1 00:00:13,574 --> 00:00:18,160 [ MARY REID KELLEY ] It was a huge  change to film at EMPAC with any 2 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:22,023 sort of technological assist you could want. 3 00:00:22,023 --> 00:00:30,120 The film that we did before "You Make Me Iliad," we filmed partly in my parents’ basement and partly in our apartment. 4 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,068 - With a white undershirt and this shirt  you won’t be able to tell. 5 00:00:34,901 --> 00:00:37,760 - Fancy pants. - Totally. 6 00:00:42,037 --> 00:00:49,860 So for this film, I invited my sister Alice and Alice’s husband, Micah, and then my youngest sister, Juliet. 7 00:00:50,777 --> 00:00:53,000 - Brainy McBrainyton, Maximilian.... 8 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:54,223 - Max-milian. 9 00:00:54,223 --> 00:00:58,677 - Maximilian Robespierre perfectly  memorized Jean-Jacques Rousseau. 10 00:00:58,677 --> 00:01:04,872 Citizens bored by his hyper-verbosity, shouted  in unison, merde, sans chapeau! 11 00:01:04,872 --> 00:01:07,958 - Okay, you know Jean-Jacques  Rousseau was an important music theorist? 12 00:01:07,958 --> 00:01:09,040 - Yes, I know. 13 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:10,780 - I feel like I should sing this one. 14 00:01:10,780 --> 00:01:12,681 - And you know what, what he did? 15 00:01:12,681 --> 00:01:17,776 Oh yes, yes, please, please sing it.  Just sing, improvise right now. 16 00:01:17,776 --> 00:01:20,416 - [ laughs ] Sorry. 17 00:01:23,210 --> 00:01:27,320 [ ALICE REID PRUISNER ] We were always very creative  growing up. And a lot of what we did, 18 00:01:27,320 --> 00:01:33,840 growing up, I kind of see in her art  now. We would create these elaborate 19 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:40,533 plays that we would put on that Mary, as the  oldest of course was always the instigator. 20 00:01:40,860 --> 00:01:47,000 - So try singing your awesome  little tune with like perfectly 21 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,464 memorized Jean-Jacques Rousseau. Citizens bored..... 22 00:01:49,464 --> 00:01:52,745 - So like there’s a change in tone. - Okay. 23 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,646 ♪ Brainy McBrainy to Maximilian  Robespierre ♪ 24 00:01:57,646 --> 00:02:00,463 ♪ perfectly memorized Jean-Jacques Rousseau ♪ 25 00:02:00,463 --> 00:02:04,993 ♪ Citizens bored by his hyper-verbosity  shouted in unison, ♪ 26 00:02:04,993 --> 00:02:07,662 [ ALL ] Merde! Sans chapeau. 27 00:02:10,826 --> 00:02:14,177 - Alice, show us your  throat-slashing gesture. 28 00:02:14,177 --> 00:02:15,889 [ grunts ] - Yeah. 29 00:02:15,889 --> 00:02:20,834 - If I start out higher and circle below. - There, that’s totally clear. 30 00:02:20,834 --> 00:02:22,778 - Should I bare my teeth? Arrggh. 31 00:02:22,778 --> 00:02:23,360 - Do whatever you want 32 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,657 - While I’m saying, "merde, sans chapeau.' 33 00:02:28,952 --> 00:02:30,929 - That’s good. That looks really  good. 34 00:02:30,929 --> 00:02:33,920 - I think Alice should go like this. - Like what? 35 00:02:33,920 --> 00:02:38,200 - Can’t see the actual like throat-cutting,  it’s just the hand, like this. 36 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:39,300 - Yeah. 37 00:02:39,816 --> 00:02:43,016 - You think I should  use my left hand instead? 38 00:02:45,716 --> 00:02:47,207 - One More? - Yeah. 39 00:02:48,334 --> 00:02:54,167 [ MICAH PRUISNER ] Brainy McBrainyton, Maximilian  Robespierre perfectly memorized Jean-Jacques Rousseau. 40 00:02:54,167 --> 00:02:58,499 Citizens bored by his  hyper-verbosity shouted in unison... 41 00:02:58,499 --> 00:03:00,935 [ ALL ] Merde! Sans chapeau. 42 00:03:00,935 --> 00:03:10,009 [ JULIET REID ] She has always had an  interesting part to play in the entire family’s perspectives on life. 43 00:03:10,619 --> 00:03:13,457 When I was in  junior high, she was bringing home feminist 44 00:03:13,457 --> 00:03:19,140 literature for me to read from college. And  just giving me new things to think about. 45 00:03:19,750 --> 00:03:23,920 - And I kind of want the  snow shakers to be up high. 46 00:03:23,920 --> 00:03:25,149 - High? Like this? 47 00:03:25,149 --> 00:03:27,939 - Like still on the  screen, but high. 48 00:03:27,939 --> 00:03:30,301 - Are we recording? - Yeah. 49 00:03:30,935 --> 00:03:34,090 - Jelly tart, jelly tart, General Bonaparte. 50 00:03:34,090 --> 00:03:36,545 Sentimentality worried all France. 51 00:03:36,545 --> 00:03:43,968 He cried, saccharine tears on the banks of the Volga  while Waterloo waterworks spotted his pants. 52 00:03:48,165 --> 00:03:50,269 - This is going to be a tricky  time for you guys 53 00:03:50,269 --> 00:03:54,528 cause you’re going to have to put it together and yell, "100 Voltaires." 54 00:03:55,725 --> 00:03:57,712 We'll get you to scoot... 55 00:04:00,826 --> 00:04:03,680 - And actually I suggest that we need to  start bringing our hands together to do the 56 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:08,770 Jacob’s Ladder before, so that when they, when it  comes together, it’s, bing "100 Voltaires." 57 00:04:08,770 --> 00:04:16,386 [ MICAH ] I’m an engineer. So  I have little to no background in art. 58 00:04:17,231 --> 00:04:23,833 And therefore when I see Mary’s artwork, it, it is always so different from what I normally encounter 59 00:04:23,833 --> 00:04:26,280 that it  makes me think a lot harder about it. 60 00:04:27,125 --> 00:04:28,921 - I think we'll be okay. 61 00:04:30,177 --> 00:04:33,020 - So we’re not using  audio for this. So just... 62 00:04:33,654 --> 00:04:34,340 - Ready to go? 63 00:04:34,340 --> 00:04:36,533 - Yeah, I think, I think I am. 64 00:04:36,533 --> 00:04:40,000 - Mary, could...since we’re not  doing audio, can you be like "and stop"? 65 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:41,933 - Yeah. - Okay. 66 00:04:41,933 --> 00:04:45,133 - Okay, I'll just - Just hiss or something so you don't have to move your mouth. 67 00:04:45,133 --> 00:04:47,938 [ crosstalk ] - Okay, yeah. Okay. 68 00:04:54,393 --> 00:05:00,680 [ ALL ] Twinkle toe, twinkle toe, Dennis P. Diderot.  Dreamed of a government led by his heirs. 69 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:08,101 Nightmares so ghastly, so anti-Enlightenment  gave him the shock of 100 Voltaires. 70 00:05:08,744 --> 00:05:15,040 [ PATRICK KELLEY ] Mary came across this map.  It’s this old map of Paris, pre-Haussmann 71 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:22,716 renovation of Paris. The design of this map is an  inspiration for making some of the buildings. 72 00:05:22,716 --> 00:05:28,760 What we thought we would do is try to recreate some  of the architecture that you see in this map, 73 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:36,834 this sort of cartoon-like etching hatch-marking  architecture as three-dimensional models 74 00:05:36,834 --> 00:05:42,040 so that we would have these objects  as possible virtual set elements. 75 00:05:43,754 --> 00:05:46,921 [ REID KELLEY ] It’s so wild that they  had electricity to do this. 76 00:05:46,921 --> 00:05:48,801 - That's the actual Haussmann time? 77 00:05:48,801 --> 00:05:50,546 - Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. 78 00:05:52,067 --> 00:05:56,346 He wouldn’t put electricity  on the streets, he wanted gas on the streets, 79 00:05:56,346 --> 00:05:59,263 cause he thought it was more  aesthetic. 80 00:05:59,263 --> 00:06:01,858 But here, you want to see it? 81 00:06:04,064 --> 00:06:09,361 And here you can see the texture of  the street. It’s like a cobblestone. 82 00:06:09,361 --> 00:06:12,249 - Well yeah, we have that... 83 00:06:12,718 --> 00:06:18,360 [ REID KELLEY ] I think that one of the reasons that  I’m motivated to do research and to do all the 84 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:25,640 reading is that it’s very much a set of values  that learning is good. Books are good. 85 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:27,568 Things in books will help you. 86 00:06:28,343 --> 00:06:32,871 Who knows where it came  from? Probably in large part from my parents. 87 00:06:34,068 --> 00:06:38,995 I grew up in South Carolina. I’m the eldest  of four children. 88 00:06:38,995 --> 00:06:45,147 My next sister is Alice, and then my brother Dan. And  then my youngest sister, Juliet. 89 00:06:48,316 --> 00:06:52,193 My parents met doing their master’s in  history. 90 00:06:53,109 --> 00:07:00,445 My mom and dad or notorious for never just driving by a historical marker, we always pull over to see what it is. 91 00:07:03,379 --> 00:07:10,460 In the South, at least in terms of the Civil  War, there’s this historical burden. 92 00:07:11,822 --> 00:07:16,833 You’re aware pretty early on that there isn’t just one version  that’s accepted, 93 00:07:16,833 --> 00:07:23,731 that people are kind of tugging at this historical record, 94 00:07:23,731 --> 00:07:28,921 you know wanting  to manipulate the history, one way or another. 95 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:35,129 - Okay, that’s good. This shot is really quick.  It’s just a couple seconds. 96 00:07:35,129 --> 00:07:40,000 So run out, put the chairs down. I’ll put the board  on. Hop on it, start doing this and kind 97 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:46,320 of kicking my heels. And then I want both  of you to kind of like lean over the chair. 98 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:51,475 [ REID KELLEY ] The director role is not something  that comes super naturally. 99 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:57,120 I think that’s one of the reasons I really  value getting to work with my family members, 100 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:01,135 it makes it easier for me to ask for what I want. 101 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:06,200 - Okay, good. Now, now when you do  that, like jostle each other like..... 102 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:10,125 - Yeah, like, here, I want the better view, [ laughs ] - I want the better view. 103 00:08:10,125 --> 00:08:11,937 - No, no, I want to get it. - Okay. 104 00:08:11,937 --> 00:08:13,726 [ laughs ] 105 00:08:18,492 --> 00:08:20,490 - Excellent, we got it. Yep. 106 00:08:23,964 --> 00:08:26,920 - Step back and  lay back down so I should see when... 107 00:08:28,117 --> 00:08:32,620 [ REID KELLEY ] The entire concept comes out  of the research and out of the reading. 108 00:08:33,606 --> 00:08:37,248 - See, 'cause I don't have a pillow, it’s  going to make it a lot harder. - Yeah. 109 00:08:37,248 --> 00:08:39,887 [ REID KELLEY ] And it’s my choice of what we do. 110 00:08:39,887 --> 00:08:42,720 - So I think you’re going to  have to bring it around to the side. 111 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,811 [ REID KELLEY ] And then once we’re kind of on the way..... 112 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:52,520 My husband Pat, is very enthusiastic to just  pick up whatever is happening and run with it. 113 00:08:53,013 --> 00:08:55,100 - Do we want to be straight down? 114 00:08:55,701 --> 00:08:57,601 - Uh, yeah. 115 00:08:57,601 --> 00:09:05,880 - Is that about like this? Eric would it be  crazy for me to shoot from that gap right there? 116 00:09:06,561 --> 00:09:09,040 - No, not at all. 117 00:09:09,697 --> 00:09:16,880 [ REID KELLEY ] I never would have made that big  leap from being a painter to something as, 118 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:22,568 as complicated and as technically  involved as, as this work without Pat. 119 00:09:22,834 --> 00:09:28,521 - Secretly, secretly Queen Marie Antoinette  studied her algebra all night in bed. 120 00:09:28,521 --> 00:09:34,233 Scholars remarked that the mathematician her beauty  resolved to make knowledge widespread. 121 00:09:38,646 --> 00:09:41,064 - That was it, yeah. That was great. - Okay. 122 00:09:41,064 --> 00:09:43,064 - Awesome. 123 00:09:43,792 --> 00:09:44,823 - Okay. 124 00:09:46,865 --> 00:09:52,376 Secretly, secretly Queen Marie Antoinette  studied her algebra all night in bed. 125 00:09:52,376 --> 00:09:58,461 Scholars remarked that the mathematician her beauty  resolved to make knowledge widespread. 126 00:10:00,267 --> 00:10:04,160 - After we shoot this and we’ll  shoot that. And then we have a break. 127 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:08,036 Then you guys are just going to have to hang  out, maybe eat another piece of pizza 128 00:10:08,036 --> 00:10:09,866 while I get into Sisyphus. 129 00:10:09,866 --> 00:10:12,885 And then we’ve got a  couple more larger, wider shots. So..... 130 00:10:12,885 --> 00:10:15,654 - We have the baguettes, right? [ overlapping chatter ] - Oh, yes, and the baguettes. 131 00:10:15,654 --> 00:10:17,381 - I baguette you. 132 00:10:17,381 --> 00:10:22,923 - Yes, the dandy outfits,  yeah. So we’re doing good, but we got a lot more to go. 133 00:10:22,923 --> 00:10:26,763 So... [ sighs ] So stay down. 134 00:10:31,693 --> 00:10:36,840 [ REID KELLEY ] I love to put on makeup.  That’s one of my favorite parts of, 135 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:40,998 of making the work, is getting  to, to draw the face on. 136 00:10:42,243 --> 00:10:47,275 My mother never wore makeup and  I was always obsessed with it. 137 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,699 The eyes block out everything. 138 00:10:51,699 --> 00:10:58,958 When I look out of the eyes, I see very little, which is great. 139 00:10:58,958 --> 00:11:07,040 And it’s, it’s helped me do the performance. And I don’t think I could have started performing without them. 140 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,235 - About in the right spot? - Mm-hmm, looks great. 141 00:11:12,465 --> 00:11:13,364 - Okay. 142 00:11:13,364 --> 00:11:18,434 [JULIET ] What exactly is the  title? This syph.... 143 00:11:18,927 --> 00:11:21,801 [ ALICE ] Okay, I always...Sis 144 00:11:21,801 --> 00:11:25,501 [JULIET ] Sisyphus, that’s right? Sisyphus. 145 00:11:25,501 --> 00:11:28,637 [ MICAH ] I’m guessing partially because  it actually rhymes with syphilis. 146 00:11:28,637 --> 00:11:30,267 - Syph...Syph... 147 00:11:30,267 --> 00:11:31,986 - The Syphilis of  Sisyphus. 148 00:11:31,986 --> 00:11:34,532 - No, is that right? [ chuckles ] 149 00:11:34,532 --> 00:11:39,128 [ REID KELLEY ] The title of the new  film is "The Syphilis of Sisyphus." 150 00:11:39,128 --> 00:11:46,198 Most of the, the text from this film is just kind of the extended polemical musings of this woman, 151 00:11:46,198 --> 00:11:51,101 this female character, Sisyphus. She’s a prostitute. 152 00:11:51,101 --> 00:11:53,788 At the beginning we  kind of see her getting ready to go out 153 00:11:53,788 --> 00:11:56,877 and she’s doing her toilet  and putting on her makeup. 154 00:11:57,674 --> 00:12:02,862 - So now remember when she starts, she’s like not mad. 155 00:12:02,862 --> 00:12:05,866 - Right. - She’s, she’s almost sad. 156 00:12:05,866 --> 00:12:12,711 But she’s bitter. She’s not like sweetly sad. She’s  not like resigned sad, she’s bitter sad. 157 00:12:17,054 --> 00:12:20,193 - Pouting sad. - Face right. 158 00:12:20,193 --> 00:12:23,194 - I can actually see my reflection  in the camera, it’s kind of helpful. 159 00:12:23,194 --> 00:12:27,850 - Yeah. [ indistinct speech ] 160 00:12:27,850 --> 00:12:30,844 - That’s so Magritte. I didn’t even think of that till just now. 161 00:12:30,844 --> 00:12:32,950 - [ laughs ] It is. 162 00:12:33,443 --> 00:12:36,360 - It’s like Crazy Kat meets Magritte. 163 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:46,800 Nature sold me a lie. And I’ve kept the deceit  on my face to remind me, her falsehoods repeat 164 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:55,524 like the seasons renew. Same advice every time  because nature can counsel me, nothing but crime. 165 00:12:56,040 --> 00:13:02,320 [ REID KELLEY ] One of the things that I love about encountering  paintings is looking at them over time and coming 166 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:11,760 back and, and viewing it again. So when I  make video works I love the idea of people 167 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:15,640 coming back to them and seeing them over  and over. 168 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:19,718 And always get something new. 169 00:13:20,305 --> 00:13:25,649 Her utopian swindles profess to be cures, but  in fact generations 170 00:13:25,649 --> 00:13:31,331 while smeared with manure as a young naïve milkmaid in apron and braids, 171 00:13:31,331 --> 00:13:38,638 I too was revolting on top of the barricades. Praising the rustic I fell to gourmet 172 00:13:38,638 --> 00:13:42,673 and my radical urges were lost due to negligee. 173 00:13:43,565 --> 00:13:50,405 Shamed by this lapse into luxuries error, I hid  my defections till this happy mirror 174 00:13:50,405 --> 00:13:58,924 revealed a new cause for which Sisyphus shoulders the  burdens of charm crying: Make Beauty Boulder.