 - 49:21
    and we are struggling with our own faith,
    God is faithful, and He is those arms
  • 49:21 - 49:23
    that is carrying us.
  • 49:23 - 49:26
    That gives me encouragement that, even
    if I'm failing miserably, I can trust
  • 49:27 - 49:29
    in a God who's faithful and can
    carry me through something.
  • 49:29 - 49:32
    It doesn't depend upon how
    strong I am in the moment.
  • 49:32 - 49:35
    I could be the weakest Christian ever,
    but because of God's faithfulness,
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    he can take me through it.
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    (Derek) And that's back to
    knowing the character of God.
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    Isn't there somewhere it says, "Even when
    we're unfaithful, He is faithful for He
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    cannot deny Himself"?
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    I love that.
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    All right, we've got 17 hands raised,
    so I'm going to work my way down.
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    Joshua.
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    (Joshua) Something I want to mention,
    going back to a comment that Nathan made.
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    Nathan, you mentioned that when you
    were older you were looking and saying,
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    "Oh, you know, these little children
    know stories that I'm only now learning."
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    And for any parent that may be out
    there, I want them to understand that
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    it's very important to teach your child
    how to really study the Word of God
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    for themselves and to build a
    relationship with God through them,
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    because growing up, what I saw is that
    we knew a lot of different Bible stories
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    simply because we were watching
    Bible cartoons, or simply because we
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    were watching a Bible movie or something,
    but it was not that we were studying
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    on our own and really trying to
    get to know God for ourselves.
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    (Derek) That relationship or connection.
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    (Joshua) Yes, those are two
    completely different things.
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    And when I became an adult, I saw that the
    adults that came to Jesus at an older age
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    were seeking Him because of
    the true essence of who He was,
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    not simply based on their
    culture that they grew up in.
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    Do you see what I mean?
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    (Derek) Right, right.
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    (Joshua) And so I think we should all
    strive to really know God for ourselves,
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    and we should teach our
    children to do the same.
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    (Derek) Going to come
    to the next sentence,
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    so it's not just about information...
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    (Joshua) Right.
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    (Derek) ...it's about relationship, right?
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    (Team) Amen.
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    (Derek) So when I hear the story of Daniel
    in the Lion's Den, I don't just know that
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    for a Bible quiz, but I say, "I want that
    relationship with God that Daniel had.
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    I want to trust Him even in the
    lion's den even in difficult times."
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    Marianela.
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    (Marianela) I admire Job so much after
    all this study because I see, like in,
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    if we go to chapter 31...
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    (Derek) You want to get ahead
    to the end of the story?
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    (Marianela) Yeah.
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    (Derek) You can do that, Job 31.
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    (Marianela) I just have such an admiration
    for what he says in these four verses.
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    Job 31, verses 1 through 4.
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    (Derek) It reminds me of a story
    where a little boy was so distressed,
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    and then a little later he was
    really happy, and his daddy said,
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    "What happened?"
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    He said, "I read the end of the
    book; it's going to be okay."
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    Sometimes we like to hear the end
    of the story, but you're in Job...?
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    (Marianela) 31.
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    (Derek) 31.
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    (Marianela) Verses 1 through 4.
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    (Derek) Verses 1 through 4.
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    (Marianela) I just want to admire him.
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    He didn't have all the verses
    that we have today to claim...
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    (Derek) To give us hope.
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    (Marianela) ...to give us hope, to
    let us know that God can do anything.
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    Anything is not impossible for God, you
    know, but he chose to make this covenant
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    with the Lord, and his commitment in
    his heart to fear Him, not out of just
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    fear or to be afraid of Him but to
    stand up boldly for God's promises
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    and God's commandments.
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    (Derek) Okay, read for us
    Job 31, verses 1 through 4.
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    And it makes me think of just how
    faithful he was even with his eyes,
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    with the purity inside of him, you know,
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    that, the admiration, what a
    character to follow, you know?
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    (Derek) It's kind of like, I guess
    there is comfort and hope in this,
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    "God, even when everyone else is
    misunderstanding me, You know my heart."
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    (Team) Yes, amen.
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    (Derek) Right?
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    "You know my heart, God," and you
    say, "Well, what if he had sinned?"
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    Well, "God, I confess my sin;
    I ask You to cleanse me.
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    You know my heart."
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    That's a beautiful thing.
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    "You count my steps; You know
    all things, but You know me."
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    We've got time for one more.
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    We've got several hands
    that are raised here.
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    Let me start with Nathan and go back to
    Puia, either a Bible text or a reflection.
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    The key lesson I'm learning in this
    study is that that relationship with God,
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    knowing Him and His character and having
    a connection with Him, will give me hope
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    even when I don't understand
    everything that's going on around me.
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    Nathan.
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    (Nathan) I love Paul's encouragement
    to the Philippian believers
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    in Philippians 1:6.
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    (Derek) Okay.
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    (Nathan) He writes his letter to the
    Philippian church, and he reminds them
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    of something that I need to remember, too.
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    I need to be reminded,
    you know, that God...
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    (Derek) Read it for us, if you would.
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    (Nathan) Philippians 1:6 from
    the New King James Version:
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    (Derek) So that reminds us of what Puia
    said, remembering how God has worked
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    in our lives to this point, and I'm going
    to choose to trust Him and hold on.
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    Puia.
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    (Puia) Yes, I would like to read this verse from 2 Corinthians chapter 4, verse 18.
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    (Derek) Okay, 2 Corinthians.
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    (Puia) 2 Corinthians chapter 4, verse 18.
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    (Derek) Chapter 4 and verse 18.
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    (Puia) Yes.
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    (Derek) Give us just a moment to find it.
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    This is giving you hope even when
    we're passing through a difficult time.
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    We're going to hold onto God.
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    How does it read in your Bible?
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    (Puia) I'll be reading from
    the New King James Version:
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    (Team) Amen.
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    (Puia) So when my faith is being tested,
    I hold onto the faith, that even though
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    I cannot see, I cannot
    understand everything right now,
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    I hold onto that faith that something
    is out there - God is out there.
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    I cannot see Him, but I know.
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    (Derek) So when is the best time?
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    We've talked about, Marianela, you
    said even in little trials I can learn
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    God is trustworthy so that when bigger
    trials come, I'm going to keep holding on
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    even when I don't understand, but when is
    the best time to develop that relationship
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    with God, knowing who He is, that
    gives us hope no matter what we face?
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    When's the best time, Stephanie?
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    (Stephanie) Preferably
    before the trials come.
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    (Derek) All right.
  • 56:05 - 56:08
    (Stephanie) But the trials sometimes
    are where people learn to trust God.
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    (Derek) All right, preferably before.
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    Anybody else, when's the best time?
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    (Team) Right now!
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    (Derek) Now, okay, right now.
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    I was hoping for one word
    rather than a long discussion.
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    The best time to get to know God, not
    just know about Him but know Him, is now.
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    (Team) Yes.
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    (Derek) And that's what
    we've learned in our study.
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    We'll trust Him and His character of love.
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    We're going to hold onto Him
    even through the dark valley.
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    That's a lesson that will guide our lives,
    but it's more than for us, isn't it?
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    Because there's so many people, "I don't
    understand; I don't know where to go,"
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    and there's a whisper, "Just
    curse God and give up."
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    No, no.
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    We know the God of
    hope can comfort us.
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    He is with us always, even
    to the end of the age.
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    We'll choose to hold onto Him.
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    Get to know Him today, know
    His character, trust Him today,
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    accept His salvation today,
  • 57:01 - 57:03
    accept His Spirit in your life today,
  • 57:03 - 57:07
    and know that whatever we
    face that we are not alone.
  • 57:07 - 57:08
    Let's pray.
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    Father in Heaven,
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    thank You for Your Word; it's so rich with
    illustrations to remind us of the truth
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    that You can be trusted, that nothing is
    impossible for You, that You will never
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    leave us or forsake us, that
    You are the God of all hope.
  • 57:27 - 57:32
    And I just pray that we trust You with all
    of our hearts today and that You would
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    give us a peace that the world cannot
    give as we find our rest in You.
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    We pray it in the name of Jesus.
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    Amen.
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    (Team) Amen.
  • 57:42 - 57:44
    (Derek) Well thanks for joining
    us for Hope Sabbath School today.
  • 57:44 - 57:47
    What a journey through the Book of Job.
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    I hope you'll stay with us because these
    lessons will not only bless our lives,
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    but there are people all around
    you, think about them just now,
  • 57:55 - 57:58
    who need to find hope for
    this life and for eternity.
  • 57:58 - 58:00
    So take what you've learned today,
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    go out and make a difference in
    the lives of those around you.
  • 58:03 - 58:29
    ♪ theme music ♪
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