What hallucination reveals about our minds
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0:01 - 0:03We see with the eyes,
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0:03 - 0:05but we see with the brain as well.
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0:06 - 0:10And seeing with the brain
is often called imagination. -
0:11 - 0:15And we are familiar with
the landscapes of our own imagination, -
0:15 - 0:17our inscapes.
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0:17 - 0:19We've lived with them all our lives.
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0:19 - 0:23But there are also hallucinations as well.
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0:23 - 0:26And hallucinations
are completely different. -
0:26 - 0:28They don't seem to be of our creation.
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0:28 - 0:30They don't seem to be under our control.
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0:30 - 0:34They seem to come from the outside
and to mimic perception. -
0:35 - 0:39So I am going to be talking
about hallucinations -
0:39 - 0:42and a particular sort
of visual hallucination, -
0:44 - 0:47which I see among my patients.
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0:49 - 0:54A few months ago, I got a phone call
from a nursing home where I work. -
0:54 - 0:59They told me that one of their residents,
an old lady in her 90s, -
0:59 - 1:01was seeing things,
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1:02 - 1:04and they wondered if she'd gone bonkers
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1:04 - 1:06or, because she was an old lady,
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1:06 - 1:09whether she'd had a stroke,
or whether she had Alzheimer's. -
1:09 - 1:13And so they asked me
if I would come and see Rosalie, -
1:14 - 1:16the old lady.
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1:16 - 1:18I went in to see her.
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1:18 - 1:23It was evident straightaway
that she was perfectly sane -
1:23 - 1:27and lucid and of good intelligence,
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1:27 - 1:30but she'd been very startled
and very bewildered, -
1:30 - 1:32because she'd been seeing things.
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1:34 - 1:38And she told me --
the nurses hadn't mentioned this -- -
1:38 - 1:40that she was blind,
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1:40 - 1:45that she had been completely blind
from macular degeneration for five years. -
1:45 - 1:49But now, for the last few days,
she'd been seeing things. -
1:49 - 1:51So I said, "What sort of things?"
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1:51 - 1:54And she said, "People in Eastern dress,
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1:54 - 1:57in drapes, walking up and down stairs.
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1:58 - 2:01A man who turns towards me and smiles,
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2:01 - 2:05but he has huge teeth
on the one side of his mouth. -
2:06 - 2:07Animals, too.
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2:08 - 2:11I see a white building.
It's snowing, a soft snow. -
2:11 - 2:15I see this horse with a harness,
dragging the snow away. -
2:16 - 2:19Then, one night, the scene changes.
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2:19 - 2:21I see cats and dogs walking towards me.
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2:21 - 2:24They come to a certain point
and then stop. -
2:25 - 2:26Then it changes again.
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2:26 - 2:29I see a lot of children.
They're walking up and down stairs. -
2:29 - 2:32They wear bright colors, rose and blue,
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2:32 - 2:34like Eastern dress."
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2:35 - 2:38Sometimes, she said,
before the people come on, -
2:38 - 2:42she may hallucinate
pink and blue squares on the floor, -
2:42 - 2:44which seem to go up to the ceiling.
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2:45 - 2:49I said, "Is this like a dream?"
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2:49 - 2:53And she said, "No, it's not
like a dream. It's like a movie." -
2:53 - 2:56She said, "It's got color.
It's got motion. -
2:56 - 2:59But it's completely silent,
like a silent movie." -
2:59 - 3:01And she said that
it's a rather boring movie. -
3:01 - 3:04She said, "All these people
with Eastern dress, -
3:04 - 3:09walking up and down,
very repetitive, very limited." -
3:09 - 3:10(Laughter)
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3:10 - 3:13And she has a sense of humor.
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3:13 - 3:16She knew it was a hallucination,
but she was frightened. -
3:16 - 3:17She had lived 95 years,
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3:17 - 3:20and she'd never had
a hallucination before. -
3:20 - 3:25She said that the hallucinations were
unrelated to anything she was thinking -
3:25 - 3:27or feeling or doing,
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3:27 - 3:31that they seemed to come on
by themselves, or disappear. -
3:31 - 3:34She had no control over them.
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3:34 - 3:37She said she didn't recognize
any of the people or places -
3:38 - 3:39in the hallucinations,
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3:39 - 3:42and none of the people or the animals --
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3:42 - 3:44well, they all seemed oblivious of her.
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3:45 - 3:47And she didn't know what was going on.
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3:47 - 3:51She wondered if she was going mad
or losing her mind. -
3:51 - 3:54Well, I examined her carefully.
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3:54 - 3:56She was a bright old lady,
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3:56 - 3:58perfectly sane.
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3:58 - 3:59She had no medical problems.
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3:59 - 4:03She wasn't on any medications
which could produce hallucinations. -
4:03 - 4:05But she was blind.
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4:06 - 4:09And I then said to her,
"I think I know what you have." -
4:09 - 4:13I said, "There is a special form
of visual hallucination -
4:13 - 4:17which may go with deteriorating
vision or blindness. -
4:18 - 4:20This was originally described," I said,
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4:20 - 4:22"right back in the 18th century,
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4:22 - 4:25by a man called Charles Bonnet.
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4:25 - 4:28And you have Charles Bonnet syndrome.
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4:28 - 4:31There's nothing wrong with your brain.
There's nothing wrong with your mind. -
4:31 - 4:33You have Charles Bonnet syndrome."
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4:34 - 4:36And she was very relieved at this,
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4:36 - 4:39that there was nothing
seriously the matter, -
4:39 - 4:43and also rather curious.
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4:43 - 4:46She said, "Who is this Charles Bonnet?"
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4:46 - 4:48She said, "Did he have them himself?"
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4:48 - 4:52And she said, "Tell all the nurses
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4:52 - 4:54that I have Charles Bonnet syndrome."
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4:54 - 4:55(Laughter)
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4:55 - 4:59"I'm not crazy. I'm not demented.
I have Charles Bonnet syndrome." -
5:00 - 5:02Well, so, I did tell the nurses.
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5:02 - 5:05Now this, for me, is a common situation.
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5:05 - 5:08I work in old-age homes, largely.
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5:08 - 5:10I see a lot of elderly people
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5:10 - 5:13who are hearing impaired
or visually impaired. -
5:13 - 5:16About 10 percent
of the hearing-impaired people -
5:16 - 5:18get musical hallucinations.
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5:18 - 5:21And about 10 percent
of the visually impaired people -
5:21 - 5:23get visual hallucinations.
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5:23 - 5:25You don't have to be completely blind,
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5:25 - 5:28only sufficiently impaired.
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5:28 - 5:32Now, with the original description
in the 18th century, -
5:32 - 5:33Charles Bonnet did not have them.
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5:33 - 5:36His grandfather had these hallucinations.
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5:36 - 5:40His grandfather was
a magistrate, an elderly man. -
5:40 - 5:42He'd had cataract surgery.
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5:42 - 5:44His vision was pretty poor.
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5:44 - 5:49And in 1759, he described to his grandson
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5:49 - 5:52various things he was seeing.
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5:52 - 5:55The first thing he said was
he saw a handkerchief in midair. -
5:55 - 5:59It was a large blue handkerchief
with four orange circles. -
5:59 - 6:02And he knew it was a hallucination.
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6:02 - 6:04You don't have handkerchiefs in midair.
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6:04 - 6:08And then he saw a big wheel in midair.
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6:08 - 6:13But sometimes he wasn't sure
whether he was hallucinating or not, -
6:13 - 6:17because the hallucinations would fit
in the context of the visions. -
6:17 - 6:21So on one occasion, when
his granddaughters were visiting them, -
6:21 - 6:24he said, "And who are these
handsome young men with you?" -
6:25 - 6:30And they said, "Alas, Grandpapa,
there are no handsome young men." -
6:30 - 6:32And then the handsome
young men disappeared. -
6:33 - 6:36It's typical of these hallucinations
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6:36 - 6:39that they may come in a flash
and disappear in a flash. -
6:39 - 6:42They don't usually fade in and out.
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6:42 - 6:45They are rather sudden,
and they change suddenly. -
6:45 - 6:47Charles Lullin, the grandfather,
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6:47 - 6:50saw hundreds of different figures,
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6:50 - 6:53different landscapes of all sorts.
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6:53 - 6:56On one occasion, he saw a man
in a bathrobe smoking a pipe -
6:56 - 6:59and realized it was himself.
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6:59 - 7:02That was the only figure he recognized.
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7:03 - 7:06On one occasion, when he was walking
in the streets of Paris, -
7:06 - 7:09he saw -- this was real -- a scaffolding.
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7:09 - 7:13But when he got back home,
he saw a miniature of the scaffolding, -
7:13 - 7:14six inches high,
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7:14 - 7:16on his study table.
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7:16 - 7:21This repetition of perception
is sometimes called "palinopsia." -
7:22 - 7:26With him and with Rosalie,
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7:26 - 7:28what seems to be going on --
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7:28 - 7:30and Rosalie said, "What's going on?" --
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7:30 - 7:33and I said that as you lose vision,
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7:33 - 7:36as the visual parts of the brain
are no longer getting any input, -
7:36 - 7:39they become hyperactive and excitable,
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7:39 - 7:42and they start to fire spontaneously.
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7:42 - 7:44And you start to see things.
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7:44 - 7:48The things you see
can be very complicated indeed. -
7:48 - 7:53With another patient of mine
who also had some vision, -
7:55 - 7:57the visions she had could be disturbing.
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7:57 - 8:03On one occasion, she said she saw
a man in a striped shirt in a restaurant. -
8:03 - 8:04And he turned round,
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8:04 - 8:08and then he divided into
six figures in striped shirts, -
8:08 - 8:11who started walking towards her.
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8:11 - 8:14And then the six figures came
together, like a concertina. -
8:14 - 8:16Once, when she was driving,
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8:16 - 8:18or rather, her husband was driving,
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8:18 - 8:20the road divided into four
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8:20 - 8:24and she felt herself going
simultaneously up four roads. -
8:25 - 8:30She had very mobile
hallucinations as well. -
8:30 - 8:32A lot of them had to do with a car.
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8:32 - 8:37Sometimes she would see a teenage boy
sitting on the hood of the car. -
8:37 - 8:38He was very tenacious,
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8:38 - 8:42and he moved rather gracefully
when the car turned. -
8:42 - 8:44And then when they came to a stop,
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8:44 - 8:48the boy would do a sudden vertical
takeoff, 100 foot in the air, -
8:48 - 8:49and then disappear.
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8:50 - 8:55Another patient of mine
had a different sort of hallucination. -
8:55 - 8:58This was a woman who didn't have
trouble with her eyes -
8:58 - 9:00but the visual parts of her brain,
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9:00 - 9:04a little tumor in the occipital cortex.
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9:04 - 9:07And, above all, she would see cartoons.
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9:08 - 9:13These cartoons would be transparent
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9:13 - 9:17and would cover
half the visual field, like a screen. -
9:17 - 9:22And especially, she saw
cartoons of Kermit the Frog. -
9:22 - 9:23(Laughter)
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9:23 - 9:27Now, I don't watch Sesame Street,
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9:27 - 9:30but she made a point of saying,
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9:30 - 9:33"Why Kermit?" she said,
"Kermit the Frog means nothing to me." -
9:33 - 9:38You know, I was wondering about
Freudian determinants: Why Kermit? -
9:38 - 9:40"Kermit the Frog means nothing to me."
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9:41 - 9:43She didn't mind the cartoons too much.
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9:43 - 9:44But what did disturb her was,
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9:44 - 9:49she got very persistent images
or hallucinations of faces, -
9:49 - 9:52and as with Rosalie,
the faces were often deformed, -
9:52 - 9:56with very large teeth or very large eyes.
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9:56 - 9:58And these frightened her.
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9:59 - 10:03Well, what is going on with these people?
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10:03 - 10:07As a physician, I have to try
and define what's going on -
10:07 - 10:08and to reassure people,
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10:08 - 10:12especially to reassure them
that they're not going insane. -
10:12 - 10:15Something like 10 percent, as I said,
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10:15 - 10:18of visually impaired people get these.
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10:18 - 10:22But no more than one percent
of the people acknowledge them, -
10:22 - 10:25because they are afraid
they will be seen as insane or something. -
10:25 - 10:28And if they do mention them
to their own doctors, -
10:28 - 10:30they may be misdiagnosed.
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10:30 - 10:34In particular, the notion is that if you
see things or hear things, -
10:34 - 10:35you're going mad.
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10:35 - 10:38But the psychotic hallucinations
are quite different. -
10:38 - 10:41Psychotic hallucinations,
whether they are visual or vocal, -
10:41 - 10:42they address you.
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10:42 - 10:47They accuse you, they seduce you,
they humiliate you, they jeer at you. -
10:48 - 10:50You interact with them.
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10:50 - 10:54There is none of this quality
of being addressed -
10:54 - 10:56with these Charles Bonnet hallucinations.
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10:56 - 11:01There is a film. You're seeing a film
which has nothing to do with you, -
11:01 - 11:03or that's how people think about it.
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11:04 - 11:08There is also a rare thing
called temporal lobe epilepsy, -
11:08 - 11:10and sometimes, if one has this,
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11:10 - 11:13one may feel oneself transported back
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11:13 - 11:15to a time and place in the past.
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11:15 - 11:18You're at a particular road junction.
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11:18 - 11:20You smell chestnuts roasting.
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11:20 - 11:23You hear the traffic.
All the senses are involved. -
11:23 - 11:25And you're waiting for your girl.
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11:25 - 11:29And it's that Tuesday
evening back in 1982. -
11:29 - 11:33The temporal lobe hallucinations
are all sense hallucinations, -
11:33 - 11:35full of feeling, full of familiarity,
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11:35 - 11:37located in space and time,
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11:37 - 11:39coherent, dramatic.
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11:40 - 11:42The Charles Bonnet
ones are quite different. -
11:42 - 11:48In the Charles Bonnet hallucinations,
you have all sorts of level, -
11:48 - 11:50from the geometrical hallucinations --
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11:50 - 11:53the pink and blue squares the woman had --
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11:53 - 11:58up to quite elaborate hallucinations
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11:58 - 12:00with figures and especially faces.
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12:00 - 12:04Faces, and sometimes deformed faces,
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12:04 - 12:06are the single commonest thing
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12:06 - 12:08in these hallucinations.
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12:08 - 12:11And one of the second
commonest is cartoons. -
12:11 - 12:14So, what is going on?
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12:14 - 12:16Fascinatingly, in the last few years,
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12:16 - 12:20it's been possible to do
functional brain imagery, -
12:20 - 12:25to do fMRI on people
as they are hallucinating, -
12:25 - 12:31and, in fact, to find that different parts
of the visual brain are activated -
12:31 - 12:33as they are hallucinating.
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12:33 - 12:36When people have these
simple geometrical hallucinations, -
12:36 - 12:40the primary visual cortex is activated.
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12:40 - 12:44This is the part of the brain
which perceives edges and patterns. -
12:44 - 12:48You don't form images
with your primary visual cortex. -
12:48 - 12:49When images are formed,
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12:50 - 12:55a higher part of the visual cortex
is involved in the temporal lobe. -
12:55 - 12:59And in particular,
one area of the temporal lobe -
12:59 - 13:02is called the fusiform gyrus.
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13:02 - 13:05And it's known that if people
have damage in the fusiform gyrus, -
13:05 - 13:09they may lose the ability
to recognize faces. -
13:10 - 13:13But if there's an abnormal activity
in the fusiform gyrus, -
13:13 - 13:15they may hallucinate faces,
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13:15 - 13:19and this is exactly what you find
in some of these people. -
13:19 - 13:23There is an area
in the anterior part of this gyrus -
13:23 - 13:27where teeth and eyes are represented,
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13:27 - 13:30and that part of the gyrus is activated
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13:30 - 13:34when people get
the deformed hallucinations. -
13:34 - 13:38There is another part of the brain
which is especially activated -
13:38 - 13:40when one sees cartoons.
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13:41 - 13:44It's activated when
one recognizes cartoons, -
13:44 - 13:47when one draws cartoons
and when one hallucinates them. -
13:47 - 13:50It's very interesting
that that should be specific. -
13:50 - 13:53There are other parts of the brain
which are specifically involved -
13:53 - 13:58with the recognition and hallucination
of buildings and landscapes. -
13:58 - 14:02Around 1970, it was found that there were
not only parts of the brain, -
14:02 - 14:04but particular cells.
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14:04 - 14:08"Face cells" were discovered around 1970.
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14:08 - 14:12And now we know that there are
hundreds of other sorts of cells, -
14:12 - 14:14which can be very, very specific.
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14:14 - 14:21So you may not only have "car" cells,
you may have "Aston Martin" cells. -
14:21 - 14:24(Laughter)
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14:24 - 14:27I saw an Aston Martin this morning.
I had to bring it in. -
14:27 - 14:28(Laughter)
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14:28 - 14:31And now it's in there somewhere.
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14:31 - 14:32So --
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14:32 - 14:33(Laughter)
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14:33 - 14:38now, at this level, in what's called
the inferotemporal cortex, -
14:38 - 14:40there are only visual images,
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14:40 - 14:43or figments or fragments.
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14:43 - 14:48It's only at higher levels
that the other senses join in -
14:48 - 14:51and there are connections
with memory and emotion. -
14:51 - 14:53And in the Charles Bonnet syndrome,
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14:53 - 14:55you don't go to those higher levels.
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14:55 - 14:58You're in these levels
of inferior visual cortex, -
14:58 - 15:01where you have thousands
and tens of thousands -
15:01 - 15:03and millions of images,
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15:03 - 15:05or figments or fragmentary figments,
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15:06 - 15:11all neurally encoded in particular cells
or small clusters of cells. -
15:12 - 15:17Normally, these are all part
of the integrated stream of perception, -
15:17 - 15:19or imagination,
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15:19 - 15:21and one is not conscious of them.
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15:21 - 15:25It is only if one is
visually impaired or blind -
15:25 - 15:28that the process is interrupted.
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15:28 - 15:30And instead of getting normal perception,
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15:30 - 15:33you're getting an anarchic,
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15:33 - 15:36convulsive stimulation, or release,
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15:36 - 15:39of all of these visual cells
in the inferotemporal cortex. -
15:40 - 15:42So, suddenly you see a face.
Suddenly you see a car. -
15:42 - 15:45Suddenly this and suddenly that.
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15:45 - 15:47The mind does its best to organize
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15:47 - 15:50and to give some sort
of coherence to this, -
15:50 - 15:53but not terribly successfully.
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15:53 - 15:54When these were first described,
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15:54 - 15:58it was thought that they could be
interpreted like dreams. -
15:58 - 16:00But, in fact, people say,
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16:00 - 16:04"I don't recognize the people.
I can't form any associations." -
16:04 - 16:06"Kermit means nothing to me."
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16:06 - 16:11You don't get anywhere
thinking of them as dreams. -
16:12 - 16:16Well, I've more or less
said what I wanted. -
16:16 - 16:21I think I just want to recapitulate
and say this is common. -
16:21 - 16:23Think of the number of blind people.
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16:23 - 16:26There must be hundreds
of thousands of blind people -
16:26 - 16:27who have these hallucinations
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16:27 - 16:29but are too scared to mention them.
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16:29 - 16:35So this sort of thing needs
to be brought into notice, -
16:35 - 16:37for patients, for doctors, for the public.
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16:38 - 16:43Finally, I think they are
infinitely interesting and valuable, -
16:43 - 16:47for giving one some insight
as to how the brain works. -
16:47 - 16:51Charles Bonnet said, 250 years ago --
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16:51 - 16:54he wondered how,
thinking of these hallucinations, -
16:54 - 16:57how, as he put it, the theater of the mind
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16:57 - 17:00could be generated
by the machinery of the brain. -
17:01 - 17:03Now, 250 years later,
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17:03 - 17:07I think we're beginning
to glimpse how this is done. -
17:07 - 17:08Thanks very much.
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17:08 - 17:11(Applause)
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17:11 - 17:14Chris Anderson: That was superb.
Thank you so much. -
17:14 - 17:17You speak about these things
with so much insight -
17:17 - 17:19and empathy for your patients.
-
17:20 - 17:23Have you yourself experienced
any of the syndromes you write about? -
17:23 - 17:26Oliver Sacks: I was afraid you'd ask that.
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17:26 - 17:28(Laughter)
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17:28 - 17:30Well, yeah, a lot of them.
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17:30 - 17:33And, actually, I'm a little
visually impaired myself. -
17:33 - 17:36I'm blind in one eye
and not terribly good in the other. -
17:36 - 17:40And I see the geometrical hallucinations.
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17:40 - 17:42But they stop there.
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17:42 - 17:44CA: And they don't disturb you?
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17:44 - 17:47Because you understand what's doing it,
it doesn't make you worried? -
17:47 - 17:50OS: Well, they don't disturb me
any more than my tinnitus, -
17:50 - 17:53which I ignore.
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17:53 - 17:55They occasionally interest me,
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17:55 - 17:58and I have many pictures
of them in my notebooks. -
17:58 - 18:01I've gone and had an fMRI myself,
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18:01 - 18:04to see how my visual cortex
is taking over. -
18:04 - 18:08And when I see all these hexagons
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18:08 - 18:10and complex things, which I also have,
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18:10 - 18:12in visual migraine,
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18:12 - 18:14I wonder whether everyone
sees things like this -
18:15 - 18:17and whether things
like cave art or ornamental art -
18:17 - 18:20may have been derived from them a bit.
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18:20 - 18:22CA: That was an utterly,
utterly fascinating talk. -
18:23 - 18:24Thank you so much for sharing.
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18:24 - 18:26OS: Thank you. Thank you.
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18:26 - 18:28(Applause)
- Title:
- What hallucination reveals about our minds
- Speaker:
- Oliver Sacks
- Description:
-
Neurologist and author Oliver Sacks brings our attention to Charles Bonnett syndrome -- when visually impaired people experience lucid hallucinations. He describes the experiences of his patients in heartwarming detail and walks us through the biology of this under-reported phenomenon.
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
closed TED
- Project:
- TEDTalks
- Duration:
- 18:32
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Camille Martínez
Hello,
The English transcript was updated on 11/17/19.
Please note the following edit:
18:00
to see how my visual cortex
is ticking over.
-- This has been updated to say "ticking over," rather than "taking over."
Thank you!