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Largest Study on Climbing Falls - Part 1

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    Benvenuti al più ampio studio sulle cadute in arrampicata
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    Negli ultimi due anni abbiamo
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    misurato e analizzato centinaia di cadute
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    Grandi, piccole, con arrampicatori pesanti e leggeri
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    e un sacco di attrito
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    "Non riesco a fare sicura dinamica così!"
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    All'inizio avevo due domante principali
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    a cui volevo rispondere
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    in questo studio; la prima è
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    la quantità di lasco incide sulla caduta?
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    Se l'assicuratore dà più corda, ovviamente
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    l'arrampicatore farà una caduta più lunga, e se
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    cadrà verticalmente la caduta sarà
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    più dura perché cadrà di più.
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    Tuttavia, nell'arrampicata si verifica spesso
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    un piccolo pendolo, una piccola oscillazione
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    verso la parete, quindi la domanda è:
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    cadere di più riduce questo pendolo?
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    Riduce la forza dell'impatto con il quale l'arrampicatore
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    colpirà la parete? E la seconda parte dello
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    studio cerca di rispondere alla domanda
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    "qual è il miglior metodo per assicurare?"
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    Compareremo il saltare in alto con
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    il fare un passo avanti, e come bonus se cambia
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    if the blayer is heavier and as an extra
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    bonus we also compared against the tube
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    style soft catches where you let the
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    Rope slide through the device and while
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    my curiosity started with these two
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    questions I actually discovered way more
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    including some peculiar cases how
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    lightweight blayer can cause harder
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    catch when a heavier
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    blay so let's begin now the problem of
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    making such studies is a sheer number of
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    variables every fall is different we
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    have different weights of the climber
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    and the Blair the position of the
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    climber before the fall fall height and
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    the friction and also the Rope might get
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    stiffer over multiple fs and of course
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    the big one is how the Blair will handle
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    the catch so so I thought okay challenge
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    accepted I'm going to put a force
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    measuring device on the climber and do
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    as many different faults as needed to
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    see the patterns and off we went
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    measuring and measuring and measuring
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    hundred hundreds of Falls and I was
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    building a huge database of
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    results and after a lot of work I
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    understood something and oh [ __ ] moment
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    happened what we were actually measuring
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    was the peak Force to the climber's
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    harness which happens around this moment
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    of the Fall however this moment is not a
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    problem for the climber what is the
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    problem however is how hard the climber
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    will hit the wall I always felt sorry
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    for these lightweight climbers who are
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    slammed into the walls and end up with
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    broken or sprained
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    ankles so let's fix that now while the
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    peak forces should have a correlation
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    with how hard the climber will hit the
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    wall I needed to find a way to prove it
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    and here I was mounting a camera to the
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    wall with the hope to calculate the
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    speed at which the climber would hit the
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    wall based on slow motion footage and
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    here was a tricky part due to
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    perspective Distortion objects that are
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    further away look smaller and in
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    addition to that every camera lens
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    introduced extra Distortion so I really
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    needed to mount the camera as
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    perpendicular to the climber's falling
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    plane as possible and it's not like I
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    can just float the camera anywhere in
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    space I want but after a bit of root
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    searching and then a lot of object
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    tracking combined with a lot of custom
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    code I wrote I got these beautiful
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    velocity and acceleration
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    graphs and now we can do hundreds of
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    more fults and make sense of them all
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    right let's begin with the question how
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    does different amount of slack affect
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    the fall what we did was a series of
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    incremental Falls where the Blair does
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    nothing basically causing a hard catch
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    the first fall was with zero slack and
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    even though it's a small fall I was
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    swung towards the wall really
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    hard for the second fall we used about
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    half of arm of slack and despite the
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    fall being a little bit bigger this time
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    the peak horizontal velocity was
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    lower now of course on such overhanging
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    routes the more the Climber Falls the
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    further the wall gets and that's why I
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    was measuring horizontal speed and the
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    peak of that speed usually happens at
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    the bottom of the pendulum and it's a
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    very good indicator of what would happen
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    if the wall would not be overhanging all
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    right let's try with even bigger Falls
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    Charlie was clearly enjoying this yeah
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    subscribe and the result was interesting
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    the horizontal speed was nearly
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    identical to the previous fall however
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    the peak acceleration was bigger which
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    means that the climber would reach the
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    peak speed faster so based on this it
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    seems that having a little bit of slack
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    was better than no slack but having even
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    more was
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    questionable however despite us trying
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    to Mim Mig hard catches these faults
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    weren't that hard The Faults were
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    relatively small and the blayer was
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    still pulled up a lot and the reason I'm
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    saying this is that in the past I have
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    done similar tests under this bridge
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    where I have discovered that once the
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    fall is hard enough it exceeds the
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    rope's ability to absorb the impact and
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    the climber experiences a bounce back
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    effect and this causes harder false for
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    the climber however when we tried the
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    same with soft catches there was no
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    bounce back and the swing was
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    lower so back to real Rock let's leave
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    the hard catches for the reference and
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    see how the soft catches will compare
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    starting with zero slack we can see that
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    the trajectory of the Fall is more
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    gradual and that the horizontal speed
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    and acceleration was lower significantly
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    lower next fall was with half arm of
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    slack and despite the climber falling
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    more horizontal speed was actually
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    almost
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    identical so let's try bigger okay
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    one two oh okay let's
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    go o that was soft don't you think I I
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    was too scared to think so despite
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    nearly pulling my Blair into the first
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    bolt and colliding with him the
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    horizontal speed again was nearly
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    identical so at least in this test case
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    scenario falling more combined with soft
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    catch had no benefits but as they say
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    one test is no test and that's why I was
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    rigging another one in the spot where we
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    will be able to do even bigger Falls
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    falling hardish so we started with zero
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    amount of slack and Charlie giving the
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    softest catch he can however the fall
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    was described as hard
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    dish
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    ready yeah one two three
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    falling softer and this time adding a
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    little bit of slack felt softer for the
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    climber and also did reduce the
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    horizontal speed by a little bit so
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    let's see what happens with even bigger
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    Falls you good whenever you want one two
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    three
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    falling take a big pop very soft very
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    soft and if we look into the graphs the
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    horizontal speed was even lower this
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    time so we went even bigger to 1 and 1
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    half M of slack which is quite a lot one
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    two three
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    falling
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    woo that was soft but there was this
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    kind of D yeah yeah I I noticed it
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    myself so this time the climber felt
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    more jerk on the initial impact of the
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    Rope however the horizontal speed was
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    further reduced and looking into all of
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    these faults we can clearly see
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    correlation how increasing the amount of
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    slack decrease reles the horizontal
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    speed into the
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    wall and since that was contradicting
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    with our previous findings we had to do
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    more Falls and in this scenario falling
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    more was also better you can even see
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    the visual
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    difference and here is one more example
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    this time the climber was falling from
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    lower position and we had less friction
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    once again falling more had softer
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    impact with the wall so a summary of
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    this segment is that the swing or the
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    pendulum into the wall can be reduced by
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    extra slack however if you exceed R's
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    ability to absorb the impact the Rope
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    will bounce the climber back into the
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    wall and then things might be even worse
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    and obviously falling more gets you
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    closer to exceeding that limit but more
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    importantly hard catch can get you there
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    very quickly so for example here is one
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    of the most common mistakes where the
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    bler simply throws a ton of slack but no
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    effort in making a soft
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    catch
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    okay and here is another one first a
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    soft
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    catch and now a hard one
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    that okay we had the same amount of
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    slack but the difference was
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    massive you can clearly see the
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    bounceback effect how the climber is
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    being pulled back
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    up what was your
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    impressions one elbow versus two elbows
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    versus three elbows no elbows between
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    one elbow and two you'll have to measure
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    that mass masso menos more or less what
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    it's going to be but I think that's The
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    Sweet Spot how was no slack at all
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    difficult to give the soft catch it's
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    difficult to give the soft catch yeah
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    with no slag is really hard
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    to hit the timing perfectly yeah so what
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    we all noticed is that with zero slack
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    it's really hard to give a soft catch
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    because you don't have enough time to go
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    down and jump up maybe with the
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    exception If the fall is really big then
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    the climber is falling for quite a while
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    and then you have time but on very very
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    small Falls you would have to have some
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    cat reflexes and go like super fast but
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    in general the most comfortable was
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    between half to full arm of slack and
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    that caused the softest catches for the
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    climbers and more than that is very very
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    rarely beneficial and simp simply asking
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    for some collisions or dragging the
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    blayer into the first bolt or simply a
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    bunch of extra Pull-Ups for the climber
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    after the fall and uh the bigger ones
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    like three elbows like I say between one
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    and two elbows is The Sweet Spot like
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    one and two is more or less the same for
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    me personally three is also softer Anna
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    says but just a little bit harder to
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    judge again but it's harder to judge
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    when to jump mhm the EAS the climber is
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    falling faster already exactly exactly
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    now I can see how lightweight blers are
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    probably already typing no slack for me
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    I fly up anyway so we actually did
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    testing on that and we got some
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    interesting results but before that I
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    just wanted to quickly say thank you for
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    all my friends and supporters who helped
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    in creating all of this study it's been
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    the biggest project I've ever tried both
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    in terms of time and energy and money so
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    it would definitely not be possible
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    without all of you so huge thank you and
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    now back to lightweight blers so we
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    started with zero
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    slack wa that looked
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    harder yeah visually and we can already
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    see something interesting once the robe
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    gets tight the speed of the climber
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    starts to drop however as soon as the
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    blay is pulled off the ground the speed
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    of the climber starts to increase again
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    the climber experiences a double fall
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    effect okay let's increase the amount of
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    slack we still get this double fall
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    effect but the horizontal speed is
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    reduced so let's go
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    bigger and here we have the same pattern
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    a double fall but the horizontal speed
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    is even further
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    reduced so let's try even bigger with
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    crazy one and a half arms of
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    slack you ready yeah three two one soft
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    catch and here the double fall effect is
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    very visible but same as in previous
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    experiments we see a strong correlation
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    that the bigger the fall the slower the
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    horizontal speed for the climber so the
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    softer impact with the wall and while
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    that wasn't a surprise what was however
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    a surprise is when we swapped her and me
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    naturally I was expecting that the
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    heavier Blair should cause a harder
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    catch for the climber but if we compare
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    Anna's no slack versus mine you can see
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    that my catch was significantly
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    softer
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    and here is Anna's half arm of slack
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    compared to
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    mine and same results my catch was
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    softer again and to be fair we were
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    asking her to give a soft catch
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    one two and give a soft catch you ready
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    yeah soft catch on three 2
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    1 and finally Anna's full arm of
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    slack versus
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    mine and to my surprise I was giving
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    softer catches for the climber than the
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    lighter
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    belayer however I think this has more to
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    do with the fact that lighter blers
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    usually fly up anyway so they don't have
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    enough practice to give soft catches but
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    let me give you another example so this
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    experiment was slightly different 118
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    here Me and Charlie did a bunch of soft
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    catches but this time we measured the
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    forces to the climber this was the
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    average line of Charlie's catches this
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    was mine and this was the average of
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    averages and we also did some hard
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    catches for the
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    reference that was much harder all right
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    and now let's compare this to a light
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    Blair no no and the first catch was
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    really bad in fact as hard as our heart
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    catches you jumped way too soon you've
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    got to wait till she sucks you you're
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    down here and when you can feel her
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    sucking you you push up with
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    her look at her once she starts falling
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    you go down up I am getting scared
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    come
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    on no now the second catch was much
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    better but still not what we were
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    expecting so we did some
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    practicing oh that was super soft
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    falling and then this
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    happened
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    that look quite nice 12
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    121 so as you can see experience plays a
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    bigger role than being lighter and
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    although lighter blares very rarely
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    cause hard catches for
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    climbers however with enough friction
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    light Blair becomes heavy and actually
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    recently I saw one really nasty fall
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    where a bler was a light girl a climber
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    was relatively light girl a lot of
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    friction and a huge slam into the wall
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    and then a poor girl had to get
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    assistance to get back to the
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    car and I'm curious did you ever got
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    unexpectedly hard catch from a light
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    blayer write down in the comments I want
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    to see how often that happens all right
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    so we have seen how both slack and soft
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    catch has a big effect on the fall but
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    there is something even more important
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    here is a hard catch with no
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    slack and here is a soft catch with a
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    little bit of slack so we can see the
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    best and the worst case
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    scenarios but now check what happens
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    when the Climber Falls from slightly
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    different position I simply changed my
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    legs but I was not pushing away from the
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    wall
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    [Music]
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    [Laughter]
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    [Music]
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    I anticipa a bit too much there that's
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    why you wear a
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    helmet that would have been a what was
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    it a trip straight to the yard a trip
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    straight to the yard that would be
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    go but if we look into the graphs we can
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    see that this new fall
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    had harder fall than the hard catch
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    before despite Charlie trying to give it
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    a soft catch with his
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    head so as you can see how the Climber
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    Falls can be more important than the
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    amount of slack or a soft catch and here
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    sometimes you can see beginners pushing
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    away from the wall during the fall and
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    combine that with another inexperienced
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    delayer and a hard catch and that's a
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    good recipe for sprained ankles so so do
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    not push it's very rarely beneficial to
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    push away unless you're clearing some
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    kind of slab but otherwise do not push
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    now in the second part of this study I
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    wanted to figure out which blay method
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    is the best so we compared jumping up
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    versus stepping forward and also does
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    that change if the player is heavier or
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    there is a lot of friction in the system
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    but since all of this is already SL slly
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    different topic I'm going to split all
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Title:
Largest Study on Climbing Falls - Part 1
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Video Language:
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Team:
Hard Is Easy
Duration:
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