CIA and Swedish military conspire to bring down the elected Sweden's PM
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0:01 - 0:07In 1989 the Soviet empire started to collapse.
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0:07 - 0:11A historic victory. It could be that the Secret Committee of US
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0:11 - 0:15President Ronald Reagan contributed to it.
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0:15 - 0:18Herb Mayer, CIA vice-chief of Intelligence
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0:18 - 0:20- They stopped playing defense and began to play offense.
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0:20 - 0:24That was the great shift that changed the course of world history.
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0:24 - 0:25Thomas Reed, Special Questions Advisor
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0:25 - 0:28We could have brought them to their knees if we wanted.
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0:28 - 0:30Did the Committee in fact exist?
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0:30 - 0:33What methods did Reagan’s soldiers use?
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0:34 - 0:35John Lemann, the Minister of the US Navy
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0:35 - 0:38- The use of deception
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0:38 - 0:40could make it appear to the Soviets to be 20 feet tall.
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0:44 - 0:45Admiral James ‘Ace’ Lyons
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0:45 - 0:49- You have to go out and physically demonstrate...
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0:49 - 0:53For the first time, witnesses tell of those events.
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0:54 - 0:55Mathias Mossberg, the Secretary General
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0:55 - 0:56for 3d Submarine Investigation Board.
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0:56 - 0:59- They made fools of the Swedish parliament and government
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0:59 - 1:04as well as Swedish media. What world do we actually live in?
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1:05 - 1:09Deception: Reagan’s Method
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1:09 - 1:13A film by Dirk Polmann
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1:13 - 1:15Submarines against Olof Palme
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1:15 - 1:20The next target is a supposed neutral state in the North of Europe -
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1:22 - 1:28Sweden. Only the Baltic Sea separates it from the Soviet Union
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1:29 - 1:30Ula Tunander:
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1:30 - 1:31Sweden was actually extremely important
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1:31 - 1:34in case of a future World War.
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1:35 - 1:38Sweden was located northward of Germany
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1:38 - 1:44and was kind of an unsinkable aircraft-carrier
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1:44 - 1:47that the US could operate from.
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1:49 - 1:54Since 1960 Sweden had been integrated in plans of NATO militarization.
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1:54 - 1:58In the 1960's, Swedish Air Forces ranked 4th strongest in the world.
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1:58 - 2:03The US Army counted on Sweden’s secret loyalty to NATO.
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2:03 - 2:05Ula Tunander:
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2:05 - 2:08- Since 1960, Sweden was preparing to
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2:08 - 2:10receive US aircraft on its territory.
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2:10 - 2:13There was a direct phone line with
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2:13 - 2:17the headquarters of US Navy in Wiesbaden.
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2:18 - 2:19Ingemar Engman:
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2:19 - 2:23- We prepared airfields, on which the American jet airplanes
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2:23 - 2:28could have landed on their way eastwards.
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2:28 - 2:33The USA needed Sweden as an 'aircraft-carrier'.
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2:33 - 2:39And besides: the Soviet Union would be forced to fight on two fronts.
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2:43 - 2:46There’s an extremely conservative elite in the Swedish Army,
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2:46 - 2:50an economy and aristocracy
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2:50 - 2:55that treats social-democrats with deep mistrust.
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2:57 - 2:58Ula Fritjofson:
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2:58 - 3:01- In social-democratic Sweden it was perhaps
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3:01 - 3:05the most powerful social-democratic party in the world.
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3:07 - 3:10A charismatic leader, Olof Palme –
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3:10 - 3:15a man of indisputable international renoun.
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3:15 - 3:18A man who had enemies.
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3:18 - 3:20Ula Tunander:
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3:20 - 3:22- It was the social-democratic government of the country.
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3:22 - 3:26But there’re also ruling elites who shared quite different views.
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3:26 - 3:29They were closely related to the USA and Great Britain.
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3:29 - 3:34And this means that you have a divided Sweden.
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3:34 - 3:37Once I was invited for dinner with James Schlesinger -
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3:37 - 3:41the former US Secretary of Defense and Director of CIA.
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3:41 - 3:45I asked him what he thought of Sweden
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3:45 - 3:48at the time he had occupied his position.
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3:48 - 3:51And he asked me: ‘What Sweden?
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3:51 - 3:54The political Sweden or the military Sweden?’
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3:55 - 4:00At the end of 60's, beginning of 70's, the Vietnam War
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4:00 - 4:03shook up the Western states
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4:03 - 4:07Outraged youth organized demonstrations all over the world.
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4:07 - 4:11Olof Palme led demonstrations criticizing US policy
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4:11 - 4:15together with the North Vietnamese Ambassador.
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4:15 - 4:16The case is exactly one for the Committee.
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4:16 - 4:19In 1981 Palme is still the opposition leader
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4:19 - 4:24But a year later he wins the elections and has brilliant ratings.
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4:24 - 4:29Palme’s and Reagan’s plans are as much as fire and water.
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4:29 - 4:34However the Committee can use the preliminary work of the CIA.
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4:34 - 4:36Since 70's, the US Secret Service had been scheming
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4:36 - 4:39against Palme on Swedish territory.
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4:39 - 4:44Reagan and Casey knew: Palme
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4:44 - 4:47among Swedish security agencies.
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4:47 - 4:52Besides, important Swedish admirals are on their side.
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4:53 - 4:54John Lehman:
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4:54 - 4:58- Certainly there were efforts to see that the Swedish military
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4:58 - 5:03addressed the demands of NATO strategies and ideas,
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5:03 - 5:06and that Sweden had access to technologies
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5:06 - 5:10needed to defend their neutrality.
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5:11 - 5:15On the morning of October 28th, 1981
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5:15 - 5:19the Chief of Swedish Naval Staff in Karlsrona
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5:19 - 5:22receives an unexpected report:
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5:22 - 5:26Fishermen found a submarine washed ashore.
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5:26 - 5:30Commander Karl Andersson immediately heads there.
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5:32 - 5:33Karl Andersson:
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5:33 - 5:37- As soon as we called in at Gosefjerden I slowed down.
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5:37 - 5:42And suddenly I saw a black and green
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5:42 - 5:46Whiskey-class submarine 100 meters in front of me.
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5:46 - 5:50It was obviously a Russian submarine.
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5:55 - 5:59The highest rank aboard was the Chief of Brigade Staff
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5:59 - 6:01from the city of Baltiysk – Joseph Avrukevich.
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6:01 - 6:05He had navigated the submarine along quite a narrow fjord.
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6:05 - 6:07The commander Peter Gushchin was forced
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6:07 - 6:09to follow Avrukevich’s instructions.
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6:11 - 6:12Karl Andersson:
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6:12 - 6:15- I could never understand what kind of commander he was
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6:15 - 6:18or what the operation was meant to be.
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6:18 - 6:21I actually didn’t even think of that because
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6:21 - 6:25it was incredibly stupid to call in at Gosefjerden
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6:25 - 6:27since a submarine could run aground.
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6:28 - 6:30The submarine had been drifting for a long time
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6:30 - 6:33until Avrukevich, guided by a beacon, steered the submarine
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6:33 - 6:38into the fairway of the just 100
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6:38 - 6:39Karl Andersson:
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6:39 - 6:43- They could hire a fishing boat under the guise
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6:43 - 6:45of a Swedish flag for that purpose.
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6:45 - 6:48But it was a very stupid decision
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6:48 - 6:50to call in there with a submarine.
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6:51 - 6:55The public will discover: the submarine was sent to spy.
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6:55 - 6:59In a fjord that it couldn’t submerge into,
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6:59 - 7:02since there was 1.5 m of water under the keel?
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7:02 - 7:04Anderson notes that the person who was responsible
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7:04 - 7:07for making decisions was the mysterious Chief of Staff Avrukevich.
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7:07 - 7:11He then received an order not to interrogate him.
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7:11 - 7:12Karl Andersson:
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7:12 - 7:16- Yes, I received this exact order.
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7:16 - 7:19I received orders to interrogate Gushchin only,
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7:19 - 7:23the watch officer, the signaler and the navigator.
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7:23 - 7:29I was prohibited from interrogating anyone else.
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7:34 - 7:37Swedish Naval Forces sent a diver under water.
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7:37 - 7:41Their footage is being officially shown
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7:43 - 7:45They make a startling discovery.
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7:45 - 7:50A big sand dune formed behind the marine propeller.
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7:51 - 7:53Ula Tunander:
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7:53 - 7:56- In front of the propeller there was no sand dune.
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7:56 - 7:59That meant someone wanted the submarine
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7:59 - 8:03to run further against the rocks, to stay there.
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8:03 - 8:07And then it was turned around more than 50 degrees
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8:07 - 8:10so the submarine would really get stuckin the rocks
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8:10 - 8:14so it wouldn't slide off.
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8:15 - 8:18To sum up: A supposed spy submarine put into
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8:18 - 8:22the extremely narrow fjord, where
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8:22 - 8:26under the keel and will sooner
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8:27 - 8:31When it happened, the engines continued to work at full capacity.
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8:31 - 8:33The submarine crawled further
onto the rocks until it got stuck. -
8:33 - 8:37But one mustn't interrogate the officer
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8:37 - 8:39responsible for this insane operation.
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8:40 - 8:43‘Whiskey on the rocks’ hit the headlines.
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8:43 - 8:45Sweden is shocked and indignant.
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8:48 - 8:51Olof Palme wins the elections in 1982.
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8:51 - 8:54He wants to achieve neutrality, disarmament
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8:54 - 8:57and nonalignment to the military blocs for Sweden.
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8:58 - 9:03Confrontation mitigation; but
Reagan wanted just the opposite. -
9:04 - 9:07Therefore the ‘Deception Committee’ begins to project
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9:07 - 9:10the operation of psychological warfare.
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9:10 - 9:14A pretense of reality that should return Sweden back on the course
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9:14 - 9:17that corresponds to the Reagan strategy.
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9:20 - 9:25Two weeks after Palme took office a submarine’s periscope
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9:25 - 9:28was detected at a Swedish naval base Muskö.
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9:29 - 9:31It could be – and everyone claimed they were:
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9:31 - 9:35only Soviet submarines after ‘Whiskey on the Rocks’.
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9:35 - 9:37Ula Tunander:
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9:37 - 9:41- They showed their periscopes and cone towers to the public.
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9:41 - 9:45A submarine's captain shouldn’t do that.
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9:45 - 9:46Mathias Mossberg:
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9:46 - 9:48- Why did they want to be seen?
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9:48 - 9:52To turn the trick. And they did that very well.
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9:53 - 9:56A few hours after the submarines had been detected,
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9:56 - 9:59the Swedish Naval Forces convene a press conference.
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9:59 - 10:02More than 750 journalists from all over the world report
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10:02 - 10:05on Swedish Naval Forces with arms ready in hand
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10:05 - 10:09but without success; hunt for the Soviet submarines.
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10:10 - 10:13Is it just a pretense for media?
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10:14 - 10:18In the following years, the hunt for submarines
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10:18 - 10:20repeats hundreds of times.
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10:20 - 10:23Foreign submarines are seen in front of the Royal Palace
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10:23 - 10:26and in front of summerhouses and naval bases.
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10:26 - 10:29While Palme negotiates with the Soviets on disarmament
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10:29 - 10:32and proposals of peace, Soviet Military Forces
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10:32 - 10:34apparently pretend to want it.
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10:34 - 10:36Moscow is confused.
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10:36 - 10:39No one has given such orders to their military.
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10:39 - 10:41Or are there self-ruling captains?
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10:43 - 10:45Palme protests
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10:45 - 10:47to the Soviet Ambassador again and again.
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10:47 - 10:50In the end the latter passes a proposal from the Kremlin.
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10:50 - 10:53Boris Pankin, the Soviet Ambassador to Sweden:
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10:53 - 10:57- If you think our submarines are there, you can bomb them.
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10:57 - 10:59But we know there are none,
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10:59 - 11:01that’s why we are not afraid of any bombing.
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11:02 - 11:04Endless, unsuccessful war against
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11:04 - 11:07the ghost submarines has its consequences.
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11:13 - 11:15Ulf Svenson:
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11:15 - 11:18- It was impossible for Palme to do anything alse
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11:18 - 11:20than to decisively blame the Russians.
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11:21 - 11:26It was difficult to ensure the policy of ‘common security’
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11:26 - 11:29in relation to the communist states.
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11:29 - 11:31The leaders of Swedish Naval Forces
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11:31 - 11:34sunk not a single enemy submarine
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11:34 - 11:36Palme’s ‘common security’ policy.
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11:36 - 11:41Without the Swedish media, this operation would fail.
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11:41 - 11:42Mathias Mossberg:
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11:42 - 11:46- The media were very much taking the lead
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11:46 - 11:52in blowing up this issue according to
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11:52 - 11:59the information they got from our militaries.
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12:00 - 12:04From 1981 to 1983, the number of Swedes
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12:04 - 12:10who felt there was a Soviet threat increased from 27% to 83%.
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12:11 - 12:14Boris Pankin, the Soviet Ambassador to Sweden:
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12:14 - 12:18- I would like to mention why it bothers me now.
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12:18 - 12:22It turned out that even in such an educated, Western-European state,
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12:22 - 12:27in such a bulwark of democracy, it was quite easy
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12:27 - 12:33to distract vast masses of people and brainwash
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12:33 - 12:37Since 1983, three investigations
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12:37 - 12:39imto the submarines scam were carried out.
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12:40 - 12:41Mathias Mossberg:
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12:41 - 12:44- The first inquiry concluded that it was Soviet submarines.
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12:44 - 12:47The second concluded that this could not be proven.
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12:47 - 12:50Then a few years went by and an interview
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12:50 - 12:57came out with Caspar Weinberger, the US Secretary of Defense,
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12:57 - 13:02who clearly said that the US was involved in this.
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13:02 - 13:04Caspar Weinberger, the US Secretary of Defense:
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13:04 - 13:07- There was no direct insertion or testing of
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13:07 - 13:11Swedish defense without consultion,
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13:11 - 13:14when speaking of the agreement.
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13:14 - 13:16Keith Speed, the British Navy Minister:
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13:16 - 13:18- There were exercise attacks.
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13:18 - 13:21Could the submarines infiltrate their waters
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13:21 - 13:23and emerge at the port in Stockholm?
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13:23 - 13:26Well, that’s not quite the thing but something like that.
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13:26 - 13:28How far could we go?
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13:28 - 13:29During my administration, we had Oberon-class and Porpoise-class
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13:29 - 13:32diesel submarines for that purpose.
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13:33 - 13:38It's quite clear: Swedish Naval Forces’ leadership knew
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13:38 - 13:42NATO’s submarines were in Swedish territorial waters.
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13:42 - 13:45Why had they kept silent back then?
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13:45 - 13:48And what part had the Americans and British played?
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13:51 - 13:53Mathias Mossberg:
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13:53 - 13:55- Obviously we needed to go into the question again.
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13:55 - 13:58They instituted a new inquiry
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13:58 - 14:00and appointeded me as Secretary General.
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14:00 - 14:04Mossberg found a document in the Muskö naval base archives.
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14:04 - 14:07Several senior admirals were worried about
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14:07 - 14:11Weinberger’s statement and wanted to be prepared.
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14:11 - 14:13Mathias Mossberg:
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14:13 - 14:19- To the effect we had to coordinate our response to this.
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14:19 - 14:24I wanted to take a copy of this document.
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14:25 - 14:27But our military expert told us:
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14:27 - 14:29‘You don’t need to do that.
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14:29 - 14:35We have this at the office in Stockholm’.
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14:35 - 14:39I believed him. When I came back to our office
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14:39 - 14:43it turned that we didn’t have this document at all.
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14:44 - 14:47And next time we went back to that archive
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14:47 - 14:51that particular document had disappeared.
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14:51 - 14:55So these were the kind of things we had to fight with.
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14:56 - 14:58The board faced resistance:
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14:58 - 15:01Access to the archives was denied and it discovered
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15:01 - 15:04that the military destroyed important evidence,
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15:04 - 15:06photographs and documents.
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15:08 - 15:09Mathias Mossberg:
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15:09 - 15:12- What we were dealing with was a certain group
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15:12 - 15:17that was not telling the government the full truth
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15:17 - 15:26about what they knew or had happened or was happening.
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15:27 - 15:35And they were taking decisions which had far-reaching implications
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15:35 - 15:40for Swedish defense and foreign policy.
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15:40 - 15:45They were decisions that were taken outside
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15:45 - 15:50the democratic framework of the Swedish government.
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15:50 - 15:54Then of course, you ask yourself where you are.
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15:54 - 15:58In a country, where the army conspired together with
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15:58 - 16:01a foreign power against its own Minister-President?
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16:01 - 16:02Mathias Mossberg:
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16:02 - 16:04- Sweden was taken for a ride.
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16:04 - 16:06Public opinion was taken for a ride,
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16:06 - 16:09Swedish parliament was taken for a ride,
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16:09 - 16:14Swedish government was taken for a ride,
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16:14 - 16:18What sort of world are we actually living in?
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16:19 - 16:22In a world where Olof Palme was murdered.
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16:22 - 16:25The killer hasn’t been found yet.
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16:26 - 16:28Mikhail Gorbachev, The President of the USSR
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16:28 - 16:33-I’m sure it was a political killing. It was a contract killing…
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16:33 - 16:39I don’t think he was murdered for some domestic reasons…
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16:41 - 16:44- Why do you think it was a political killing?
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16:44 - 16:48Because this man and the things he was proposing...
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16:49 - 16:53Their implementation involved the interests
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16:53 - 16:59of groups who weren't particularly interested
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16:59 - 17:02in making world a better place.
- Title:
- CIA and Swedish military conspire to bring down the elected Sweden's PM
- Video Language:
- Russian
- Duration:
- 17:03
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