What hallucination reveals about our minds
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0:00 - 0:03We see with the eyes,
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0:03 - 0:06but we see with the brain as well.
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0:06 - 0:10And seeing with the brain is often called imagination.
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0:10 - 0:15And we are familiar with the landscapes of our own imagination,
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0:15 - 0:19our inscapes. We've lived with them all our lives.
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0:19 - 0:23But there are also hallucinations as well,
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0:23 - 0:26and hallucinations are completely different.
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0:26 - 0:28They don't seem to be of our creation.
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0:28 - 0:30They don't seem to be under our control.
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0:30 - 0:32They seem to come from the outside,
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0:32 - 0:35and to mimic perception.
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0:35 - 0:39So I am going to be talking about hallucinations,
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0:39 - 0:43and a particular sort of visual hallucination
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0:43 - 0:48which I see among my patients.
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0:48 - 0:52A few months ago, I got a phone call
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0:52 - 0:54from a nursing home where I work.
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0:54 - 0:59They told me that one of their residents, an old lady in her 90s,
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0:59 - 1:01was seeing things,
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1:01 - 1:04and they wondered if she'd gone bonkers
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1:04 - 1:06or, because she was an old lady,
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1:06 - 1:09whether she'd had a stroke, or whether she had Alzheimer's.
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1:09 - 1:14And so they asked me if I would come and see Rosalie,
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1:14 - 1:16the old lady.
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1:16 - 1:18I went in to see her.
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1:18 - 1:20It was evident straight away
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1:20 - 1:23that she was perfectly sane
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1:23 - 1:26and lucid and of good intelligence,
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1:26 - 1:30but she'd been very startled and very bewildered,
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1:30 - 1:33because she'd been seeing things.
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1:33 - 1:36And she told me --
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1:36 - 1:38the nurses hadn't mentioned this --
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1:38 - 1:40that she was blind,
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1:40 - 1:45that she had been completely blind from macular degeneration for five years.
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1:45 - 1:48But now, for the last few days, she'd been seeing things.
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1:48 - 1:51So I said, "What sort of things?"
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1:51 - 1:54And she said, "People in Eastern dress,
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1:54 - 1:58in drapes, walking up and down stairs.
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1:58 - 2:01A man who turns towards me and smiles.
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2:01 - 2:05But he has huge teeth on one side of his mouth.
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2:05 - 2:07Animals too.
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2:07 - 2:10I see a white building. It's snowing, a soft snow.
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2:10 - 2:15I see this horse with a harness, dragging the snow away.
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2:15 - 2:19Then, one night, the scene changes.
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2:19 - 2:21I see cats and dogs walking towards me.
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2:21 - 2:24They come to a certain point and then stop.
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2:24 - 2:26Then it changes again.
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2:26 - 2:29I see a lot of children. They are walking up and down stairs.
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2:29 - 2:32They wear bright colors, rose and blue,
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2:32 - 2:35like Eastern dress."
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2:35 - 2:38Sometimes, she said, before the people come on,
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2:38 - 2:42she may hallucinate pink and blue squares on the floor,
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2:42 - 2:45which seem to go up to the ceiling.
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2:45 - 2:49I said, "Is this like a dream?"
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2:49 - 2:52And she said, "No, it's not like a dream. It's like a movie."
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2:52 - 2:55She said, "It's got color. It's got motion.
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2:55 - 2:59But it's completely silent, like a silent movie."
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2:59 - 3:01And she said that it's a rather boring movie.
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3:01 - 3:04She said, "All these people with Eastern dress,
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3:04 - 3:09walking up and down, very repetitive, very limited."
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3:09 - 3:11(Laughter)
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3:11 - 3:13And she has a sense of humor.
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3:13 - 3:15She knew it was a hallucination.
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3:15 - 3:17But she was frightened. She'd lived 95 years
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3:17 - 3:20and she'd never had a hallucination before.
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3:20 - 3:23She said that the hallucinations were unrelated
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3:23 - 3:27to anything she was thinking or feeling or doing,
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3:27 - 3:31that they seemed to come on by themselves, or disappear.
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3:31 - 3:33She had no control over them.
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3:33 - 3:35She said she didn't recognize
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3:35 - 3:37any of the people or places
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3:37 - 3:39in the hallucinations.
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3:39 - 3:41And none of the people or the animals,
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3:41 - 3:45well, they all seemed oblivious of her.
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3:45 - 3:47And she didn't know what was going on.
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3:47 - 3:49She wondered if she was going mad
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3:49 - 3:51or losing her mind.
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3:51 - 3:53Well, I examined her carefully.
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3:53 - 3:55She was a bright old lady,
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3:55 - 3:59perfectly sane. She had no medical problems.
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3:59 - 4:03She wasn't on any medications which could produce hallucinations.
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4:03 - 4:05But she was blind.
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4:05 - 4:07And I then said to her,
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4:07 - 4:09"I think I know what you have."
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4:09 - 4:13I said, "There is a special form of visual hallucination
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4:13 - 4:17which may go with deteriorating vision or blindness.
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4:17 - 4:20This was originally described," I said,
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4:20 - 4:22"right back in the 18th century,
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4:22 - 4:25by a man called Charles Bonnet.
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4:25 - 4:28And you have Charles Bonnet syndrome.
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4:28 - 4:30There is nothing wrong with your brain. There is nothing wrong with your mind.
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4:30 - 4:33You have Charles Bonnet syndrome."
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4:33 - 4:36And she was very relieved at this,
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4:36 - 4:40that there was nothing seriously the matter,
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4:40 - 4:43and also rather curious.
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4:43 - 4:45She said, "Who is this Charles Bonnet?"
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4:45 - 4:48She said, "Did he have them himself?"
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4:48 - 4:51And she said, "Tell all the nurses
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4:51 - 4:54that I have Charles Bonnet syndrome."
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4:54 - 4:56(Laughter)
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4:56 - 5:00"I'm not crazy. I'm not demented. I have Charles Bonnet syndrome."
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5:00 - 5:02Well, so I did tell the nurses.
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5:02 - 5:05Now this, for me, is a common situation.
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5:05 - 5:07I work in old-age homes, largely.
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5:07 - 5:09I see a lot of elderly people
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5:09 - 5:13who are hearing impaired or visually impaired.
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5:13 - 5:15About 10 percent of the hearing impaired people
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5:15 - 5:18get musical hallucinations.
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5:18 - 5:21And about 10 percent of the visually impaired people
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5:21 - 5:23get visual hallucinations.
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5:23 - 5:25You don't have to be completely blind,
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5:25 - 5:27only sufficiently impaired.
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5:27 - 5:31Now with the original description in the 18th century,
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5:31 - 5:33Charles Bonnet did not have them.
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5:33 - 5:36His grandfather had these hallucinations.
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5:36 - 5:39His grandfather was a magistrate, an elderly man.
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5:39 - 5:42He'd had cataract surgery.
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5:42 - 5:44His vision was pretty poor.
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5:44 - 5:49And in 1759, he described to his grandson
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5:49 - 5:51various things he was seeing.
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5:51 - 5:53The first thing he said was he saw
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5:53 - 5:55a handkerchief in midair.
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5:55 - 5:57It was a large blue handkerchief
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5:57 - 5:59with four orange circles.
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5:59 - 6:02And he knew it was a hallucination.
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6:02 - 6:04You don't have handkerchiefs in midair.
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6:04 - 6:08And then he saw a big wheel in midair.
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6:08 - 6:13But sometimes he wasn't sure whether he was hallucinating or not,
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6:13 - 6:15because the hallucinations would fit
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6:15 - 6:17in the context of the visions.
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6:17 - 6:20So on one occasion, when his granddaughters were visiting them,
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6:20 - 6:25he said, "And who are these handsome young men with you?"
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6:25 - 6:29And they said, "Alas, Grandpapa, there are no handsome young men."
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6:29 - 6:33And then the handsome young men disappeared.
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6:33 - 6:36It's typical of these hallucinations
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6:36 - 6:39that they may come in a flash and disappear in a flash.
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6:39 - 6:41They don't usually fade in and out.
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6:41 - 6:44They are rather sudden, and they change suddenly.
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6:44 - 6:47Charles Lullin, the grandfather,
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6:47 - 6:50saw hundreds of different figures,
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6:50 - 6:52different landscapes of all sorts.
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6:52 - 6:56On one occasion, he saw a man in a bathrobe smoking a pipe,
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6:56 - 6:59and realized it was himself.
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6:59 - 7:02That was the only figure he recognized.
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7:02 - 7:06On one occasion when he was walking in the streets of Paris,
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7:06 - 7:09he saw -- this was real -- a scaffolding.
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7:09 - 7:12But when he got back home, he saw a miniature of the scaffolding
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7:12 - 7:16six inches high, on his study table.
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7:16 - 7:19This repetition of perception
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7:19 - 7:21is sometimes called palinopsia.
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7:21 - 7:26With him and with Rosalie,
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7:26 - 7:28what seems to be going on --
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7:28 - 7:30and Rosalie said, "What's going on?" --
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7:30 - 7:33and I said that as you lose vision,
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7:33 - 7:36as the visual parts of the brain are no longer getting any input,
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7:36 - 7:39they become hyperactive and excitable,
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7:39 - 7:41and they start to fire spontaneously.
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7:41 - 7:44And you start to see things.
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7:44 - 7:47The things you see can be very complicated indeed.
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7:47 - 7:51With another patient of mine,
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7:51 - 7:53who, also had some vision,
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7:53 - 7:57the vision she had could be disturbing.
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7:57 - 8:00On one occasion, she said she saw
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8:00 - 8:03a man in a striped shirt in a restaurant.
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8:03 - 8:05And he turned around. And then
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8:05 - 8:08he divided into six figures in striped shirts,
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8:08 - 8:11who started walking towards her.
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8:11 - 8:14And then the six figures came together again, like a concertina.
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8:14 - 8:16Once, when she was driving,
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8:16 - 8:18or rather, her husband was driving,
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8:18 - 8:20the road divided into four
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8:20 - 8:24and she felt herself going simultaneously up four roads.
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8:24 - 8:29She had very mobile hallucinations as well.
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8:29 - 8:32A lot of them had to do with a car.
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8:32 - 8:34Sometimes she would see a teenage boy
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8:34 - 8:37sitting on the hood of the car.
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8:37 - 8:39He was very tenacious and he moved rather gracefully
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8:39 - 8:41when the car turned.
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8:41 - 8:44And then when they came to a stop,
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8:44 - 8:47the boy would do a sudden vertical takeoff, 100 foot in the air,
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8:47 - 8:50and then disappear.
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8:50 - 8:55Another patient of mine had a different sort of hallucination.
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8:55 - 8:58This was a woman who didn't have trouble with her eyes,
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8:58 - 9:00but the visual parts of her brain,
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9:00 - 9:03a little tumor in the occipital cortex.
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9:03 - 9:08And, above all, she would see cartoons.
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9:08 - 9:13These cartoons would be transparent
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9:13 - 9:16and would cover half the visual field, like a screen.
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9:16 - 9:22And especially she saw cartoons of Kermit the Frog.
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9:22 - 9:23(Laughter)
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9:23 - 9:26Now, I don't watch Sesame Street,
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9:26 - 9:29but she made a point of saying,
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9:29 - 9:33"Why Kermit?" She said, "Kermit the Frog means nothing to me.
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9:33 - 9:36You know, I was wondering about Freudian determinants.
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9:36 - 9:38Why Kermit?
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9:38 - 9:40Kermit the Frog means nothing to me."
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9:40 - 9:42She didn't mind the cartoons too much.
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9:42 - 9:46But what did disturb her was she got very persistent
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9:46 - 9:49images or hallucinations of faces
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9:49 - 9:52and as with Rosalie, the faces were often deformed,
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9:52 - 9:56with very large teeth or very large eyes.
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9:56 - 9:59And these frightened her.
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9:59 - 10:03Well, what is going on with these people?
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10:03 - 10:06As a physician, I have to try and define what's going on,
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10:06 - 10:08and to reassure people,
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10:08 - 10:12especially to reassure them that they're not going insane.
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10:12 - 10:15Something like 10 percent, as I said,
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10:15 - 10:18of visually impaired people get these.
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10:18 - 10:22But no more than one percent of the people acknowledge them,
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10:22 - 10:25because they are afraid they will be seen as insane or something.
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10:25 - 10:27And if they do mention them to their own doctors
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10:27 - 10:30they may be misdiagnosed.
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10:30 - 10:32In particular, the notion is that if you see
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10:32 - 10:35things or hear things, you're going mad,
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10:35 - 10:38but the psychotic hallucinations are quite different.
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10:38 - 10:41Psychotic hallucinations, whether they are visual or vocal,
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10:41 - 10:43they address you. They accuse you.
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10:43 - 10:45They seduce you. They humiliate you.
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10:45 - 10:48They jeer at you.
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10:48 - 10:50You interact with them.
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10:50 - 10:53There is none of this quality of being addressed
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10:53 - 10:56with these Charles Bonnet hallucinations.
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10:56 - 11:00There is a film. You're seeing a film which has nothing to do with you,
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11:00 - 11:03or that's how people think about it.
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11:03 - 11:07There is also a rare thing called temporal lobe epilepsy,
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11:07 - 11:10and sometimes, if one has this,
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11:10 - 11:12one may feel oneself transported back
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11:12 - 11:15to a time and place in the past.
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11:15 - 11:17You're at a particular road junction.
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11:17 - 11:19You smell chestnuts roasting.
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11:19 - 11:22You hear the traffic. All the senses are involved.
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11:22 - 11:24And you're waiting for your girl.
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11:24 - 11:28And it's that Tuesday evening back in 1982.
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11:28 - 11:30And the temporal lobe hallucinations
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11:30 - 11:32are all-sense hallucinations,
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11:32 - 11:35full of feeling, full of familiarity,
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11:35 - 11:37located in space and time,
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11:37 - 11:39coherent, dramatic.
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11:39 - 11:42The Charles Bonnet ones are quite different.
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11:42 - 11:46So in the Charles Bonnet hallucinations,
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11:46 - 11:48you have all sorts of levels,
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11:48 - 11:50from the geometrical hallucinations --
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11:50 - 11:53the pink and blue squares the woman had --
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11:53 - 11:57up to quite elaborate hallucinations
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11:57 - 12:00with figures and especially faces.
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12:00 - 12:03Faces, and sometimes deformed faces,
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12:03 - 12:06are the single commonest thing
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12:06 - 12:08in these hallucinations.
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12:08 - 12:11And one of the second commonest is cartoons.
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12:11 - 12:14So, what is going on?
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12:14 - 12:16Fascinatingly, in the last few years,
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12:16 - 12:20it's been possible to do functional brain imagery,
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12:20 - 12:24to do fMRI on people as they are hallucinating.
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12:24 - 12:28And in fact, to find that different parts
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12:28 - 12:31of the visual brain are activated
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12:31 - 12:33as they are hallucinating.
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12:33 - 12:36When people have these simple geometrical hallucinations,
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12:36 - 12:40the primary visual cortex is activated.
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12:40 - 12:43This is the part of the brain which perceives edges and patterns.
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12:43 - 12:47You don't form images with your primary visual cortex.
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12:47 - 12:50When images are formed,
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12:50 - 12:52a higher part of the visual cortex
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12:52 - 12:54is involved in the temporal lobe.
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12:54 - 12:59And in particular, one area of the temporal lobe
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12:59 - 13:01is called the fusiform gyrus.
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13:01 - 13:05And it's known that if people have damage in the fusiform gyrus,
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13:05 - 13:09they maybe lose the ability to recognize faces.
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13:09 - 13:13But if there is an abnormal activity in the fusiform gyrus,
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13:13 - 13:15they may hallucinate faces,
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13:15 - 13:18and this is exactly what you find in some of these people.
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13:18 - 13:22There is an area in the anterior part of this gyrus
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13:22 - 13:27where teeth and eyes are represented,
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13:27 - 13:30and that part of the gyrus is activated
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13:30 - 13:34when people get the deformed hallucinations.
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13:34 - 13:36There is another part of the brain
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13:36 - 13:38which is especially activated
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13:38 - 13:40when one sees cartoons.
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13:40 - 13:43It's activated when one recognizes cartoons,
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13:43 - 13:47when one draws cartoons, and when one hallucinates them.
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13:47 - 13:50It's very interesting that that should be specific.
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13:50 - 13:53There are other parts of the brain which are specifically involved
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13:53 - 13:55with the recognition and hallucination
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13:55 - 13:58of buildings and landscapes.
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13:58 - 14:01Around 1970, it was found that there were not only parts of the brain,
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14:01 - 14:03but particular cells.
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14:03 - 14:08"Face cells" were discovered around 1970.
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14:08 - 14:10And now we know that there are hundreds of other
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14:10 - 14:12sorts of cells,
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14:12 - 14:14which can be very, very specific.
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14:14 - 14:16So you may not only have
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14:16 - 14:18"car" cells,
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14:18 - 14:21you may have "Aston Martin" cells.
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14:21 - 14:23(Laughter)
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14:23 - 14:25I saw an Aston Martin this morning.
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14:25 - 14:27I had to bring it in.
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14:27 - 14:30And now it's in there somewhere.
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14:30 - 14:33(Laughter)
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14:33 - 14:37Now, at this level, in what's called the inferotemporal cortex,
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14:37 - 14:40there are only visual images,
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14:40 - 14:43or figments or fragments.
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14:43 - 14:46It's only at higher levels
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14:46 - 14:48that the other senses join in
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14:48 - 14:50and there are connections with memory and emotion.
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14:50 - 14:53And in the Charles Bonnet syndrome,
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14:53 - 14:55you don't go to those higher levels.
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14:55 - 14:58You're in these levels of inferior visual cortex
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14:58 - 15:00where you have thousands and tens of thousands
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15:00 - 15:03and millions of images,
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15:03 - 15:05or figments, or fragmentary figments,
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15:05 - 15:07all neurally encoded
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15:07 - 15:11in particular cells or small clusters of cells.
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15:11 - 15:14Normally these are all part of
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15:14 - 15:18the integrated stream of perception, or imagination,
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15:18 - 15:21and one is not conscious of them.
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15:21 - 15:25It is only if one is visually impaired or blind
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15:25 - 15:27that the process is interrupted.
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15:27 - 15:30And instead of getting normal perception,
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15:30 - 15:32you're getting an anarchic,
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15:32 - 15:35convulsive stimulation, or release,
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15:35 - 15:37of all of these visual cells
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15:37 - 15:39in the inferotemporal cortex.
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15:39 - 15:42So, suddenly you see a face. Suddenly you see a car.
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15:42 - 15:45Suddenly this, and suddenly that.
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15:45 - 15:47The mind does its best to organize
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15:47 - 15:50and to give some sort of coherence to this,
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15:50 - 15:52but not terribly successfully.
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15:52 - 15:54When these were first described,
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15:54 - 15:58it was thought that they could be interpreted like dreams.
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15:58 - 16:00But in fact people say,
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16:00 - 16:03"I don't recognize the people. I can't form any associations."
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16:03 - 16:06"Kermit means nothing to me."
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16:06 - 16:11You don't get anywhere thinking of them as dreams.
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16:11 - 16:16Well, I've more or less said what I wanted.
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16:16 - 16:19I think I just want to recapitulate
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16:19 - 16:21and say this is common.
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16:21 - 16:23Think of the number of blind people.
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16:23 - 16:25There must be hundreds of thousands of blind people
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16:25 - 16:27who have these hallucinations,
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16:27 - 16:29but are too scared to mention them.
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16:29 - 16:32So this sort of thing needs to be brought into
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16:32 - 16:38notice, for patients, for doctors, for the public.
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16:38 - 16:40Finally, I think they are
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16:40 - 16:43infinitely interesting and valuable,
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16:43 - 16:47for giving one some insight as to how the brain works.
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16:47 - 16:50Charles Bonnet said, 250 years ago --
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16:50 - 16:54he wondered how, thinking these hallucinations,
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16:54 - 16:57how, as he put it, the theater of the mind
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16:57 - 17:00could be generated by the machinery of the brain.
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17:00 - 17:03Now, 250 years later,
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17:03 - 17:06I think we're beginning to glimpse how this is done.
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17:06 - 17:08Thanks very much.
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17:08 - 17:11(Applause)
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17:11 - 17:14Chris Anderson: That was superb. Thank you so much.
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17:14 - 17:16You speak about these things with so much insight
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17:16 - 17:19and empathy for your patients.
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17:19 - 17:24Have you yourself experienced any of the syndromes you write about?
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17:24 - 17:26Oliver Sacks: I was afraid you'd ask that.
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17:26 - 17:27(Laughter)
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17:27 - 17:30Well, yeah, a lot of them.
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17:30 - 17:33And actually I'm a little visually impaired myself.
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17:33 - 17:36I'm blind in one eye, and not terribly good in the other.
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17:36 - 17:40And I see the geometrical hallucinations.
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17:40 - 17:42But they stop there.
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17:42 - 17:44CA: And they don't disturb you?
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17:44 - 17:46Because you understand what's doing it, it doesn't make you worried?
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17:46 - 17:50OS: Well they don't disturb me any more than my tinnitus,
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17:50 - 17:53which I ignore.
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17:53 - 17:55They occasionally interest me,
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17:55 - 17:58and I have many pictures of them in my notebooks.
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17:58 - 18:01I've gone and had an fMRI myself,
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18:01 - 18:04to see how my visual cortex is taking over.
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18:04 - 18:08And when I see all these hexagons
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18:08 - 18:10and complex things, which I also have,
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18:10 - 18:12in visual migraine,
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18:12 - 18:14I wonder whether everyone sees things like this,
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18:14 - 18:17and whether things like cave art or ornamental art
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18:17 - 18:20may have been derived from them a bit.
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18:20 - 18:22CA: That was an utterly, utterly fascinating talk.
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18:22 - 18:24Thank you so much for sharing.
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18:24 - 18:26OS: Thank you. Thank you.
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18:26 - 18:28(Applause)
- Title:
- What hallucination reveals about our minds
- Speaker:
- Oliver Sacks
- Description:
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Neurologist and author Oliver Sacks brings our attention to Charles Bonnett syndrome -- when visually impaired people experience lucid hallucinations. He describes the experiences of his patients in heartwarming detail and walks us through the biology of this under-reported phenomenon.
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
closed TED
- Project:
- TEDTalks
- Duration:
- 18:32
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Camille Martínez
Hello,
The English transcript was updated on 11/17/19.
Please note the following edit:
18:00
to see how my visual cortex
is ticking over.
-- This has been updated to say "ticking over," rather than "taking over."
Thank you!