War and peace in the 21st century -- the stories in our minds | Daniele Ganser | TEDxDanubia
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0:09 - 0:11I am a historian,
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0:11 - 0:14and I want to talk about the future.
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0:15 - 0:20I know that's a little bit strange because
historians usually speak about the past, -
0:20 - 0:20right?
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0:21 - 0:25They talk about the 19th century
and the British Empire, for instance. -
0:26 - 0:30But I think now is the time,
when we all are interested -
0:30 - 0:33in this this crucial question of:
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0:33 - 0:36Will there be more peace
in the 21st century? -
0:37 - 0:42Because that is exactly the century
where we live, where our kids live, -
0:42 - 0:45and that's why we are interested
in this question. -
0:46 - 0:52Right now, we know that we have
both war and peace at the same time, -
0:52 - 0:54but in different countries.
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0:54 - 0:59As we gather here, we have a war
in Syria right now, going on. -
0:59 - 1:01About 400,000 people killed.
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1:02 - 1:05And we realize that we can
only have this gathering, -
1:05 - 1:08have these very interesting speeches
that I much enjoy, -
1:09 - 1:11because we have peace in Budapest.
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1:13 - 1:18This picture to the left is a picture
that shows that we can coexist peacefully -
1:18 - 1:21among different religions,
and among different nations, -
1:21 - 1:23also among genders.
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1:24 - 1:30The picture to the right shows
that at times, we find ourselves in wars. -
1:30 - 1:33This picture was taken in the Iraq war.
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1:33 - 1:37One million Muslims
were killed in that war. -
1:38 - 1:43To me, it is a war
for resources: an oil war. -
1:44 - 1:49So some researchers have suggested
that technology should save us. -
1:50 - 1:53Green growth, solar cells,
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1:53 - 1:57should take us out of these wars
that we fight for oil and gas. -
1:57 - 1:59You know, I have this hope.
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1:59 - 2:05I really hope that 100% renewable
is something that we together can do -
2:06 - 2:07in the 21st century.
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2:07 - 2:10In fact, I live in Switzerland.
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2:10 - 2:12On my house, I put these solar cells.
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2:12 - 2:15In fact not these, that's not my house,
I don't have a house that big. -
2:15 - 2:19But the solar cells,
I put them on my house -
2:19 - 2:21and they create electricity.
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2:21 - 2:23It works, trust me.
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2:23 - 2:25I even bought the car.
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2:25 - 2:28It's an American car,
I'm not allowed to say the brand. -
2:28 - 2:30But it's very fast and I really like it.
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2:31 - 2:34So I use the energy from the sun
to drive around with my car -
2:34 - 2:38and I did 40,000 km with the car,
and I tell you, it works. -
2:39 - 2:40But at the same time,
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2:40 - 2:45I advise you not to believe
that this transition -
2:45 - 2:48from oil, coal, gas, and nuclear energy
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2:48 - 2:51to the renewable energies
will be fast and easy. -
2:51 - 2:54I don't think it will be fast
and I don't think it will be easy. -
2:54 - 2:58Why? We have old forces,
they keep us captive. -
2:58 - 3:02This is a picture
of the coal industry in Germany. -
3:02 - 3:04I don't want to say
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3:04 - 3:06that the coal industry in Germany is evil,
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3:06 - 3:08or that coal industry in China is evil.
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3:08 - 3:10It's not about nations, OK?
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3:11 - 3:15But these are business models
and people make money. -
3:16 - 3:19So they're not going to say,
"OK, then we stop with this business," -
3:19 - 3:23because it is great idea of 100%
renewable energies, OK? -
3:23 - 3:25They are not going to do that.
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3:25 - 3:29In fact, if we look in detail
at our dependency on fossil fuels, -
3:30 - 3:35we realize that we need
90 million barrels of oil every day. -
3:38 - 3:41That's such a big number
that we can't relate to it. -
3:41 - 3:45But is means that we need
45 of these ships every day. -
3:45 - 3:47That's a supertanker, OK?
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3:47 - 3:5045 of these ships every day
is what we need -
3:50 - 3:53otherwise the world,
as we know it, doesn't work. -
3:53 - 3:56In 1945, at the end
of the second World War, -
3:56 - 3:59we only used six million barrels.
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3:59 - 4:02Now it's 90 million barrels.
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4:02 - 4:07Every barrel has 159 liters,
so trust me, it's a lot of oil. -
4:08 - 4:12And what we really experience
then during the last 70 years, -
4:12 - 4:14that's, you know,
the period that we all shared, -
4:14 - 4:16some of you are not 70, others are 70,
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4:16 - 4:18but just generally speaking,
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4:18 - 4:23our life is a life in which
our dependency on oil has grown. -
4:25 - 4:28And that's why we take
greater risks to get at the oil. -
4:30 - 4:33In some cases we take oil
that is not liquid. -
4:34 - 4:38We go to Canada, we cut down the wood,
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4:39 - 4:41and that's how it looks.
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4:42 - 4:46So really, I think we behave
very much like a drug addict. -
4:47 - 4:49You know drug addicts?
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4:50 - 4:54Not in your vicinity, but just generally,
from newspapers or so. -
4:54 - 4:56(Laughter)
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4:56 - 4:57A drug addict, OK?
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4:58 - 5:02He does whatever
it takes to get at his drug. -
5:02 - 5:06He doesn't care about the damage he does
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5:06 - 5:08to his environment and to himself.
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5:08 - 5:11So really I think this transition
will be difficult. -
5:12 - 5:16I think energy is a key issue
in the 21st century. -
5:16 - 5:21If we think about war and we think
about peace in the 21st century -
5:21 - 5:24we must try to go towards
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5:24 - 5:27100% renewable energy.
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5:27 - 5:29That is challenging, I know.
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5:29 - 5:32There is another thing
which is even more challenging: -
5:33 - 5:34That is the military.
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5:37 - 5:41The military in every country
- we have 200 countries in the world - -
5:41 - 5:43in every single country,
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5:43 - 5:48the military is convinced
that they are a force for peace. -
5:50 - 5:54In Switzerland it is like that
and in Hungary it is like that, I'll bet. -
5:55 - 6:00But historical data of the last 100 years
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6:01 - 6:03prove that that's not true.
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6:04 - 6:06I'm not going into the specifics.
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6:08 - 6:12Generally speaking, I think, we also
have to reduce military spending. -
6:13 - 6:15And we have to ask ourselves,
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6:15 - 6:18what is the strongest,
the biggest military? -
6:19 - 6:21It's the American military.
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6:21 - 6:26That's why us historians,
we use the term "US Empire." -
6:27 - 6:30Some people find this term offensive.
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6:30 - 6:32I assure you, it's not offensive.
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6:33 - 6:362000 years ago we had the Roman Empire,
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6:36 - 6:39100 years ago we had the British Empire.
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6:39 - 6:42Now we have the American Empire.
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6:42 - 6:46United States is the most
powerful country in the world -
6:46 - 6:50and that's why it plays
a key issue, a key role -
6:50 - 6:53when it comes to war and peace
in the 21st century. -
6:54 - 6:57They have more then 700
military bases across the globe. -
6:58 - 7:00No other country
has so many military bases. -
7:00 - 7:02If you look at defense spending,
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7:02 - 7:07US defense spending is almost 600 billion.
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7:07 - 7:10that's 2 billion dollars a day.
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7:10 - 7:13That's bigger than the TED budget, OK?
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7:14 - 7:162 billion dollars a day.
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7:17 - 7:20If you look at defensive spending
in China around 200 billion, -
7:20 - 7:23then Russia and Saudi Arabia
and the rest of the world. -
7:23 - 7:28So my idea is that in all countries
we should reduce military spending. -
7:28 - 7:30It's difficult.
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7:30 - 7:34Whether we can make it or not
depends a lot on the media. -
7:36 - 7:39Because the media
puts a lot of stories in our head. -
7:40 - 7:43Sometimes these stories
help to promote peace, -
7:43 - 7:48and other times the media
presents war propaganda. -
7:49 - 7:53So then media is not the solution,
but more of the problem. -
7:54 - 7:58We heard the weapon of mass destruction
story before the Iraq war. -
7:59 - 8:03I think, that's an example
of how the media has misled us. -
8:03 - 8:08It's very critical that we learn
to deal with media in the 21st century. -
8:09 - 8:12As historians, we research
what US soldiers -
8:12 - 8:16who fight in Iraq are thinking.
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8:16 - 8:19There are interviews being done
with those soldiers. -
8:19 - 8:24And trust me, they don't say,
"We are here in Iraq to grab the oil. -
8:25 - 8:28This is a resource war,
a war of conquest." -
8:28 - 8:30That's not what they say.
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8:31 - 8:38US soldiers in Iraq say, "We are here
to retaliate for Saddam Hussein's role -
8:38 - 8:42in the terrorist attacks
of September 11, 2001." -
8:42 - 8:48On their helmet they paint
the twin towers on the Pentagon. -
8:49 - 8:52Now the problem is -
and I can tell you as historian - -
8:53 - 8:57there was no role
of Saddam Hussein in 9/11. -
8:57 - 8:59Nothing, OK?
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8:59 - 9:03These soldiers are terribly mistaken.
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9:03 - 9:06They are suffering from war propaganda.
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9:08 - 9:12What we then do is we go back to 9/11.
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9:12 - 9:17It's been 15 years
since these attacks shocked the word. -
9:17 - 9:21Most of you in the room even remember
where you were on that day -
9:21 - 9:23whether they were at the office,
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9:23 - 9:26or whether they were at home
playing with the kids. -
9:26 - 9:29
You know, wherever you were, -
9:29 - 9:32you probably remember,
and that's very, very rare, OK? -
9:33 - 9:37What we research right now
is we try to find out -
9:37 - 9:40what's the picture in our mind
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9:40 - 9:44that the media constructed
with this event. -
9:44 - 9:50The picture is - this is a picture
of New York, downtown Manhattan - -
9:50 - 9:52that one plane flew in the North Tower
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9:52 - 9:55and the other plane
flew into the South Tower, -
9:55 - 9:57and than the towers collapsed.
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9:57 - 9:59That's basically 9/11 for most of us.
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9:59 - 10:01Plane, plane, tower, tower.
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10:02 - 10:06Now the problem is that in the background,
you have a third tower. -
10:06 - 10:11It's called World Trade Center Number 7
and this tower also collapsed. -
10:12 - 10:16So we have three towers,
but only two planes. -
10:18 - 10:21This is the third tower
and it collapsed on 9/11. -
10:22 - 10:26Let me just very quickly check
your knowledge on terrorism. -
10:26 - 10:29Who in the room was fully aware
that three towers collapsed on that day? -
10:29 - 10:31Maybe a show of hands.
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10:33 - 10:34That's not the majority.
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10:34 - 10:36Let me ask you the other way.
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10:36 - 10:39Who did not know
that three towers went down? -
10:40 - 10:41That's 80%.
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10:42 - 10:45Now keep in mind, that you are amongst
the most clever people -
10:45 - 10:49that exist because that's, you know,
because you come to TED that shows. -
10:49 - 10:51(Laughter)
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10:52 - 10:55I just urge you to,
if you don't know that, -
10:55 - 10:59then this means, that we are not
very well informed about terrorism at all. -
10:59 - 11:03At that time I was teaching history
at Zurich University in Switzerland -
11:03 - 11:06and my students had to read
the 9/11 commission report. -
11:06 - 11:09That's a 600-page thick document.
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11:09 - 11:13I wanted my students to find out
why did the third tower collapsed, OK? -
11:13 - 11:16It was not hit by plane,
why did it collapse? -
11:17 - 11:23We found that the third tower
is not mentioned in that report. -
11:24 - 11:29You know, no mentioning that three towers
collapsed, that's quite a big mistake. -
11:30 - 11:33You can't say, "Well three
or four towers, let's not be picky." -
11:33 - 11:34(Laughter)
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11:34 - 11:38It is important, it matters.
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11:39 - 11:44All I learnt about 9/11,
I learnt from my American friends. -
11:44 - 11:48I have researchers in the United States
who told me there's a group: -
11:48 - 11:52It's called "Architects
and Engineers for 9/11 Truth" -
11:52 - 11:55who says there's something wrong
with this building. -
11:55 - 11:56And what this group says is
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11:57 - 12:00this building was brought down
through controlled demolition. -
12:01 - 12:06In 2008, the US Government
published a new report. -
12:06 - 12:10- the National Institute for Standards
and Technology published that report - -
12:10 - 12:16which said: column 79 of the building
was destroyed through office fires -
12:17 - 12:20and that led to the free fall
of the building. -
12:23 - 12:24Think again.
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12:25 - 12:30The building has 81 columns,
and the architects say, -
12:30 - 12:33in order for the building
to fall symmetrically, -
12:33 - 12:36all 81 columns have to vanish
at the same second. -
12:37 - 12:39For that you need controlled demolition.
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12:40 - 12:46The NIST says: no, fire destroyed
one column and brought the building down. -
12:47 - 12:49Now I can't solve this riddle for you.
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12:50 - 12:54It's either fire or controlled demolition,
and you have to think for yourself. -
12:54 - 12:59As historians we observe that politicians
- very powerful politicians - -
12:59 - 13:02tell us not to ask these questions.
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13:03 - 13:06President Bush said,
"Osama bin Laden did it." -
13:06 - 13:09Osama bin Laden is from Saudi Arabia.
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13:09 - 13:14We look very closely at the relationship
between Bush and the Saudi royal family. -
13:15 - 13:17I took an interesting picture recently.
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13:18 - 13:25It's Bush and Abdullah in Crawford
in Texas, hand in hand. -
13:26 - 13:29You know, it would be interesting
to talk with Saudi Arabia -
13:29 - 13:30about 9/11, or with Bush.
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13:30 - 13:32But obviously we can't.
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13:32 - 13:35I'm just a small Swiss historian,
I have no access to these people. -
13:35 - 13:38I can't talk with them about column 79.
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13:39 - 13:43What Bush said is, "Let us never tolerate
outrageous conspiracy theories -
13:43 - 13:45concerning the attacks of September 11."
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13:45 - 13:47He said that immediately
after the attacks. -
13:47 - 13:50And this word "conspiracy theories"
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13:50 - 13:54has blocked the entire 9/11 debate
now for 15 years. -
13:54 - 13:57And I can only tell you
that's total nonsense. -
13:58 - 14:01That doesn't tell us whether it's fire
or controlled demolition. -
14:01 - 14:03It's not a scientific concept.
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14:04 - 14:08What I urge you to do is to go beyond
this word "conspiracy theories", -
14:08 - 14:12and I urge you to question
all power brokers -
14:12 - 14:15that we see, and their narratives.
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14:15 - 14:18Because now we have Putin
and his war in Syria. -
14:18 - 14:23Ask yourself whether the story
that Putin presents is true or wrong, -
14:23 - 14:28or look at IS: their story is
that if you blow yourself up, -
14:28 - 14:31you're going to have
virgins in heaven, OK? -
14:31 - 14:33Do you believe that?
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14:33 - 14:35Ask yourself.
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14:35 - 14:37I think within war and peace,
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14:37 - 14:41we always have to look
at this crucial issue in the end: -
14:41 - 14:44how the media tells us stories.
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14:44 - 14:48In this case, ABC News in America
said after 9/11: -
14:48 - 14:52"FBI investigators discovered
the passport of Satam al Suqami." -
14:52 - 14:55- is not Saddam it's Satam al Suqami -
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14:55 - 14:58one of the terrorists aboard
American Airlines Flight 11, -
14:58 - 15:00the first plane to hit
the World Trade Center. -
15:00 - 15:02Where did they find that passport?
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15:03 - 15:04Here.
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15:07 - 15:10This passport was found here
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15:11 - 15:14and linked the Muslim world to terrorism.
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15:15 - 15:18Had it been a Hindu passport,
too bad for the Hindus. -
15:18 - 15:23I tell you it is very important
what we have in our head. -
15:24 - 15:27Because what we have
in our head is our thoughts. -
15:28 - 15:31Our thoughts shape our actions,
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15:32 - 15:34they influence our feelings.
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15:35 - 15:39So ultimately, I think
that is the story in your head -
15:39 - 15:45will decide whether we have more peace
or more war in the 21st century. -
15:45 - 15:46Thank you very much.
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15:46 - 15:49(Applause)
- Title:
- War and peace in the 21st century -- the stories in our minds | Daniele Ganser | TEDxDanubia
- Description:
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There is a strong relationship between energy resources and the strategic interests of empires – states Daniele Ganser. He argues that most wars seem to be resource wars, whether in the past or the present. And to justify these wars, power players use media and carefully crafted narratives to conquer and control people’s minds and hearts. We should be careful, however, not to fall for everything we are presented with, says Daniele. We need to ask questions and question motives. We owe it to ourselves and to our children, since this may ultimately make the difference between war and peace.
One of the most intriguing historians of our times, Daniele Ganser specializes in international history after 1945, geostrategy, secret warfare and intelligence services as well as international politics, focusing on the relationship between energy and politics. He aims to uncover and analyze frequently hidden and dangerous agendas of imperial powers in relation to energy and resources; dynamics that have an enormous impact in shaping our collective future and well‐being.
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