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The radical possibilities of man-made DNA

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    All life,
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    every living thing ever,
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    has been built according
    to the information in DNA.
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    What does that mean?
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    Well, it means that just
    as the English language
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    is made up of alphabetic letters
    that, when combined into words,
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    allow me to tell you the story
    I'm going to tell you today,
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    DNA is made up of genetic letters
    that, when combined into genes,
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    allow cells to produce proteins,
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    strings of amino acids that fold up
    into complex structures
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    that perform the functions
    that allow a cell to do what it does,
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    to tell its stories.
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    The English alphabet has 26 letters,
    and the genetic alphabet has four.
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    They're pretty famous.
    Maybe you've heard of them.
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    They are often just referred to
    as G, C, A and T.
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    But it's remarkable that all
    the diversity of life
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    is the result of four genetic letters.
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    Imagine what it would be like
    if the English alphabet had four letters.
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    What sort of stories
    would you be able to tell?
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    What if the genetic alphabet
    had more letters?
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    Would life with more letters
    be able to tell different stories,
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    maybe even more interesting ones?
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    In 1999, my lab at the Scripps
    Research Institute in La Jolla, California
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    started working on this question
    with the goal of creating living organisms
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    with DNA made up of
    a six-letter genetic alphabet,
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    the four natural letters plus two
    additional new man-made letters.
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    Such an organism would be the first
    radically altered form of life
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    ever created.
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    It would be a semi-synthetic form of life
    that stores more information
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    than life ever has before.
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    It would be able to make new proteins,
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    proteins built from more
    than the 20 normal amino acids
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    that are usually used to build proteins.
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    What sort of stories could that life tell?
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    With the power of synthetic chemistry
    and molecular biology
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    and just under 20 years of work,
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    we created bacteria with six-letter DNA.
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    Let me tell you how we did it.
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    All you have to remember
    from your high school biology
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    is that the four natural letters
    pair together to form two base pairs.
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    G pairs with C and A pairs with T,
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    so to create our new letters,
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    we synthesize hundreds of new candidates,
    new candidate letters,
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    and examined their abilities
    to selectively pair with each other.
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    And after about 15 years of work, we found
    two that paired together really well,
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    at least in a test tube.
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    They have complicated names,
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    but let's just called X and Y.
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    The next thing we needed to do
    was find a way to get X and Y into cells,
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    and eventually we found that a protein
    that does something similar in algae
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    worked in our bacteria.
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    So the final thing that we needed to do
    was to show that with X and Y provided,
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    cells could grow and divide
    and hold on to X and Y in their DNA.
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    Everything we had done up to then
    took longer than I had hoped --
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    I am actually a really impatient person --
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    but this, the most important step,
    worked faster than I dreamed,
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    basically immediately.
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    On a weekend in 2014,
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    a graduate student in my lab
    grew bacteria with six-letter DNA.
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    Let me take the opportunity
    to introduce you to them right now.,
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    This is an actual picture of them.
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    These are the first
    semi-synthetic organisms.
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    So bacteria with six-letter DNA,
    that's really cool, right?
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    Well, maybe some of you
    are still wondering why.
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    So let me tell you a little bit more
    about some of our motivations,
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    both conceptual and practical.
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    Conceptually, people have
    thought about life, what it is,
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    what makes it different
    from things that are not alive,
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    since people have had thoughts.
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    Many have interpreted
    life as being perfect,
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    and this was taken
    as evidence of a creator.
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    Living things are different
    because a god breathed life into them.
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    Others have sought
    a more scientific explanation,
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    but I think it's fair to say
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    that they still consider
    the molecules of life to be special.
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    I mean, evolution has been optimizing them
    for billions of years, right?
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    Whatever perspective you take,
    it would seem pretty impossible
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    for chemists to come in
    and build new parts
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    that function within and alongside
    the natural molecules of life
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    without somehow really
    screwing everything up.
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    But just how perfectly
    created or evolved are we?
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    Just how special
    are the molecules of life?
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    These questions have been
    impossible to even ask,
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    because we've had nothing
    to compare life to.
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    Now for the first time, our work suggests
    that maybe the molecules of life
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    aren't that special.
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    Maybe life as we know it
    isn't the only way it could be.
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    Maybe we're not the only solution,
    maybe not even the best solution,
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    just a solution.
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    These questions address
    fundamental issues about life,
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    but maybe they seem a little esoteric.
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    So what about practical motivations?
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    Well, we want to explore
    what sort of new stories
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    life with an expanded
    vocabulary could tell,
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    and remember, stories here
    are the proteins that a cell produces
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    and the functions they have.
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    So what sort of new proteins
    with new types of functions
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    could our semi-synthetic organisms
    make and maybe even use?
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    Well, we have a couple of things in mind.
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    The first is to get the cells
    to make proteins for us, for our use.
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    Proteins are being used today
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    for an increasingly broad
    range of different applications,
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    from materials that protect
    soldiers from injury
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    to devices that detect
    dangerous compounds,
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    but at least to me,
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    the most exciting application
    is protein drugs.
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    Despite being relatively new,
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    protein drugs have already
    revolutionized medicine,
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    and for example insulin is a protein.
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    You've probably heard of it,
    and it's manufactured as a drug
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    that has completely changed
    how we treat diabetes.
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    But the problem is is that proteins
    are really hard to make,
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    and the only practical way to get them
    is to get cells to make them for you.
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    So of course, with natural cells,
    you can only get them to make
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    proteins with the natural amino acids,
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    and so the properties
    those proteins can have,
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    the applications they
    could be developed for,
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    must be limited by the nature
    of those amino acids
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    that the protein's built from.
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    So here they are,
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    the 20 normal amino acids that are
    strung together to make a protein,
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    and I think you can see, they're
    not that different-looking.
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    They don't bring
    that many different functions.
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    They don't make that many
    different functions available.
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    Compare that with the small molecules
    that synthetic chemists make as drugs.
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    Now, they're much simpler than proteins,
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    but they're routinely built from
    a much broader range of diverse things.
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    Don't worry about the molecular details,
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    but I think you can see
    how different they are.
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    And in fact, it's their differences
    that make them great drugs
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    to treat different diseases.
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    So it's really provocative to wonder
    what sort of new protein drugs
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    you could develop if you could build
    proteins from more diverse things.
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    So can we get our semi-synthetic organism
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    to make proteins that include
    new and different amino acids,
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    maybe amino acids selected
    to confer the protein
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    with some desired property or function?
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    For example,
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    many proteins just aren't stable
    when you inject them into people.
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    They are rapidly degraded or eliminated,
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    and this stops them from being drugs.
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    What if we could make proteins
    with new amino acids
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    with things attached to them
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    that protect them from their environment,
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    that protect them from
    being degraded or eliminated,
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    so that they could be better drugs?
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    Could we make proteins
    with little fingers attached
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    that specifically grab on
    to other molecules?
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    Many small molecules fail
    during development as drugs
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    because they just weren't
    specific enough to find their target
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    in the complex environment
    of the human body.
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    So could we take those molecules
    and make them parts of new amino acids
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    that, when incorporated into a protein,
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    are guided by that protein
    to their target?
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    I started a biotech company
    called Synthorx.
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    Synthorx stands for synthetic organism
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    with an X added at the end because
    that's what you do with biotech companies.
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    (Laughter)
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    Synthorx is working closely with my lab,
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    and they're interested in a protein
    that recognizes a certain receptor
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    on the surface of human cells.
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    But the problem is that it also recognizes
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    another receptor on the surface
    of those same cells,
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    and that makes it toxic.
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    So could we produce
    a variant of that protein
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    where the part that interacts
    with that second bad receptor is shielded,
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    blocked by something like a big umbrella
    so that the protein only interacts
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    with that first good receptor?
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    Doing that would be really difficult
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    or impossible to do
    with the normal amino acids,
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    but not with amino acids that are
    specifically designed for that purpose.
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    So getting our semi-synthetic cells
    to act as little factories
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    to produce better protein drugs
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    isn't the only potentially
    really interesting application,
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    because remember, it's the proteins
    that allow cells to do what they do.
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    So if we have cells that make
    new proteins with new functions,
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    could we get them to do things
    that natural cells can't do?
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    For example, could we develop
    semi-synthetic organisms
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    that when injected into a person
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    seek out cancer cells
    and only when they find them
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    secrete a toxic protein that kills them?
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    Could we create bacteria
    that eat different kinds of oil,
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    maybe to clean up an oil spill?
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    These are just a couple
    of the types of stories
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    that we're going to see if life
    with an expanded vocabulary can tell.
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    So, sounds great, right?
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    Injecting semi-synthetic
    organisms into people,
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    dumping millions and millions of gallons
    of our bacteria into the ocean
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    or out on your favorite beach?
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    Oh, wait a minute,
    actually it sounds really scary.
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    This dinosaur is really scary.
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    But here's the catch:
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    our semi-synthetic organisms
    in order to survive
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    need to be fed the chemical
    precursors of X and Y.
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    X and Y are completely different
    than anything that exists in nature.
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    Cells just don't have them
    or the ability to make them.
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    So when we prepare them,
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    when we grow them up in
    the controlled environment of the lab,
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    we can feed them lots
    of the unnatural food.
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    Then, when we deploy them
    in a person or out on a beach
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    where they no longer
    have access that special food,
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    they can grow for a little bit,
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    they can survive for a little,
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    maybe just long enough to perform
    some intended function,
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    but then they start
    to run out of the food.
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    They start to starve.
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    They starve to death,
    and they just disappear.
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    So not only could we get life
    to tell new stories,
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    we get to tell life when and where
    to tell those stories.
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    At the beginning of this talk
    I told you that we reported in 2014
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    the creation of semi-synthetic organisms
    that store more information,
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    X and Y, in their DNA.
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    But all the motivations
    that we just talked about
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    require cells to use X and Y
    to make proteins,
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    so we started working on that.
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    Within a couple years, we showed
    that the cells could take DNA with X and Y
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    and copy it into RNA,
    the working copy of DNA.
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    And late last year,
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    we showed that they could then
    use X and Y to make proteins.
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    Here they are, the stars of the show,
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    the first fully-functional
    semi-synthetic organisms.
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    (Applause)
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    These cells are green because
    they're making a protein that glows green.
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    It's a pretty famous protein
    actually from jellyfish
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    that a lot of people use
    in its natural form
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    because it's easy to see that you made it.
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    But within every one of these proteins,
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    there's a new amino acid that
    natural life can't build proteins with.
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    Every living cell, every living cell ever,
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    has made every one of its proteins
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    using a four-letter genetic alphabet.
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    These cells are living and growing
    and making protein
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    with a six-letter alphabet.
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    These are a new form of life.
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    This is a semi-synthetic form of life.
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    So what about the future?
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    My lab is already working on expanding
    the genetic alphabet of other cells,
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    including human cells,
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    and we're getting ready to start working
    on more complex organisms.
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    Think semi-synthetic worms.
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    The last thing I want to say to you,
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    the most important thing
    that I want to say to you,
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    is that the time
    of semi-synthetic life is here.
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    Thank you.
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    (Applause)
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    Chris Anderson: I mean, Floyd,
    this is so remarkable.
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    I just wanted to ask you,
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    what are the implications of your work
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    for how we should think about
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    the possibilities for life,
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    like, in the universe, elsewhere?
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    It just seems like so much of life,
    or so much of our assumptions are based
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    on the fact that of course
    it's got to be DNA,
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    but is the possibility space
    of self-replicating molecules
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    much bigger than DNA,
    even just DNA with six letters?
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    Floyd Romesberg: Absolutely,
    I think that's right,
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    and I think what our work has shown,
    as I mentioned, is that I think that
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    there's been always this prejudice
    that sort of we're perfect,
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    and we're optimal,
    God created us this way,
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    evolution perfected us this way.
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    We've made molecules that work
    right alongside the natural ones,
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    and I think that suggests
    that any molecules
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    that obey the fundamental laws
    of chemistry and physics
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    and you can optimize them
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    could do the things that
    the natural molecules of life do.
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    There's nothing magic there.
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    And I think that it suggests
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    that life could evolve
    many different ways,
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    maybe similar to us
    with other types of DNA,
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    maybe things without DNA at all.
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    CA: I mean, in your mind,
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    how big might that possibility space be?
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    Do we even know? Are most things going
    to look something like a DNA molecule,
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    or something radically different
    that can still potentially self-reproduce
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    and potentially create living organisms?
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    FR: My personal opinion
    is that if we found new life,
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    we might not even recognize it.
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    CA: So this obsession with the search
    for Goldilocks planets
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    in exactly the right place
    with water and whatever,
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    that's a very parochial
    assumption, perhaps.
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    FR: Well, if you want to find something
    you can talk to, then maybe not,
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    but I think that if you're just
    looking for any form of life,
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    I think that's right, I think that you're
    looking for life under the light post.
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    CA: Thank you for boggling
    all our minds. Thank so much, Floyd.
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    (Applause)
Title:
The radical possibilities of man-made DNA
Speaker:
Floyd E. Romesberg
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