[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:09.06,0:00:10.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am a historian, Dialogue: 0,0:00:11.22,0:00:13.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I want to talk about the future. Dialogue: 0,0:00:14.73,0:00:19.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know that's a little bit strange because\Nhistorians usually speak about the past, Dialogue: 0,0:00:19.52,0:00:20.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,right? Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.73,0:00:24.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They talk about the 19th century\Nand the British Empire, for instance. Dialogue: 0,0:00:25.51,0:00:30.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I think now is the time, \Nwhen we all are interested Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.09,0:00:32.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in this this crucial question of: Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.56,0:00:36.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Will there be more peace \Nin the 21st century? Dialogue: 0,0:00:36.91,0:00:41.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because that is exactly the century\Nwhere we live, where our kids live, Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.74,0:00:45.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's why we are interested \Nin this question. Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.71,0:00:51.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Right now, we know that we have \Nboth war and peace at the same time, Dialogue: 0,0:00:52.13,0:00:53.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but in different countries. Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.18,0:00:58.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As we gather here, we have a war\Nin Syria right now, going on. Dialogue: 0,0:00:58.88,0:01:01.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,About 400,000 people killed. Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.61,0:01:05.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we realize that we can\Nonly have this gathering, Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.38,0:01:08.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have these very interesting speeches\Nthat I much enjoy, Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.73,0:01:11.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because we have peace in Budapest. Dialogue: 0,0:01:12.71,0:01:17.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This picture to the left is a picture\Nthat shows that we can coexist peacefully Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.77,0:01:21.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,among different religions,\Nand among different nations, Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.27,0:01:23.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,also among genders. Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.76,0:01:29.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The picture to the right shows\Nthat at times, we find ourselves in wars. Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.45,0:01:33.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This picture was taken in the Iraq war. Dialogue: 0,0:01:33.44,0:01:37.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One million Muslims\Nwere killed in that war. Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.47,0:01:43.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To me, it is a war\Nfor resources: an oil war. Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.49,0:01:49.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So some researchers have suggested\Nthat technology should save us. Dialogue: 0,0:01:50.27,0:01:52.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Green growth, solar cells, Dialogue: 0,0:01:52.64,0:01:56.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,should take us out of these wars\Nthat we fight for oil and gas. Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.34,0:01:58.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, I have this hope. Dialogue: 0,0:01:59.13,0:02:05.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I really hope that 100% renewable\Nis something that we together can do Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.77,0:02:07.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the 21st century. Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.50,0:02:09.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact, I live in Switzerland. Dialogue: 0,0:02:09.52,0:02:12.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On my house, I put these solar cells. Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.02,0:02:15.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact not these, that's not my house,\NI don't have a house that big. Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.30,0:02:19.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the solar cells,\NI put them on my house Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.46,0:02:21.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they create electricity.\N Dialogue: 0,0:02:21.21,0:02:22.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It works, trust me. Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.22,0:02:24.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I even bought the car.\N Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.72,0:02:27.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's an American car,\NI'm not allowed to say the brand. Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.55,0:02:29.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it's very fast and I really like it. Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.72,0:02:34.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I use the energy from the sun\Nto drive around with my car Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.28,0:02:37.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I did 40,000 km with the car,\Nand I tell you, it works. Dialogue: 0,0:02:38.53,0:02:40.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But at the same time, Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.34,0:02:44.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I advise you not to believe \Nthat this transition Dialogue: 0,0:02:44.57,0:02:48.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from oil, coal, gas, and nuclear energy Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.46,0:02:50.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the renewable energies\Nwill be fast and easy. Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.98,0:02:54.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't think it will be fast\Nand I don't think it will be easy. Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.42,0:02:58.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why? We have old forces,\Nthey keep us captive. Dialogue: 0,0:02:58.45,0:03:01.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a picture\Nof the coal industry in Germany. Dialogue: 0,0:03:02.20,0:03:03.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't want to say\N Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.73,0:03:06.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the coal industry in Germany is evil, Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.08,0:03:08.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or that coal industry in China is evil. Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.37,0:03:10.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not about nations, OK? Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.98,0:03:15.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But these are business models \Nand people make money. Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.55,0:03:18.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So they're not going to say,\N"OK, then we stop with this business," Dialogue: 0,0:03:18.90,0:03:23.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it is great idea of 100% \Nrenewable energies, OK? Dialogue: 0,0:03:23.08,0:03:24.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are not going to do that. Dialogue: 0,0:03:24.71,0:03:29.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact, if we look in detail \Nat our dependency on fossil fuels, Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.73,0:03:35.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we realize that we need \N90 million barrels of oil every day. Dialogue: 0,0:03:37.96,0:03:40.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's such a big number\Nthat we can't relate to it. Dialogue: 0,0:03:40.55,0:03:45.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But is means that we need \N45 of these ships every day. Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.04,0:03:46.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's a supertanker, OK? Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.88,0:03:49.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,45 of these ships every day \Nis what we need Dialogue: 0,0:03:49.66,0:03:52.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,otherwise the world,\Nas we know it, doesn't work. Dialogue: 0,0:03:53.05,0:03:55.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In 1945, at the end\Nof the second World War, Dialogue: 0,0:03:56.15,0:03:59.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we only used six million barrels.\N Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.05,0:04:01.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now it's 90 million barrels. Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.59,0:04:06.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every barrel has 159 liters,\Nso trust me, it's a lot of oil. Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.07,0:04:11.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what we really experience\Nthen during the last 70 years, Dialogue: 0,0:04:11.64,0:04:13.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's, you know, \Nthe period that we all shared, Dialogue: 0,0:04:13.93,0:04:16.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some of you are not 70, others are 70, Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.19,0:04:18.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but just generally speaking, Dialogue: 0,0:04:18.18,0:04:23.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our life is a life in which\Nour dependency on oil has grown. Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.63,0:04:28.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's why we take \Ngreater risks to get at the oil. Dialogue: 0,0:04:30.06,0:04:33.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In some cases we take oil \Nthat is not liquid. Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.47,0:04:38.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We go to Canada, we cut down the wood,\N Dialogue: 0,0:04:39.31,0:04:40.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's how it looks. Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.18,0:04:45.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So really, I think we behave \Nvery much like a drug addict. Dialogue: 0,0:04:47.19,0:04:48.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know drug addicts? Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.46,0:04:54.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not in your vicinity, but just generally, \Nfrom newspapers or so. Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.38,0:04:55.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:04:55.68,0:04:57.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A drug addict, OK? Dialogue: 0,0:04:58.24,0:05:02.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He does whatever \Nit takes to get at his drug. Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.05,0:05:05.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He doesn't care about the damage he does Dialogue: 0,0:05:05.82,0:05:08.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to his environment and to himself. Dialogue: 0,0:05:08.10,0:05:11.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So really I think this transition\Nwill be difficult. Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.45,0:05:16.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think energy is a key issue\Nin the 21st century. Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.45,0:05:20.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we think about war and we think \Nabout peace in the 21st century Dialogue: 0,0:05:21.08,0:05:24.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we must try to go towards Dialogue: 0,0:05:24.20,0:05:26.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,100% renewable energy. Dialogue: 0,0:05:27.32,0:05:29.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is challenging, I know. Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.48,0:05:32.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is another thing\Nwhich is even more challenging: Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.69,0:05:34.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is the military. Dialogue: 0,0:05:36.75,0:05:40.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The military in every country\N- we have 200 countries in the world - Dialogue: 0,0:05:40.89,0:05:42.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in every single country, Dialogue: 0,0:05:43.15,0:05:48.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the military is convinced\Nthat they are a force for peace. Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.18,0:05:53.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In Switzerland it is like that \Nand in Hungary it is like that, I'll bet. Dialogue: 0,0:05:55.12,0:06:00.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But historical data of the last 100 years\N Dialogue: 0,0:06:01.01,0:06:03.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,prove that that's not true. Dialogue: 0,0:06:04.07,0:06:06.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm not going into the specifics. Dialogue: 0,0:06:07.79,0:06:12.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Generally speaking, I think, we also \Nhave to reduce military spending. Dialogue: 0,0:06:13.04,0:06:14.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we have to ask ourselves, Dialogue: 0,0:06:15.38,0:06:18.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what is the strongest,\Nthe biggest military? Dialogue: 0,0:06:19.11,0:06:20.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's the American military. Dialogue: 0,0:06:21.46,0:06:26.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's why us historians,\Nwe use the term "US Empire." Dialogue: 0,0:06:27.40,0:06:29.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some people find this term offensive.\N Dialogue: 0,0:06:29.81,0:06:32.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I assure you, it's not offensive. Dialogue: 0,0:06:32.79,0:06:35.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,2000 years ago we had the Roman Empire, Dialogue: 0,0:06:36.41,0:06:39.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,100 years ago we had the British Empire. Dialogue: 0,0:06:39.41,0:06:41.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now we have the American Empire.\N Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.29,0:06:46.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,United States is the most\Npowerful country in the world Dialogue: 0,0:06:46.01,0:06:50.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's why it plays \Na key issue, a key role Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.20,0:06:53.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when it comes to war and peace\Nin the 21st century. Dialogue: 0,0:06:53.60,0:06:57.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They have more then 700 \Nmilitary bases across the globe. Dialogue: 0,0:06:57.70,0:07:00.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No other country\Nhas so many military bases. Dialogue: 0,0:07:00.14,0:07:02.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you look at defense spending, Dialogue: 0,0:07:02.30,0:07:06.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,US defense spending is almost 600 billion. Dialogue: 0,0:07:07.19,0:07:09.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's 2 billion dollars a day. Dialogue: 0,0:07:10.41,0:07:12.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's bigger than the TED budget, OK? Dialogue: 0,0:07:13.83,0:07:15.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,2 billion dollars a day. Dialogue: 0,0:07:16.70,0:07:20.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you look at defensive spending \Nin China around 200 billion, Dialogue: 0,0:07:20.16,0:07:22.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then Russia and Saudi Arabia\Nand the rest of the world. Dialogue: 0,0:07:22.78,0:07:27.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So my idea is that in all countries \Nwe should reduce military spending. Dialogue: 0,0:07:28.22,0:07:29.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's difficult. Dialogue: 0,0:07:29.74,0:07:33.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whether we can make it or not\Ndepends a lot on the media. Dialogue: 0,0:07:35.52,0:07:38.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because the media\Nputs a lot of stories in our head. Dialogue: 0,0:07:39.80,0:07:42.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes these stories\Nhelp to promote peace, Dialogue: 0,0:07:42.79,0:07:48.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and other times the media\Npresents war propaganda. Dialogue: 0,0:07:48.83,0:07:52.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So then media is not the solution, \Nbut more of the problem. Dialogue: 0,0:07:53.92,0:07:58.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We heard the weapon of mass destruction\Nstory before the Iraq war. Dialogue: 0,0:07:58.75,0:08:02.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think, that's an example \Nof how the media has misled us. Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.01,0:08:08.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's very critical that we learn \Nto deal with media in the 21st century. Dialogue: 0,0:08:09.29,0:08:12.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As historians, we research\Nwhat US soldiers Dialogue: 0,0:08:12.17,0:08:15.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who fight in Iraq are thinking. Dialogue: 0,0:08:16.34,0:08:19.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are interviews being done\Nwith those soldiers. Dialogue: 0,0:08:19.05,0:08:24.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And trust me, they don't say,\N"We are here in Iraq to grab the oil. Dialogue: 0,0:08:25.11,0:08:28.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a resource war, \Na war of conquest." Dialogue: 0,0:08:28.42,0:08:30.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's not what they say. Dialogue: 0,0:08:30.99,0:08:37.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,US soldiers in Iraq say, "We are here\Nto retaliate for Saddam Hussein's role Dialogue: 0,0:08:37.77,0:08:42.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the terrorist attacks \Nof September 11, 2001." Dialogue: 0,0:08:42.09,0:08:47.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On their helmet they paint\Nthe twin towers on the Pentagon. Dialogue: 0,0:08:48.52,0:08:52.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now the problem is - \Nand I can tell you as historian - Dialogue: 0,0:08:52.61,0:08:56.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there was no role\Nof Saddam Hussein in 9/11. Dialogue: 0,0:08:57.04,0:08:58.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nothing, OK? Dialogue: 0,0:08:59.22,0:09:02.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These soldiers are terribly mistaken. Dialogue: 0,0:09:03.11,0:09:06.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are suffering from war propaganda. Dialogue: 0,0:09:07.58,0:09:11.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What we then do is we go back to 9/11. Dialogue: 0,0:09:11.50,0:09:16.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's been 15 years\Nsince these attacks shocked the word. Dialogue: 0,0:09:17.12,0:09:21.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Most of you in the room even remember \Nwhere you were on that day Dialogue: 0,0:09:21.33,0:09:22.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whether they were at the office,\N Dialogue: 0,0:09:22.99,0:09:26.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or whether they were at home\Nplaying with the kids. Dialogue: 0,0:09:26.34,0:09:28.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,\NYou know, wherever you were, Dialogue: 0,0:09:28.71,0:09:31.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you probably remember,\Nand that's very, very rare, OK? Dialogue: 0,0:09:32.65,0:09:36.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What we research right now\Nis we try to find out Dialogue: 0,0:09:36.88,0:09:39.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what's the picture in our mind Dialogue: 0,0:09:39.55,0:09:43.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the media constructed \Nwith this event. Dialogue: 0,0:09:43.78,0:09:49.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The picture is - this is a picture\Nof New York, downtown Manhattan - Dialogue: 0,0:09:49.59,0:09:52.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that one plane flew in the North Tower\N Dialogue: 0,0:09:52.20,0:09:54.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the other plane \Nflew into the South Tower, Dialogue: 0,0:09:54.53,0:09:56.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and than the towers collapsed. Dialogue: 0,0:09:56.78,0:09:58.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's basically 9/11 for most of us. Dialogue: 0,0:09:58.93,0:10:00.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Plane, plane, tower, tower. Dialogue: 0,0:10:01.71,0:10:06.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now the problem is that in the background,\Nyou have a third tower. Dialogue: 0,0:10:06.30,0:10:11.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's called World Trade Center Number 7 \Nand this tower also collapsed. Dialogue: 0,0:10:12.08,0:10:16.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we have three towers, \Nbut only two planes. Dialogue: 0,0:10:17.52,0:10:21.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the third tower \Nand it collapsed on 9/11. Dialogue: 0,0:10:21.74,0:10:25.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let me just very quickly check\Nyour knowledge on terrorism. Dialogue: 0,0:10:26.04,0:10:29.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who in the room was fully aware\Nthat three towers collapsed on that day? Dialogue: 0,0:10:29.44,0:10:31.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe a show of hands. Dialogue: 0,0:10:32.91,0:10:34.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's not the majority. Dialogue: 0,0:10:34.27,0:10:35.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let me ask you the other way. Dialogue: 0,0:10:35.78,0:10:38.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who did not know\Nthat three towers went down? Dialogue: 0,0:10:39.53,0:10:41.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's 80%. Dialogue: 0,0:10:41.87,0:10:44.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now keep in mind, that you are amongst\Nthe most clever people Dialogue: 0,0:10:45.34,0:10:49.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that exist because that's, you know,\Nbecause you come to TED that shows. Dialogue: 0,0:10:49.31,0:10:51.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:10:51.73,0:10:54.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just urge you to,\Nif you don't know that, Dialogue: 0,0:10:54.55,0:10:58.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then this means, that we are not \Nvery well informed about terrorism at all. Dialogue: 0,0:10:59.02,0:11:03.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At that time I was teaching history \Nat Zurich University in Switzerland Dialogue: 0,0:11:03.04,0:11:05.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and my students had to read\Nthe 9/11 commission report. Dialogue: 0,0:11:05.99,0:11:08.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's a 600-page thick document.\N Dialogue: 0,0:11:09.32,0:11:13.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wanted my students to find out\Nwhy did the third tower collapsed, OK? Dialogue: 0,0:11:13.47,0:11:16.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was not hit by plane,\Nwhy did it collapse? Dialogue: 0,0:11:16.58,0:11:23.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We found that the third tower \Nis not mentioned in that report. Dialogue: 0,0:11:24.24,0:11:29.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, no mentioning that three towers \Ncollapsed, that's quite a big mistake. Dialogue: 0,0:11:29.89,0:11:33.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can't say, "Well three\Nor four towers, let's not be picky." Dialogue: 0,0:11:33.26,0:11:34.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:11:34.41,0:11:37.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is important, it matters. Dialogue: 0,0:11:38.81,0:11:43.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All I learnt about 9/11, \NI learnt from my American friends. Dialogue: 0,0:11:44.13,0:11:48.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have researchers in the United States\Nwho told me there's a group: Dialogue: 0,0:11:48.23,0:11:51.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's called "Architects\Nand Engineers for 9/11 Truth" Dialogue: 0,0:11:51.89,0:11:54.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who says there's something wrong\Nwith this building. Dialogue: 0,0:11:54.79,0:11:56.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what this group says is Dialogue: 0,0:11:56.51,0:12:00.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this building was brought down\Nthrough controlled demolition. Dialogue: 0,0:12:01.19,0:12:05.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In 2008, the US Government \Npublished a new report. Dialogue: 0,0:12:05.91,0:12:09.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- the National Institute for Standards\Nand Technology published that report - Dialogue: 0,0:12:09.61,0:12:16.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which said: column 79 of the building \Nwas destroyed through office fires Dialogue: 0,0:12:16.82,0:12:20.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that led to the free fall \Nof the building. Dialogue: 0,0:12:23.10,0:12:24.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Think again. Dialogue: 0,0:12:24.86,0:12:30.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The building has 81 columns,\Nand the architects say, Dialogue: 0,0:12:30.29,0:12:32.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in order for the building\Nto fall symmetrically, Dialogue: 0,0:12:32.94,0:12:36.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all 81 columns have to vanish \Nat the same second. Dialogue: 0,0:12:36.88,0:12:39.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For that you need controlled demolition. Dialogue: 0,0:12:39.65,0:12:46.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The NIST says: no, fire destroyed \None column and brought the building down. Dialogue: 0,0:12:46.73,0:12:49.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now I can't solve this riddle for you. Dialogue: 0,0:12:49.59,0:12:53.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's either fire or controlled demolition,\Nand you have to think for yourself. Dialogue: 0,0:12:54.15,0:12:58.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As historians we observe that politicians\N- very powerful politicians - Dialogue: 0,0:12:58.82,0:13:01.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tell us not to ask these questions. Dialogue: 0,0:13:02.80,0:13:06.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,President Bush said,\N"Osama bin Laden did it." Dialogue: 0,0:13:06.32,0:13:09.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Osama bin Laden is from Saudi Arabia. Dialogue: 0,0:13:09.47,0:13:14.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We look very closely at the relationship\Nbetween Bush and the Saudi royal family. Dialogue: 0,0:13:14.70,0:13:17.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I took an interesting picture recently. Dialogue: 0,0:13:18.45,0:13:24.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's Bush and Abdullah in Crawford\Nin Texas, hand in hand. Dialogue: 0,0:13:25.84,0:13:28.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, it would be interesting\Nto talk with Saudi Arabia Dialogue: 0,0:13:28.71,0:13:30.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about 9/11, or with Bush. Dialogue: 0,0:13:30.34,0:13:31.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But obviously we can't. Dialogue: 0,0:13:31.50,0:13:34.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm just a small Swiss historian,\NI have no access to these people. Dialogue: 0,0:13:34.68,0:13:38.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can't talk with them about column 79. Dialogue: 0,0:13:38.92,0:13:43.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What Bush said is, "Let us never tolerate \Noutrageous conspiracy theories Dialogue: 0,0:13:43.15,0:13:45.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,concerning the attacks of September 11." Dialogue: 0,0:13:45.09,0:13:47.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said that immediately\Nafter the attacks. Dialogue: 0,0:13:47.39,0:13:50.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this word "conspiracy theories" Dialogue: 0,0:13:50.13,0:13:53.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has blocked the entire 9/11 debate \Nnow for 15 years. Dialogue: 0,0:13:54.41,0:13:57.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I can only tell you\Nthat's total nonsense. Dialogue: 0,0:13:57.83,0:14:01.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That doesn't tell us whether it's fire\Nor controlled demolition. Dialogue: 0,0:14:01.18,0:14:03.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not a scientific concept. Dialogue: 0,0:14:03.80,0:14:08.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I urge you to do is to go beyond\Nthis word "conspiracy theories", Dialogue: 0,0:14:08.47,0:14:12.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I urge you to question \Nall power brokers Dialogue: 0,0:14:12.35,0:14:14.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we see, and their narratives. Dialogue: 0,0:14:14.65,0:14:17.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because now we have Putin \Nand his war in Syria. Dialogue: 0,0:14:18.25,0:14:23.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ask yourself whether the story \Nthat Putin presents is true or wrong, Dialogue: 0,0:14:23.06,0:14:28.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or look at IS: their story is\Nthat if you blow yourself up, Dialogue: 0,0:14:28.18,0:14:31.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're going to have \Nvirgins in heaven, OK? Dialogue: 0,0:14:31.34,0:14:32.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you believe that? Dialogue: 0,0:14:33.16,0:14:34.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ask yourself. Dialogue: 0,0:14:35.07,0:14:36.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think within war and peace,\N Dialogue: 0,0:14:36.83,0:14:40.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we always have to look\Nat this crucial issue in the end: Dialogue: 0,0:14:40.56,0:14:43.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how the media tells us stories. Dialogue: 0,0:14:43.65,0:14:48.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In this case, ABC News in America \Nsaid after 9/11: Dialogue: 0,0:14:48.45,0:14:52.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"FBI investigators discovered \Nthe passport of Satam al Suqami." Dialogue: 0,0:14:52.28,0:14:55.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- is not Saddam it's Satam al Suqami - Dialogue: 0,0:14:55.45,0:14:58.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one of the terrorists aboard\NAmerican Airlines Flight 11, Dialogue: 0,0:14:58.13,0:15:00.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the first plane to hit \Nthe World Trade Center. Dialogue: 0,0:15:00.36,0:15:02.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where did they find that passport? Dialogue: 0,0:15:02.98,0:15:04.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here. Dialogue: 0,0:15:06.92,0:15:09.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This passport was found here Dialogue: 0,0:15:11.23,0:15:14.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and linked the Muslim world to terrorism. Dialogue: 0,0:15:14.70,0:15:18.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Had it been a Hindu passport,\Ntoo bad for the Hindus. Dialogue: 0,0:15:18.16,0:15:23.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I tell you it is very important \Nwhat we have in our head. Dialogue: 0,0:15:24.48,0:15:27.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because what we have\Nin our head is our thoughts. Dialogue: 0,0:15:27.78,0:15:31.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our thoughts shape our actions,\N Dialogue: 0,0:15:32.07,0:15:34.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they influence our feelings. Dialogue: 0,0:15:34.84,0:15:39.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So ultimately, I think\Nthat is the story in your head Dialogue: 0,0:15:39.22,0:15:44.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will decide whether we have more peace\Nor more war in the 21st century. Dialogue: 0,0:15:44.75,0:15:46.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you very much. Dialogue: 0,0:15:46.30,0:15:48.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause)