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A Conversation With My Black Son | Op-Docs | The New York Times

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    My father's conversation
    with me was daily.
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    My grandfather talked to me as
    a black man from Augusta, Georgia,
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    growing up
    in the deep south.
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    It's probably right
    my older brother
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    had this conversation
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    but then it's more
    of like...
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    you know...
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    wear a condom, do this--
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    you know, it's like
    little man lessons.
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    When a cop
    pulls you over.
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    When you get pulled over,
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    not if
    you get pulled over.
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    At some point you
    will get pulled over.
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    And here is how you act.
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    As a young black man
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    growing up in New York
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    I've had, you know,
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    a few run-ins with the police
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    and being completely innocent.
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    Some people pull us out of the car,
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    throw us on the floor, it's in February,
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    so it's snow
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    and slush and stuff on the ground.
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    Put their knees on our back,
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    put their guns to our head.
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    As I'm putting my hands
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    on the steering wheel,
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    so I don't make the police nervous,
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    I realize how nervous I was.
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    and then I realize my
    children were nervous.
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    The thing that people say is
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    you have to talk to him
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    before he
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    experience racism himself.
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    But when is that?
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    He is going to turn into
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    a large scary black man.
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    And that is not who he is
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    but that's how he will be perceived.
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    And I know what this kid is going to
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    he's going to look like him.
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    You know, I know what
    he is going to look like.
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    I'm a large scary
    black man?
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    You are a large
    scary black man, okay?
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    That's a problem in and of itself.
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    I am not large. Nor scary.
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    I can't do anything
    with that.
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    I'm sure, anyway, go ahead.
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    It's frightening.
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    And I'm being very light
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    when I use the word frightening.
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    If something goes wrong
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    your first line
    of defense,
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    you know, the parents
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    not being there, is
    to go to the police.
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    If you're Caucasian.
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    That's what you
    teach your children.
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    Unfortunately it can't
    work for black children.
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    It doesn't mean
    that every
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    police officer is
    inherently a bad person.
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    But what it does mean is
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    that the police force,
    that institution,
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    does not look out
    for your best interest.
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    There's this unspoken code
    of racism
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    and white supremacy
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    that says that my life
    does not matter.
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    You can put your hands up
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    and cooperate
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    and say that I'm choking
    and still be killed
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    and then there is
    no repercussions.
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    It's maddening.
    I get so frustrated
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    and angry
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    about having
    to prepare my kids
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    for something that
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    that they're
    not responsible for.
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    I mean these are
    conversations that
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    people of other races
    do not
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    have to have
    with their children.
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    The conversation with
    him was really just:
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    "Look,
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    you are a beautiful young boy..."
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    Being an African American
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    is a wonderful thing,
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    it's a wonderful blessing.
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    You have come
    from great people.
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    But it's also a hard thing.
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    In America
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    because of your skin color
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    as a black boy
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    and as a black man
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    we are going to be dealing
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    with a lot of danger.
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    Under no circumstance
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    are you to talk
    to the police
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    if you're arrested
    until I get there.
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    Do what they say.
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    Don't get into any arguments.
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    Make sure your hands are out
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    of your pockets
    so they can see.
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    These are the questions
    you can ask.
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    This is who to call.
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    This is what happens
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    if this bad thing is done.
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    "Please master
    don't whip me" No!
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    It like: "Excuse me sir,
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    what is your batch
    number?
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    I'm going to film this."
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    If you want police
    brutality to stop.
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    If you want police
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    to treat you like a human being
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    you have to see yourself
    as a human being.
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    You have every right
    in this world
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    that anyone else does.
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    What I love about you
    as my son
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    is I remember
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    when we thought
    about having you
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    and, you know, knowing
    that we wanted you.
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    And watching you grow.
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    You are Muhammad Ali,
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    you are Malcolm X,
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    you are Martin Luther
    King.
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    You are an amazing
    young man
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    and the future is yours.
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    and I will do my best
    to make sure you're safe.
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    That's it.
    I love you.
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A Conversation With My Black Son | Op-Docs | The New York Times
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