1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,000 We see with the eyes, 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,000 but we see with the brain as well. 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:10,000 And seeing with the brain is often called imagination. 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:15,000 And we are familiar with the landscapes of our own imagination, 5 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:19,000 our inscapes. We've lived with them all our lives. 6 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:23,000 But there are also hallucinations as well, 7 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,000 and hallucinations are completely different. 8 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,000 They don't seem to be of our creation. 9 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,000 They don't seem to be under our control. 10 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,000 They seem to come from the outside, 11 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,000 and to mimic perception. 12 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:39,000 So I am going to be talking about hallucinations, 13 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:43,000 and a particular sort of visual hallucination 14 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:48,000 which I see among my patients. 15 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:52,000 A few months ago, I got a phone call 16 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,000 from a nursing home where I work. 17 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:59,000 They told me that one of their residents, an old lady in her 90s, 18 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,000 was seeing things, 19 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,000 and they wondered if she'd gone bonkers 20 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,000 or, because she was an old lady, 21 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,000 whether she'd had a stroke, or whether she had Alzheimer's. 22 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:14,000 And so they asked me if I would come and see Rosalie, 23 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,000 the old lady. 24 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,000 I went in to see her. 25 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,000 It was evident straight away 26 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,000 that she was perfectly sane 27 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,000 and lucid and of good intelligence, 28 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:30,000 but she'd been very startled and very bewildered, 29 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,000 because she'd been seeing things. 30 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,000 And she told me -- 31 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,000 the nurses hadn't mentioned this -- 32 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,000 that she was blind, 33 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:45,000 that she had been completely blind from macular degeneration for five years. 34 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,000 But now, for the last few days, she'd been seeing things. 35 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,000 So I said, "What sort of things?" 36 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,000 And she said, "People in Eastern dress, 37 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:58,000 in drapes, walking up and down stairs. 38 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,000 A man who turns towards me and smiles. 39 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:05,000 But he has huge teeth on one side of his mouth. 40 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,000 Animals too. 41 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,000 I see a white building. It's snowing, a soft snow. 42 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:15,000 I see this horse with a harness, dragging the snow away. 43 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:19,000 Then, one night, the scene changes. 44 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,000 I see cats and dogs walking towards me. 45 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,000 They come to a certain point and then stop. 46 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,000 Then it changes again. 47 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,000 I see a lot of children. They are walking up and down stairs. 48 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,000 They wear bright colors, rose and blue, 49 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,000 like Eastern dress." 50 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,000 Sometimes, she said, before the people come on, 51 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:42,000 she may hallucinate pink and blue squares on the floor, 52 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,000 which seem to go up to the ceiling. 53 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:49,000 I said, "Is this like a dream?" 54 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,000 And she said, "No, it's not like a dream. It's like a movie." 55 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,000 She said, "It's got color. It's got motion. 56 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:59,000 But it's completely silent, like a silent movie." 57 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,000 And she said that it's a rather boring movie. 58 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,000 She said, "All these people with Eastern dress, 59 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:09,000 walking up and down, very repetitive, very limited." 60 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,000 (Laughter) 61 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,000 And she has a sense of humor. 62 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,000 She knew it was a hallucination. 63 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,000 But she was frightened. She'd lived 95 years 64 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,000 and she'd never had a hallucination before. 65 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,000 She said that the hallucinations were unrelated 66 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:27,000 to anything she was thinking or feeling or doing, 67 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:31,000 that they seemed to come on by themselves, or disappear. 68 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,000 She had no control over them. 69 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,000 She said she didn't recognize 70 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,000 any of the people or places 71 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,000 in the hallucinations. 72 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,000 And none of the people or the animals, 73 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:45,000 well, they all seemed oblivious of her. 74 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,000 And she didn't know what was going on. 75 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,000 She wondered if she was going mad 76 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,000 or losing her mind. 77 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,000 Well, I examined her carefully. 78 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,000 She was a bright old lady, 79 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:59,000 perfectly sane. She had no medical problems. 80 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:03,000 She wasn't on any medications which could produce hallucinations. 81 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,000 But she was blind. 82 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,000 And I then said to her, 83 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,000 "I think I know what you have." 84 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:13,000 I said, "There is a special form of visual hallucination 85 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:17,000 which may go with deteriorating vision or blindness. 86 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,000 This was originally described," I said, 87 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,000 "right back in the 18th century, 88 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,000 by a man called Charles Bonnet. 89 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,000 And you have Charles Bonnet syndrome. 90 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,000 There is nothing wrong with your brain. There is nothing wrong with your mind. 91 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,000 You have Charles Bonnet syndrome." 92 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,000 And she was very relieved at this, 93 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:40,000 that there was nothing seriously the matter, 94 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,000 and also rather curious. 95 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,000 She said, "Who is this Charles Bonnet?" 96 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,000 She said, "Did he have them himself?" 97 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,000 And she said, "Tell all the nurses 98 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,000 that I have Charles Bonnet syndrome." 99 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,000 (Laughter) 100 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:00,000 "I'm not crazy. I'm not demented. I have Charles Bonnet syndrome." 101 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,000 Well, so I did tell the nurses. 102 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,000 Now this, for me, is a common situation. 103 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,000 I work in old-age homes, largely. 104 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,000 I see a lot of elderly people 105 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:13,000 who are hearing impaired or visually impaired. 106 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,000 About 10 percent of the hearing impaired people 107 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,000 get musical hallucinations. 108 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,000 And about 10 percent of the visually impaired people 109 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,000 get visual hallucinations. 110 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,000 You don't have to be completely blind, 111 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,000 only sufficiently impaired. 112 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:31,000 Now with the original description in the 18th century, 113 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,000 Charles Bonnet did not have them. 114 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,000 His grandfather had these hallucinations. 115 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,000 His grandfather was a magistrate, an elderly man. 116 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,000 He'd had cataract surgery. 117 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,000 His vision was pretty poor. 118 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:49,000 And in 1759, he described to his grandson 119 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,000 various things he was seeing. 120 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,000 The first thing he said was he saw 121 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,000 a handkerchief in midair. 122 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,000 It was a large blue handkerchief 123 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,000 with four orange circles. 124 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,000 And he knew it was a hallucination. 125 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,000 You don't have handkerchiefs in midair. 126 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:08,000 And then he saw a big wheel in midair. 127 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:13,000 But sometimes he wasn't sure whether he was hallucinating or not, 128 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,000 because the hallucinations would fit 129 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,000 in the context of the visions. 130 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,000 So on one occasion, when his granddaughters were visiting them, 131 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:25,000 he said, "And who are these handsome young men with you?" 132 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:29,000 And they said, "Alas, Grandpapa, there are no handsome young men." 133 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:33,000 And then the handsome young men disappeared. 134 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,000 It's typical of these hallucinations 135 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,000 that they may come in a flash and disappear in a flash. 136 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,000 They don't usually fade in and out. 137 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,000 They are rather sudden, and they change suddenly. 138 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,000 Charles Lullin, the grandfather, 139 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,000 saw hundreds of different figures, 140 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,000 different landscapes of all sorts. 141 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:56,000 On one occasion, he saw a man in a bathrobe smoking a pipe, 142 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,000 and realized it was himself. 143 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,000 That was the only figure he recognized. 144 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:06,000 On one occasion when he was walking in the streets of Paris, 145 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,000 he saw -- this was real -- a scaffolding. 146 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,000 But when he got back home, he saw a miniature of the scaffolding 147 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:16,000 six inches high, on his study table. 148 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,000 This repetition of perception 149 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,000 is sometimes called palinopsia. 150 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:26,000 With him and with Rosalie, 151 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,000 what seems to be going on -- 152 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,000 and Rosalie said, "What's going on?" -- 153 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,000 and I said that as you lose vision, 154 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,000 as the visual parts of the brain are no longer getting any input, 155 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,000 they become hyperactive and excitable, 156 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,000 and they start to fire spontaneously. 157 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,000 And you start to see things. 158 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,000 The things you see can be very complicated indeed. 159 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:51,000 With another patient of mine, 160 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,000 who, also had some vision, 161 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:57,000 the vision she had could be disturbing. 162 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,000 On one occasion, she said she saw 163 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,000 a man in a striped shirt in a restaurant. 164 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,000 And he turned around. And then 165 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,000 he divided into six figures in striped shirts, 166 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,000 who started walking towards her. 167 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,000 And then the six figures came together again, like a concertina. 168 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,000 Once, when she was driving, 169 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,000 or rather, her husband was driving, 170 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,000 the road divided into four 171 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:24,000 and she felt herself going simultaneously up four roads. 172 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:29,000 She had very mobile hallucinations as well. 173 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,000 A lot of them had to do with a car. 174 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,000 Sometimes she would see a teenage boy 175 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,000 sitting on the hood of the car. 176 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,000 He was very tenacious and he moved rather gracefully 177 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,000 when the car turned. 178 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,000 And then when they came to a stop, 179 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,000 the boy would do a sudden vertical takeoff, 100 foot in the air, 180 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,000 and then disappear. 181 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:55,000 Another patient of mine had a different sort of hallucination. 182 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,000 This was a woman who didn't have trouble with her eyes, 183 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,000 but the visual parts of her brain, 184 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:03,000 a little tumor in the occipital cortex. 185 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:08,000 And, above all, she would see cartoons. 186 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:13,000 These cartoons would be transparent 187 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,000 and would cover half the visual field, like a screen. 188 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:22,000 And especially she saw cartoons of Kermit the Frog. 189 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:23,000 (Laughter) 190 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,000 Now, I don't watch Sesame Street, 191 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,000 but she made a point of saying, 192 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:33,000 "Why Kermit?" She said, "Kermit the Frog means nothing to me. 193 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,000 You know, I was wondering about Freudian determinants. 194 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,000 Why Kermit? 195 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,000 Kermit the Frog means nothing to me." 196 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,000 She didn't mind the cartoons too much. 197 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:46,000 But what did disturb her was she got very persistent 198 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:49,000 images or hallucinations of faces 199 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,000 and as with Rosalie, the faces were often deformed, 200 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:56,000 with very large teeth or very large eyes. 201 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,000 And these frightened her. 202 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:03,000 Well, what is going on with these people? 203 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:06,000 As a physician, I have to try and define what's going on, 204 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,000 and to reassure people, 205 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:12,000 especially to reassure them that they're not going insane. 206 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:15,000 Something like 10 percent, as I said, 207 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,000 of visually impaired people get these. 208 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:22,000 But no more than one percent of the people acknowledge them, 209 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,000 because they are afraid they will be seen as insane or something. 210 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,000 And if they do mention them to their own doctors 211 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,000 they may be misdiagnosed. 212 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,000 In particular, the notion is that if you see 213 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:35,000 things or hear things, you're going mad, 214 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:38,000 but the psychotic hallucinations are quite different. 215 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,000 Psychotic hallucinations, whether they are visual or vocal, 216 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,000 they address you. They accuse you. 217 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,000 They seduce you. They humiliate you. 218 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,000 They jeer at you. 219 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,000 You interact with them. 220 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,000 There is none of this quality of being addressed 221 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,000 with these Charles Bonnet hallucinations. 222 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:00,000 There is a film. You're seeing a film which has nothing to do with you, 223 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,000 or that's how people think about it. 224 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:07,000 There is also a rare thing called temporal lobe epilepsy, 225 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,000 and sometimes, if one has this, 226 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,000 one may feel oneself transported back 227 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,000 to a time and place in the past. 228 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,000 You're at a particular road junction. 229 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,000 You smell chestnuts roasting. 230 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:22,000 You hear the traffic. All the senses are involved. 231 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,000 And you're waiting for your girl. 232 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:28,000 And it's that Tuesday evening back in 1982. 233 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,000 And the temporal lobe hallucinations 234 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,000 are all-sense hallucinations, 235 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,000 full of feeling, full of familiarity, 236 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,000 located in space and time, 237 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,000 coherent, dramatic. 238 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,000 The Charles Bonnet ones are quite different. 239 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:46,000 So in the Charles Bonnet hallucinations, 240 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,000 you have all sorts of levels, 241 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,000 from the geometrical hallucinations -- 242 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,000 the pink and blue squares the woman had -- 243 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:57,000 up to quite elaborate hallucinations 244 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,000 with figures and especially faces. 245 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,000 Faces, and sometimes deformed faces, 246 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,000 are the single commonest thing 247 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,000 in these hallucinations. 248 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,000 And one of the second commonest is cartoons. 249 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,000 So, what is going on? 250 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,000 Fascinatingly, in the last few years, 251 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:20,000 it's been possible to do functional brain imagery, 252 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:24,000 to do fMRI on people as they are hallucinating. 253 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:28,000 And in fact, to find that different parts 254 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,000 of the visual brain are activated 255 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,000 as they are hallucinating. 256 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,000 When people have these simple geometrical hallucinations, 257 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:40,000 the primary visual cortex is activated. 258 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,000 This is the part of the brain which perceives edges and patterns. 259 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:47,000 You don't form images with your primary visual cortex. 260 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,000 When images are formed, 261 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,000 a higher part of the visual cortex 262 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,000 is involved in the temporal lobe. 263 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:59,000 And in particular, one area of the temporal lobe 264 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,000 is called the fusiform gyrus. 265 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:05,000 And it's known that if people have damage in the fusiform gyrus, 266 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:09,000 they maybe lose the ability to recognize faces. 267 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:13,000 But if there is an abnormal activity in the fusiform gyrus, 268 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,000 they may hallucinate faces, 269 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:18,000 and this is exactly what you find in some of these people. 270 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:22,000 There is an area in the anterior part of this gyrus 271 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:27,000 where teeth and eyes are represented, 272 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,000 and that part of the gyrus is activated 273 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:34,000 when people get the deformed hallucinations. 274 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,000 There is another part of the brain 275 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,000 which is especially activated 276 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,000 when one sees cartoons. 277 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,000 It's activated when one recognizes cartoons, 278 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:47,000 when one draws cartoons, and when one hallucinates them. 279 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:50,000 It's very interesting that that should be specific. 280 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:53,000 There are other parts of the brain which are specifically involved 281 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,000 with the recognition and hallucination 282 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:58,000 of buildings and landscapes. 283 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,000 Around 1970, it was found that there were not only parts of the brain, 284 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,000 but particular cells. 285 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:08,000 "Face cells" were discovered around 1970. 286 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,000 And now we know that there are hundreds of other 287 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,000 sorts of cells, 288 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,000 which can be very, very specific. 289 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,000 So you may not only have 290 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,000 "car" cells, 291 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,000 you may have "Aston Martin" cells. 292 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,000 (Laughter) 293 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,000 I saw an Aston Martin this morning. 294 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,000 I had to bring it in. 295 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:30,000 And now it's in there somewhere. 296 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,000 (Laughter) 297 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:37,000 Now, at this level, in what's called the inferotemporal cortex, 298 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,000 there are only visual images, 299 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,000 or figments or fragments. 300 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,000 It's only at higher levels 301 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,000 that the other senses join in 302 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,000 and there are connections with memory and emotion. 303 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,000 And in the Charles Bonnet syndrome, 304 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,000 you don't go to those higher levels. 305 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,000 You're in these levels of inferior visual cortex 306 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,000 where you have thousands and tens of thousands 307 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,000 and millions of images, 308 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,000 or figments, or fragmentary figments, 309 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,000 all neurally encoded 310 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:11,000 in particular cells or small clusters of cells. 311 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:14,000 Normally these are all part of 312 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:18,000 the integrated stream of perception, or imagination, 313 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,000 and one is not conscious of them. 314 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:25,000 It is only if one is visually impaired or blind 315 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,000 that the process is interrupted. 316 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,000 And instead of getting normal perception, 317 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,000 you're getting an anarchic, 318 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,000 convulsive stimulation, or release, 319 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,000 of all of these visual cells 320 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,000 in the inferotemporal cortex. 321 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,000 So, suddenly you see a face. Suddenly you see a car. 322 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:45,000 Suddenly this, and suddenly that. 323 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,000 The mind does its best to organize 324 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:50,000 and to give some sort of coherence to this, 325 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,000 but not terribly successfully. 326 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,000 When these were first described, 327 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:58,000 it was thought that they could be interpreted like dreams. 328 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,000 But in fact people say, 329 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,000 "I don't recognize the people. I can't form any associations." 330 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,000 "Kermit means nothing to me." 331 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:11,000 You don't get anywhere thinking of them as dreams. 332 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:16,000 Well, I've more or less said what I wanted. 333 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,000 I think I just want to recapitulate 334 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,000 and say this is common. 335 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,000 Think of the number of blind people. 336 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,000 There must be hundreds of thousands of blind people 337 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,000 who have these hallucinations, 338 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,000 but are too scared to mention them. 339 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,000 So this sort of thing needs to be brought into 340 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:38,000 notice, for patients, for doctors, for the public. 341 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,000 Finally, I think they are 342 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,000 infinitely interesting and valuable, 343 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:47,000 for giving one some insight as to how the brain works. 344 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,000 Charles Bonnet said, 250 years ago -- 345 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:54,000 he wondered how, thinking these hallucinations, 346 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:57,000 how, as he put it, the theater of the mind 347 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:00,000 could be generated by the machinery of the brain. 348 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,000 Now, 250 years later, 349 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,000 I think we're beginning to glimpse how this is done. 350 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,000 Thanks very much. 351 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,000 (Applause) 352 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,000 Chris Anderson: That was superb. Thank you so much. 353 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,000 You speak about these things with so much insight 354 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,000 and empathy for your patients. 355 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:24,000 Have you yourself experienced any of the syndromes you write about? 356 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,000 Oliver Sacks: I was afraid you'd ask that. 357 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,000 (Laughter) 358 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,000 Well, yeah, a lot of them. 359 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,000 And actually I'm a little visually impaired myself. 360 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,000 I'm blind in one eye, and not terribly good in the other. 361 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:40,000 And I see the geometrical hallucinations. 362 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,000 But they stop there. 363 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,000 CA: And they don't disturb you? 364 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,000 Because you understand what's doing it, it doesn't make you worried? 365 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:50,000 OS: Well they don't disturb me any more than my tinnitus, 366 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:53,000 which I ignore. 367 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,000 They occasionally interest me, 368 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:58,000 and I have many pictures of them in my notebooks. 369 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,000 I've gone and had an fMRI myself, 370 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,000 to see how my visual cortex is taking over. 371 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:08,000 And when I see all these hexagons 372 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,000 and complex things, which I also have, 373 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,000 in visual migraine, 374 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,000 I wonder whether everyone sees things like this, 375 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,000 and whether things like cave art or ornamental art 376 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,000 may have been derived from them a bit. 377 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,000 CA: That was an utterly, utterly fascinating talk. 378 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,000 Thank you so much for sharing. 379 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,000 OS: Thank you. Thank you. 380 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,000 (Applause)