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Dialogue: 0,0:00:01.47,0:00:07.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In 1989 the Soviet empire started to collapse.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:07.12,0:00:11.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A historic victory. It could be that the Secret Committee of US
Dialogue: 0,0:00:11.23,0:00:15.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,President Ronald Reagan contributed to it.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:15.44,0:00:17.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Herb Mayer, CIA vice-chief of Intelligence
Dialogue: 0,0:00:17.68,0:00:20.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- They stopped playing defense and began to play offense.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.49,0:00:24.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was the great shift that changed the course of world history.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.48,0:00:25.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thomas Reed, Special Questions Advisor
Dialogue: 0,0:00:25.48,0:00:27.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We could have brought them to their knees if we wanted.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:27.80,0:00:30.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Did the Committee in fact exist?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.25,0:00:32.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What methods did Reagan’s soldiers use?
Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.54,0:00:35.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John Lemann, the Minister of the US Navy
Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.36,0:00:37.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- The use of deception
Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.54,0:00:40.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,could make it appear to the Soviets to be 20 feet tall.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.61,0:00:44.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Admiral James ‘Ace’ Lyons
Dialogue: 0,0:00:44.93,0:00:48.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- You have to go out and physically demonstrate...
Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.24,0:00:53.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For the first time, witnesses tell of those events.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.74,0:00:54.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mathias Mossberg, the Secretary General
Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.82,0:00:56.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for 3d Submarine Investigation Board.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:56.33,0:00:59.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- They made fools of the Swedish parliament and government
Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.27,0:01:04.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as well as Swedish media. What world do we actually live in?
Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.25,0:01:08.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Deception: Reagan’s Method
Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.75,0:01:13.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A film by Dirk Polmann
Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.26,0:01:15.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Submarines against Olof Palme
Dialogue: 0,0:01:15.37,0:01:19.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The next target is a supposed neutral state in the North of Europe -
Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.98,0:01:28.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sweden. Only the Baltic Sea separates it from the Soviet Union
Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.72,0:01:29.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ula Tunander:
Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.71,0:01:31.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sweden was actually extremely important
Dialogue: 0,0:01:31.50,0:01:34.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in case of a future World War.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.73,0:01:38.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sweden was located northward of Germany
Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.21,0:01:44.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and was kind of an unsinkable aircraft-carrier
Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.27,0:01:47.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the US could operate from.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:48.73,0:01:53.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Since 1960 Sweden had been integrated in plans of NATO militarization.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.72,0:01:58.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the 1960's, Swedish Air Forces ranked 4th strongest in the world.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.47,0:02:03.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The US Army counted on Sweden’s secret loyalty to NATO.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:03.49,0:02:04.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ula Tunander:
Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.58,0:02:07.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Since 1960, Sweden was preparing to
Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.65,0:02:10.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,receive US aircraft on its territory.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.30,0:02:12.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was a direct phone line with
Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.77,0:02:17.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the headquarters of US Navy in Wiesbaden.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:17.75,0:02:18.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ingemar Engman:
Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.88,0:02:23.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- We prepared airfields, on which the American jet airplanes
Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.07,0:02:27.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,could have landed on their way eastwards.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:28.21,0:02:33.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The USA needed Sweden as an 'aircraft-carrier'.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.46,0:02:38.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And besides: the Soviet Union would be forced to fight on two fronts.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.74,0:02:46.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There’s an extremely conservative elite in the Swedish Army,
Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.48,0:02:50.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an economy and aristocracy\Ncompletely aligned with the USA
Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.24,0:02:55.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that treats social-democrats with deep mistrust.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:56.72,0:02:57.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ula Fritjofson:
Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.84,0:03:00.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- In social-democratic Sweden it was perhaps
Dialogue: 0,0:03:00.52,0:03:04.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the most powerful social-democratic party in the world.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.70,0:03:10.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A charismatic leader, Olof Palme –
Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.24,0:03:15.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a man of indisputable international renoun.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.26,0:03:18.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A man who had enemies.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:18.48,0:03:19.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ula Tunander:
Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.85,0:03:22.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- It was the social-democratic government of the country.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.50,0:03:26.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But there’re also ruling elites who shared quite different views.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.13,0:03:28.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They were closely related to the USA and Great Britain.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.03,0:03:33.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this means that you have a divided Sweden.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.94,0:03:36.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Once I was invited for dinner with James Schlesinger -
Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.78,0:03:41.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the former US Secretary of Defense and Director of CIA.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.28,0:03:44.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I asked him what he thought of Sweden
Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.97,0:03:47.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the time he had occupied his position.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:47.61,0:03:51.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he asked me: ‘What Sweden?
Dialogue: 0,0:03:51.07,0:03:54.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The political Sweden or the military Sweden?’
Dialogue: 0,0:03:55.23,0:03:59.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At the end of 60's, beginning of 70's, the Vietnam War
Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.52,0:04:02.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,shook up the Western states\Nand deeply divided society.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:02.67,0:04:07.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Outraged youth organized demonstrations all over the world.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.21,0:04:11.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Olof Palme led demonstrations criticizing US policy
Dialogue: 0,0:04:11.21,0:04:14.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,together with the North Vietnamese Ambassador.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:14.52,0:04:15.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The case is exactly one for the Committee.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.89,0:04:18.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In 1981 Palme is still the opposition leader
Dialogue: 0,0:04:18.60,0:04:24.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But a year later he wins the elections and has brilliant ratings.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.22,0:04:28.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Palme’s and Reagan’s plans are as much as fire and water.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:28.82,0:04:33.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,However the Committee can use the preliminary work of the CIA.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.54,0:04:36.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Since 70's, the US Secret Service had been scheming
Dialogue: 0,0:04:36.22,0:04:39.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,against Palme on Swedish territory.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:39.20,0:04:43.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Reagan and Casey knew: Palme \Nis considered to be a traitor
Dialogue: 0,0:04:43.53,0:04:46.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,among Swedish security agencies.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.94,0:04:51.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Besides, important Swedish admirals are on their side.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.23,0:04:54.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John Lehman:
Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.43,0:04:58.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Certainly there were efforts to see that the Swedish military
Dialogue: 0,0:04:58.30,0:05:02.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,addressed the demands of NATO strategies and ideas,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.73,0:05:06.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that Sweden had access to technologies
Dialogue: 0,0:05:06.24,0:05:09.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,needed to defend their neutrality.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.38,0:05:15.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On the morning of October 28th, 1981
Dialogue: 0,0:05:15.25,0:05:18.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Chief of Swedish Naval Staff in Karlsrona
Dialogue: 0,0:05:18.76,0:05:22.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,receives an unexpected report:
Dialogue: 0,0:05:22.25,0:05:25.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Fishermen found a submarine washed ashore.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:25.73,0:05:29.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Commander Karl Andersson immediately heads there.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:31.74,0:05:32.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Karl Andersson:
Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.62,0:05:36.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- As soon as we called in at Gosefjerden I slowed down.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:36.91,0:05:41.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And suddenly I saw a black and green
Dialogue: 0,0:05:41.60,0:05:46.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whiskey-class submarine 100 meters in front of me.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:46.30,0:05:49.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was obviously a Russian submarine.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:55.14,0:05:58.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The highest rank aboard was the Chief of Brigade Staff
Dialogue: 0,0:05:58.84,0:06:01.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the city of Baltiysk – Joseph Avrukevich.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:01.40,0:06:04.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He had navigated the submarine along quite a narrow fjord.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:04.65,0:06:07.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The commander Peter Gushchin was forced
Dialogue: 0,0:06:07.50,0:06:09.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to follow Avrukevich’s instructions.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:10.74,0:06:11.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Karl Andersson:
Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.62,0:06:15.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I could never understand what kind of commander he was
Dialogue: 0,0:06:15.28,0:06:18.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or what the operation was meant to be.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:18.37,0:06:21.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I actually didn’t even think of that because
Dialogue: 0,0:06:21.26,0:06:24.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was incredibly stupid to call in at Gosefjerden
Dialogue: 0,0:06:24.52,0:06:26.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,since a submarine could run aground.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:27.53,0:06:30.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The submarine had been drifting for a long time
Dialogue: 0,0:06:30.19,0:06:33.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,until Avrukevich, guided by a beacon, steered the submarine
Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.24,0:06:37.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into the fairway of the just 100\Nmeter wide Gosefjerden.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:38.21,0:06:39.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Karl Andersson:
Dialogue: 0,0:06:39.36,0:06:42.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- They could hire a fishing boat under the guise
Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.72,0:06:45.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of a Swedish flag for that purpose.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.00,0:06:47.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it was a very stupid decision
Dialogue: 0,0:06:47.77,0:06:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to call in there with a submarine.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:51.11,0:06:55.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The public will discover: the submarine was sent to spy.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:55.26,0:06:58.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In a fjord that it couldn’t submerge into,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:58.72,0:07:01.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,since there was 1.5 m of water under the keel?
Dialogue: 0,0:07:01.55,0:07:04.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anderson notes that the person who was responsible
Dialogue: 0,0:07:04.48,0:07:07.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for making decisions was the mysterious Chief of Staff Avrukevich.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:07.44,0:07:10.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He then received an order not to interrogate him.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:11.39,0:07:12.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Karl Andersson:
Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.33,0:07:15.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yes, I received this exact order.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.80,0:07:19.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I received orders to interrogate Gushchin only,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:19.50,0:07:23.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the watch officer, the signaler and the navigator.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:23.22,0:07:29.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was prohibited from interrogating anyone else.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:33.69,0:07:36.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Swedish Naval Forces sent a diver under water.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:36.68,0:07:41.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Their footage is being officially shown\Nhere for the first time ever.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:42.67,0:07:44.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They make a startling discovery.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:44.83,0:07:50.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A big sand dune formed behind the marine propeller.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:51.26,0:07:52.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ula Tunander:
Dialogue: 0,0:07:52.52,0:07:56.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- In front of the propeller there was no sand dune.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:56.48,0:07:59.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That meant someone wanted the submarine
Dialogue: 0,0:07:59.40,0:08:02.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to run further against the rocks, to stay there.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.26,0:08:06.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then it was turned around more than 50 degrees
Dialogue: 0,0:08:06.58,0:08:10.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so the submarine would really get stuckin the rocks
Dialogue: 0,0:08:10.17,0:08:13.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so it wouldn't slide off.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:14.53,0:08:18.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To sum up: A supposed spy submarine put into
Dialogue: 0,0:08:18.26,0:08:21.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the extremely narrow fjord, where\Nthere's almost no water
Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.74,0:08:26.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,under the keel and will sooner\Nor later run aground.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.62,0:08:30.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When it happened, the engines continued to work at full capacity.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:30.88,0:08:33.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The submarine crawled further\Nonto the rocks until it got stuck.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:33.44,0:08:36.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But one mustn't interrogate the officer
Dialogue: 0,0:08:36.75,0:08:39.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,responsible for this insane operation.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:39.77,0:08:42.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,‘Whiskey on the rocks’ hit the headlines.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:42.70,0:08:45.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sweden is shocked and indignant.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:47.77,0:08:51.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Olof Palme wins the elections in 1982.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:51.18,0:08:53.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He wants to achieve neutrality, disarmament
Dialogue: 0,0:08:53.69,0:08:56.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and nonalignment to the military blocs for Sweden.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:57.58,0:09:03.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Confrontation mitigation; but\NReagan wanted just the opposite.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:03.91,0:09:07.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Therefore the ‘Deception Committee’ begins to project
Dialogue: 0,0:09:07.49,0:09:09.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the operation of psychological warfare.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:09.83,0:09:13.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A pretense of reality that should return Sweden back on the course
Dialogue: 0,0:09:13.75,0:09:17.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that corresponds to the Reagan strategy.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:20.48,0:09:25.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Two weeks after Palme took office a submarine’s periscope
Dialogue: 0,0:09:25.02,0:09:27.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was detected at a Swedish naval base Muskö.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:29.22,0:09:31.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It could be – and everyone claimed they were:
Dialogue: 0,0:09:31.49,0:09:34.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,only Soviet submarines after ‘Whiskey on the Rocks’.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:35.47,0:09:36.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ula Tunander:
Dialogue: 0,0:09:36.59,0:09:40.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- They showed their periscopes and cone towers to the public.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:40.95,0:09:44.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A submarine's captain shouldn’t do that.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:44.87,0:09:45.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mathias Mossberg:
Dialogue: 0,0:09:45.84,0:09:48.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Why did they want to be seen?
Dialogue: 0,0:09:48.24,0:09:51.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To turn the trick. And they did that very well.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:53.21,0:09:56.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A few hours after the submarines had been detected,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:56.05,0:09:58.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Swedish Naval Forces convene a press conference.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:58.72,0:10:02.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,More than 750 journalists from all over the world report
Dialogue: 0,0:10:02.29,0:10:05.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on Swedish Naval Forces with arms ready in hand
Dialogue: 0,0:10:05.45,0:10:08.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but without success; hunt for the Soviet submarines.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:09.74,0:10:13.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is it just a pretense for media?
Dialogue: 0,0:10:14.50,0:10:17.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the following years, the hunt for submarines
Dialogue: 0,0:10:17.76,0:10:19.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,repeats hundreds of times.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:19.72,0:10:22.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Foreign submarines are seen in front of the Royal Palace
Dialogue: 0,0:10:22.70,0:10:25.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in front of summerhouses and naval bases.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:25.86,0:10:29.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,While Palme negotiates with the Soviets on disarmament
Dialogue: 0,0:10:29.46,0:10:32.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and proposals of peace, Soviet Military Forces
Dialogue: 0,0:10:32.48,0:10:34.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,apparently pretend to want it.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:34.42,0:10:36.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Moscow is confused.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:36.23,0:10:38.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No one has given such orders to their military.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:38.90,0:10:41.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or are there self-ruling captains?
Dialogue: 0,0:10:43.49,0:10:45.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Palme protests
Dialogue: 0,0:10:45.12,0:10:46.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the Soviet Ambassador again and again.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:46.76,0:10:50.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the end the latter passes a proposal from the Kremlin.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:50.44,0:10:52.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Boris Pankin, the Soviet Ambassador to Sweden:
Dialogue: 0,0:10:52.88,0:10:56.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- If you think our submarines are there, you can bomb them.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:56.58,0:10:58.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But we know there are none,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:58.57,0:11:00.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that’s why we are not afraid of any bombing.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:02.22,0:11:04.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Endless, unsuccessful war against
Dialogue: 0,0:11:04.48,0:11:07.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the ghost submarines has its consequences.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:13.48,0:11:14.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ulf Svenson:
Dialogue: 0,0:11:14.54,0:11:17.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- It was impossible for Palme to do anything alse
Dialogue: 0,0:11:17.78,0:11:20.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than to decisively blame the Russians.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:20.76,0:11:25.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was difficult to ensure the policy of ‘common security’
Dialogue: 0,0:11:25.79,0:11:28.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in relation to the communist states.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:28.77,0:11:30.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The leaders of Swedish Naval Forces
Dialogue: 0,0:11:30.79,0:11:34.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sunk not a single enemy submarine\Nbut it successfully torpedoed
Dialogue: 0,0:11:34.22,0:11:36.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Palme’s ‘common security’ policy.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:36.45,0:11:40.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Without the Swedish media, this operation would fail.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:40.75,0:11:42.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mathias Mossberg:
Dialogue: 0,0:11:42.23,0:11:46.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- The media were very much taking the lead
Dialogue: 0,0:11:46.49,0:11:52.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in blowing up this issue according to
Dialogue: 0,0:11:52.46,0:11:58.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the information they got from our militaries.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:59.65,0:12:04.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,From 1981 to 1983, the number of Swedes
Dialogue: 0,0:12:04.21,0:12:09.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who felt there was a Soviet threat increased from 27% to 83%.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:11.20,0:12:14.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Boris Pankin, the Soviet Ambassador to Sweden:
Dialogue: 0,0:12:14.45,0:12:17.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I would like to mention why it bothers me now.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:17.94,0:12:22.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It turned out that even in such an educated, Western-European state,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:22.47,0:12:26.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in such a bulwark of democracy, it was quite easy
Dialogue: 0,0:12:26.75,0:12:33.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to distract vast masses of people and brainwash\Nthem, to zombify them.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:33.49,0:12:36.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Since 1983, three investigations
Dialogue: 0,0:12:36.53,0:12:39.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,imto the submarines scam were carried out.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:39.50,0:12:40.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mathias Mossberg:
Dialogue: 0,0:12:40.68,0:12:44.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- The first inquiry concluded that it was Soviet submarines.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:44.10,0:12:47.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The second concluded that this could not be proven.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:47.45,0:12:50.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then a few years went by and an interview
Dialogue: 0,0:12:50.45,0:12:57.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,came out with Caspar Weinberger, the US Secretary of Defense,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:57.49,0:13:02.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who clearly said that the US was involved in this.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:02.47,0:13:03.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Caspar Weinberger, the US Secretary of Defense:
Dialogue: 0,0:13:03.85,0:13:07.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- There was no direct insertion or testing of
Dialogue: 0,0:13:07.28,0:13:11.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Swedish defense without consultion,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:11.38,0:13:13.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when speaking of the agreement.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:14.38,0:13:15.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Keith Speed, the British Navy Minister:
Dialogue: 0,0:13:15.60,0:13:17.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- There were exercise attacks.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:17.89,0:13:20.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Could the submarines infiltrate their waters
Dialogue: 0,0:13:20.52,0:13:23.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and emerge at the port in Stockholm?
Dialogue: 0,0:13:23.26,0:13:25.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, that’s not quite the thing but something like that.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:25.86,0:13:27.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How far could we go?
Dialogue: 0,0:13:27.59,0:13:29.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,During my administration, we had Oberon-class and Porpoise-class
Dialogue: 0,0:13:29.21,0:13:32.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,diesel submarines for that purpose.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:33.50,0:13:37.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's quite clear: Swedish Naval Forces’ leadership knew
Dialogue: 0,0:13:37.52,0:13:41.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,NATO’s submarines were in Swedish territorial waters.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:41.75,0:13:45.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why had they kept silent back then?
Dialogue: 0,0:13:45.17,0:13:48.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what part had the Americans and British played?
Dialogue: 0,0:13:51.50,0:13:52.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mathias Mossberg:
Dialogue: 0,0:13:52.76,0:13:54.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Obviously we needed to go into the question again.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:54.96,0:13:57.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They instituted a new inquiry
Dialogue: 0,0:13:57.53,0:13:59.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and appointeded me as Secretary General.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:00.46,0:14:04.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mossberg found a document in the Muskö naval base archives.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:04.33,0:14:06.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Several senior admirals were worried about
Dialogue: 0,0:14:06.76,0:14:10.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Weinberger’s statement and wanted to be prepared.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:11.49,0:14:12.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mathias Mossberg:
Dialogue: 0,0:14:12.76,0:14:18.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- To the effect we had to coordinate our response to this.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:18.76,0:14:23.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wanted to take a copy of this document.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:24.98,0:14:26.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But our military expert told us:
Dialogue: 0,0:14:26.78,0:14:29.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,‘You don’t need to do that.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:29.22,0:14:34.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have this at the office in Stockholm’.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:34.60,0:14:39.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I believed him. When I came back to our office
Dialogue: 0,0:14:39.46,0:14:43.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it turned that we didn’t have this document at all.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:43.69,0:14:46.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And next time we went back to that archive
Dialogue: 0,0:14:46.76,0:14:50.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that particular document had disappeared.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:51.42,0:14:55.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So these were the kind of things we had to fight with.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:56.00,0:14:58.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The board faced resistance:
Dialogue: 0,0:14:58.49,0:15:01.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Access to the archives was denied and it discovered
Dialogue: 0,0:15:01.27,0:15:03.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the military destroyed important evidence,
Dialogue: 0,0:15:03.56,0:15:05.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,photographs and documents.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:07.90,0:15:08.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mathias Mossberg:
Dialogue: 0,0:15:08.73,0:15:12.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- What we were dealing with was a certain group
Dialogue: 0,0:15:12.23,0:15:16.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that was not telling the government the full truth
Dialogue: 0,0:15:16.52,0:15:26.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about what they knew or had happened or was happening.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:26.57,0:15:35.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they were taking decisions which had far-reaching implications
Dialogue: 0,0:15:35.47,0:15:40.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for Swedish defense and foreign policy.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:40.39,0:15:45.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They were decisions that were taken outside
Dialogue: 0,0:15:45.31,0:15:49.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the democratic framework of the Swedish government.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:49.98,0:15:54.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then of course, you ask yourself where you are.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:54.36,0:15:57.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In a country, where the army conspired together with
Dialogue: 0,0:15:57.50,0:16:01.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a foreign power against its own Minister-President?
Dialogue: 0,0:16:01.20,0:16:02.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mathias Mossberg:
Dialogue: 0,0:16:02.26,0:16:04.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Sweden was taken for a ride.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:04.46,0:16:06.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Public opinion was taken for a ride,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:06.50,0:16:09.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Swedish parliament was taken for a ride,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:09.48,0:16:14.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Swedish government was taken for a ride,\Nthe press was taken for a ride.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:14.46,0:16:18.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What sort of world are we actually living in?
Dialogue: 0,0:16:18.74,0:16:22.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In a world where Olof Palme was murdered.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:22.19,0:16:25.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The killer hasn’t been found yet.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:26.25,0:16:27.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mikhail Gorbachev, The President of the USSR
Dialogue: 0,0:16:27.73,0:16:32.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-I’m sure it was a political killing. It was a contract killing…
Dialogue: 0,0:16:33.04,0:16:39.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don’t think he was murdered for some domestic reasons…
Dialogue: 0,0:16:40.52,0:16:43.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Why do you think it was a political killing?
Dialogue: 0,0:16:43.57,0:16:48.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because this man and the things he was proposing...
Dialogue: 0,0:16:48.74,0:16:53.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Their implementation involved the interests
Dialogue: 0,0:16:53.15,0:16:59.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of groups who weren't particularly interested
Dialogue: 0,0:16:59.22,0:17:01.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in making world a better place.