WEBVTT 00:00:01.006 --> 00:00:02.423 All life, 00:00:02.423 --> 00:00:04.122 every living thing ever, 00:00:04.122 --> 00:00:07.440 has been built according to the information in DNA. 00:00:07.440 --> 00:00:08.598 What does that mean? 00:00:08.598 --> 00:00:10.991 Well, it means that just as the English language 00:00:10.991 --> 00:00:14.251 is made up of alphabetic letters that, when combined into words, 00:00:14.251 --> 00:00:16.926 allow me to tell you the story I'm going to tell you today, 00:00:16.926 --> 00:00:21.153 DNA is made up of genetic letters that, when combined into genes, 00:00:21.153 --> 00:00:23.384 allow cells to produce proteins, 00:00:23.384 --> 00:00:26.425 strings of amino acids that fold up into complex structures 00:00:26.425 --> 00:00:29.574 that perform the functions that allow a cell to do what it does, 00:00:29.574 --> 00:00:31.307 to tell its stories. 00:00:31.307 --> 00:00:35.058 The English alphabet has 26 letters, and the genetic alphabet has four. 00:00:35.058 --> 00:00:36.671 They're pretty famous. Maybe you've heard of them. 00:00:36.671 --> 00:00:40.976 They are often just referred to as G, C, A and T. 00:00:40.976 --> 00:00:44.272 But it's remarkable that all the diversity of life 00:00:44.272 --> 00:00:47.570 is the result of four genetic letters. 00:00:47.570 --> 00:00:51.593 Imagine what it would be like if the English alphabet had four letters. 00:00:51.593 --> 00:00:55.556 What sort of stories would you be able to tell? 00:00:55.556 --> 00:00:58.721 What if the genetic alphabet had more letters? 00:00:58.721 --> 00:01:02.702 Would life with more letters be able to tell different stories, 00:01:02.702 --> 00:01:06.910 maybe even more interesting ones? NOTE Paragraph 00:01:06.910 --> 00:01:10.697 In 1999, my lab at the Scripps Research Institute in La Jolla, California 00:01:10.697 --> 00:01:14.221 started working on this question with the goal of creating living organisms 00:01:14.221 --> 00:01:17.555 with DNA made up of a six-letter genetic alphabet, 00:01:17.555 --> 00:01:23.504 the four natural letters plus two additional new man-made letters. 00:01:23.718 --> 00:01:27.216 Such an organism would be the first radically altered form of life 00:01:27.216 --> 00:01:27.653 ever created. 00:01:27.653 --> 00:01:31.745 It would be a semi-synthetic form of life that stores more information 00:01:31.745 --> 00:01:34.434 than life ever has before. 00:01:34.434 --> 00:01:36.323 It would be able to make new proteins, 00:01:36.323 --> 00:01:38.906 proteins built from more than the 20 normal amino acids 00:01:38.906 --> 00:01:41.772 that are usually used to build proteins. 00:01:41.772 --> 00:01:44.789 What sort of stories could that life tell? NOTE Paragraph 00:01:44.789 --> 00:01:48.891 With the power of synthetic chemistry and molecular biology 00:01:48.891 --> 00:01:50.304 and just under 20 years of work, 00:01:50.304 --> 00:01:52.672 we created bacteria with six-letter DNA. 00:01:52.672 --> 00:01:54.871 Let me tell you how we did it. NOTE Paragraph 00:01:54.871 --> 00:01:57.018 All you have to remember from your high school biology 00:01:57.018 --> 00:01:59.330 is that the four natural letters pair together to form two base pairs. 00:01:59.330 --> 00:02:03.329 G pairs with C and A pairs with T, 00:02:03.329 --> 00:02:05.876 so to create our new letters, 00:02:05.876 --> 00:02:08.833 we synthesize hundreds of new candidates, new candidate letters, 00:02:08.833 --> 00:02:11.804 and examined their abilities to selectively pair with each other. 00:02:11.804 --> 00:02:16.021 And after about 15 years of work, we found two that paired together really well, 00:02:16.021 --> 00:02:17.843 at least in a test tube. 00:02:17.843 --> 00:02:20.537 They have complicated names, 00:02:20.537 --> 00:02:22.309 but let's just called X and Y. NOTE Paragraph 00:02:22.309 --> 00:02:25.581 The next thing we needed to do was find a way to get X and Y into cells, 00:02:25.581 --> 00:02:28.870 and eventually we found that a protein that does something similar in algae 00:02:28.870 --> 00:02:30.694 worked in our bacteria. 00:02:30.694 --> 00:02:32.849 So the final thing that we needed to do was to show that with X and Y provided, 00:02:32.849 --> 00:02:34.994 cells could grow and divide and hold on to X and Y in their DNA. 00:02:34.994 --> 00:02:37.469 Everything we had done up to then took longer than I had hoped -- 00:02:37.469 --> 00:02:44.934 I am actually a really impatient person -- 00:02:44.934 --> 00:02:46.589 but this, the most important step, worked faster than I dreamed, 00:02:46.589 --> 00:02:51.653 basically immediately. NOTE Paragraph 00:02:51.653 --> 00:02:55.198 On a weekend in 2014, 00:02:55.198 --> 00:02:58.991 a graduate student in my lab grew bacteria with six-letter DNA. 00:02:58.991 --> 00:03:01.615 Let me take the opportunity to introduce you to them right now., 00:03:01.615 --> 00:03:04.208 This is an actual picture of them. 00:03:04.208 --> 00:03:09.065 These are the first semi-synthetic organisms. NOTE Paragraph 00:03:09.065 --> 00:03:12.627 So bacteria with six-letter DNA, that's really cool, right? 00:03:12.627 --> 00:03:15.737 Well, maybe some of you are still wondering why. 00:03:15.737 --> 00:03:18.317 So let me tell you a little bit more about some of our motivations, 00:03:18.317 --> 00:03:21.074 both conceptual and practical. 00:03:21.074 --> 00:03:23.860 Conceptually, people have thought about life, what it is, 00:03:23.860 --> 00:03:25.937 what makes it different from things that are not alive, 00:03:25.937 --> 00:03:28.192 since people have had thoughts. 00:03:28.192 --> 00:03:31.008 Many have interpreted life as being perfect, 00:03:31.008 --> 00:03:33.035 and this was taken as evidence of a creator. 00:03:33.035 --> 00:03:36.461 Living things are different because a god breathed life into them. 00:03:36.461 --> 00:03:38.766 Others have sought a more scientific explanation, 00:03:38.766 --> 00:03:42.720 but I think it's fair to say 00:03:42.720 --> 00:03:43.388 that they still consider the molecules of life to be special. 00:03:43.388 --> 00:03:46.581 I mean, evolution has been optimizing them for billions of years, right? 00:03:46.581 --> 00:03:48.891 Whatever perspective you take, it would seem pretty impossible 00:03:48.891 --> 00:03:51.051 for chemists to come in and build new parts 00:03:51.051 --> 00:03:54.095 that function within and alongside the natural molecules of life 00:03:54.095 --> 00:03:58.120 without somehow really screwing everything up. 00:03:58.120 --> 00:04:01.763 But just how perfectly created or evolved are we? 00:04:01.763 --> 00:04:04.905 Just how special are the molecules of life? 00:04:04.905 --> 00:04:06.990 These questions have been impossible to even ask, 00:04:06.990 --> 00:04:10.330 because we've had nothing to compare life to. 00:04:10.330 --> 00:04:13.246 Now for the first time, our work suggests that maybe the molecules of life 00:04:13.246 --> 00:04:15.014 aren't that special. 00:04:15.014 --> 00:04:19.309 Maybe life as we know it isn't the only way it could be. 00:04:19.309 --> 00:04:22.166 Maybe we're not the only solution, maybe not even the best solution, 00:04:22.166 --> 00:04:25.221 just a solution. NOTE Paragraph 00:04:25.221 --> 00:04:28.554 These questions address fundamental issues about life, 00:04:28.554 --> 00:04:30.079 but maybe they seem a little esoteric. 00:04:30.079 --> 00:04:31.621 So what about practical motivations? 00:04:31.621 --> 00:04:34.593 Well, we want to explore what sort of new stories 00:04:34.593 --> 00:04:36.931 life with an expanded vocabulary could tell, 00:04:36.931 --> 00:04:40.294 and remember, stories here are the proteins that a cell produces 00:04:40.294 --> 00:04:41.707 and the functions they have. 00:04:41.707 --> 00:04:44.411 So what sort of new proteins with new types of functions 00:04:44.411 --> 00:04:48.474 could our semi-synthetic organisms make and maybe even use? 00:04:48.474 --> 00:04:51.484 Well, we have a couple of things in mind. NOTE Paragraph 00:04:51.484 --> 00:04:56.146 The first is to get the cells to make proteins for us, for our use. 00:04:56.146 --> 00:04:58.324 Proteins are being used today 00:04:58.324 --> 00:05:00.046 for an increasingly broad range of different applications, 00:05:00.046 --> 00:05:02.478 from materials that protect soldiers from injury 00:05:02.478 --> 00:05:04.832 to devices that detect dangerous compounds, 00:05:04.832 --> 00:05:06.011 but at least to me, 00:05:06.011 --> 00:05:09.003 the most exciting application is protein drugs. 00:05:09.425 --> 00:05:10.851 Despite being relatively new, 00:05:10.851 --> 00:05:13.082 protein drugs have already revolutionized medicine, 00:05:13.082 --> 00:05:15.967 and for example insulin is a protein. 00:05:15.967 --> 00:05:18.567 You've probably heard of it, and it's manufactured as a drug 00:05:18.567 --> 00:05:21.410 that has completely changed how we treat diabetes. 00:05:21.410 --> 00:05:24.531 But the problem is is that proteins are really hard to make, 00:05:24.531 --> 00:05:28.500 and the only practical way to get them is to get cells to make them for you. 00:05:28.500 --> 00:05:32.479 So of course, with natural cells, you can only get them to make 00:05:32.479 --> 00:05:34.516 proteins with the natural amino acids, 00:05:34.516 --> 00:05:36.535 and so the properties those proteins can have, 00:05:36.535 --> 00:05:38.676 the applications they could be developed for, 00:05:38.676 --> 00:05:41.520 must be limited by the nature of those amino acids 00:05:41.520 --> 00:05:43.194 that the protein's built from. 00:05:43.194 --> 00:05:44.358 So here they are, 00:05:44.358 --> 00:05:47.172 the 20 normal amino acids that are strung together to make a protein, 00:05:47.172 --> 00:05:50.069 and I think you can see, they're not that different-looking. 00:05:50.069 --> 00:05:51.847 They don't bring that many different functions. 00:05:51.847 --> 00:05:53.919 They don't make that many different functions available. 00:05:53.919 --> 00:05:58.155 Compare that with the small molecules that synthetic chemists make as drugs. 00:05:58.155 --> 00:06:00.874 Now, they're much simpler than proteins, 00:06:00.874 --> 00:06:03.832 but they're routinely built from a much broader range of diverse things. 00:06:03.832 --> 00:06:05.490 Don't worry about the molecular details, 00:06:05.490 --> 00:06:07.540 but I think you can see how different they are. 00:06:07.540 --> 00:06:10.819 And in fact, it's their differences that make them great drugs 00:06:10.819 --> 00:06:12.962 to treat different diseases. 00:06:12.962 --> 00:06:17.169 So it's really provocative to wonder what sort of new protein drugs 00:06:17.169 --> 00:06:21.326 you could develop if you could build proteins from more diverse things. NOTE Paragraph 00:06:21.326 --> 00:06:23.990 So can we get our semi-synthetic organism 00:06:23.990 --> 00:06:27.335 to make proteins that include new and different amino acids, 00:06:27.335 --> 00:06:29.435 maybe amino acids selected to confer the protein 00:06:29.435 --> 00:06:31.877 with some desired property or function? 00:06:31.877 --> 00:06:34.230 For example, 00:06:34.230 --> 00:06:37.323 many proteins just aren't stable when you inject them into people. 00:06:37.323 --> 00:06:40.460 They are rapidly degraded or eliminated, 00:06:40.460 --> 00:06:42.018 and this stops them from being drugs. 00:06:42.018 --> 00:06:44.361 What if we could make proteins with new amino acids 00:06:44.361 --> 00:06:45.990 with things attached to them 00:06:45.990 --> 00:06:48.537 that protect them from their environment, 00:06:48.537 --> 00:06:51.625 that protect them from being degraded or eliminated, 00:06:51.625 --> 00:06:54.060 so that they could be better drugs? 00:06:54.060 --> 00:06:58.016 Could we make proteins with little fingers attached 00:06:58.016 --> 00:07:01.066 that specifically grab on to other molecules? 00:07:01.066 --> 00:07:04.239 Many small molecules fail during development as drugs 00:07:04.239 --> 00:07:07.009 because they just weren't specific enough to find their target 00:07:07.009 --> 00:07:09.533 in the complex environment of the human body. 00:07:09.533 --> 00:07:13.176 So could we take those molecules and make them parts of new amino acids 00:07:13.176 --> 00:07:15.406 that, when incorporated into a protein, 00:07:15.406 --> 00:07:18.890 are guided by that protein to their target? NOTE Paragraph 00:07:20.139 --> 00:07:22.576 I started a biotech company called Synthorx. 00:07:22.576 --> 00:07:25.089 Synthorx stands for synthetic organism 00:07:25.089 --> 00:07:28.800 with an X added at the end because that's what you do with biotech companies. NOTE Paragraph 00:07:28.800 --> 00:07:30.242 (Laughter) NOTE Paragraph 00:07:30.242 --> 00:07:32.552 Synthorx is working closely with my lab, 00:07:32.552 --> 00:07:36.629 and they're interested in a protein that recognizes a certain receptor 00:07:36.629 --> 00:07:38.396 on the surface of human cells. 00:07:38.396 --> 00:07:40.805 But the problem is that it also recognizes 00:07:40.805 --> 00:07:43.640 another receptor on the surface of those same cells, 00:07:43.640 --> 00:07:46.057 and that makes it toxic. 00:07:46.057 --> 00:07:48.069 So could we produce a variant of that protein 00:07:48.069 --> 00:07:52.209 where the part that interacts with that second bad receptor is shielded, 00:07:52.209 --> 00:07:55.566 blocked by something like a big umbrella so that the protein only interacts 00:07:55.566 --> 00:07:57.753 with that first good receptor? 00:07:57.753 --> 00:07:59.944 Doing that would be really difficult 00:07:59.944 --> 00:08:02.192 or impossible to do with the normal amino acids, 00:08:02.192 --> 00:08:06.217 but not with amino acids that are specifically designed for that purpose. NOTE Paragraph 00:08:06.217 --> 00:08:11.825 So getting our semi-synthetic cells to act as little factories 00:08:11.825 --> 00:08:13.277 to produce better protein drugs 00:08:13.277 --> 00:08:15.943 isn't the only potentially really interesting application, 00:08:15.943 --> 00:08:19.946 because remember, it's the proteins that allow cells to do what they do. 00:08:19.946 --> 00:08:23.795 So if we have cells that make new proteins with new functions, 00:08:23.795 --> 00:08:27.491 could we get them to do things that natural cells can't do? 00:08:27.491 --> 00:08:30.348 For example, could we develop semi-synthetic organisms 00:08:31.220 --> 00:08:33.094 that when injected into a person 00:08:33.094 --> 00:08:35.609 seek out cancer cells and only when they find them 00:08:35.609 --> 00:08:38.505 secrete a toxic protein that kills them? 00:08:38.505 --> 00:08:41.627 Could we create bacteria that eat different kinds of oil, 00:08:41.627 --> 00:08:43.583 maybe to clean up an oil spill? 00:08:43.583 --> 00:08:45.907 These are just a couple of the types of stories 00:08:45.907 --> 00:08:48.754 that we're going to see if life with an expanded vocabulary can tell. NOTE Paragraph 00:08:48.754 --> 00:08:50.276 So, sounds great, right? 00:08:50.276 --> 00:08:53.490 Injecting semi-synthetic organisms into people, 00:08:53.490 --> 00:08:56.711 dumping millions and millions of gallons of our bacteria into the ocean 00:08:56.711 --> 00:08:58.386 or out on your favorite beach? 00:08:58.386 --> 00:09:00.776 Oh, wait a minute, actually it sounds really scary. 00:09:00.776 --> 00:09:04.337 This dinosaur is really scary. 00:09:04.747 --> 00:09:06.491 But here's the catch: 00:09:06.491 --> 00:09:10.095 our semi-synthetic organisms in order to survive 00:09:10.095 --> 00:09:14.102 need to be fed the chemical precursors of X and Y. 00:09:14.102 --> 00:09:17.765 X and Y are completely different than anything that exists in nature. 00:09:17.765 --> 00:09:21.747 Cells just don't have them or the ability to make them. 00:09:21.747 --> 00:09:23.217 So when we prepare them, 00:09:23.217 --> 00:09:24.954 when we grow them up in the controlled environment of the lab, 00:09:24.954 --> 00:09:27.608 we can feed them lots of the unnatural food. 00:09:27.608 --> 00:09:31.595 Then, when we deploy them in a person or out on a beach 00:09:31.595 --> 00:09:34.319 where they no longer have access that special food, 00:09:34.319 --> 00:09:36.380 they can grow for a little bit, 00:09:36.380 --> 00:09:37.666 they can survive for a little, 00:09:37.666 --> 00:09:41.032 maybe just long enough to perform some intended function, 00:09:41.032 --> 00:09:43.151 but then they start to run out of the food. 00:09:43.151 --> 00:09:44.564 They start to starve. 00:09:44.564 --> 00:09:47.779 They starve to death, and they just disappear. 00:09:47.779 --> 00:09:50.233 So not only could we get life to tell new stories, 00:09:50.233 --> 00:09:54.124 we get to tell life when and where to tell those stories. NOTE Paragraph 00:09:54.124 --> 00:09:58.711 At the beginning of this talk I told you that we reported in 2014 00:09:58.711 --> 00:10:02.223 the creation of semi-synthetic organisms that store more information, 00:10:02.223 --> 00:10:04.077 X and Y, in their DNA. 00:10:04.077 --> 00:10:06.395 But all the motivations that we just talked about 00:10:06.395 --> 00:10:09.341 require cells to use X and Y to make proteins, 00:10:09.341 --> 00:10:11.959 so we started working on that. 00:10:11.959 --> 00:10:15.641 Within a couple years, we showed that the cells could take DNA with X and Y 00:10:15.641 --> 00:10:17.294 and copy it into RNA, the working copy of DNA. 00:10:17.294 --> 00:10:20.971 And late last year, 00:10:20.971 --> 00:10:24.706 we showed that they could then use X and Y to make proteins. 00:10:24.706 --> 00:10:27.141 Here they are, the stars of the show, 00:10:27.141 --> 00:10:31.631 the first fully-functional semi-synthetic organisms. NOTE Paragraph 00:10:31.631 --> 00:10:35.067 (Applause) NOTE Paragraph 00:10:37.146 --> 00:10:41.170 These cells are green because they're making a protein that glows green. 00:10:41.170 --> 00:10:43.906 It's a pretty famous protein actually from jellyfish 00:10:43.906 --> 00:10:46.072 that a lot of people use in its natural form 00:10:46.072 --> 00:10:49.034 because it's easy to see that you made it. 00:10:49.034 --> 00:10:51.407 But within every one of these proteins, 00:10:51.407 --> 00:10:56.954 there's a new amino acid that natural life can't build proteins with. 00:10:56.954 --> 00:11:02.168 Every living cell, every living cell ever, 00:11:02.168 --> 00:11:04.823 has made every one of its proteins 00:11:04.823 --> 00:11:07.973 using a four-letter genetic alphabet. 00:11:07.973 --> 00:11:12.117 These cells are living and growing and making protein 00:11:12.117 --> 00:11:14.094 with a six-letter alphabet. 00:11:14.094 --> 00:11:16.538 These are a new form of life. 00:11:16.538 --> 00:11:20.071 This is a semi-synthetic form of life. NOTE Paragraph 00:11:20.071 --> 00:11:21.928 So what about the future? 00:11:21.928 --> 00:11:24.856 My lab is already working on expanding the genetic alphabet of other cells, 00:11:24.856 --> 00:11:26.382 including human cells, 00:11:26.382 --> 00:11:29.835 and we're getting ready to start working on more complex organisms. 00:11:29.835 --> 00:11:33.514 Think semi-synthetic worms. NOTE Paragraph 00:11:33.514 --> 00:11:35.516 The last thing I want to say to you, 00:11:35.516 --> 00:11:37.797 the most important thing that I want to say to you, 00:11:37.797 --> 00:11:40.863 is that the time of semi-synthetic life is here. NOTE Paragraph 00:11:40.863 --> 00:11:42.376 Thank you. NOTE Paragraph 00:11:42.376 --> 00:11:44.913 (Applause) NOTE Paragraph 00:11:50.445 --> 00:11:55.895 Chris Anderson: I mean, Floyd, this is so remarkable. 00:11:55.895 --> 00:11:57.815 I just wanted to ask you, 00:11:57.815 --> 00:12:01.142 what are the implications of your work 00:12:01.142 --> 00:12:03.535 for how we should think about 00:12:03.535 --> 00:12:05.928 the possibilities for life, 00:12:05.928 --> 00:12:07.869 like, in the universe, elsewhere? 00:12:07.869 --> 00:12:10.029 It just seems like so much of life, or so much of our assumptions are based 00:12:10.029 --> 00:12:14.599 on the fact that of course it's got to be DNA, 00:12:14.599 --> 00:12:19.053 but is the possibility space of self-replicating molecules 00:12:19.053 --> 00:12:22.189 much bigger than DNA, even just DNA with six letters? NOTE Paragraph 00:12:22.189 --> 00:12:24.087 Floyd Romesberg: Absolutely, I think that's right, 00:12:24.087 --> 00:12:26.764 and I think what our work has shown, as I mentioned, is that I think that 00:12:26.764 --> 00:12:30.769 there's been always this prejudice that sort of we're perfect, 00:12:30.769 --> 00:12:33.687 and we're optimal, God created us this way, 00:12:33.687 --> 00:12:36.166 evolution perfected us this way. 00:12:36.166 --> 00:12:39.865 We've made molecules that work right alongside the natural ones, 00:12:39.865 --> 00:12:43.821 and I think that suggests that any molecules 00:12:43.821 --> 00:12:46.760 that obey the fundamental laws of chemistry and physics 00:12:46.760 --> 00:12:48.578 and you can optimize them 00:12:48.578 --> 00:12:50.382 could do the things that the natural molecules of life do. 00:12:50.382 --> 00:12:52.439 There's nothing magic there. 00:12:52.439 --> 00:12:54.084 And I think that it suggests 00:12:54.084 --> 00:12:55.781 that life could evolve many different ways, 00:12:55.781 --> 00:12:58.803 maybe similar to us with other types of DNA, 00:12:58.803 --> 00:13:00.939 maybe things without DNA at all. NOTE Paragraph 00:13:00.939 --> 00:13:02.645 CA: I mean, in your mind, 00:13:02.645 --> 00:13:06.055 how big might that possibility space be? 00:13:06.055 --> 00:13:08.997 Do we even know? Are most things going to look something like a DNA molecule, 00:13:08.997 --> 00:13:12.790 or something radically different that can still potentially self-reproduce 00:13:12.790 --> 00:13:14.285 and potentially create living organisms? NOTE Paragraph 00:13:14.285 --> 00:13:16.867 FR: My personal opinion is that if we found new life, 00:13:16.867 --> 00:13:18.697 we might not even recognize it. NOTE Paragraph 00:13:18.697 --> 00:13:22.047 CA: So this obsession with the search for Goldilocks planets 00:13:22.047 --> 00:13:24.649 in exactly the right place with water and whatever, 00:13:24.649 --> 00:13:27.126 that's a very parochial assumption, perhaps. NOTE Paragraph 00:13:27.126 --> 00:13:29.472 FR: Well, if you want to find something you can talk to, then maybe not, 00:13:29.472 --> 00:13:33.301 but I think that if you're just looking for any form of life, 00:13:33.301 --> 00:13:37.305 I think that's right, I think that you're looking for life under the light post. NOTE Paragraph 00:13:37.305 --> 00:13:40.881 CA: Thank you for boggling all our minds. Thank so much, Floyd. NOTE Paragraph 00:13:40.881 --> 00:13:43.131 (Applause)