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Dear Thay, dear Sangha,
my question is about healing
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and about true love.
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For me it is very difficult to
say good bye to people,
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when people come and go in my life.
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I've been practicing being in
touch with my 5-year-old self
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for some years, and recently when
someone said good bye to me,
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it was very difficult.
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And I reflected on it afterwards,
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and the voice of my 5-year-old self
came out and said something like:
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"I need to make my mother happy
so that she can take care of me,
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and if she's sad, then that means
I can't make her happy
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and that I can't love."
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I think when people say good bye to me,
that means that I can't love them
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and they're leaving because I
haven't been able to love them.
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And I know that I direct a lot
of my love outward
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and when someone is leaving
or something like that,
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then I want to give them more love to
make them stay, I think.
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Because I'm afraid that they're leaving.
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And I think part of it is I'm afraid
that they'll be gone
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maybe like my mother wasn't there
when I was a baby,
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and I'm also afraid that maybe
I have some sort of
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defect that means that my love is ineffective,
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I can't love people that I want to love.
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That is my question. How to heal this
and be able to-
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and so I can love freely without trying to
grasp onto people when they leave?
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They're saying, in every one of us
there is a wounded child.
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And you need to take
care of that wounded child.
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To take care of this wounded child,
we need to go inside ourselves,
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we need to be present with ourselves
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instead of putting a focus out there
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and searching for love, for acceptance,
for recognition to fill up this hole in here
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that's left by this big wound,
the wounded child in us.
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I think we need to come back
and take care of this,
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take care of ourselves.
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It's really love for ourselves, that we're able
to come back and listen to ourselves,
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listen to that wounded child.
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And only when we can do that to ourselves,
that we can heal this wounded child.
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It's only when we can come back and listen to ourselves and be there with ourselves,
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to care for this woundedness, that we
can truly love ourselves.
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And only when you can do that then
you can love other people.
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And this love that we have for other people,
that is based on this love for ourselves,
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it gives people space, and it gives us space.
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It gives the people the freedom,
and it gives us the freedom.
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The freedom to go, to come
whenever they feel like it.
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And it give us the freedom to welcome
people when they come
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and then to let them go
when they have to go.
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I think we all here really do
it to heal ourselves
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and to heal the woundedness inside us,
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and we've offered concrete
practices to do that
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and it's a matter of freely
embodying these concrete practices.
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You know like putting down to practice,
these teachings and practices that we learn.
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And also we have the Sangha
around us to support us
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in that walk of healing ourselves,
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because everyone in the Sangha
is really doing that too, to heal ourselves
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So I see, Scott, that you are very lucky
that you get to stay here
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longer than most people here.
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You know, Scott is an intern here that
has been here for several years now
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and has been a member of the
Sangha here for a long time.
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And so, in that way you're very lucky.
Because you have the Sangha
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to practice with you, you have the Sangha to remind you to practice,
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and you have the tools to do it.
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And this is it. This is the place,
and this is the time
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to care of that wounded child, to bring your
attention in instead of putting it out here.
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What happens in the community is that,
from my own personal experience,
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is that there's just so many people here.
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You know, I live with 70 sisters.
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And if I am the kind of person that
always put my attention out here,
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it's endless. I mean, it never stops.
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There's just so many interesting people here
and more people are coming all the time.
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It's going to drain me if I
always put my attention here.
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So I need to have a balance by coming inside
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to care for myself and to listen to myself.
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And so, here in Plum Village,
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there are times when we are very
busy like during this retreat
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and you know, like this is our fourth
week and everyone is really-
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you know, like the fatigue, it's sinkening.
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But there are times when it's not so busy,
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and one of the thing that you do is
working in the Happy Farm
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and sometimes I go down there
and I really envy you guys
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because whole day you just work with nature
and you really interact with Mother Earth
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and you have the space around you,
the silence around you,
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these are elements for healing.
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And if you can stop in here, so you can
allow these beauties to come in
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and that's one way to help you heal yourself,
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heal the wounded child inside yourself.
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We can still put one another
in doing this work
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and we have everything we need to do it.
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It's a matter of just go back,
where we're reminded again and again
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by the whole community. Go back to take
care of that wounded child.
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And that's love, that's love for ourselves,
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and also love for other people too.
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So thank you for your question.
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Thank you, just to add a little bit from
the brothers who live with Scott.
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How many years you've been here?
You like part of Plum Village now, ay?
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Yeah, five. It's like the old trees
going up around here now.
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It'll be hard for us to say good bye when you
decide to move on to explore other things.
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We do talk about you, the brothers,
and how much you have transformed.
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You look very beautiful, your body,
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has transformed. I don't know, the
brothers are like, "Is that Scott?!"
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I don't know if you've looked in the mirror
lately, but you look very different.
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When Scott first came here, he was a different shape.
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How to say, sorry to put you on the
spot, but you know,
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he's been through a
beautiful transformation process.
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When Scott first came here,
he really wanted us to accept him.
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But we told him, you have
to accept yourself first.
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This is one beautiful transformation,
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he's come to that level where
he's accepted himself.
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And you can see it, because your body
changes when your mind changes.
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Now, he's not needy anymore.
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Scott, your energy is very positive.
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Your outlook, we actually see
you helping a lot of people.
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So you have to retell new story,
you're holding onto an old story.
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You're not just a wounded child,
but you are your mother.
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You see, now you're taking care of other
people like your mother would want you to.
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And people feel that connection.
All the () come here,
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they all go through either Scott, Mark,
Connor, all the () that live up here
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he take care of them like an
older brother and sister.
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And this is something that we want
to express our gratitude to you,
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Scott, for hanging out with us when we
made a hard decision on you,
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and you said, "I'm gonna stick it here."
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You didn't leave. You see,
that is powerful.
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Usually when you get rejected by the
monastic, people leave, they [groveling]
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but you said, "I'm staying, I'm going
for the long-term program."
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And the brothers are like, "Really?"
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And then you stick around, you're here
more than some of the monks.
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So the way you are doing the monastic life,
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you train your mind, you transform yourself,
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so the story you told me, is one story.
I could've told it differently.
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You are now your mother, and
you're living your life for her.
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She is alive in you, and you're loving
people like your mother would love you.
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You see, that's another story.
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So when you say goodbye to them,
it's like your mother
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saying goodbye to her
teenage child to college.
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Have a good life, I'm so happy you've
been here for one week,
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and you've touched deeply. See,
this is another story right.
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When you say goodbye to them, you say-
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In my mind, when I say goodbye to people,
I send them off like that, like "Wow,
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thank you for being with us, please pass
it on. Be our fingers and go out there
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and help other people touch love, touch
goodness, touch wholesomeness.
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So you have also the energy of your
mother inside, not just the child.
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Yes, you are her child, you are your
grandchild, but you are also your mother,
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your grandmother, your great
great grandmother.
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So you have to rely on these seeds,
they're all in your self.
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You can feel it in your hands, your
hands is your mother's hands.
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And everything you do from now on, you
need to train, to tell another story.
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Yes, the story of the wounded child is there,
but you have another story to develop,
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and make it a beautiful story.
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Work in the Happy Farm, be in touch
with the children that come down there
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and you share with them, look, when
you pick up a potato for them,
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do it with your mother's hand.
So that's your new training, okay?
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Every one of us have a story
and we get stuck with it,
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and we keep telling it.
Tell different angles of it,
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tell a story where you are your mother, tell a
story where you are your father,
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tell a story that you are the planet
earth. You're not just human,
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you're the planet earth.
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Now you working in the happy farm,
you need to train to be mother earth.
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And mother earth is the
greatest mother of all,
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and every day you're on
your knees doing stuff,
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you have to do it for the mother energy,
the healing energy that we all need.
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And you're offering it, this is
why it is hard for you,
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because people really love you, right?
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But as a practitioner, you have
to see that they are you.
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They are leaving, and they are an
extension of you. None-self.
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So you train. This requires training
because we are attached to 'me',
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you have to begin to train like that. Imagine
how many people we have to say goodbye to
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every retreat, every [gibberish].
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This is how we train, so please take
refuge in all the mothers inside you
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and look at the people leaving
as your mother's child.
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And I think we have a
lot of confidence in you.
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I hope you never leave. It will be hard
for us to say goodbye to you.
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Sorry, a little attachment is okay.
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Thank you, Scott, for being
a beautiful person.