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    ♪ theme music ♪
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    (Derek) Welcome to Hope Sabbath School,
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    an in-depth, interactive study
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    of the Word of God.
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    I am excited today as we begin
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    a brand new series
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    on God's Love and Justice.
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    In fact, I feel like we are walking
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    on holy ground, and I'm glad
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    that you joined us as we talk
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    about a God who loves freely.
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    So, welcome to Hope Sabbath School
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    and welcome to the team,
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    good to see you all.
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    Thanks for being here.
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    We've got some remote team members
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    with us, too; let's take a look
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    and see who's joining us remotely today.
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    Faith, good to see you,
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    glad you're with us.
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    Tricia Lee, welcome back,
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    always good to see you.
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    And, Gleny, great
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    to have you with us today.
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    We're so glad that you're with us, too,
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    because you're part
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    of our global interactive study together.
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    And we're always happy to hear from you,
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    our Hope Sabbath School members
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    from around the world.
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    You can write to us at sshope@hopetv.org.
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    You say, "Derek, I've memorized that."
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    Well, then send us a note
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    and share with us how God is blessing you
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    through a study of His Word.
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    You say, "Derek, I'm actually teaching
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    a class; I'm downloading the outline
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    from the website, and I'm sharing
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    the Word of God; praise God.
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    Write to us and let us know.
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    Here's a note from Kyrol
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    who writes to us from Papua New Guinea,
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    and he says, "I'm truly blessed
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    every Sabbath since I started watching
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    Hope Sabbath School
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    through YouTube last year."
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    Well, I don't know.
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    It's always dangerous to say
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    how many subscribers we have.
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    It's close to [120,000],
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    but probably that will be out of date,
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    Travis, by the next time we read it.
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    But one of them is Kyrol
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    in Papua New Guinea; isn't that awesome?
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    (Team) Praise God.
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    (Derek) "I've watched every Sabbath
    morning
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    before I go to Bible study.
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    Glory, honor and praise be to God
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    for the Hope Sabbath School team."
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    And we say? Praise God, right?
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    "May God continue to bless
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    and use all of you as His witnesses
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    to share His amazing truths
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    before Christ returns."
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    What do we say?
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    (Derek, Team) Amen.
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    (Derek) Kyrol, thanks for writing to us
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    from Papua New Guinea, and we're glad
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    you are part of our global family.
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    Well, Suwilanji writes to us from Zambia
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    and says, "I am a Pentecostal preacher
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    in Zambia, and I'm addicted
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    to Hope Sabbath School."
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    (Team) Wow.
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    (Derek) Well, Suwilanji, thanks
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    for writing to us.
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    We're happy that you're sharing
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    the gospel in your country
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    and learning more about the Word of God
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    on Hope Sabbath School.
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    Thanks for your note.
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    Here's a hand-written note
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    from a donor in Maryland
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    in the United States of America.
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    For those of you who may not know,
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    we actually film Hope Sabbath School
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    in the state of Maryland.
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    And the donor writes,
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    "Hello, Hope Sabbath School."
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    You know they do that
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    so you'll wave, right?
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    "I'm so happy to be with you once again
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    to see your smiling faces,
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    to be part of your interactive study
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    that blesses my heart immensely.
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    The study is so plain
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    that even an 84-year-old
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    like me can understand.
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    The team members' testimonies
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    are such a blessing to me.
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    I thank God for the Hope
    Sabbath School team
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    spreading the gospel around the world.
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    Enclosed is a small contribution,"
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    the donor writes, but no donation is small
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    when God blesses it,
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    a donation of 50 dollars.
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    Thank you so much, Donor in Maryland.
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    You know who you are.
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    And thanks to each one of you.
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    We're a donor-supported minsitry.
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    You say, "Derek, could I have a part?"
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    Absolutely! Go to our website,
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    hopetv.org/hopess,
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    click on the yellow button
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    and give online, or you get an address
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    and write us a note
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    just like this donor did.
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    Thank you to each one
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    for being part of this miracle.
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    One last note, and I'm looking at Travis
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    over here, Travis, because Nadine
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    is writing from Guyana.
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    So, I don't know if we can all
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    give her a wave, but, Nadine, we want
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    you to know one of our team members,
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    Travis, was just in Guyana
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    holding some meetings, and so that's
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    a special place in [his] heart.
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    "Thank you," Nadine writes,
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    "for Hope Sabbath School.
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    You are such a blessing to us.
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    An interactive study of the Word of God
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    helps me to have
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    a closer relationship with Jesus."
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    (Team) Amen.
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    (Derek) That's why we do it!
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    You know, the demons know a lot
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    about the Bible, and people
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    could win a Bible quiz and be lost.
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    But when you study the Bible and have
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    a closer relationship with Jesus,
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    that's eternal salvation, isn't it?
    Awesome.
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    "May God continue to bless you all.
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    We love you all. Nadine."
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    Well, Nadine, thanks for writing to us,
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    and I'm excited that you are all part
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    of our global family.
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    We would love to hear
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    from you, so, write to us.
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    I noticed a lot of you put comments
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    on the YouTube channel when you watch,
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    and that's great, too, but you can
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    also write to us at sshope@hopetv.org.
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    Well, today we're going to learn
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    a new theme song.
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    It is 3,000 years old.
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    We sing Scripture songs here
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    on Hope Sabbath School.
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    It is Psalm 63, and it says,
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    "O God, You are my God;
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    early will I seek You,"
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    but we lost the tune somewhere
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    in the last 3,000 years,
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    so my wife put a new tune to it.
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    And you can go to our website
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    and download the song free
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    and the sheet music, if you'd like
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    to sing it in your Bible study group.
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    Just go to hopetv.org/hopess,
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    that's our web address,
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    and you can download the song,
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    sheet music, and sing it.
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    We'd like to teach it to you right now.
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    ♪ music ♪
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    (Derek) Amen? Wow, that was beautiful.
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    I hear you sing, too.
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    You say, "Derek, you couldn't hear us,"
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    but I was just imagining you singing.
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    And I just want to challenge us
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    with the thought, when the enemy
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    comes upon us like a flood,
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    we just sing that song, "O God,
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    You are my God;
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    early will I seek You," right?
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    We can run to God, a God
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    of love and mercy who will welcome us
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    with loving arms.
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    Well, great to see
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    our remotes singing, too.
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    I know we can't see you all,
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    but you're singing the Word, too,
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    and we're hiding that Word in our hearts.
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    Today, we're going to study
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    how God Loves Freely.
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    It's an amazing study, and we invite you
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    to pray with us as we
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    open the Word of God.
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    Father in Heaven, thank You
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    for the revelation in the Word of God.
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    The Scripture is given
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    by inspiration of God
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    and is profitable for us.
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    Guide us in our interactive study today
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    by your Holy Spirit.
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    We pray in Jesus' name. Amen.
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    (Team) Amen.
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    (Derek) Well, we're going to start
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    in the book of Exodus,
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    that's the second book
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    of the Hebrew Scriptures, the second book
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    of the Pentateuch as it's called.
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    In Exodus, chapter 33, and, Puia,
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    I'm going to ask you to begin our study
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    today by reading verses 12 to 19.
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    I want to invite you and those joining
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    around the world to listen
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    to what revelation we see
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    of the character of God,
    here in Exodus 33.
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    (Puia) Sure, and I'll be reading
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    from the New King James Version,
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    Exodus 33, verses 12 to 19:
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    (Derek) Wow, that is amazing dialogue
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    between the Lord and Moses.
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    What are some lessons we can learn
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    just from hearing it if we
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    just had that one Scripture?
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    What could we learn
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    about the character of God? Kylynda?
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    (Kylynda) God wants to be with us.
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    (Derek) So, He's a relational God,
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    which, by the way, we ought not to take
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    for granted because a lot of pictures
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    of God are like, "Well, He did something,
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    and then He left." Harold?
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    (Harold) Very personable, because you
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    can talk to Him as a Person.
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    (Derek) He wants a relationship,
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    and He's communicating.
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    Alright. Yes, James.
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    (James) He is a God of companionship.
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    Moses asked for a companion,
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    and God said, "I will be your Companion."
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    (Derek) "I will go
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    with you," that's right.
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    Gleny, what do you hear in this text
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    that impresses you
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    about the character of God?
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    (Gleny) Besides all that was mentioned,
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    we see that He is good,
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    He shows a lot of compassion,
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    and He desires to be known.
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    (Derek) Alright, that's a good point
    Gleny makes.
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    His goodness, don't take that
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    for granted, you know?
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    It's that God is good.
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    He wants a relationship with us. Don?
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    (Don) Also with the first text,
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    "I know you by your name."
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    (Derek) Thank you for pointing that out.
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    So, talk about companionship
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    but not just with Moses, He wants
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    a personal relationship with us.
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    Now, to put that in context,
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    Sophia, if you could go back one chapter
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    with us, take us back to Exodus 32
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    and read the first three verses.
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    Let's have a little context.
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    God is saying, "I want a relationship
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    with you; I want to show
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    My compassion and love."
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    Let's see what's just happened
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    as part of the exodus.
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    (Sophia) I'll be reading
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    from the New King James Version,
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    chapter 32, verses 1 through 3:
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    (Derek) And what did they do with that,
    anybody remember?
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    (Team) Golden calf.
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    (Derek) They made a golden calf!
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    And not only did they make a golden calf,
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    but what did they say?
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    (Sophia) "This is our god."
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    (Derek) That, "you're the god that brought
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    us out of Egypt"!
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    I mean, it's like, terrible!
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    And yet, in the context of that,
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    God shows His love.
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    Now, I want to ask Tricia Lee a question.
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    Tricia Lee, we always appreciate
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    hearing from you.
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    Tricia Lee, it says, "I will
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    have compassion on whom I
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    will have compassion,"
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    but tell me somewhere else
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    in the Scripture, how many people
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    does God have compassion on?
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    (Tricia Lee) God has compassion
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    on all people; we know that
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    from John, chapter 3, verse 16.
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    (Derek) And what does it say there?
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    Have you memorized it?
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    (Tricia Lee) It says, "For God
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    so loved the world that He gave
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    His only begotten Son, that whosoever
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    believes in Him should not perish
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    but have everlasting life."
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    (Derek) So, I just don't want a person
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    to say, "Well, I guess He has compassion
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    on the ones," and then pick
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    a few here and have compassion on them.
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    As Tricia Lee quoted (I think she's got
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    another comment to share),
    "God so loved..."?
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    (Team) "...the world."
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    (Derek) Right. You want to add to that?
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    (Tricia Lee) When I think about that verse
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    in Exodus, "I'll have compassion
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    on whom I'll have compassion,"
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    " I will be gracious
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    to whom I will be gracious," I think
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    about it in the context
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    of the immediate request that Moses
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    made to God where he said,
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    "Show me Your glory."
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    And we know that no one can see God's face
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    or His full glory and live, and so I think
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    that was just God responding and saying,
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    "Yes, I will be gracious in showing you
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    who I am, and I will be
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    compassionate enough to let you survive
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    this encounter and experience with Me."
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    I think it was just more God expressing
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    that in this request, "Show me Your face,
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    show me Your glory," that He was saying,
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    "Yes, I can answer and honor
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    that special request for you, Moses."
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    (Derek) Well, with such an amazing view -
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    and, Travis, I want to hear your point -
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    with such an amazing view
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    of the character of God loving the world,
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    why are there so many people
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    with distorted views
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    of the character of God?
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    If you want, make your comment first,
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    Travis, and then build on that question.
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    (Travis) So, when I read those verses,
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    and I read that God would be gracious
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    to whom He would be gracious,
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    I immediately thought there are people
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    in the world that we may see that we
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    would believe shouldn't be extended grace.
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    And then I remembered, anyone who calls
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    on the name of the Lord shall be saved.
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    And I think the reason that that was
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    written in there is that we may
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    in our human minds believe that a person
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    shouldn't be extended grace.
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    But God says, "I will have compassion
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    on whom I will have compassion."
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    (Derek) Wow, so people that we
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    may not think deserve...
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    That could have been us at some point
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    in our lives, right? Samantha?
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    (Samantha) To answer your question
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    about why people have...
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    (Derek) Distorted views?
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    (Samantha) Yes, I feel like it's
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    just what the devil does.
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    He tries to discredit who God is,
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    and so he puts the wrong thoughts
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    of God in peoples' minds.
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    Instead of having them believe
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    that, "Okay, yes," he has them think,
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    "Why would a loving God cause
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    your family member to die?"
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    "Why would a loving God cause
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    your wife to become sick?"
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    And so, I feel like it just all a part
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    of that Great Controversy where Satan
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    tries to discredit who God is.
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    And people who do not have
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    that full understanding of Him, it's easy
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    because if you don't have
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    that full armor, then you can easily fall
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    for anything that the devil brings to you.
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    (Derek) And unfortunately, if you
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    look, for example...
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    And I see Gleny's hand and Kylynda's, too,
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    and Harold; there are lots
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    of hands raised here.
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    Unfortunately, if you look
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    at medieval art, you know, God looks
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    like a horrible Person, and He's
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    just trying to torture people,
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    so it's not just in my imagination.
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    There have been people teaching
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    false ideas about the character of God.
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    I'm going to take the hands,
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    and we're going to move on.
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    Kylynda, Gleny and Harold.
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    (Kylynda) To go off what you said, Derek,
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    in the end of Luke 11, Jesus
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    critiques the religious leaders,
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    and He says, "You know, you're
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    overburdening people, you're making God
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    seem like a tyrant that's only concerned
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    about the smallest external effects,
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    not the internal transformation."
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    So some of our perception of God
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    can, unfortunately, be distorted
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    by different religious leaders
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    or religious mentors who portray God
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    in a way that isn't compassionate,
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    that isn't relational.
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    (Derek) False teaching.
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    Gleny and then Harold.
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    (Gleny) Yes, I just wanted to support
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    Kylynda's point, too.
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    You have your early caregivers,
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    like maybe even your parents, teachers,
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    as you had mentioned, people who are
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    set up to give a representation of God,
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    a good example of God, but somehow failed.
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    And that makes you wonder, "If the people
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    I looked up to had inflicted
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    and caused so much pain,
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    then God must be the same, too."
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    (Derek) Ahh. Harold?
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    (Harold) And I just want to add,
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    because, yes, the issue of suffering
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    and evil are some of the biggest questions
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    that everybody has, even atheists have.
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    It's like, how can a loving God reconcile
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    the suffering that is in the world?
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    But we cannot forget that our God
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    also suffered with us.
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    He is not indifferent to our suffering.
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    Now, as to why He allows suffering,
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    many times we do not know,
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    but He does give us the courage
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    because He suffered with us,
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    and He tells us, "I'll be with you.
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    I will give you the strength
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    that you'll need to go through this,"
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    and eventually we'll know the truth.
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    There is a battle behind the scenes
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    in the spiritual realm, and God
    will give us the answer.
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    (Derek) Do you know the amount -
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    and we're going to move on -
    but the amount
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    of interaction right now - and it's
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    like I said, there are 11 of us
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    on the team and 14 hands raised -
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    shows that this is really,
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    we have an expression in English,
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    like a hot-button issue.
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    People are like, "What is
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    the character of God like?"
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    We start with a clear revelation
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    that God is good, He wants
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    a personal relationship,
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    He knows us by name,
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    and He loves the whole world.
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    Now, before we come back to talk
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    about how we can show that to the world,
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    because there is a lot of distortion,
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    let's think about some stories
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    in the Bible which show God's love
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    for people who either ignore
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    or don't appreciate His love.
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    Because you said He loves
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    even the unworthy people, right?
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    Can anybody think of a story?
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    Don, can you think of a story?
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    (Don) This reminds me of the Prodigal Son.
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    The Prodigal Son when he [told] his dad,
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    or his father, "Give me my inheritance,"
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    but the problem was he
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    squandered it all, right?
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    But if we compare this to God's love,
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    God's love is steadfast.
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    His love remains toward us.
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    (Derek) But in that same story,
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    when he does come home,
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    how does the father respond?
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    (Don) He accepts him back fully.
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    (Derek) What does he do?
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    (Team Member) Throws a feast.
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    (Derek) He throws his arms around him,
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    he kisses him on the neck,
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    he throws a party for him.
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    And by the way, I don't know about you,
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    but some people say, "Oh,
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    terrible Prodigal Son," but the son
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    that stayed home wasn't very nice,
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    and yet the father loved him, too, right?
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    Anybody else, think of a story,
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    Tricia Lee, a story where it's obvious
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    that God is showing love
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    even to the people that may
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    ignore His love or not welcome His love.
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    (Tricia Lee) I think
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    about an Old Testament story,
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    the story of the people of Nineveh
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    of this Assyrian Empire.
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    They were known for being very violent
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    and cruel, not just to others they
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    were conquering but also to themselves.
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    And God sent a prophet to warn them
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    to correct their ways,
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    and he traveled over a whole sea,
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    took a ship to reach them,
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    But He loved them enough to send them
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    a warning message and give them
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    an opportunity to change their ways,
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    which they did take advantage of.
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    And I thought that was an act of love.
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    He didn't just leave them
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    to just destroy themselves,
    or destroy them
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    without a warning, but He gave them
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    an opportunity to really realize,
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    "You can do better; you can live better."
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    (Derek) So, He shows love to them
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    even though the prophet Jonah
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    complained about it, like, "God,
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    You're really too loving."
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    It would be easy to talk
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    about the Ninevites who were very violent,
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    like Tricia Lee mentioned,
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    but actually His own people,
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    the children of Israel,
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    were very wayward, too.
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    I want someone to summarize the mission
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    of the prophet Hosea,
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    what God asked him to do,
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    and what was God trying to teach
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    about the extent of His love?
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    Anybody want to try a summary? Kylynda.
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    (Kylynda) Hosea was a prophet
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    for the children of Israel in a time
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    when they were often backsliding from God.
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    So God [told] the prophet, "I want you
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    to marry a woman that you know
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    will be unfaithful to you."
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    (Derek) Ouch!
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    (Kylynda) Right? Quite harsh, but Hosea
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    follows God's command.
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    He marries Gomer,
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    and what happens, happens.
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    She has multiple children;
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    they're not Hosea's.
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    Hosea gives them names that indicate
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    this kind of separation
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    between God and His people,
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    like a child named "Not My People."
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    And eventually, even though it's
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    not quite clear in the Bible, Gomer
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    falls into slavery; it's implicated
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    that this [is of] a sexual nature.
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    And God says, "Go back to her, be faithful
    to her even though she's
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    not faithful to you."
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    (Derek) Doesn't he have
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    to actually purchase her back?
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    (Kylynda) He redeems her from slavery
    with money.
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    (Derek) Is that a picture
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    of the love of God?
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    I hope you're listening today,
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    that God loves us
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    with an immeasurable and unfailing love.
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    But just telling that story,
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    putting ourselves as a spouse,
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    whether a husband or a wife,
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    with an unfaithful spouse,
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    it would be easy for us to say what?
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    "I'm done. I'm done," right?
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    (Don) Ready to separate.
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    (Derek) Right, but God continues,
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    and you're saying, even when she's
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    in some kind of enslaved situation.
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    (Kylynda) Yes, Hosea goes back.
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    He redeems her; he purchases her debt,
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    and he loves her, and he says,
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    "What's past is past.
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    Now we'll be faithful to each other.
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    You'll be faithful."
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    (Derek) So, I'm going to ask James
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    to take us to that little book of Hosea,
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    to chapter 14, because there is
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    a beautiful revelation, again,
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    as Sophia read with the Exodus revelation,
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    they had just been dancing naked
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    around a golden calf and calling it
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    the god that delivered them.
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    And here, waywardness typified
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    by Gomer's behavior, let's see
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    how the Lord speaks in chapter 14
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    of Hosea, verses 1 to 4.
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    (James) Sure, and I'll be reading
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    from the New King James Version:
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    (Derek) What do you think
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    about that immeasurable, unfailing love
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    of God even with such waywardness?
    Sophia?
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    (Sophia) He's such a forgiving Person.
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    (Derek) Yeah, forgiving.
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    (Sophia) Even when He was so angry,
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    you know, cast them away from Himself.
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    (Derek) Is it okay to be angry
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    when things like that happen?
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    Doesn't Scripture say, "Be angry and..."?
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    (Harold) Do not sin.
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    (Derek) "Don't sin," right?
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    So, there's every reason to be angry.
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    Actually, not so much angry at the person,
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    but angry at what sin is doing
  • 27:33 - 27:36
    to damage someone that you love, right?
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    "I will heal their backsliding.
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    I will love them freely." Yes, Puia.
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    (Puia) A verse like this, Derek,
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    gives me hope that there is forgiveness
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    and a new start for everyone.
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    There may be someone here
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    listening or among us...
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    You know, oftentimes we fall,
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    and we make mistakes, and the guilt
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    and shame that comes along with it
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    is too much to bear for us.
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    But here we see God letting us know
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    that, "I will heal you.
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    You can have a new start,
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    a new beginning," what a hope.
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    (Derek) I'm going to ask Faith a question.
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    Faith, did you grow up...
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    I don't know the answer, by the way,
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    so there's no right or wrong answer,
  • 28:20 - 28:23
    but did you grow up with that perspective
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    of the love of God, that even when we
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    make terrible choices like Gomer made,
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    right, like the children of Israel made
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    at various times, that God was
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    relentless in His pursuit
  • 28:37 - 28:38
    of them to love them?
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    Did you grow up with that kind of picture
  • 28:40 - 28:41
    of the love of God?
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    (Faith) Yes, I think that picture
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    was also shown in my parents.
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    Obviously they disciplined, but they
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    taught us, and they continued to pursue us
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    to steer us in the right direction
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    and guide us and say, "Oh, this is
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    the right thing to do,"
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    and never give up on us.
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    And I think as I got older,
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    and now I'm in college, I have
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    a big community, and I also continue
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    to read the Bible daily, which allows me
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    to see that God won't give up.
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    And it's like Puia was saying,
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    you have that shame and guilt,
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    but you've got to make sure you
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    go directly to God,
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    and you don't sit in that.
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    So, yeah, I did grow up
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    with that picture of God.
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    (Derek) Thank you so much
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    for sharing that, Faith.
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    This leads me to a question,
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    an interaction question for us,
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    because Faith said she saw that
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    revealed in her parents, right?
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    So, the question I wanted to ask,
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    and I think this is a good time:
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    With so many distortions
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    of the character of God -
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    and we see God here,
  • 29:48 - 29:51
    loving freely, relentlessly -
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    how can we help, Harold,
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    how can we help people
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    to see a clearer revelation
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    of the character of God?
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    (Harold) Well, in my case, I believe
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    that you need to meet them
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    where they're at, reflect God's character.
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    If they need a companion, be there.
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    If they need help, provide the help
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    that they need, because at the end
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    of the day, we are ambassadors of Christ.
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    We are to represent Him.
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    And even Paul says, "The only reason
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    why the Gentiles blaspheme the name of God
  • 30:19 - 30:22
    is because of you, of your example,
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    because you do things, you're hypocrites."
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    We're all hypocrites; I've been there.
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    (Derek) ...a personal question, Harold,
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    because I know you didn't grow up
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    in a very strong Christian family.
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    So, who helped you - because some people
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    have heard a little of your testimony,
  • 30:38 - 30:40
    it's quite amazing - but who helped you
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    to see that revelation of a God
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    who loves freely?
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    (Harold) Well, it took, after I was
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    introduced to God, maybe 15 years later.
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    It was a friend of mine
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    in Rochester, New York.
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    I never heard that representation of God
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    the way she presented it to me.
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    I mean, she was not perfect, you know,
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    she had her flaws, yet all these years
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    I thought God was very demanding,
  • 31:06 - 31:08
    very vindictive, and I was
  • 31:08 - 31:09
    always afraid of Him.
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    But when she said,
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    "God is very compassionate.
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    You can talk to Him as a friend,"...
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    I always had to talk to Him,
  • 31:15 - 31:18
    like, with this reverence of like,
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    "Oh, yes, Sir," "No, Sir," but I talk
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    to Him as a friend.
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    And I believe that He can forgive.
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    I did not believe He forgave, before.
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    Even though I've heard
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    the message of forgiveness,
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    I did not believe he actually forgave
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    because I was too full of sin.
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    I thought I had to be perfect
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    before I would present myself...
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    (Derek) Accepted by Him.
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    Gleny, I see your hand; how would you
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    like to add to the discussion?
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    (Gleny) As a therapist, I had been working
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    with a client at a residential
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    depression/anxiety recovery program,
  • 31:49 - 31:52
    and he was so blown away,
  • 31:52 - 31:53
    but also simultaneously confused
  • 31:53 - 31:55
    with the compassion and love
  • 31:55 - 31:57
    he was experiencing around him.
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    I remember he mentioned that he
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    doesn't want to be like the people.
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    He knew who would get so rigid
  • 32:03 - 32:05
    and dictatorial when they would read
  • 32:05 - 32:07
    the Word and understand God, and he said,
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    "I just don't want to be like that."
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    And I asked him, like, there are many
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    of us who understand and read
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    the Word of God; do you
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    think that we are the same?
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    And he said, "Oh, wait, that's right.
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    You guys are some of the first people
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    I've met who had a different response,
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    actually a very positive response
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    after intentionally learning about God."
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    So, by their fruits, you shall know them.
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    And he was drawn to God by the way
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    we were working with him.
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    (Derek) So, we're hearing a theme.
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    Thank you so much, Gleny.
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    We're hearing a theme that, with all
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    of the confusion
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    about the character of God
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    that followers of God, you said,
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    could actually be part of the problem.
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    We could even have false teachers
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    who are religious teachers, right,
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    who give a confused picture of God.
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    Or we can be a living example
    of that. Travis.
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    (Travis) Derek, one of the things
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    that I've learned about being
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    a powerful witness for Jesus
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    is in Acts, chapter 1, verse 8,
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    It says, "You will receive power
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    to be my witnesses."
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    And we're not that smart,
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    and God will give us the power
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    to be appropriate witnesses of the gospel.
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    (Derek) So there is a revelation.
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    I see Sophia, and then, Tricia Lee,
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    I see your hand.
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    (Sophia) Just the distortion
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    of the character reminded me
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    of the Puritans in 1600s America.
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    They came to America to escape
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    religious persecution,
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    and right after they made their colony,
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    they began to persecute
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    everyone around them
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    because of their strict
    religious standards.
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    (Derek) To be fair, we might say
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    some of them began to persecute
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    those around them because there were
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    probably some who really did reveal
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    the love of God, right?
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    But it's easy for us to fall into that,
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    that we don't reflect
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    the immeasurable, unfailing love
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    of God. Tricia Lee?
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    (Tricia Lee) There's a Scripture
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    I'd like to share in Jeremiah,
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    chapter 32, verses 38 through 40.
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    (Derek) What translation are
    you reading from,?
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    (Tricia Lee) I'm reading
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    from the New King James Version,
    and it reads:
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    And "fear" being that loving respect.
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    I love this Scripture because it
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    reminds me of this idea of a covenant,
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    and that that is what God's love is.
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    And repeatedly in this passage He says,
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    "I will, I will, I will."
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    So often in our human experience,
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    love is like a transaction,
  • 35:10 - 35:12
    "I'll do this if you do that."
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    "If you do this,
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    then I'll always do this."
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    But God's everlasting love
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    is a covenant to us,
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    that, no matter what we do,
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    He will never stop loving us,
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    and that He has committed
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    to what He will do.
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    And so, there are times where there are
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    conditional promises and things like that,
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    but His love is everlasting, and it's
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    always a promise
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    of "I will, I will, I will."
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    And I think that's very different
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    than how we treat each other.
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    You know, you don't hear someone
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    in a marriage ceremony saying,
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    "I will do these things
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    only if you do that."
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    You always state your vows
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    as what you're committing
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    to that person, and in a way,
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    this everlasting covenant is
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    how God has committed
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    His unfailing, immeasurable love to us.
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    (Derek) Thank you
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    so much for sharing that.
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    There was a word that Tricia Lee
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    was repeating over and over again
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    that leads us into the next part
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    of our study, and that is
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    the everlasting love of God.
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    And I'd like someone to read
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    John 17 and verse 24.
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    John 17, Faith, do you have that?
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    John 17 and verse 24?
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    Let's see what testimony Jesus gave
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    regarding the everlasting love of God.
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    (Faith) And I'll be reading
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    from the New King James Version,
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    John 17, verse 24:
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    (Derek) Alright, so there's a revelation.
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    You say, "Oh, no, that's
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    just that the Father loved His Son
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    before the foundation of the world."
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    What evidence do you find, anybody,
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    in the Scriptures that God's love for us
  • 37:08 - 37:11
    is also everlasting?
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    It's not bound by time, you know,
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    kind of like a time clock,
  • 37:15 - 37:18
    "You've got three years left," right,
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    or three mistakes left, or something,
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    but that it's everlasting.
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    Jesus said, "The Father has loved Me
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    since before the foundation of the world."
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    Anybody think of a Bible text?
    Yes, Samantha.
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    (Samantha) Well, I thought
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    of Romans 8, verses 38 and 39.
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    (Derek) Okay, give us
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    a moment to find that.
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    Romans, chapter 8?
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    (Samantha) Verses 38 and 39.
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    (Derek) And the letter
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    to the Romans was written by?
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    Anybody? The Apostle Paul, that's right.
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    So, these are to Christians
  • 37:51 - 37:53
    living in Rome, and you're reading
  • 37:53 - 37:55
    verses 38 and 39.
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    (Samantha) Yes, from the New
    King James Version.
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    (Derek) How does...?
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    (Samantha) It says:
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    (Derek) Somebody excited about that?
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    That's pretty amazing, isn't it?
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    Nothing can separate us. Puia.
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    (Puia) So, back to John 17:24
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    that we read earlier, what I see here
  • 38:35 - 38:38
    is that before creating the world,
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    God had already enjoyed
  • 38:41 - 38:43
    being in a relationship of love.
  • 38:43 - 38:44
    So, in a sense, God
  • 38:44 - 38:46
    didn't need to create us.
  • 38:46 - 38:51
    He didn't owe us this existence, nor love.
  • 38:51 - 38:55
    So this idea of God loving us freely,
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    voluntarily, is all an act of sacrifice
  • 38:59 - 39:04
    in a way, and we don't deserve
  • 39:04 - 39:07
    this level of love from God.
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    (Derek) But it's who God is, right?
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    Isn't there a text that says, "God is..."?
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    (Derek, Team) "...love."
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    (Derek) He doesn't just love,
  • 39:18 - 39:21
    He does love, but He loves because it's...
  • 39:21 - 39:22
    (Puia) His nature.
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    (Derek) The very essence
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    of who He is. Harold?
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    (Harold) I was going to read...
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    (Derek) Yes...
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    (Harold) It's in Lamentations, chapter 3.
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    (Derek) Lamentations doesn't sound
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    like a very happy book, does it?
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    But the prophet Jeremiah has
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    a beautiful promise there.
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    Lamentations, chapter 3 and verses?
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    (Harold) 22 to 24.
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    (Derek) 22 to 24, my wife
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    likes to sing this, so how does that read?
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    What translation are you...?
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    (Harold) I'll be reading
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    from the English Standard Version,
    and it reads:
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    (Derek) Beautiful, that's one
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    of my favorite verses, by the way.
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    And by the way, the context of that
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    is not that everything is going perfectly.
  • 40:21 - 40:22
    What's just happened?
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    (Harold) The Israelites were
    under captivity.
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    (Derek) They had just been taken
    into captivity.
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    (Harold) To Babylon.
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    (Derek) That's right, Daniel, Ezekiel,
  • 40:30 - 40:31
    and all those prophets are there.
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    Jeremiah is left in Jerusalem.
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    It's been ransacked, and he's lamenting.
  • 40:39 - 40:41
    But he says, "Through the Lord's mercies,"
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    I'm quoting the New King James,
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    "we are not consumed,
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    because His compassions fail not."
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    Thank you for sharing
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    that text, beautiful. Yes, Don.
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    (Don) Another unfailing love from God,
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    if you'll allow me to read Isaiah 54?
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    (Derek) Give us a chance to find it.
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    (Don) I'm reading
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    from the New King James.
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    (Derek) Hold on just a minute then,
  • 41:02 - 41:05
    "Eye-ZAY-ah" or "Eye-ZY-uh," chapter 54.
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    (Don) Verse 10.
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    (Derek) And verse 10,
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    and what translation?
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    (Don) New King James.
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    (Derek) New King James,
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    "Eye-ZAY-ah" or "Eye-ZY-uh," 54:10.
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    (Don) And it says:
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    (Derek) We could find many texts,
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    I'm sure, in the Scripture that speak
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    about the everlasting love of God,
  • 41:41 - 41:44
    but one of the reasons
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    that people struggle is because they've
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    been in a relationship
  • 41:48 - 41:51
    where love has failed.
  • 41:51 - 41:52
    And they go, "Well, maybe God's
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    just like that, too."
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    "I thought it was
  • 41:55 - 41:59
    a loving, safe environment."
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    It may be a family member left,
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    like a parent or a spouse
  • 42:03 - 42:05
    or a close relationship,
  • 42:05 - 42:08
    and it's like it's hard for us
  • 42:08 - 42:10
    not to think, "Well, maybe God
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    is that way, too."
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    Anybody have an experience like that,
  • 42:15 - 42:22
    yeah, challenged that, but somehow God
  • 42:22 - 42:23
    made a clear picture that He
  • 42:23 - 42:27
    would not abandon you that way?
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    I don't know if anyone can relate to that.
  • 42:30 - 42:34
    I see a couple of reticent hands going up.
  • 42:34 - 42:35
    That's a tough question, isn't it,
  • 42:35 - 42:37
    but could you see how that could...
  • 42:37 - 42:40
    You know, daddy leaves, and it's like,
  • 42:40 - 42:42
    "Well, maybe my heavenly Father
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    is like that, too; maybe some day
  • 42:44 - 42:47
    He will just stop being there," right?
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    It's very real, isn't it? Harold?
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    (Harold) Well, my father, it got
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    to a point that I stopped
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    calling him father.
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    He was a very angry person.
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    He was a womanizer.
  • 42:59 - 43:00
    We would go to the park,
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    and he will tell me, "This will be
  • 43:01 - 43:05
    your new mom," and I'm like, "Excuse me?"
  • 43:05 - 43:13
    And I barely saw him, so...
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    (Derek) It's hard.
  • 43:15 - 43:18
    (Harold) It did hurt because I
  • 43:18 - 43:22
    always wanted a father, and I want
  • 43:22 - 43:27
    to be there for my daughter, too.
  • 43:27 - 43:30
    Not to mention the family was not good
  • 43:30 - 43:34
    because my mom also had her problems
  • 43:34 - 43:38
    growing up, so I did feel alone,
  • 43:38 - 43:42
    so, oh, I'm sorry.
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    (James) It's alright, it's alright.
    Tell your story.
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    (Harold) I did feel alone.
  • 43:49 - 43:53
    I didn't have the family that I wanted
  • 43:53 - 43:56
    because I didn't have birthdays...
  • 43:56 - 44:00
    Like, I got very indifferent about things
  • 44:00 - 44:04
    that people do as a family.
  • 44:04 - 44:06
    So, I just tried to protect myself
  • 44:06 - 44:08
    by trying to be indifferent
  • 44:08 - 44:12
    to these things so I could move on in life
  • 44:12 - 44:14
    because it's like, you know what, I cannot
  • 44:14 - 44:17
    allow these things to control me
  • 44:17 - 44:19
    or to dictate how I should live.
  • 44:19 - 44:21
    I need to do something.
  • 44:21 - 44:24
    So I do thank God that He did put people
  • 44:24 - 44:27
    along the way that started painting
  • 44:27 - 44:30
    this picture of God and trying to show me
  • 44:30 - 44:32
    who God really is.
  • 44:32 - 44:33
    And thankfully my mom,
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    even with her problems, she did
  • 44:35 - 44:36
    introduce me to the Bible
  • 44:36 - 44:38
    at a very young age.
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    So, I started reading and trying
  • 44:40 - 44:43
    to understand God from that angle.
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    So, then eventually, of course, I said,
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    like my friend from Rochester,
  • 44:49 - 44:51
    she eventually painted this bigger picture
  • 44:51 - 44:53
    of God to help me, like, "Oh, wow,
  • 44:53 - 44:55
    this is who God truly is;
  • 44:55 - 44:57
    I can call You my Father
  • 44:57 - 44:59
    because I always wanted a father,
  • 44:59 - 45:01
    but You are my Father that has been..."
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    Even though I did suffer, it was painful.
  • 45:03 - 45:06
    I did go through experiences that you
  • 45:06 - 45:07
    would think like, "Why would You
  • 45:07 - 45:08
    allow that, God?"
  • 45:08 - 45:11
    I mean it was done to me personally.
  • 45:11 - 45:12
    I mean, I cannot share
  • 45:12 - 45:16
    because of probably younger children,
  • 45:16 - 45:19
    but it's like, sure, I did
  • 45:19 - 45:21
    go through this experience, but I
  • 45:21 - 45:22
    cannot blame God because I am
  • 45:22 - 45:23
    in a broken world.
  • 45:23 - 45:25
    There are so many distortions
  • 45:25 - 45:28
    of God in the world, but yet we are
  • 45:28 - 45:30
    accountable for these things.
  • 45:30 - 45:32
    We are accountable, and we need
  • 45:32 - 45:33
    to take responsibility.
  • 45:33 - 45:36
    I cannot always put the blame on God.
  • 45:36 - 45:38
    But at the end of the day, I do praise God
  • 45:38 - 45:44
    that I was able to find a loving wife,
  • 45:44 - 45:47
    my family, and I don't want
  • 45:47 - 45:51
    to live like that; I really hated it.
  • 45:51 - 45:54
    I just want to be there for Sophia.
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    I want to give her a good representation
  • 45:57 - 46:00
    of who God really is.
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    (Derek) That's beautiful, Harold.
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    For those of you who don't know,
  • 46:05 - 46:07
    Brittany, who is one of our team members
  • 46:07 - 46:09
    and actually will be teaching one
  • 46:09 - 46:11
    in this series, but Brittany and Harold
  • 46:11 - 46:13
    just had a beautiful little girl.
  • 46:13 - 46:15
    And the name Sophia was mentioned,
  • 46:15 - 46:18
    so I can repeat it publicly.
  • 46:18 - 46:22
    And I'm really blessed
  • 46:22 - 46:25
    by what Harold just shared, and that is,
  • 46:25 - 46:28
    "I want my little girl to see
  • 46:28 - 46:30
    a true representation of the character
  • 46:30 - 46:33
    of our loving heavenly Father," right?
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    (Harold) Amen.
  • 46:33 - 46:35
    (Derek) And whether we're a parent
  • 46:35 - 46:39
    or a friend, right, or a child
  • 46:39 - 46:42
    to a parent, we want to be
  • 46:42 - 46:43
    a living representation
  • 46:43 - 46:45
    of what the loving character
  • 46:45 - 46:48
    of God looks like.
  • 46:48 - 46:50
    Whew, that's pretty intense,
  • 46:50 - 46:53
    but I need to move us on
  • 46:53 - 46:55
    to the last section,
  • 46:55 - 46:59
    because let's start again:
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    How many people does God love?
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    (Team) Everybody.
  • 47:02 - 47:04
    (Derek) He loves everyone,
  • 47:04 - 47:07
    but somehow we have a choice to make
  • 47:07 - 47:09
    whether we will accept
  • 47:09 - 47:10
    that intimate relationship
  • 47:10 - 47:14
    that we studied about.
  • 47:14 - 47:16
    Let's go to a story that Jesus told
  • 47:16 - 47:22
    in Matthew 24, verses 1 to 14,
  • 47:22 - 47:26
    Matthew 22, excuse me, verses 1 to 14,
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    and let's look; Kylynda, maybe you
  • 47:29 - 47:31
    could read it for us.
  • 47:31 - 47:33
    You say, "What has this got to do
  • 47:33 - 47:34
    with the love of God?"
  • 47:34 - 47:38
    Well, let's listen, because apparently,
  • 47:38 - 47:40
    lots of people are invited to a banquet.
  • 47:40 - 47:42
    So, how does this story
  • 47:42 - 47:43
    read in your Bible?
  • 47:43 - 47:44
    (Kylynda) I will be reading
  • 47:44 - 47:46
    from the New Living Translation:
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    (Derek) Wow, that's a pretty intense
    story.
  • 49:26 - 49:29
    Why would the king, if he said,
  • 49:29 - 49:31
    "Go find any," both good and?
  • 49:31 - 49:33
    (Team) Bad.
  • 49:33 - 49:35
    (Derek) So that would include us, right?
    Praise God.
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    Don't tell me which one you are,
  • 49:37 - 49:38
    but we're all saved
  • 49:38 - 49:39
    by the grace of God, right?
  • 49:39 - 49:41
    We're saved by the grace of God.
  • 49:41 - 49:43
    Why would the king be upset
  • 49:43 - 49:45
    if one person didn't have
  • 49:45 - 49:47
    a wedding garment on?
  • 49:47 - 49:50
    The only logical conclusion is?
  • 49:50 - 49:51
    (Sophia) He needed one.
  • 49:51 - 49:53
    (Derek) Well, he obviously needed one.
  • 49:53 - 49:58
    (Don) He needed to be really genuine
    or to fully accept the invitation.
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    (Derek) Who provided the wedding garment?
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    (Travis) He was unwilling to put it on.
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    (Derek) He was unwilling
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    to put on a wedding garment
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    that was provided!
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    If he had said, "Well, I didn't have one.
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    Nobody gave it; I stood
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    in the wrong line."
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    He's speechless because he's
    without excuse.
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    He's without excuse.
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    The wedding garment, that righteousness
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    which covers us, is a gift of God's grace.
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    To show up thinking we're okay without it
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    is a fatal mistake, right?
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    So, what does this last verse mean
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    in the story that Kylynda read?
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    "Many are called, but few are chosen"?
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    How many is the many who are called? Puia?
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    (Puia) All.
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    (Derek) It's everybody; how do you know?
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    (Harold) Good and bad were...
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    (Derek) Good and bad, everybody.
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    Everybody is called.
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    So, what does it mean?
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    "Many are called, but..."?
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    What does it mean, "Few are chosen"?
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    (Samantha) Only those who accept
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    that invitation and decide
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    to receive God's grace will be able
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    to enter into the Kingdom,
    will be chosen to enter.
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    (Derek) ...sounds like poor English,
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    but those who choose to be chosen, right?
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    Who wants to be chosen? Right?
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    Everyone is given the invitation.
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    The garment is provided.
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    Some people don't even want
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    to come, right?
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    In fact, most of the people
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    don't want to come.
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    But then some show up
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    without putting on the garment.
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    We have a choice to make. Travis?
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    (Travis) Interestingly, Jesus
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    starts out the beatitudes
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    in Matthew, chapter 5, verse 3,
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    [by saying], "Blessed are
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    the poor in spirit," those who realize
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    their brokenness, "for theirs is
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    the Kingdom of Heaven."
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    (Derek) Praise God.
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    So, I'm going to have you do
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    a little computer scan.
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    I want our remotes to be engaged here,
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    I'm going to ask you to be involved
    in that.
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    Can you think of someone
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    who received an unexpected invitation
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    to be part of the banquet -
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    which means to be part
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    of God's eternal kingdom, and experience
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    His immeasurable, unfailing love forever -
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    someone who received
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    an unexpected invitation and accepted it?!
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    Someone share a story with me,
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    unexpected invitation
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    and accepted it. Yes, Puia.
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    (Puia) It reminds me of Zacchaeus.
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    (Derek) Okay, Zacchaeus,
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    you don't need to read the story,
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    but tell us; Zacchaeus was a...?
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    (Puia) Tax collector.
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    (Derek) Very wealthy.
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    (Puia) And he probably didn't expect Jesus
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    to even know his name or invite him,
  • 52:43 - 52:45
    or, you know, dine with him.
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    That story just came into my mind.
  • 52:48 - 52:51
    (Derek) So, Luke 19, great story,
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    "I'm going to eat at your house today,
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    but more than that, salvation comes
  • 52:55 - 52:58
    to this house today," right,
    amazing story.
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    Someone else, an unexpected invitation.
  • 53:01 - 53:05
    I see Tricia Lee's hand raised.
    Tricia Lee?
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    (Tricia Lee) Yes, I think
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    about the thief on the cross.
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    He is guilty, and he is in the midst
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    of being punished for his crime or crimes,
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    and God extends salvation to him.
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    He has no chance to come down and live
  • 53:19 - 53:22
    a reformed life or do good things.
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    It is simply the faith, grace, and mercy
  • 53:24 - 53:27
    of God because we believe and know
  • 53:27 - 53:31
    that He is saved still hanging
    on that cross.
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    (Derek) Beautiful. Wow, that's
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    an amazing one.
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    I see Gleny's hand raised, too.
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    Gleny, somebody else that received
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    an unexpected invitation to be part
  • 53:41 - 53:44
    of this banquet which symbolizes
  • 53:44 - 53:46
    the Kingdom and said, "Yes!"
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    (Gleny) There's Matthew, who was
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    a very bad candidate for being a disciple
  • 53:52 - 53:54
    of Christ's because he was hated
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    as a tax collector, but he accepted
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    the invitation to follow Christ.
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    (Derek) Yeah, I hope that Matthew
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    and Zacchaeus got to be good friends,
  • 54:01 - 54:03
    you know, both tax collectors. Sophia.
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    (Sophia) Paul.
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    (Derek) Saul of Tarsus, what was he doing
  • 54:07 - 54:09
    before he accepted the invitation?
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    (Sophia) Persecuting Christians,
    killing them.
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    (Derek) Persecuting Christians!
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    Killing people, forcing them to blaspheme
  • 54:16 - 54:18
    the name of Jesus!
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    And he gets an invitation.
  • 54:19 - 54:22
    Where was he when he got the invitation?
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    On the Damascus road, and when he
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    got to Damascus, he gets the invitation,
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    and he says, "Yes."
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    Now, tragically, I wish we
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    could just end there,
  • 54:31 - 54:32
    but remember there's a choice.
  • 54:32 - 54:34
    So, someone, you're watching,
  • 54:34 - 54:35
    and you're going, "But you're saying
  • 54:35 - 54:36
    people could say no.
  • 54:36 - 54:38
    Maybe everybody will be saved."
  • 54:38 - 54:40
    Can you think of someone who received
  • 54:40 - 54:43
    a surprise invitation and said no?
  • 54:43 - 54:45
    (Samantha) The rich young ruler.
  • 54:45 - 54:47
    (Derek) Alright, Samantha mentioned
  • 54:47 - 54:49
    the rich young ruler who Jesus says,
  • 54:49 - 54:52
    "Get rid of the stuff
  • 54:52 - 54:55
    that's getting in the way and follow Me,"
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    and he walked away.
  • 54:57 - 54:59
    Anybody else? Yes, Harold.
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    (Harold) Judas Iscariot, unfortunately.
  • 55:02 - 55:03
    (Derek) After being one
  • 55:03 - 55:05
    of the close team members of Jesus,
  • 55:05 - 55:12
    Judas Iscariot rejected the invitation.
  • 55:12 - 55:13
    And, of course,
  • 55:13 - 55:17
    there's a shocking realization
  • 55:17 - 55:18
    that when we walk away
  • 55:18 - 55:21
    from the love of God,
  • 55:21 - 55:26
    there is no hope, there really isn't.
  • 55:26 - 55:30
    And tragically, he hangs himself.
  • 55:30 - 55:31
    But the love of God gives us
  • 55:31 - 55:34
    a reason to live.
  • 55:34 - 55:36
    What's the most important lesson
  • 55:36 - 55:38
    you've learned in our study today?
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    We've got a few seconds to wrap up.
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    Most important lesson, anybody. Puia.
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    (Puia) God is faithful even when we
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    are not faithful.
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    (Derek) But we can then choose...
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    (Puia) To be faithful.
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    (Derek) ...and to receive His love.
    Yes, Samantha.
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    (Samantha) God's love knows no bounds.
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    (Derek) It knows no bounds.
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    What's its only limit?
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    (James) Us.
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    (Derek) Us, that's right, James.
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    I want to appeal to you.
  • 56:02 - 56:03
    We're starting a series
  • 56:03 - 56:05
    on God's Love and Justice.
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    I want to testify by the Word of God
  • 56:08 - 56:10
    that Jesus loves you.
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    He came to reveal the Father's love
  • 56:12 - 56:14
    who has loved you
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    since the foundation of the world.
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    And He wants you to experience
  • 56:18 - 56:20
    an intimate relationship with Him,
  • 56:20 - 56:22
    to spend forever with Him.
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    You say, "Derek, you don't know
  • 56:24 - 56:25
    the things I've done."
  • 56:25 - 56:27
    It doesn't matter what you've done;
  • 56:27 - 56:28
    He can cleanse you, forgive you
  • 56:28 - 56:30
    of your sin, and give you
  • 56:30 - 56:31
    the gift of eternal life.
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    I want to appeal to you
  • 56:32 - 56:34
    to accept His love today.
  • 56:34 - 56:36
    You say, "Derek, I did that long ago."
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    Then, would you tell someone around you?
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    Would you tell someone who needs to know
  • 56:40 - 56:43
    really what God is like?
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    Let's pray together.
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    Father in Heaven,
  • 56:45 - 56:48
    we're just starting this journey,
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    studying about Your love and justice.
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    And I pray that Your Holy Spirit
  • 56:52 - 56:54
    would give supernatural revelation,
  • 56:54 - 56:57
    even as a result of this study,
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    of Your beautiful character of love,
  • 57:00 - 57:02
    that You will never stop loving us.
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    May we open our hearts to receive
  • 57:04 - 57:05
    Your love, even today.
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    In Jesus' name. Amen.
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    (Team) Amen.
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    (Derek) Thanks for joining us
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    for Hope Sabbath School.
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    This is going to be an amazing journey.
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    You say, "Derek, it's going to change
  • 57:15 - 57:17
    my picture of God." Praise God!
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    See God for the awesome loving God
  • 57:20 - 57:21
    that He really is.
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    And, friend, don't keep
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    that good news to yourself.
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    Go out and be a blessing
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    to those around you.
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    ♪ theme music ♪
Title:
HSS2501001
Video Language:
English
Team:
Team Adventist
Project:
Hope Channel
Duration:
57:53
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