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Mary Reid Kelley in "History" - Season 6 - "Art in the Twenty-First Century" | Art21

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    [ MARY REID KELLEY ] It was a huge 
    change to film at EMPAC with any
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    sort of technological assist you could want.
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    The film that we did before "You Make Me Iliad," we filmed partly in my parents’ basement and partly in our apartment.
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    - With a white undershirt and this shirt 
    you won’t be able to tell.
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    - Fancy pants.
    - Totally.
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    So for this film, I invited my sister Alice and Alice’s husband, Micah, and then my youngest sister, Juliet.
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    - Brainy McBrainyton, Maximilian....
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    - Max-milian.
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    - Maximilian Robespierre perfectly 
    memorized Jean-Jacques Rousseau.
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    Citizens bored by his hyper-verbosity, shouted 
    in unison, merde, sans chapeau!
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    - Okay, you know Jean-Jacques 
    Rousseau was an important music theorist?
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    - Yes, I know.
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    - I feel like I should sing this one.
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    - And you know what, what he did?
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    Oh yes, yes, please, please sing it. 
    Just sing, improvise right now.
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    - [ laughs ] Sorry.
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    [ ALICE REID PRUISNER ] We were always very creative 
    growing up. And a lot of what we did,
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    growing up, I kind of see in her art 
    now. We would create these elaborate
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    plays that we would put on that Mary, as the 
    oldest of course was always the instigator.
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    - So try singing your awesome 
    little tune with like perfectly
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    memorized Jean-Jacques Rousseau.
    Citizens bored.....
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    - So like there’s a change in tone.
    - Okay.
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    ♪ Brainy McBrainy to Maximilian 
    Robespierre ♪
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    ♪ perfectly memorized Jean-Jacques Rousseau ♪
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    ♪ Citizens bored by his hyper-verbosity 
    shouted in unison, ♪
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    [ ALL ] Merde! Sans chapeau.
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    - Alice, show us your 
    throat-slashing gesture.
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    [ grunts ]
    - Yeah.
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    - If I start out higher and circle below.
    - There, that’s totally clear.
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    - Should I bare my teeth? Arrggh.
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    - Do whatever you want
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    - While I’m saying, "merde, sans chapeau.'
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    - That’s good. That looks really 
    good.
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    - I think Alice should go like this.
    - Like what?
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    - Can’t see the actual like throat-cutting, 
    it’s just the hand, like this.
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    - Yeah.
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    - You think I should 
    use my left hand instead?
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    - One More?
    - Yeah.
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    [ MICAH PRUISNER ] Brainy McBrainyton, Maximilian 
    Robespierre perfectly memorized Jean-Jacques Rousseau.
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    Citizens bored by his 
    hyper-verbosity shouted in unison...
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    [ ALL ] Merde! Sans chapeau.
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    [ JULIET REID ] She has always had an 
    interesting part to play in the entire family’s perspectives on life.
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    When I was in 
    junior high, she was bringing home feminist
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    literature for me to read from college. And 
    just giving me new things to think about.
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    - And I kind of want the 
    snow shakers to be up high.
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    - High? Like this?
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    - Like still on the 
    screen, but high.
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    - Are we recording?
    - Yeah.
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    - Jelly tart, jelly tart, General Bonaparte.
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    Sentimentality worried all France.
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    He cried, saccharine tears on the banks of the Volga 
    while Waterloo waterworks spotted his pants.
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    - This is going to be a tricky 
    time for you guys
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    cause you’re going to have to put it
    together and yell, "100 Voltaires."
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    We'll get you to scoot...
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    - And actually I suggest that we need to 
    start bringing our hands together to do the
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    Jacob’s Ladder before, so that when they, when it 
    comes together, it’s, bing "100 Voltaires."
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    [ MICAH ] I’m an engineer. So 
    I have little to no background in art.
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    And therefore when I see Mary’s artwork, it, it is always so different from what I normally encounter
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    that it 
    makes me think a lot harder about it.
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    - I think we'll be okay.
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    - So we’re not using 
    audio for this. So just...
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    - Ready to go?
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    - Yeah, I think, I think I am.
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    - Mary, could...since we’re not 
    doing audio, can you be like "and stop"?
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    - Yeah.
    - Okay.
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    - Okay, I'll just
    - Just hiss or something so you don't have to move your mouth.
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    [ crosstalk ]
    - Okay, yeah. Okay.
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    [ ALL ] Twinkle toe, twinkle toe, Dennis P. Diderot. 
    Dreamed of a government led by his heirs.
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    Nightmares so ghastly, so anti-Enlightenment 
    gave him the shock of 100 Voltaires.
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    [ PATRICK KELLEY ] Mary came across this map. 
    It’s this old map of Paris, pre-Haussmann
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    renovation of Paris. The design of this map is an 
    inspiration for making some of the buildings.
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    What we thought we would do is try to recreate some 
    of the architecture that you see in this map,
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    this sort of cartoon-like etching hatch-marking 
    architecture as three-dimensional models
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    so that we would have these objects 
    as possible virtual set elements.
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    [ REID KELLEY ] It’s so wild that they 
    had electricity to do this.
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    - That's the actual Haussmann time?
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    - Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
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    He wouldn’t put electricity 
    on the streets, he wanted gas on the streets,
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    cause he thought it was more 
    aesthetic.
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    But here, you want to see it?
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    And here you can see the texture of 
    the street. It’s like a cobblestone.
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    - Well yeah, we have that...
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    [ REID KELLEY ] I think that one of the reasons that 
    I’m motivated to do research and to do all the
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    reading is that it’s very much a set of values 
    that learning is good. Books are good.
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    Things in books will help you.
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    Who knows where it came 
    from? Probably in large part from my parents.
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    I grew up in South Carolina. I’m the eldest 
    of four children.
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    My next sister is Alice, and then my brother Dan. And 
    then my youngest sister, Juliet.
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    My parents met doing their master’s in 
    history.
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    My mom and dad or notorious for never just driving by a historical marker, we always pull over to see what it is.
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    In the South, at least in terms of the Civil 
    War, there’s this historical burden.
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    You’re aware pretty early on that there isn’t just one version 
    that’s accepted,
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    that people are kind of tugging at this historical record,
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    you know wanting 
    to manipulate the history, one way or another.
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    - Okay, that’s good. This shot is really quick. 
    It’s just a couple seconds.
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    So run out, put the chairs down. I’ll put the board 
    on. Hop on it, start doing this and kind
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    of kicking my heels. And then I want both 
    of you to kind of like lean over the chair.
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    [ REID KELLEY ] The director role is not something 
    that comes super naturally.
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    I think that’s one of the reasons I really 
    value getting to work with my family members,
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    it makes it easier for me to ask for what I want.
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    - Okay, good. Now, now when you do 
    that, like jostle each other like.....
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    - Yeah, like, here, I want the better view, [ laughs ]
    - I want the better view.
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    - No, no, I want to get it.
    - Okay.
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    [ laughs ]
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    - Excellent, we got it. Yep.
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    - Step back and 
    lay back down so I should see when...
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    [ REID KELLEY ] The entire concept comes out 
    of the research and out of the reading.
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    - See, 'cause I don't have a pillow, it’s 
    going to make it a lot harder.
    - Yeah.
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    [ REID KELLEY ] And it’s my choice of what we do.
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    - So I think you’re going to 
    have to bring it around to the side.
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    [ REID KELLEY ] And then once we’re kind of
    on the way.....
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    My husband Pat, is very enthusiastic to just 
    pick up whatever is happening and run with it.
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    - Do we want to be straight down?
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    - Uh, yeah.
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    - Is that about like this? Eric would it be 
    crazy for me to shoot from that gap right there?
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    - No, not at all.
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    [ REID KELLEY ] I never would have made that big 
    leap from being a painter to something as,
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    as complicated and as technically 
    involved as, as this work without Pat.
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    - Secretly, secretly Queen Marie Antoinette 
    studied her algebra all night in bed.
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    Scholars remarked that the mathematician her beauty 
    resolved to make knowledge widespread.
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    - That was it, yeah. That was great.
    - Okay.
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    - Awesome.
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    - Okay.
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    Secretly, secretly Queen Marie Antoinette 
    studied her algebra all night in bed.
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    Scholars remarked that the mathematician her beauty 
    resolved to make knowledge widespread.
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    - After we shoot this and we’ll 
    shoot that. And then we have a break.
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    Then you guys are just going to have to hang 
    out, maybe eat another piece of pizza
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    while I get into Sisyphus.
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    And then we’ve got a 
    couple more larger, wider shots. So.....
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    - We have the baguettes, right?
    [ overlapping chatter ]
    - Oh, yes, and the baguettes.
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    - I baguette you.
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    - Yes, the dandy outfits, 
    yeah. So we’re doing good, but we got a lot more to go.
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    So... [ sighs ] So stay down.
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    [ REID KELLEY ] I love to put on makeup. 
    That’s one of my favorite parts of,
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    of making the work, is getting 
    to, to draw the face on.
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    My mother never wore makeup and 
    I was always obsessed with it.
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    The eyes block out everything.
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    When I look out of the eyes, I see very little, which is great.
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    And it’s, it’s helped me do the performance. And I don’t think I could have started performing without them.
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    - About in the right spot?
    - Mm-hmm, looks great.
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    - Okay.
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    [JULIET ] What exactly is the 
    title? This syph....
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    [ ALICE ] Okay, I always...Sis
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    [JULIET ] Sisyphus, that’s right? Sisyphus.
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    [ MICAH ] I’m guessing partially because 
    it actually rhymes with syphilis.
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    - Syph...Syph...
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    - The Syphilis of 
    Sisyphus.
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    - No, is that right? [ chuckles ]
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    [ REID KELLEY ] The title of the new 
    film is "The Syphilis of Sisyphus."
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    Most of the, the text from this film is just kind of the extended polemical musings of this woman,
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    this female character, Sisyphus.
    She’s a prostitute.
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    At the beginning we 
    kind of see her getting ready to go out
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    and she’s doing her toilet 
    and putting on her makeup.
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    - So now remember when she starts,
    she’s like not mad.
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    - Right.
    - She’s, she’s almost sad.
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    But she’s bitter. She’s not like sweetly sad. She’s 
    not like resigned sad, she’s bitter sad.
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    - Pouting sad.
    - Face right.
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    - I can actually see my reflection 
    in the camera, it’s kind of helpful.
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    - Yeah.
    [ indistinct speech ]
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    - That’s so Magritte. I didn’t
    even think of that till just now.
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    - [ laughs ] It is.
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    - It’s like Crazy Kat meets Magritte.
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    Nature sold me a lie. And I’ve kept the deceit 
    on my face to remind me, her falsehoods repeat
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    like the seasons renew. Same advice every time 
    because nature can counsel me, nothing but crime.
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    [ REID KELLEY ] One of the things that I love about encountering 
    paintings is looking at them over time and coming
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    back and, and viewing it again. So when I 
    make video works I love the idea of people
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    coming back to them and seeing them over 
    and over.
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    And always get something new.
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    Her utopian swindles profess to be cures, but 
    in fact generations
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    while smeared with manure as a young naïve milkmaid in apron and braids,
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    I too was revolting on top of the barricades.
    Praising the rustic I fell to gourmet
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    and my radical urges
    were lost due to negligee.
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    Shamed by this lapse into luxuries error, I hid 
    my defections till this happy mirror
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    revealed a new cause for which Sisyphus shoulders the 
    burdens of charm crying: Make Beauty Boulder.
Title:
Mary Reid Kelley in "History" - Season 6 - "Art in the Twenty-First Century" | Art21
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