1 00:00:14,500 --> 00:00:16,970 My father's conversation with me was daily. 2 00:00:16,970 --> 00:00:22,780 My grandfather talked to me as a black man from Augusta, Georgia, 3 00:00:22,820 --> 00:00:24,050 growing up in the deep south. 4 00:00:24,050 --> 00:00:25,490 It's probably right my older brother 5 00:00:25,490 --> 00:00:26,620 had this conversation 6 00:00:26,620 --> 00:00:28,260 but then it's more of like... 7 00:00:28,980 --> 00:00:30,540 you know... 8 00:00:30,540 --> 00:00:32,780 wear a condom, do this-- 9 00:00:32,780 --> 00:00:35,360 you know, it's like little man lessons. 10 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:36,920 When a cop pulls you over. 11 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:38,760 When you get pulled over, 12 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:40,630 not if you get pulled over. 13 00:00:40,630 --> 00:00:43,130 At some point you will get pulled over. 14 00:00:43,130 --> 00:00:44,910 And here is how you act. 15 00:00:44,910 --> 00:00:46,670 As a young black man 16 00:00:46,670 --> 00:00:47,850 growing up in New York 17 00:00:47,850 --> 00:00:49,660 I've had, you know, 18 00:00:49,660 --> 00:00:51,160 a few run-ins with the police 19 00:00:51,160 --> 00:00:52,600 and being completely innocent. 20 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:54,390 Some people pull us out of the car, 21 00:00:54,390 --> 00:00:56,130 throw us on the floor, it's in February, 22 00:00:56,130 --> 00:00:57,190 so it's snow 23 00:00:57,190 --> 00:00:58,750 and slush and stuff on the ground. 24 00:00:59,420 --> 00:01:00,680 Put their knees on our back, 25 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:01,830 put their guns to our head. 26 00:01:01,830 --> 00:01:03,110 As I'm putting my hands 27 00:01:03,110 --> 00:01:04,450 on the steering wheel, 28 00:01:04,450 --> 00:01:09,360 so I don't make the police nervous, 29 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,420 I realize how nervous I was. 30 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,510 and then I realize my children were nervous. 31 00:01:14,510 --> 00:01:16,690 The thing that people say is 32 00:01:16,690 --> 00:01:17,790 you have to talk to him 33 00:01:17,790 --> 00:01:20,360 before he 34 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,180 experience racism himself. 35 00:01:23,180 --> 00:01:24,360 But when is that? 36 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,420 He is going to turn into 37 00:01:26,420 --> 00:01:28,860 a large scary black man. 38 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,690 And that is not who he is 39 00:01:32,690 --> 00:01:34,570 but that's how he will be perceived. 40 00:01:34,570 --> 00:01:36,360 And I know what this kid is going to 41 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:37,210 he's going to look like him. 42 00:01:37,210 --> 00:01:40,100 You know, I know what he is going to look like. 43 00:01:40,100 --> 00:01:41,610 I'm a large scary black man? 44 00:01:41,610 --> 00:01:44,270 You are a large scary black man, okay? 45 00:01:44,270 --> 00:01:46,250 That's a problem in and of itself. 46 00:01:46,250 --> 00:01:48,400 I am not large. Nor scary. 47 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,210 I can't do anything with that. 48 00:01:50,210 --> 00:01:52,250 I'm sure, anyway, go ahead. 49 00:01:52,250 --> 00:01:54,880 It's frightening. 50 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:56,640 And I'm being very light 51 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:57,980 when I use the word frightening. 52 00:01:57,980 --> 00:01:59,660 If something goes wrong 53 00:01:59,660 --> 00:02:01,910 your first line of defense, 54 00:02:02,530 --> 00:02:03,600 you know, the parents 55 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:05,820 not being there, is to go to the police. 56 00:02:05,820 --> 00:02:07,090 If you're Caucasian. 57 00:02:07,630 --> 00:02:09,900 That's what you teach your children. 58 00:02:09,900 --> 00:02:12,090 Unfortunately it can't work for black children. 59 00:02:12,090 --> 00:02:13,470 It doesn't mean that every 60 00:02:13,470 --> 00:02:16,940 police officer is inherently a bad person. 61 00:02:16,940 --> 00:02:18,090 But what it does mean is 62 00:02:18,090 --> 00:02:21,810 that the police force, that institution, 63 00:02:21,810 --> 00:02:25,490 does not look out for your best interest. 64 00:02:25,490 --> 00:02:30,270 There's this unspoken code of racism 65 00:02:30,270 --> 00:02:31,670 and white supremacy 66 00:02:31,670 --> 00:02:35,330 that says that my life does not matter. 67 00:02:35,330 --> 00:02:36,750 You can put your hands up 68 00:02:36,750 --> 00:02:38,650 and cooperate 69 00:02:38,650 --> 00:02:40,760 and say that I'm choking and still be killed 70 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:41,970 and then there is no repercussions. 71 00:02:41,970 --> 00:02:43,910 It's maddening. I get so frustrated 72 00:02:43,910 --> 00:02:45,090 and angry 73 00:02:45,090 --> 00:02:49,830 about having to prepare my kids 74 00:02:49,830 --> 00:02:53,100 for something that 75 00:02:54,630 --> 00:02:56,210 that they're not responsible for. 76 00:02:56,210 --> 00:02:58,470 I mean these are conversations that 77 00:02:58,470 --> 00:02:59,800 people of other races do not 78 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:01,210 have to have with their children. 79 00:03:01,210 --> 00:03:02,940 The conversation with him was really just: 80 00:03:02,940 --> 00:03:04,320 "Look, 81 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,350 you are a beautiful young boy..." 82 00:03:06,350 --> 00:03:08,250 Being an African American 83 00:03:08,790 --> 00:03:09,900 is a wonderful thing, 84 00:03:09,900 --> 00:03:11,180 it's a wonderful blessing. 85 00:03:11,180 --> 00:03:13,300 You have come from great people. 86 00:03:13,890 --> 00:03:15,480 But it's also a hard thing. 87 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:16,730 In America 88 00:03:17,580 --> 00:03:19,500 because of your skin color 89 00:03:19,500 --> 00:03:20,780 as a black boy 90 00:03:20,780 --> 00:03:22,150 and as a black man 91 00:03:22,910 --> 00:03:24,260 we are going to be dealing 92 00:03:24,260 --> 00:03:25,420 with a lot of danger. 93 00:03:25,420 --> 00:03:27,800 Under no circumstance 94 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,820 are you to talk to the police 95 00:03:30,820 --> 00:03:33,670 if you're arrested until I get there. 96 00:03:33,670 --> 00:03:35,350 Do what they say. 97 00:03:35,350 --> 00:03:36,830 Don't get into any arguments. 98 00:03:36,830 --> 00:03:37,810 Make sure your hands are out 99 00:03:37,810 --> 00:03:39,640 of your pockets so they can see. 100 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,370 These are the questions you can ask. 101 00:03:41,370 --> 00:03:42,930 This is who to call. 102 00:03:42,930 --> 00:03:44,600 This is what happens 103 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,600 if this bad thing is done. 104 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,800 "Please master don't whip me" No! 105 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:50,180 It like: "Excuse me sir, 106 00:03:50,180 --> 00:03:51,310 what is your batch number? 107 00:03:51,310 --> 00:03:52,430 I'm going to film this." 108 00:03:52,430 --> 00:03:54,690 If you want police brutality to stop. 109 00:03:54,690 --> 00:03:56,470 If you want police 110 00:03:56,470 --> 00:03:58,450 to treat you like a human being 111 00:03:58,450 --> 00:04:00,950 you have to see yourself as a human being. 112 00:04:00,950 --> 00:04:02,630 You have every right in this world 113 00:04:02,630 --> 00:04:04,100 that anyone else does. 114 00:04:04,100 --> 00:04:09,260 What I love about you as my son 115 00:04:09,260 --> 00:04:12,360 is I remember 116 00:04:13,230 --> 00:04:16,200 when we thought about having you 117 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,700 and, you know, knowing that we wanted you. 118 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,089 And watching you grow. 119 00:04:21,089 --> 00:04:22,630 You are Muhammad Ali, 120 00:04:22,630 --> 00:04:23,940 you are Malcolm X, 121 00:04:23,940 --> 00:04:25,520 you are Martin Luther King. 122 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,030 You are an amazing young man 123 00:04:28,030 --> 00:04:29,750 and the future is yours. 124 00:04:29,750 --> 00:04:32,350 and I will do my best to make sure you're safe. 125 00:04:34,350 --> 00:04:37,520 That's it. I love you.