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♪ theme music ♪

(Derek) Welcome to Hope Sabbath School,

an in-depth, interactive study

of the Word of God.

Have you ever felt hopeless

like you were going through a
dark time and couldn't see light

at the end of the tunnel?

Today on Hope Sabbath School,

we're going to be talking
about intimations of hope,

glimmers of hope even in a difficult time,

which will change our
hearts and give us courage.

I'm glad you joined us in our
study of the Book of Job.

And welcome to the team.

What a series this has been,

and we've been looking for hope all along.

We found it in a living
connection with God, right?

And here's Job who doesn't
even know about Jesus.

We have the advantage
of the full revelation

of the character of God in the
Person of Jesus our Savior,

but there is hope, even
in the challenging times,

and we're so thankful for that today.

And we're glad you've joined us for our
study wherever you are around the world.

We don't know how many countries are
represented, though the last statistics

I had on our Android app, 150 countries
were using the Android app, 137, I think,

using our IOS app, which is for
Apple devices, so lots of you.

We'd love to hear from you even
if you've written to us before.

Tell us how the Word of
God is blessing your life

and your sharing that with others.

You can write to us at [e-mail],

or you can put a note
on our Facebook page,

just go to our Hope Sabbath
School Facebook page

and leave a comment.

Here's a note from Zambia.

Chileshe writes from Zambia

and says, "Hi, Hope Sabbath School."

(Team) Hi.

(Derek) "Thanks for the amazing
Sabbath School discussions.

They are helping me grow
spiritually every week."

That's our prayer, isn't it?

"May God continue blessing
you as you help us."

Chileshe, and I must confess
I do not know, Chileshe,

if that's a man's name or a lady's name;

you'll have to send me another email,

but Chileshe attends the
University SDA Church in Lusaka.

So we're glad you wrote to us.

Here's a note from Samuel.

Thank you for writing,
Samuel, from Nigeria.

We have a lot of Hope Sabbath
School members in Nigeria.

"I'm from the 'Goody' Sabbath School Center in Nigeria.

We're just a family of three, but we enjoy
our Sabbath worship because on Fridays

we watch Hope Sabbath School.

It helps me to teach the class
in a very interesting way."

And Samuel says, "I'm a
high school teacher,"

so we are teaching teachers
to teach the Word.

Isn't that awesome?

(Team) Yes.

(Derek) "God bless the Sabbath
School in-depth teaching.

It's the reason why we
have an interesting class."

(Derek, Team) Amen.

Well we are exciting whenever we hear
from Hope Sabbath School members

who are becoming Hope
Sabbath School teachers.

And you can download the outline that
we write, that semi-structured outline,

interactive outline,
website: hopetv.org/hopess,

and you can click on the outline and
download it and use it in your own class.

Thanks for writing to us, Samuel.

Here's a note from Peter in Kenya,

and I was impressed with what Peter said.

He said, "I'm writing to you
from Chuka University in Kenya.

Hope Sabbath School's been quite a
blessing since I started following

just one month ago.

We usually assemble on Friday
evenings together with my roommate

and other hostel mates."

I guess that's like a dormitory situation.

"It's helped us to understand
the lesson in an amazing way."

Sounds like you've got a mini
Hope Sabbath School there, right?

In Chuka University.

That's wonderful, Peter.

Keep inviting other
classmates to join you.

"We pray for special blessings

as you present God's message

to the souls of the world.

Praise the Lord."

Well, Peter, praise the Lord for you, too.

Thanks for writing to us from
Chuka University in Kenya.

And one last note from Phoenix in
California, thanks for writing.

Now is Phoenix a man's name or a lady's
name or can it be used for both,

does anybody know?

Phoenix.

We'll need another email.

Good morning, beautiful
servants of the Most High.

Just wanted to say Praise the
Lord for Hope Sabbath School.

It is the high point of my day.

I learn so much; it's interesting,

plus it's just a blessing.

Being filled with the
understanding of God's Word,

it's like tasting water in the desert."

(Team) Wow.

(Derek) "Excellent job, team.

Plus now with the app on my phone,

it really rocks."

That sounds American,
doesn't it, Timoetel?

But, you know, you can go to the App Store

or to Google Play; you
can download our app.

We've got an Android
app and an Apple app.

Put it on your phone;
it's free to download.

It says, "Now I can watch Hope Sabbath
School anytime with no excuses.

Just keep up the good work.

God encourage your heart to keep
going forward towards the mark

of the high calling in Christ Jesus."

Now I've not taken a poll, but there
may have been a time when you said,

"Well, I'm supposed to come and
film Hope Sabbath School today,

but I'd rather just relax
and not do something."

When you hear these stories,
what does it do for you?

It's encouraging, isn't it?

To see the miracles that are
happening, and so we want to thank you

for writing to us wherever you are
around the world at [e-mail].

When you send that, we send it
out to our media team as well,

so they can be encouraged.

We want to thank God for what
He is doing in your life.

By the way, if you go to our website,

hopetv.org/hopess,

you can download the song,

the outline.

We've got sheet music for the song.

You can start a Hope Sabbath School group

in your area and sing the
Scripture song with them.

In fact, we're going to sing it right now.

It's 3,000 years old;
at least the words are.

My wife wrote a simple tune,
but I love this promise,

"I would have lost heart," it says in
Psalm 27:13,14, "unless I had believed

that I would see the goodness of
the Lord in the land of the living.

Wait on the Lord; be of good courage,
and He shall strengthen your heart."

Let's sing that beautiful
promise together.

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(Derek) Let's pray together.

Lord God, we thank You that
we can study Your Word today.

It is a lamp to our feet,
a light to our path.

As we talk about intimations
of hope, glimmers of hope,

we pray that we might not only
see hope but experience hope

even during the challenges of our lives,
that we would have that living connection

with You that changes everything.

So bless in the study of
Your Word today we pray,

each Hope Sabbath School member
blessed, in the name of Jesus.

Amen.

(Team) Amen.

(Derek) Well, we're in the
Book of Job, chapter 13,

and I'm always thinking

that people may join us
for Hope Sabbath School,

and they haven't watched the
first parts of this series.

You can watch it all; you can
go to our website at hopetv.org

and watch all of the programs,

but let's just catch up
on the story of Job,

and, Brittany, just a quick summary.

Here's a man,

tell us a little bit about
him and what happens to him.

(Brittany) Sure, Job started out as a
famous and wealthy man of the East,

and God even called him blameless.

He had multiple possessions, ten children,

and just was very blessed.

But then there was a heavenly
council where the Devil accused God

of blessing him and that Job was only
serving God because of the blessings.

So God says, "Well, I'll
allow you to test him,"

and then everything that Job owned
was taken away, even his children.

All ten of them died in one day.

And after that experience,
then Job was covered in boils

from his head to his toes

and was in pain and anguish and wondering,
"Why is all this happening to me?"

(Derek) So he's going through
a terrible experience,

and then three friends show up,

meaning well, Nathan, right?

And do they help the situation at all?

(Nathan) I think at first they
helped by their presence.

(Derek) Okay.

(Nathan) Seven days sitting
in silence, mourning with Job,

empathizing with him.

But then when they begin to speak,
it's quite clear that their wisdom

is not heavenly wisdom.

(Derek) What did they basically say?

(Nathan) They were basically
saying, "Job, whatever you did

has brought this upon you.

You have done something wrong.

No one else knows about it because
you look good on the outside,

but God's punishing you
for what you've done."

(Derek) And remember that
startling comment of Zophar?

What did he say?

(Nathan) "You deserve worse than this."

(Derek) "You deserve worse than
this, if the truth were known."

And that's speaking to a man that
the Lord Himself called what?

(Team) Blameless and upright.

(Derek) Blameless and upright!

So Job is confused; he doesn't understand.

We're going to Job chapter 13 now,

and Puia, if you'd begin our study
today with the first four verses.

I'd like you to tell us after he speaks,
before we talk about his comments,

what do you think he's
experiencing on the inside now?

He's kind of going through a
very difficult time, Job 13:1-4.

(Puia) I'll be reading from
the New King James Version:

(Derek) Okay,

Well, at first he said the Lord
gives, the Lord takes away;

blessed be the name of the Lord.

Someone said in our study, he's
holding onto the promise, though maybe

a little bit in denial about everything
that's really happened to him.

Nathan, where do you see him here?

Whew, that's pretty strong
language here, isn't it?

(Nathan) Yeah, and I
was just thinking that

we can't miss what he said in verse two.

(Derek) Okay.

(Nathan) When he says, "What you know,
I also know; I am not inferior to you."

Sometimes, meaning well, we
can speak down to people,

make them feel inferior or like, "I
really have greater spiritual insight

than you do; let me help
you straighten out here."

(Derek) Okay.

(Nathan) That's really not helpful.

And we have to be careful that
we don't condescend to people.

(Derek) Condescending, like we're
looking down, treating them as inferior.

They had good intentions, right?

We know that from the beginning; they
sat for a whole week with him, right?

But there's something there that's wrong.

How would you describe what's
happening on the inside?

Anybody?

What emotions are going
on there, do you think?

Jason?

(Jason) He sounds angry.

(Derek) He sounds angry about their
attitude; in fact, doesn't he call them

worthless physicians?

"Forgers of lies."

He's angry.

(Nathan) He also seem to be helpless.

He wants to speak to God; he
wants to reason with God.

He's like, "Here I am; I'm a helpless
victim, and I can't even speak my case."

(Derek) Okay.

(Nathan) Or present my case.

(Derek) Is he just angry?

Is there anything else going
on here, do you think?

Defensive a little bit, like
wanting to present his case.

He certainly wants to speak to God.

__14:14(Joshua) But he's depressed as well.

(Derek) You think he's depressed as well.

He's not in denial about
what's happened, right?

So, the good news is that God loves him!

But he's struggling with why these
things are happening to him.

So let me ask a question.

Sometimes when people are hurting,

especially if we're not that helpful,

but even if we are helpful,
they can kind of lash out at us

because they're hurting so much, you know?

"Let me help you with that bandage,"
you know, and they're like, "Aah!"

Does that make sense to you?

Have you ever met people like that?

The're hurting so much they don't
want you to get near to them.

So how do we show God's love to
someone who's at that level of pain?

What do you think?

What can we do for them?

Jonathan.

(Jonathan) I think it's helpful
to try to take time to understand

where someone's reactions
are coming from.

From personal experience, I've been in
situations where I haven't been able

to act in quite the way that I wanted to,
and some people are able to understand

that and give me grace, and others
don't quite understand that.

(Derek) So kind of thinking, you
know, there's a saying in America

about walking in someone
else's shoes, right?

In other words, take some time,
probably before I open my mouth, right?

Anybody else?

Someone's really hurting.

He's pretty angry here.

How would you approach someone
with that level of anger, Puia?

(Puia) I think it's important for us,
first of all, to ask God to give us

heavenly wisdom in how to approach them.

I think that would be the first step.

(Derek) What would be my human reaction,
if I didn't pray and think about it,

when someone was kind of
lashing out like that?

(Nathan) You'd take it personally
and think they're angry at you.

(Derek) Okay, I could take it personally.

What else might I do?

(Team Member) You'd want to stay away.

(Derek) Stay away, that's right, "I'm
just going to leave you," you know?

"You can take care of it by yourself."

(Nathan) Or even worse,
you might strike back.

(Derek) Or you might try to strike back.

And none of those is helpful; withdrawing,
just to protect myself is not helpful;

striking back is not helpful.

So I've got to pray, "Lord, show me here."

But let me understand, like Jonathan
said, what the person's going through,

so I don't come to kind
of careless conclusions.

Stephanie.

(Stephanie) And if you're the one that has
caused them to be somewhat defensive,

maybe that's where you
could be quiet, you know?

"Lord, I've said something; help
me to be more understanding

of where they're coming from."

(Derek) Okay, so let's keep reading in
Job chapter 13, verses 5 through 12,

and Timoetel, if you'd keep
reading for us in Job 13:5-12,

and let's see what part of his
comments makes sense to you.

Job's struggling, too, so I'm
not saying everything's perfect,

but what about his response
to his friends makes sense?

(Timoetel) Job 13, verses 5 to 12,

and I'll be reading from
the New King James Version:

(Derek) Was he speaking any truth there?

(Team) Yes.

(Derek) If you read the end
of the book, what happens?

(Timoetel) God rebukes them.

(Derek) God rebukes them; He says,
"You have not said what is right

about my servant Job."

So, that part, that
makes sense, doesn't it?

In fact go back to verse
5, better to do what?

(Derek, Team) Be quiet.

(Derek) And if they're saying,
"Why is this happening?"

It would be better to say, "I don't know.

I don't have an answer."

(Nathan) This is an indication,
too, of the unity of Scripture.

Job is speaking under inspiration, or
this is recorded under inspiration here

where he says, "It would be better to be
silent, and that would be your wisdom."

And in Proverbs 17:28, it basically
says that even a fool seems wise

when they keep their mouth shut.

(Derek) Right, and back to the
comment you made earlier, in Job 2

where the friends come and they're
simply silent and grieving,

that probably was some comfort

until they started speaking.

So they brought three friends together,
apparently from different territories.

They were very earnest
in wanting to help him.

But again, how do I respond
to someone who's defensive?

Let's try to understand
them, walk in their shoes.

Can you share a time