The radical possibilities of man-made DNA
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0:01 - 0:02All life,
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0:02 - 0:04every living thing ever,
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0:04 - 0:07has been built according
to the information in DNA. -
0:07 - 0:08What does that mean?
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0:08 - 0:11Well, it means that just
as the English language -
0:11 - 0:14is made up of alphabetic letters
that, when combined into words, -
0:14 - 0:17allow me to tell you the story
I'm going to tell you today, -
0:17 - 0:21DNA is made up of genetic letters
that, when combined into genes, -
0:21 - 0:23allow cells to produce proteins,
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0:23 - 0:26strings of amino acids
that fold up into complex structures -
0:26 - 0:29that perform the functions
that allow a cell to do what it does, -
0:29 - 0:31to tell its stories.
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0:31 - 0:35The English alphabet has 26 letters,
and the genetic alphabet has four. -
0:35 - 0:37They're pretty famous.
Maybe you've heard of them. -
0:37 - 0:39They are often just
referred to as G, C, A and T. -
0:41 - 0:44But it's remarkable
that all the diversity of life -
0:44 - 0:46is the result of four genetic letters.
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0:47 - 0:51Imagine what it would be like
if the English alphabet had four letters. -
0:51 - 0:54What sort of stories
would you be able to tell? -
0:55 - 0:57What if the genetic alphabet
had more letters? -
0:59 - 1:02Would life with more letters
be able to tell different stories, -
1:02 - 1:04maybe even more interesting ones?
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1:06 - 1:10In 1999, my lab at the Scripps
Research Institute in La Jolla, California -
1:10 - 1:14started working on this question
with the goal of creating living organisms -
1:14 - 1:17with DNA made up
of a six-letter genetic alphabet, -
1:17 - 1:22the four natural letters
plus two additional new man-made letters. -
1:23 - 1:24Such an organism would be
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1:24 - 1:27the first radically altered
form of life ever created. -
1:27 - 1:29It would be a semisynthetic form of life
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1:29 - 1:33that stores more information
than life ever has before. -
1:34 - 1:36It would be able to make new proteins,
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1:36 - 1:39proteins built from more
than the 20 normal amino acids -
1:39 - 1:41that are usually used to build proteins.
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1:42 - 1:44What sort of stories could that life tell?
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1:45 - 1:48With the power of synthetic chemistry
and molecular biology -
1:48 - 1:50and just under 20 years of work,
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1:50 - 1:52we created bacteria with six-letter DNA.
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1:52 - 1:54Let me tell you how we did it.
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1:55 - 1:57All you have to remember
from your high school biology -
1:57 - 2:01is that the four natural letters
pair together to form two base pairs. -
2:01 - 2:03G pairs with C and A pairs with T,
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2:03 - 2:05so to create our new letters,
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2:05 - 2:08we synthesized hundreds of new candidates,
new candidate letters, -
2:08 - 2:11and examined their abilities
to selectively pair with each other. -
2:11 - 2:13And after about 15 years of work,
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2:13 - 2:16we found two that paired
together really well, -
2:16 - 2:17at least in a test tube.
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2:18 - 2:19They have complicated names,
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2:19 - 2:21but let's just call them X and Y.
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2:22 - 2:25The next thing we needed to do
was find a way to get X and Y into cells, -
2:25 - 2:29and eventually we found that a protein
that does something similar in algae -
2:29 - 2:30worked in our bacteria.
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2:30 - 2:35So the final thing that we needed to do
was to show that with X and Y provided, -
2:35 - 2:38cells could grow and divide
and hold on to X and Y in their DNA. -
2:40 - 2:43Everything we had done up to then
took longer than I had hoped -- -
2:43 - 2:45I am actually a really impatient person --
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2:45 - 2:49but this, the most important step,
worked faster than I dreamed, -
2:50 - 2:51basically immediately.
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2:53 - 2:55On a weekend in 2014,
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2:55 - 2:58a graduate student in my lab
grew bacteria with six-letter DNA. -
2:59 - 3:02Let me take the opportunity
to introduce you to them right now. -
3:02 - 3:03This is an actual picture of them.
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3:05 - 3:07These are the first
semisynthetic organisms. -
3:09 - 3:12So bacteria with six-letter DNA,
that's really cool, right? -
3:12 - 3:15Well, maybe some of you
are still wondering why. -
3:16 - 3:19So let me tell you a little bit more
about some of our motivations, -
3:19 - 3:21both conceptual and practical.
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3:21 - 3:24Conceptually, people have
thought about life, what it is, -
3:24 - 3:26what makes it different
from things that are not alive, -
3:26 - 3:28since people have had thoughts.
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3:28 - 3:30Many have interpreted
life as being perfect, -
3:30 - 3:33and this was taken
as evidence of a creator. -
3:33 - 3:36Living things are different
because a god breathed life into them. -
3:36 - 3:39Others have sought
a more scientific explanation, -
3:39 - 3:40but I think it's fair to say
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3:40 - 3:43that they still consider
the molecules of life to be special. -
3:43 - 3:46I mean, evolution has been optimizing them
for billions of years, right? -
3:47 - 3:49Whatever perspective you take,
it would seem pretty impossible -
3:49 - 3:51for chemists to come in
and build new parts -
3:52 - 3:55that function within and alongside
the natural molecules of life -
3:55 - 3:57without somehow
really screwing everything up. -
3:58 - 4:01But just how perfectly
created or evolved are we? -
4:01 - 4:04Just how special
are the molecules of life? -
4:05 - 4:07These questions have been
impossible to even ask, -
4:07 - 4:09because we've had nothing
to compare life to. -
4:10 - 4:12Now for the first time, our work suggests
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4:12 - 4:15that maybe the molecules of life
aren't that special. -
4:15 - 4:18Maybe life as we know it
isn't the only way it could be. -
4:19 - 4:22Maybe we're not the only solution,
maybe not even the best solution, -
4:22 - 4:24just a solution.
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4:26 - 4:28These questions address
fundamental issues about life, -
4:28 - 4:30but maybe they seem a little esoteric.
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4:30 - 4:32So what about practical motivations?
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4:32 - 4:35Well, we want to explore
what sort of new stories -
4:35 - 4:37life with an expanded
vocabulary could tell, -
4:37 - 4:40and remember, stories here
are the proteins that a cell produces -
4:40 - 4:41and the functions they have.
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4:41 - 4:44So what sort of new proteins
with new types of functions -
4:45 - 4:48could our semisynthetic organisms
make and maybe even use? -
4:48 - 4:50Well, we have a couple of things in mind.
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4:51 - 4:56The first is to get the cells
to make proteins for us, for our use. -
4:56 - 4:57Proteins are being used today
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4:57 - 5:00for an increasingly broad
range of different applications, -
5:00 - 5:02from materials that protect
soldiers from injury -
5:02 - 5:05to devices that detect
dangerous compounds, -
5:05 - 5:06but at least to me,
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5:06 - 5:08the most exciting application
is protein drugs. -
5:09 - 5:11Despite being relatively new,
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5:11 - 5:13protein drugs have already
revolutionized medicine, -
5:13 - 5:16and, for example, insulin is a protein.
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5:16 - 5:19You've probably heard of it,
and it's manufactured as a drug -
5:19 - 5:21that has completely changed
how we treat diabetes. -
5:21 - 5:24But the problem is that proteins
are really hard to make -
5:24 - 5:28and the only practical way to get them
is to get cells to make them for you. -
5:29 - 5:31So of course, with natural cells,
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5:31 - 5:34you can only get them to make
proteins with the natural amino acids, -
5:34 - 5:36and so the properties
those proteins can have, -
5:36 - 5:39the applications
they could be developed for, -
5:39 - 5:41must be limited by the nature
of those amino acids -
5:41 - 5:43that the protein's built from.
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5:43 - 5:44So here they are,
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5:44 - 5:47the 20 normal amino acids that are
strung together to make a protein, -
5:47 - 5:50and I think you can see,
they're not that different-looking. -
5:50 - 5:53They don't bring
that many different functions. -
5:53 - 5:55They don't make that many
different functions available. -
5:55 - 5:59Compare that with the small molecules
that synthetic chemists make as drugs. -
5:59 - 6:01Now, they're much simpler than proteins,
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6:01 - 6:04but they're routinely built from
a much broader range of diverse things. -
6:04 - 6:06Don't worry about the molecular details,
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6:06 - 6:08but I think you can see
how different they are. -
6:08 - 6:11And in fact, it's their differences
that make them great drugs -
6:11 - 6:13to treat different diseases.
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6:13 - 6:17So it's really provocative to wonder
what sort of new protein drugs -
6:17 - 6:20you could develop if you could build
proteins from more diverse things. -
6:22 - 6:24So can we get our semisynthetic organism
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6:24 - 6:27to make proteins that include
new and different amino acids, -
6:27 - 6:29maybe amino acids
selected to confer the protein -
6:29 - 6:31with some desired property or function?
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6:33 - 6:34For example,
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6:34 - 6:37many proteins just aren't stable
when you inject them into people. -
6:37 - 6:39They are rapidly degraded or eliminated,
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6:39 - 6:41and this stops them from being drugs.
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6:42 - 6:44What if we could make proteins
with new amino acids -
6:45 - 6:46with things attached to them
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6:46 - 6:48that protect them from their environment,
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6:48 - 6:52that protect them
from being degraded or eliminated, -
6:52 - 6:53so that they could be better drugs?
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6:56 - 6:58Could we make proteins
with little fingers attached -
6:58 - 7:00that specifically
grab on to other molecules? -
7:01 - 7:04Many small molecules
failed during development as drugs -
7:04 - 7:07because they just weren't
specific enough to find their target -
7:07 - 7:09in the complex environment
of the human body. -
7:09 - 7:13So could we take those molecules
and make them parts of new amino acids -
7:13 - 7:16that, when incorporated into a protein,
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7:16 - 7:18are guided by that protein
to their target? -
7:20 - 7:22I started a biotech company
called Synthorx. -
7:22 - 7:25Synthorx stands for synthetic organism
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7:25 - 7:29with an X added at the end because
that's what you do with biotech companies. -
7:29 - 7:30(Laughter)
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7:30 - 7:32Synthorx is working closely with my lab,
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7:32 - 7:36and they're interested in a protein
that recognizes a certain receptor -
7:36 - 7:38on the surface of human cells.
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7:38 - 7:41But the problem is that it also recognizes
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7:41 - 7:43another receptor on the surface
of those same cells, -
7:43 - 7:45and that makes it toxic.
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7:46 - 7:48So could we produce
a variant of that protein -
7:48 - 7:52where the part that interacts
with that second bad receptor is shielded, -
7:52 - 7:54blocked by something like a big umbrella
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7:54 - 7:57so that the protein only interacts
with that first good receptor? -
7:59 - 8:00Doing that would be really difficult
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8:00 - 8:03or impossible to do
with the normal amino acids, -
8:03 - 8:06but not with amino acids that are
specifically designed for that purpose. -
8:09 - 8:12So getting our semisynthetic cells
to act as little factories -
8:12 - 8:13to produce better protein drugs
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8:13 - 8:16isn't the only potentially
really interesting application, -
8:16 - 8:19because remember, it's the proteins
that allow cells to do what they do. -
8:20 - 8:24So if we have cells that make
new proteins with new functions, -
8:24 - 8:27could we get them to do things
that natural cells can't do? -
8:27 - 8:30For example, could we develop
semisynthetic organisms -
8:30 - 8:34that when injected into a person,
seek out cancer cells -
8:34 - 8:38and only when they find them,
secrete a toxic protein that kills them? -
8:38 - 8:41Could we create bacteria
that eat different kinds of oil, -
8:41 - 8:43maybe to clean up an oil spill?
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8:43 - 8:45These are just a couple
of the types of stories -
8:46 - 8:49that we're going to see if life
with an expanded vocabulary can tell. -
8:49 - 8:50So, sounds great, right?
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8:50 - 8:53Injecting semisynthetic
organisms into people, -
8:53 - 8:57dumping millions and millions of gallons
of our bacteria into the ocean -
8:57 - 8:58or out on your favorite beach?
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8:58 - 9:01Oh, wait a minute,
actually it sounds really scary. -
9:01 - 9:03This dinosaur is really scary.
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9:04 - 9:06But here's the catch:
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9:06 - 9:10our semisynthetic organisms
in order to survive, -
9:10 - 9:13need to be fed the chemical
precursors of X and Y. -
9:14 - 9:17X and Y are completely different
than anything that exists in nature. -
9:18 - 9:21Cells just don't have them
or the ability to make them. -
9:22 - 9:23So when we prepare them,
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9:23 - 9:26when we grow them up
in the controlled environment of the lab, -
9:26 - 9:28we can feed them
lots of the unnatural food. -
9:28 - 9:31Then, when we deploy them
in a person or out on a beach -
9:31 - 9:34where they no longer
have access that special food, -
9:34 - 9:37they can grow for a little bit,
they can survive for a little, -
9:37 - 9:41maybe just long enough
to perform some intended function, -
9:41 - 9:43but then they start
to run out of the food. -
9:43 - 9:44They start to starve.
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9:44 - 9:46They starve to death
and they just disappear. -
9:47 - 9:50So not only could we get life
to tell new stories, -
9:50 - 9:53we get to tell life when and where
to tell those stories. -
9:55 - 9:59At the beginning of this talk
I told you that we reported in 2014 -
9:59 - 10:02the creation of semisynthetic organisms
that store more information, -
10:02 - 10:04X and Y, in their DNA.
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10:04 - 10:06But all the motivations
that we just talked about -
10:06 - 10:09require cells to use X and Y
to make proteins, -
10:09 - 10:11so we started working on that.
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10:12 - 10:15Within a couple years, we showed
that the cells could take DNA with X and Y -
10:15 - 10:18and copy it into RNA,
the working copy of DNA. -
10:20 - 10:21And late last year,
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10:21 - 10:25we showed that they could then
use X and Y to make proteins. -
10:25 - 10:27Here they are, the stars of the show,
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10:27 - 10:31the first fully-functional
semisynthetic organisms. -
10:32 - 10:36(Applause)
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10:38 - 10:42These cells are green because
they're making a protein that glows green. -
10:42 - 10:44It's a pretty famous protein,
actually, from jellyfish -
10:44 - 10:46that a lot of people use
in its natural form -
10:46 - 10:48because it's easy to see that you made it.
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10:49 - 10:51But within every one of these proteins,
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10:51 - 10:55there's a new amino acid that
natural life can't build proteins with. -
10:57 - 11:01Every living cell, every living cell ever,
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11:02 - 11:05has made every one of its proteins
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11:05 - 11:07using a four-letter genetic alphabet.
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11:08 - 11:12These cells are living and growing
and making protein -
11:12 - 11:14with a six-letter alphabet.
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11:14 - 11:15These are a new form of life.
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11:16 - 11:19This is a semisynthetic form of life.
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11:20 - 11:22So what about the future?
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11:22 - 11:25My lab is already working on expanding
the genetic alphabet of other cells, -
11:25 - 11:26including human cells,
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11:26 - 11:30and we're getting ready to start working
on more complex organisms. -
11:30 - 11:32Think semisynthetic worms.
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11:33 - 11:35The last thing I want to say to you,
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11:35 - 11:38the most important thing
that I want to say to you, -
11:38 - 11:40is that the time
of semisynthetic life is here. -
11:41 - 11:42Thank you.
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11:42 - 11:47(Applause)
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11:53 - 11:56Chris Anderson: I mean,
Floyd, this is so remarkable. -
11:56 - 11:59I just wanted to ask you,
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11:59 - 12:01what are the implications of your work
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12:01 - 12:05for how we should think
about the possibilities for life, -
12:05 - 12:07like, in the universe, elsewhere?
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12:07 - 12:12It just seems like so much of life,
or so much of our assumptions are based -
12:12 - 12:14on the fact that of course,
it's got to be DNA, -
12:14 - 12:19but is the possibility space
of self-replicating molecules -
12:19 - 12:22much bigger than DNA,
even just DNA with six letters? -
12:22 - 12:24Floyd Romesberg:
Absolutely, I think that's right, -
12:24 - 12:26and I think what our work has shown,
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12:26 - 12:30as I mentioned, is that
there's been always this prejudice -
12:30 - 12:31that sort of we're perfect,
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12:31 - 12:34we're optimal, God created us this way,
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12:34 - 12:36evolution perfected us this way.
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12:36 - 12:39We've made molecules that work
right alongside the natural ones, -
12:40 - 12:44and I think that suggests
that any molecules -
12:44 - 12:46that obey the fundamental laws
of chemistry and physics -
12:46 - 12:48and you can optimize them
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12:48 - 12:50could do the things that
the natural molecules of life do. -
12:50 - 12:52There's nothing magic there.
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12:52 - 12:54And I think that it suggests
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12:54 - 12:56that life could evolve
many different ways, -
12:56 - 12:58maybe similar to us
with other types of DNA, -
12:59 - 13:00maybe things without DNA at all.
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13:01 - 13:02CA: I mean, in your mind,
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13:02 - 13:06how big might that possibility space be?
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13:06 - 13:09Do we even know? Are most things going
to look something like a DNA molecule, -
13:09 - 13:12or something radically different
that can still self-reproduce -
13:12 - 13:14and potentially create living organisms?
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13:14 - 13:17FR: My personal opinion
is that if we found new life, -
13:17 - 13:19we might not even recognize it.
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13:19 - 13:22CA: So this obsession
with the search for Goldilocks planets -
13:22 - 13:24in exactly the right place
with water and whatever, -
13:25 - 13:27that's a very parochial
assumption, perhaps. -
13:27 - 13:30FR: Well, if you want to find someone
you can talk to, then maybe not, -
13:30 - 13:33but I think that if you're just
looking for any form of life, -
13:33 - 13:37I think that's right, I think that you're
looking for life under the light post. -
13:37 - 13:40CA: Thank you for boggling all our minds.
Thank so much, Floyd. -
13:40 - 13:43(Applause)
- Title:
- The radical possibilities of man-made DNA
- Speaker:
- Floyd E. Romesberg
- Description:
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Every cell that has ever lived has been the result of the four-letter genetic alphabet: A, T, C and G -- the basic units of DNA. But now that has changed. In a visionary talk, synthetic biologist Floyd E. Romesberg introduces us to the first living organisms created with six-letter DNA -- the four natural letters plus two new man-made ones, X and Y -- and explores how this breakthrough could challenge our basic understanding of nature's design.
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
closed TED
- Project:
- TEDTalks
- Duration:
- 13:56
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