WEBVTT 00:00:00.006 --> 00:00:18.885 ♪ theme music ♪ 00:00:18.885 --> 00:00:20.767 (Derek) Welcome to Hope Sabbath School, 00:00:20.767 --> 00:00:22.619 an in-depth, interactive study 00:00:22.619 --> 00:00:23.770 of the Word of God. 00:00:23.770 --> 00:00:25.692 I am excited today as we begin 00:00:25.692 --> 00:00:27.277 a brand new series 00:00:27.277 --> 00:00:30.146 on God's Love and Justice. 00:00:30.146 --> 00:00:33.148 In fact, I feel like we are walking 00:00:33.148 --> 00:00:35.017 on holy ground, and I'm glad 00:00:35.017 --> 00:00:37.219 that you joined us as we talk 00:00:37.219 --> 00:00:39.893 about a God who loves freely. 00:00:39.893 --> 00:00:42.149 So, welcome to Hope Sabbath School 00:00:42.149 --> 00:00:43.372 and welcome to the team, 00:00:43.372 --> 00:00:44.400 good to see you all. 00:00:44.400 --> 00:00:45.858 Thanks for being here. 00:00:45.858 --> 00:00:47.620 We've got some remote team members 00:00:47.620 --> 00:00:49.354 with us, too; let's take a look 00:00:49.354 --> 00:00:52.854 and see who's joining us remotely today. 00:00:52.854 --> 00:00:54.114 Faith, good to see you, 00:00:54.114 --> 00:00:56.553 glad you're with us. 00:00:56.553 --> 00:00:58.232 Tricia Lee, welcome back, 00:00:58.232 --> 00:00:59.996 always good to see you. 00:00:59.996 --> 00:01:01.068 And, Gleny, great 00:01:01.068 --> 00:01:02.647 to have you with us today. 00:01:02.647 --> 00:01:05.510 We're so glad that you're with us, too, 00:01:05.510 --> 00:01:06.527 because you're part 00:01:06.527 --> 00:01:09.947 of our global interactive study together. 00:01:09.947 --> 00:01:12.392 And we're always happy to hear from you, 00:01:12.392 --> 00:01:13.873 our Hope Sabbath School members 00:01:13.873 --> 00:01:14.935 from around the world. 00:01:14.935 --> 00:01:19.045 You can write to us at sshope@hopetv.org. 00:01:19.045 --> 00:01:20.934 You say, "Derek, I've memorized that." 00:01:20.934 --> 00:01:22.477 Well, then send us a note 00:01:22.477 --> 00:01:25.130 and share with us how God is blessing you 00:01:25.130 --> 00:01:26.467 through a study of His Word. 00:01:26.467 --> 00:01:28.275 You say, "Derek, I'm actually teaching 00:01:28.275 --> 00:01:30.422 a class; I'm downloading the outline 00:01:30.422 --> 00:01:33.124 from the website, and I'm sharing 00:01:33.124 --> 00:01:34.472 the Word of God; praise God. 00:01:34.472 --> 00:01:36.041 Write to us and let us know. 00:01:36.041 --> 00:01:38.098 Here's a note from Kyrol 00:01:38.098 --> 00:01:41.493 who writes to us from Papua New Guinea, 00:01:41.493 --> 00:01:43.879 and he says, "I'm truly blessed 00:01:43.879 --> 00:01:46.837 every Sabbath since I started watching 00:01:46.837 --> 00:01:48.149 Hope Sabbath School 00:01:48.149 --> 00:01:50.306 through YouTube last year." 00:01:50.306 --> 00:01:51.214 Well, I don't know. 00:01:51.214 --> 00:01:52.545 It's always dangerous to say 00:01:52.545 --> 00:01:54.920 how many subscribers we have. 00:01:54.920 --> 00:01:56.814 It's close to [120,000], 00:01:56.814 --> 00:01:58.626 but probably that will be out of date, 00:01:58.626 --> 00:02:00.719 Travis, by the next time we read it. 00:02:00.719 --> 00:02:02.872 But one of them is Kyrol 00:02:02.872 --> 00:02:04.819 in Papua New Guinea; isn't that awesome? 00:02:04.819 --> 00:02:05.990 (Team) Praise God. 00:02:05.990 --> 00:02:08.200 (Derek) "I've watched every Sabbath morning 00:02:08.200 --> 00:02:11.243 before I go to Bible study. 00:02:11.243 --> 00:02:13.830 Glory, honor and praise be to God 00:02:13.830 --> 00:02:15.462 for the Hope Sabbath School team." 00:02:15.462 --> 00:02:17.920 And we say? Praise God, right? 00:02:17.920 --> 00:02:19.671 "May God continue to bless 00:02:19.671 --> 00:02:22.779 and use all of you as His witnesses 00:02:22.779 --> 00:02:25.387 to share His amazing truths 00:02:25.387 --> 00:02:26.607 before Christ returns." 00:02:26.607 --> 00:02:27.890 What do we say? 00:02:27.890 --> 00:02:28.834 (Derek, Team) Amen. 00:02:28.834 --> 00:02:30.694 (Derek) Kyrol, thanks for writing to us 00:02:30.694 --> 00:02:32.452 from Papua New Guinea, and we're glad 00:02:32.452 --> 00:02:35.365 you are part of our global family. 00:02:35.365 --> 00:02:39.716 Well, Suwilanji writes to us from Zambia 00:02:39.716 --> 00:02:43.049 and says, "I am a Pentecostal preacher 00:02:43.049 --> 00:02:45.055 in Zambia, and I'm addicted 00:02:45.055 --> 00:02:46.385 to Hope Sabbath School." 00:02:46.385 --> 00:02:47.483 (Team) Wow. 00:02:47.483 --> 00:02:49.103 (Derek) Well, Suwilanji, thanks 00:02:49.103 --> 00:02:50.440 for writing to us. 00:02:50.440 --> 00:02:52.092 We're happy that you're sharing 00:02:52.092 --> 00:02:53.758 the gospel in your country 00:02:53.758 --> 00:02:56.347 and learning more about the Word of God 00:02:56.347 --> 00:02:57.498 on Hope Sabbath School. 00:02:57.498 --> 00:02:59.864 Thanks for your note. 00:02:59.864 --> 00:03:01.877 Here's a hand-written note 00:03:01.877 --> 00:03:04.029 from a donor in Maryland 00:03:04.029 --> 00:03:05.862 in the United States of America. 00:03:05.862 --> 00:03:07.699 For those of you who may not know, 00:03:07.699 --> 00:03:09.697 we actually film Hope Sabbath School 00:03:09.697 --> 00:03:11.453 in the state of Maryland. 00:03:11.453 --> 00:03:14.149 And the donor writes, 00:03:14.149 --> 00:03:16.523 "Hello, Hope Sabbath School." 00:03:16.523 --> 00:03:17.530 You know they do that 00:03:17.530 --> 00:03:19.207 so you'll wave, right? 00:03:19.207 --> 00:03:22.046 "I'm so happy to be with you once again 00:03:22.046 --> 00:03:24.113 to see your smiling faces, 00:03:24.113 --> 00:03:26.670 to be part of your interactive study 00:03:26.670 --> 00:03:29.885 that blesses my heart immensely. 00:03:29.885 --> 00:03:32.245 The study is so plain 00:03:32.245 --> 00:03:34.316 that even an 84-year-old 00:03:34.316 --> 00:03:36.973 like me can understand. 00:03:36.973 --> 00:03:39.406 The team members' testimonies 00:03:39.406 --> 00:03:42.018 are such a blessing to me. 00:03:42.018 --> 00:03:45.320 I thank God for the Hope Sabbath School team 00:03:45.320 --> 00:03:48.348 spreading the gospel around the world. 00:03:48.348 --> 00:03:50.330 Enclosed is a small contribution," 00:03:50.330 --> 00:03:53.499 the donor writes, but no donation is small 00:03:53.499 --> 00:03:55.106 when God blesses it, 00:03:55.106 --> 00:03:57.544 a donation of 50 dollars. 00:03:57.544 --> 00:04:00.046 Thank you so much, Donor in Maryland. 00:04:00.046 --> 00:04:01.422 You know who you are. 00:04:01.422 --> 00:04:03.294 And thanks to each one of you. 00:04:03.294 --> 00:04:04.936 We're a donor-supported minsitry. 00:04:04.936 --> 00:04:06.745 You say, "Derek, could I have a part?" 00:04:06.745 --> 00:04:08.700 Absolutely! Go to our website, 00:04:08.700 --> 00:04:11.625 hopetv.org/hopess, 00:04:11.625 --> 00:04:13.245 click on the yellow button 00:04:13.245 --> 00:04:15.458 and give online, or you get an address 00:04:15.458 --> 00:04:16.372 and write us a note 00:04:16.372 --> 00:04:18.077 just like this donor did. 00:04:18.077 --> 00:04:19.255 Thank you to each one 00:04:19.255 --> 00:04:20.753 for being part of this miracle. 00:04:20.753 --> 00:04:23.627 One last note, and I'm looking at Travis 00:04:23.627 --> 00:04:25.593 over here, Travis, because Nadine 00:04:25.593 --> 00:04:27.438 is writing from Guyana. 00:04:27.438 --> 00:04:29.099 So, I don't know if we can all 00:04:29.099 --> 00:04:32.178 give her a wave, but, Nadine, we want 00:04:32.178 --> 00:04:33.950 you to know one of our team members, 00:04:33.950 --> 00:04:35.800 Travis, was just in Guyana 00:04:35.800 --> 00:04:37.685 holding some meetings, and so that's 00:04:37.685 --> 00:04:40.183 a special place in [his] heart. 00:04:40.183 --> 00:04:41.468 "Thank you," Nadine writes, 00:04:41.468 --> 00:04:42.831 "for Hope Sabbath School. 00:04:42.831 --> 00:04:45.716 You are such a blessing to us. 00:04:45.716 --> 00:04:48.004 An interactive study of the Word of God 00:04:48.004 --> 00:04:49.643 helps me to have 00:04:49.643 --> 00:04:51.706 a closer relationship with Jesus." 00:04:51.706 --> 00:04:52.412 (Team) Amen. 00:04:52.412 --> 00:04:53.753 (Derek) That's why we do it! 00:04:53.753 --> 00:04:55.226 You know, the demons know a lot 00:04:55.226 --> 00:04:58.094 about the Bible, and people 00:04:58.094 --> 00:05:03.044 could win a Bible quiz and be lost. 00:05:03.044 --> 00:05:05.663 But when you study the Bible and have 00:05:05.663 --> 00:05:07.535 a closer relationship with Jesus, 00:05:07.535 --> 00:05:10.612 that's eternal salvation, isn't it? Awesome. 00:05:10.612 --> 00:05:12.349 "May God continue to bless you all. 00:05:12.349 --> 00:05:14.409 We love you all. Nadine." 00:05:14.409 --> 00:05:16.409 Well, Nadine, thanks for writing to us, 00:05:16.409 --> 00:05:18.892 and I'm excited that you are all part 00:05:18.892 --> 00:05:20.427 of our global family. 00:05:20.427 --> 00:05:21.750 We would love to hear 00:05:21.750 --> 00:05:23.561 from you, so, write to us. 00:05:23.561 --> 00:05:25.417 I noticed a lot of you put comments 00:05:25.417 --> 00:05:27.240 on the YouTube channel when you watch, 00:05:27.240 --> 00:05:29.025 and that's great, too, but you can 00:05:29.025 --> 00:05:33.605 also write to us at sshope@hopetv.org. 00:05:33.605 --> 00:05:35.504 Well, today we're going to learn 00:05:35.504 --> 00:05:36.891 a new theme song. 00:05:36.891 --> 00:05:39.557 It is 3,000 years old. 00:05:39.557 --> 00:05:41.114 We sing Scripture songs here 00:05:41.114 --> 00:05:42.337 on Hope Sabbath School. 00:05:42.337 --> 00:05:44.987 It is Psalm 63, and it says, 00:05:44.987 --> 00:05:47.737 "O God, You are my God; 00:05:47.737 --> 00:05:49.337 early will I seek You," 00:05:49.337 --> 00:05:50.940 but we lost the tune somewhere 00:05:50.940 --> 00:05:52.928 in the last 3,000 years, 00:05:52.928 --> 00:05:55.181 so my wife put a new tune to it. 00:05:55.181 --> 00:05:56.649 And you can go to our website 00:05:56.649 --> 00:05:59.033 and download the song free 00:05:59.033 --> 00:06:00.724 and the sheet music, if you'd like 00:06:00.724 --> 00:06:03.009 to sing it in your Bible study group. 00:06:03.009 --> 00:06:07.300 Just go to hopetv.org/hopess, 00:06:07.300 --> 00:06:09.687 that's our web address, 00:06:09.687 --> 00:06:11.971 and you can download the song, 00:06:11.971 --> 00:06:13.791 sheet music, and sing it. 00:06:13.791 --> 00:06:16.286 We'd like to teach it to you right now. 00:06:16.286 --> 00:06:30.045 ♪ music ♪ 00:09:22.511 --> 00:09:24.660 (Derek) Amen? Wow, that was beautiful. 00:09:24.660 --> 00:09:26.238 I hear you sing, too. 00:09:26.238 --> 00:09:28.137 You say, "Derek, you couldn't hear us," 00:09:28.137 --> 00:09:29.930 but I was just imagining you singing. 00:09:29.930 --> 00:09:31.873 And I just want to challenge us 00:09:31.873 --> 00:09:33.486 with the thought, when the enemy 00:09:33.486 --> 00:09:36.483 comes upon us like a flood, 00:09:36.483 --> 00:09:38.050 we just sing that song, "O God, 00:09:38.050 --> 00:09:39.058 You are my God; 00:09:39.058 --> 00:09:40.841 early will I seek You," right? 00:09:40.841 --> 00:09:42.766 We can run to God, a God 00:09:42.766 --> 00:09:45.424 of love and mercy who will welcome us 00:09:45.424 --> 00:09:46.246 with loving arms. 00:09:46.246 --> 00:09:47.382 Well, great to see 00:09:47.382 --> 00:09:48.796 our remotes singing, too. 00:09:48.796 --> 00:09:50.678 I know we can't see you all, 00:09:50.678 --> 00:09:52.359 but you're singing the Word, too, 00:09:52.359 --> 00:09:54.350 and we're hiding that Word in our hearts. 00:09:54.350 --> 00:09:56.890 Today, we're going to study 00:09:56.890 --> 00:09:58.189 how God Loves Freely. 00:09:58.189 --> 00:10:00.473 It's an amazing study, and we invite you 00:10:00.473 --> 00:10:02.589 to pray with us as we 00:10:02.589 --> 00:10:03.834 open the Word of God. 00:10:03.834 --> 00:10:05.603 Father in Heaven, thank You 00:10:05.603 --> 00:10:09.222 for the revelation in the Word of God. 00:10:09.222 --> 00:10:10.334 The Scripture is given 00:10:10.334 --> 00:10:12.146 by inspiration of God 00:10:12.146 --> 00:10:14.153 and is profitable for us. 00:10:14.153 --> 00:10:16.753 Guide us in our interactive study today 00:10:16.753 --> 00:10:17.921 by your Holy Spirit. 00:10:17.921 --> 00:10:21.391 We pray in Jesus' name. Amen. 00:10:21.391 --> 00:10:22.608 (Team) Amen. 00:10:22.608 --> 00:10:24.253 (Derek) Well, we're going to start 00:10:24.253 --> 00:10:25.768 in the book of Exodus, 00:10:25.768 --> 00:10:26.868 that's the second book 00:10:26.868 --> 00:10:29.419 of the Hebrew Scriptures, the second book 00:10:29.419 --> 00:10:31.724 of the Pentateuch as it's called. 00:10:31.724 --> 00:10:35.835 In Exodus, chapter 33, and, Puia, 00:10:35.835 --> 00:10:38.062 I'm going to ask you to begin our study 00:10:38.062 --> 00:10:41.636 today by reading verses 12 to 19. 00:10:41.636 --> 00:10:44.631 I want to invite you and those joining 00:10:44.631 --> 00:10:46.648 around the world to listen 00:10:46.648 --> 00:10:48.469 to what revelation we see 00:10:48.469 --> 00:10:52.669 of the character of God, here in Exodus 33. 00:10:52.669 --> 00:10:54.198 (Puia) Sure, and I'll be reading 00:10:54.198 --> 00:10:55.723 from the New King James Version, 00:10:55.723 --> 00:10:58.499 Exodus 33, verses 12 to 19: 00:12:25.016 --> 00:12:27.268 (Derek) Wow, that is amazing dialogue 00:12:27.268 --> 00:12:29.507 between the Lord and Moses. 00:12:29.507 --> 00:12:31.621 What are some lessons we can learn 00:12:31.621 --> 00:12:32.858 just from hearing it if we 00:12:32.858 --> 00:12:34.351 just had that one Scripture? 00:12:34.351 --> 00:12:35.257 What could we learn 00:12:35.257 --> 00:12:38.713 about the character of God? Kylynda? 00:12:38.713 --> 00:12:41.024 (Kylynda) God wants to be with us. 00:12:41.024 --> 00:12:43.491 (Derek) So, He's a relational God, 00:12:43.491 --> 00:12:45.391 which, by the way, we ought not to take 00:12:45.391 --> 00:12:47.496 for granted because a lot of pictures 00:12:47.496 --> 00:12:49.564 of God are like, "Well, He did something, 00:12:49.564 --> 00:12:50.904 and then He left." Harold? 00:12:50.904 --> 00:12:52.666 (Harold) Very personable, because you 00:12:52.666 --> 00:12:54.140 can talk to Him as a Person. 00:12:54.140 --> 00:12:55.796 (Derek) He wants a relationship, 00:12:55.796 --> 00:12:57.499 and He's communicating. 00:12:57.499 --> 00:12:59.255 Alright. Yes, James. 00:12:59.255 --> 00:13:01.129 (James) He is a God of companionship. 00:13:01.129 --> 00:13:03.078 Moses asked for a companion, 00:13:03.078 --> 00:13:05.073 and God said, "I will be your Companion." 00:13:05.073 --> 00:13:05.934 (Derek) "I will go 00:13:05.934 --> 00:13:07.321 with you," that's right. 00:13:07.321 --> 00:13:09.120 Gleny, what do you hear in this text 00:13:09.120 --> 00:13:10.770 that impresses you 00:13:10.770 --> 00:13:13.460 about the character of God? 00:13:13.460 --> 00:13:15.342 (Gleny) Besides all that was mentioned, 00:13:15.342 --> 00:13:17.289 we see that He is good, 00:13:17.289 --> 00:13:18.775 He shows a lot of compassion, 00:13:18.775 --> 00:13:21.015 and He desires to be known. 00:13:21.015 --> 00:13:24.223 (Derek) Alright, that's a good point Gleny makes. 00:13:24.223 --> 00:13:27.243 His goodness, don't take that 00:13:27.243 --> 00:13:28.638 for granted, you know? 00:13:28.638 --> 00:13:31.419 It's that God is good. 00:13:31.419 --> 00:13:35.814 He wants a relationship with us. Don? 00:13:35.814 --> 00:13:37.377 (Don) Also with the first text, 00:13:37.377 --> 00:13:39.441 "I know you by your name." 00:13:39.441 --> 00:13:41.392 (Derek) Thank you for pointing that out. 00:13:41.392 --> 00:13:43.255 So, talk about companionship 00:13:43.255 --> 00:13:46.915 but not just with Moses, He wants 00:13:46.915 --> 00:13:48.536 a personal relationship with us. 00:13:48.536 --> 00:13:50.923 Now, to put that in context, 00:13:50.923 --> 00:13:53.270 Sophia, if you could go back one chapter 00:13:53.270 --> 00:13:57.232 with us, take us back to Exodus 32 00:13:57.232 --> 00:13:59.420 and read the first three verses. 00:13:59.420 --> 00:14:01.011 Let's have a little context. 00:14:01.011 --> 00:14:02.790 God is saying, "I want a relationship 00:14:02.790 --> 00:14:04.004 with you; I want to show 00:14:04.004 --> 00:14:05.178 My compassion and love." 00:14:05.178 --> 00:14:07.522 Let's see what's just happened 00:14:07.522 --> 00:14:09.428 as part of the exodus. 00:14:09.428 --> 00:14:10.573 (Sophia) I'll be reading 00:14:10.573 --> 00:14:12.099 from the New King James Version, 00:14:12.099 --> 00:14:14.325 chapter 32, verses 1 through 3: 00:14:44.636 --> 00:14:47.629 (Derek) And what did they do with that, anybody remember? 00:14:47.629 --> 00:14:48.718 (Team) Golden calf. 00:14:48.718 --> 00:14:50.412 (Derek) They made a golden calf! 00:14:50.412 --> 00:14:52.670 And not only did they make a golden calf, 00:14:52.670 --> 00:14:54.596 but what did they say? 00:14:54.596 --> 00:14:55.887 (Sophia) "This is our god." 00:14:55.887 --> 00:14:57.902 (Derek) That, "you're the god that brought 00:14:57.902 --> 00:14:58.719 us out of Egypt"! 00:14:58.719 --> 00:15:01.125 I mean, it's like, terrible! 00:15:01.125 --> 00:15:03.753 And yet, in the context of that, 00:15:03.753 --> 00:15:05.635 God shows His love. 00:15:05.635 --> 00:15:07.637 Now, I want to ask Tricia Lee a question. 00:15:07.637 --> 00:15:09.168 Tricia Lee, we always appreciate 00:15:09.168 --> 00:15:10.824 hearing from you. 00:15:10.824 --> 00:15:12.431 Tricia Lee, it says, "I will 00:15:12.431 --> 00:15:14.365 have compassion on whom I 00:15:14.365 --> 00:15:16.259 will have compassion," 00:15:16.259 --> 00:15:18.140 but tell me somewhere else 00:15:18.140 --> 00:15:20.255 in the Scripture, how many people 00:15:20.255 --> 00:15:22.282 does God have compassion on? 00:15:22.282 --> 00:15:23.943 (Tricia Lee) God has compassion 00:15:23.943 --> 00:15:25.304 on all people; we know that 00:15:25.304 --> 00:15:28.043 from John, chapter 3, verse 16. 00:15:28.043 --> 00:15:29.714 (Derek) And what does it say there? 00:15:29.714 --> 00:15:30.902 Have you memorized it? 00:15:30.902 --> 00:15:32.399 (Tricia Lee) It says, "For God 00:15:32.399 --> 00:15:33.961 so loved the world that He gave 00:15:33.961 --> 00:15:37.149 His only begotten Son, that whosoever 00:15:37.149 --> 00:15:39.811 believes in Him should not perish 00:15:39.811 --> 00:15:42.496 but have everlasting life." 00:15:42.496 --> 00:15:44.308 (Derek) So, I just don't want a person 00:15:44.308 --> 00:15:46.498 to say, "Well, I guess He has compassion 00:15:46.498 --> 00:15:47.809 on the ones," and then pick 00:15:47.809 --> 00:15:51.030 a few here and have compassion on them. 00:15:51.030 --> 00:15:53.059 As Tricia Lee quoted (I think she's got 00:15:53.059 --> 00:15:55.410 another comment to share), "God so loved..."? 00:15:55.410 --> 00:15:56.484 (Team) "...the world." 00:15:56.484 --> 00:15:58.465 (Derek) Right. You want to add to that? 00:15:58.465 --> 00:16:00.480 (Tricia Lee) When I think about that verse 00:16:00.480 --> 00:16:02.010 in Exodus, "I'll have compassion 00:16:02.010 --> 00:16:03.437 on whom I'll have compassion," 00:16:03.437 --> 00:16:04.392 " I will be gracious 00:16:04.392 --> 00:16:06.161 to whom I will be gracious," I think 00:16:06.161 --> 00:16:07.275 about it in the context 00:16:07.275 --> 00:16:09.195 of the immediate request that Moses 00:16:09.195 --> 00:16:10.798 made to God where he said, 00:16:10.798 --> 00:16:12.845 "Show me Your glory." 00:16:12.845 --> 00:16:14.989 And we know that no one can see God's face 00:16:14.989 --> 00:16:17.532 or His full glory and live, and so I think 00:16:17.532 --> 00:16:19.917 that was just God responding and saying, 00:16:19.917 --> 00:16:22.849 "Yes, I will be gracious in showing you 00:16:22.849 --> 00:16:24.034 who I am, and I will be 00:16:24.034 --> 00:16:26.487 compassionate enough to let you survive 00:16:26.487 --> 00:16:28.780 this encounter and experience with Me." 00:16:28.780 --> 00:16:30.755 I think it was just more God expressing 00:16:30.755 --> 00:16:33.278 that in this request, "Show me Your face, 00:16:33.278 --> 00:16:35.384 show me Your glory," that He was saying, 00:16:35.384 --> 00:16:37.497 "Yes, I can answer and honor 00:16:37.497 --> 00:16:40.496 that special request for you, Moses." 00:16:40.496 --> 00:16:42.448 (Derek) Well, with such an amazing view - 00:16:42.448 --> 00:16:44.357 and, Travis, I want to hear your point - 00:16:44.357 --> 00:16:46.725 with such an amazing view 00:16:46.725 --> 00:16:50.703 of the character of God loving the world, 00:16:50.703 --> 00:16:53.581 why are there so many people 00:16:53.581 --> 00:16:55.206 with distorted views 00:16:55.206 --> 00:16:56.693 of the character of God? 00:16:56.693 --> 00:16:58.586 If you want, make your comment first, 00:16:58.586 --> 00:17:00.913 Travis, and then build on that question. 00:17:00.913 --> 00:17:03.874 (Travis) So, when I read those verses, 00:17:03.874 --> 00:17:06.461 and I read that God would be gracious 00:17:06.461 --> 00:17:07.933 to whom He would be gracious, 00:17:07.933 --> 00:17:09.907 I immediately thought there are people 00:17:09.907 --> 00:17:11.645 in the world that we may see that we 00:17:11.645 --> 00:17:14.743 would believe shouldn't be extended grace. 00:17:14.743 --> 00:17:17.240 And then I remembered, anyone who calls 00:17:17.240 --> 00:17:20.069 on the name of the Lord shall be saved. 00:17:20.069 --> 00:17:23.383 And I think the reason that that was 00:17:23.383 --> 00:17:25.779 written in there is that we may 00:17:25.779 --> 00:17:28.765 in our human minds believe that a person 00:17:28.765 --> 00:17:30.122 shouldn't be extended grace. 00:17:30.122 --> 00:17:31.897 But God says, "I will have compassion 00:17:31.897 --> 00:17:33.771 on whom I will have compassion." 00:17:33.771 --> 00:17:36.730 (Derek) Wow, so people that we 00:17:36.730 --> 00:17:39.367 may not think deserve... 00:17:39.367 --> 00:17:41.150 That could have been us at some point 00:17:41.150 --> 00:17:42.687 in our lives, right? Samantha? 00:17:42.687 --> 00:17:44.348 (Samantha) To answer your question 00:17:44.348 --> 00:17:47.501 about why people have... 00:17:47.501 --> 00:17:48.758 (Derek) Distorted views? 00:17:48.758 --> 00:17:50.645 (Samantha) Yes, I feel like it's 00:17:50.645 --> 00:17:52.019 just what the devil does. 00:17:52.019 --> 00:17:54.565 He tries to discredit who God is, 00:17:54.565 --> 00:17:57.161 and so he puts the wrong thoughts 00:17:57.161 --> 00:17:59.187 of God in peoples' minds. 00:17:59.187 --> 00:18:01.136 Instead of having them believe 00:18:01.136 --> 00:18:04.514 that, "Okay, yes," he has them think, 00:18:04.514 --> 00:18:06.474 "Why would a loving God cause 00:18:06.474 --> 00:18:08.366 your family member to die?" 00:18:08.366 --> 00:18:09.871 "Why would a loving God cause 00:18:09.871 --> 00:18:12.473 your wife to become sick?" 00:18:12.473 --> 00:18:14.437 And so, I feel like it just all a part 00:18:14.437 --> 00:18:16.640 of that Great Controversy where Satan 00:18:16.640 --> 00:18:18.741 tries to discredit who God is. 00:18:18.741 --> 00:18:20.562 And people who do not have 00:18:20.562 --> 00:18:23.443 that full understanding of Him, it's easy 00:18:23.443 --> 00:18:24.637 because if you don't have 00:18:24.637 --> 00:18:27.180 that full armor, then you can easily fall 00:18:27.180 --> 00:18:29.553 for anything that the devil brings to you. 00:18:29.553 --> 00:18:31.126 (Derek) And unfortunately, if you 00:18:31.126 --> 00:18:32.122 look, for example... 00:18:32.122 --> 00:18:34.730 And I see Gleny's hand and Kylynda's, too, 00:18:34.730 --> 00:18:35.994 and Harold; there are lots 00:18:35.994 --> 00:18:37.132 of hands raised here. 00:18:37.132 --> 00:18:38.404 Unfortunately, if you look 00:18:38.404 --> 00:18:41.733 at medieval art, you know, God looks 00:18:41.733 --> 00:18:44.697 like a horrible Person, and He's 00:18:44.697 --> 00:18:46.813 just trying to torture people, 00:18:46.813 --> 00:18:51.523 so it's not just in my imagination. 00:18:51.523 --> 00:18:54.236 There have been people teaching 00:18:54.236 --> 00:18:57.261 false ideas about the character of God. 00:18:57.261 --> 00:18:58.608 I'm going to take the hands, 00:18:58.608 --> 00:18:59.897 and we're going to move on. 00:18:59.897 --> 00:19:01.783 Kylynda, Gleny and Harold. 00:19:01.783 --> 00:19:03.736 (Kylynda) To go off what you said, Derek, 00:19:03.736 --> 00:19:05.087 in the end of Luke 11, Jesus 00:19:05.087 --> 00:19:07.134 critiques the religious leaders, 00:19:07.134 --> 00:19:08.897 and He says, "You know, you're 00:19:08.897 --> 00:19:11.333 overburdening people, you're making God 00:19:11.333 --> 00:19:13.275 seem like a tyrant that's only concerned 00:19:13.275 --> 00:19:16.120 about the smallest external effects, 00:19:16.120 --> 00:19:18.589 not the internal transformation." 00:19:18.589 --> 00:19:20.544 So some of our perception of God 00:19:20.544 --> 00:19:23.045 can, unfortunately, be distorted 00:19:23.045 --> 00:19:25.257 by different religious leaders 00:19:25.257 --> 00:19:27.179 or religious mentors who portray God 00:19:27.179 --> 00:19:29.467 in a way that isn't compassionate, 00:19:29.467 --> 00:19:31.051 that isn't relational. 00:19:31.051 --> 00:19:32.989 (Derek) False teaching. 00:19:32.989 --> 00:19:35.848 Gleny and then Harold. 00:19:35.848 --> 00:19:37.643 (Gleny) Yes, I just wanted to support 00:19:37.643 --> 00:19:39.164 Kylynda's point, too. 00:19:39.164 --> 00:19:40.985 You have your early caregivers, 00:19:40.985 --> 00:19:43.277 like maybe even your parents, teachers, 00:19:43.277 --> 00:19:45.297 as you had mentioned, people who are 00:19:45.297 --> 00:19:48.533 set up to give a representation of God, 00:19:48.533 --> 00:19:50.755 a good example of God, but somehow failed. 00:19:50.755 --> 00:19:53.064 And that makes you wonder, "If the people 00:19:53.064 --> 00:19:55.466 I looked up to had inflicted 00:19:55.466 --> 00:19:57.560 and caused so much pain, 00:19:57.560 --> 00:19:59.605 then God must be the same, too." 00:19:59.605 --> 00:20:01.721 (Derek) Ahh. Harold? 00:20:01.721 --> 00:20:03.281 (Harold) And I just want to add, 00:20:03.281 --> 00:20:04.995 because, yes, the issue of suffering 00:20:04.995 --> 00:20:07.022 and evil are some of the biggest questions 00:20:07.022 --> 00:20:08.888 that everybody has, even atheists have. 00:20:08.888 --> 00:20:11.331 It's like, how can a loving God reconcile 00:20:11.331 --> 00:20:13.034 the suffering that is in the world? 00:20:13.034 --> 00:20:15.044 But we cannot forget that our God 00:20:15.044 --> 00:20:16.605 also suffered with us. 00:20:16.605 --> 00:20:19.064 He is not indifferent to our suffering. 00:20:19.064 --> 00:20:21.282 Now, as to why He allows suffering, 00:20:21.282 --> 00:20:22.732 many times we do not know, 00:20:22.732 --> 00:20:24.761 but He does give us the courage 00:20:24.761 --> 00:20:26.112 because He suffered with us, 00:20:26.112 --> 00:20:28.088 and He tells us, "I'll be with you. 00:20:28.088 --> 00:20:29.491 I will give you the strength 00:20:29.491 --> 00:20:31.298 that you'll need to go through this," 00:20:31.298 --> 00:20:33.013 and eventually we'll know the truth. 00:20:33.013 --> 00:20:34.744 There is a battle behind the scenes 00:20:34.744 --> 00:20:37.370 in the spiritual realm, and God will give us the answer. 00:20:37.370 --> 00:20:38.918 (Derek) Do you know the amount - 00:20:38.918 --> 00:20:40.943 and we're going to move on - but the amount 00:20:40.943 --> 00:20:42.610 of interaction right now - and it's 00:20:42.610 --> 00:20:44.360 like I said, there are 11 of us 00:20:44.360 --> 00:20:47.431 on the team and 14 hands raised - 00:20:47.431 --> 00:20:50.077 shows that this is really, 00:20:50.077 --> 00:20:51.722 we have an expression in English, 00:20:51.722 --> 00:20:54.014 like a hot-button issue. 00:20:54.014 --> 00:20:55.283 People are like, "What is 00:20:55.283 --> 00:20:57.243 the character of God like?" 00:20:57.243 --> 00:21:00.046 We start with a clear revelation 00:21:00.046 --> 00:21:02.091 that God is good, He wants 00:21:02.091 --> 00:21:03.500 a personal relationship, 00:21:03.500 --> 00:21:05.301 He knows us by name, 00:21:05.301 --> 00:21:07.831 and He loves the whole world. 00:21:07.831 --> 00:21:10.092 Now, before we come back to talk 00:21:10.092 --> 00:21:12.859 about how we can show that to the world, 00:21:12.859 --> 00:21:15.180 because there is a lot of distortion, 00:21:15.180 --> 00:21:17.925 let's think about some stories 00:21:17.925 --> 00:21:22.047 in the Bible which show God's love 00:21:22.047 --> 00:21:24.614 for people who either ignore 00:21:24.614 --> 00:21:26.514 or don't appreciate His love. 00:21:26.514 --> 00:21:27.803 Because you said He loves 00:21:27.803 --> 00:21:30.603 even the unworthy people, right? 00:21:30.603 --> 00:21:32.821 Can anybody think of a story? 00:21:32.821 --> 00:21:34.741 Don, can you think of a story? 00:21:34.741 --> 00:21:38.279 (Don) This reminds me of the Prodigal Son. 00:21:38.279 --> 00:21:41.355 The Prodigal Son when he [told] his dad, 00:21:41.355 --> 00:21:44.425 or his father, "Give me my inheritance," 00:21:44.425 --> 00:21:45.736 but the problem was he 00:21:45.736 --> 00:21:47.840 squandered it all, right? 00:21:47.840 --> 00:21:51.795 But if we compare this to God's love, 00:21:51.795 --> 00:21:53.634 God's love is steadfast. 00:21:53.634 --> 00:21:56.773 His love remains toward us. 00:21:56.773 --> 00:21:58.383 (Derek) But in that same story, 00:21:58.383 --> 00:21:59.882 when he does come home, 00:21:59.882 --> 00:22:02.012 how does the father respond? 00:22:02.012 --> 00:22:04.116 (Don) He accepts him back fully. 00:22:04.116 --> 00:22:05.280 (Derek) What does he do? 00:22:05.280 --> 00:22:06.713 (Team Member) Throws a feast. 00:22:06.713 --> 00:22:08.547 (Derek) He throws his arms around him, 00:22:08.547 --> 00:22:09.813 he kisses him on the neck, 00:22:09.813 --> 00:22:11.372 he throws a party for him. 00:22:11.372 --> 00:22:13.245 And by the way, I don't know about you, 00:22:13.245 --> 00:22:14.505 but some people say, "Oh, 00:22:14.505 --> 00:22:16.247 terrible Prodigal Son," but the son 00:22:16.247 --> 00:22:18.504 that stayed home wasn't very nice, 00:22:18.504 --> 00:22:21.357 and yet the father loved him, too, right? 00:22:21.357 --> 00:22:22.887 Anybody else, think of a story, 00:22:22.887 --> 00:22:26.445 Tricia Lee, a story where it's obvious 00:22:26.445 --> 00:22:27.811 that God is showing love 00:22:27.811 --> 00:22:29.211 even to the people that may 00:22:29.211 --> 00:22:35.350 ignore His love or not welcome His love. 00:22:35.350 --> 00:22:36.324 (Tricia Lee) I think 00:22:36.324 --> 00:22:38.262 about an Old Testament story, 00:22:38.262 --> 00:22:40.512 the story of the people of Nineveh 00:22:40.512 --> 00:22:42.402 of this Assyrian Empire. 00:22:42.402 --> 00:22:44.661 They were known for being very violent 00:22:44.661 --> 00:22:47.361 and cruel, not just to others they 00:22:47.361 --> 00:22:49.808 were conquering but also to themselves. 00:22:49.808 --> 00:22:52.032 And God sent a prophet to warn them 00:22:52.032 --> 00:22:53.316 to correct their ways, 00:22:53.316 --> 00:22:55.931 and he traveled over a whole sea, 00:22:55.931 --> 00:22:58.111 took a ship to reach them, 00:22:58.111 --> 00:23:00.330 But He loved them enough to send them 00:23:00.330 --> 00:23:02.019 a warning message and give them 00:23:02.019 --> 00:23:04.248 an opportunity to change their ways, 00:23:04.248 --> 00:23:06.019 which they did take advantage of. 00:23:06.019 --> 00:23:08.129 And I thought that was an act of love. 00:23:08.129 --> 00:23:09.695 He didn't just leave them 00:23:09.695 --> 00:23:12.142 to just destroy themselves, or destroy them 00:23:12.142 --> 00:23:13.945 without a warning, but He gave them 00:23:13.945 --> 00:23:16.461 an opportunity to really realize, 00:23:16.461 --> 00:23:18.954 "You can do better; you can live better." 00:23:18.954 --> 00:23:20.619 (Derek) So, He shows love to them 00:23:20.619 --> 00:23:22.054 even though the prophet Jonah 00:23:22.054 --> 00:23:24.496 complained about it, like, "God, 00:23:24.496 --> 00:23:26.983 You're really too loving." 00:23:26.983 --> 00:23:28.377 It would be easy to talk 00:23:28.377 --> 00:23:30.718 about the Ninevites who were very violent, 00:23:30.718 --> 00:23:32.933 like Tricia Lee mentioned, 00:23:32.933 --> 00:23:34.862 but actually His own people, 00:23:34.862 --> 00:23:36.005 the children of Israel, 00:23:36.005 --> 00:23:37.666 were very wayward, too. 00:23:37.666 --> 00:23:41.575 I want someone to summarize the mission 00:23:41.575 --> 00:23:43.740 of the prophet Hosea, 00:23:43.740 --> 00:23:46.138 what God asked him to do, 00:23:46.138 --> 00:23:49.454 and what was God trying to teach 00:23:49.454 --> 00:23:52.336 about the extent of His love? 00:23:52.336 --> 00:23:54.774 Anybody want to try a summary? Kylynda. 00:23:54.774 --> 00:23:56.494 (Kylynda) Hosea was a prophet 00:23:56.494 --> 00:23:58.276 for the children of Israel in a time 00:23:58.276 --> 00:24:00.935 when they were often backsliding from God. 00:24:00.935 --> 00:24:02.855 So God [told] the prophet, "I want you 00:24:02.855 --> 00:24:04.478 to marry a woman that you know 00:24:04.478 --> 00:24:06.063 will be unfaithful to you." 00:24:06.063 --> 00:24:06.855 (Derek) Ouch! 00:24:06.855 --> 00:24:09.996 (Kylynda) Right? Quite harsh, but Hosea 00:24:09.996 --> 00:24:11.347 follows God's command. 00:24:11.347 --> 00:24:12.464 He marries Gomer, 00:24:12.464 --> 00:24:15.178 and what happens, happens. 00:24:15.178 --> 00:24:17.756 She has multiple children; 00:24:17.756 --> 00:24:18.982 they're not Hosea's. 00:24:18.982 --> 00:24:21.217 Hosea gives them names that indicate 00:24:21.217 --> 00:24:22.506 this kind of separation 00:24:22.506 --> 00:24:24.249 between God and His people, 00:24:24.249 --> 00:24:27.944 like a child named "Not My People." 00:24:27.944 --> 00:24:30.190 And eventually, even though it's 00:24:30.190 --> 00:24:33.236 not quite clear in the Bible, Gomer 00:24:33.236 --> 00:24:35.800 falls into slavery; it's implicated 00:24:35.800 --> 00:24:38.523 that this [is of] a sexual nature. 00:24:38.523 --> 00:24:43.019 And God says, "Go back to her, be faithful to her even though she's 00:24:43.019 --> 00:24:44.230 not faithful to you." 00:24:44.230 --> 00:24:45.545 (Derek) Doesn't he have 00:24:45.545 --> 00:24:46.977 to actually purchase her back? 00:24:46.977 --> 00:24:49.441 (Kylynda) He redeems her from slavery with money. 00:24:49.441 --> 00:24:50.657 (Derek) Is that a picture 00:24:50.657 --> 00:24:51.595 of the love of God? 00:24:51.595 --> 00:24:53.032 I hope you're listening today, 00:24:53.032 --> 00:24:53.987 that God loves us 00:24:53.987 --> 00:24:56.561 with an immeasurable and unfailing love. 00:24:56.561 --> 00:24:58.628 But just telling that story, 00:24:58.628 --> 00:25:01.754 putting ourselves as a spouse, 00:25:01.754 --> 00:25:03.827 whether a husband or a wife, 00:25:03.827 --> 00:25:06.928 with an unfaithful spouse, 00:25:06.928 --> 00:25:10.789 it would be easy for us to say what? 00:25:10.789 --> 00:25:13.366 "I'm done. I'm done," right? 00:25:13.366 --> 00:25:14.578 (Don) Ready to separate. 00:25:14.578 --> 00:25:16.597 (Derek) Right, but God continues, 00:25:16.597 --> 00:25:19.002 and you're saying, even when she's 00:25:19.002 --> 00:25:21.738 in some kind of enslaved situation. 00:25:21.738 --> 00:25:23.270 (Kylynda) Yes, Hosea goes back. 00:25:23.270 --> 00:25:25.912 He redeems her; he purchases her debt, 00:25:25.912 --> 00:25:28.503 and he loves her, and he says, 00:25:28.503 --> 00:25:29.922 "What's past is past. 00:25:29.922 --> 00:25:31.842 Now we'll be faithful to each other. 00:25:31.842 --> 00:25:33.422 You'll be faithful." 00:25:33.422 --> 00:25:35.053 (Derek) So, I'm going to ask James 00:25:35.053 --> 00:25:37.679 to take us to that little book of Hosea, 00:25:37.679 --> 00:25:40.903 to chapter 14, because there is 00:25:40.903 --> 00:25:46.195 a beautiful revelation, again, 00:25:46.195 --> 00:25:49.384 as Sophia read with the Exodus revelation, 00:25:49.384 --> 00:25:50.906 they had just been dancing naked 00:25:50.906 --> 00:25:52.753 around a golden calf and calling it 00:25:52.753 --> 00:25:55.214 the god that delivered them. 00:25:55.214 --> 00:25:59.848 And here, waywardness typified 00:25:59.848 --> 00:26:02.997 by Gomer's behavior, let's see 00:26:02.997 --> 00:26:06.539 how the Lord speaks in chapter 14 00:26:06.539 --> 00:26:08.425 of Hosea, verses 1 to 4. 00:26:08.425 --> 00:26:10.026 (James) Sure, and I'll be reading 00:26:10.026 --> 00:26:11.933 from the New King James Version: 00:26:56.637 --> 00:26:57.854 (Derek) What do you think 00:26:57.854 --> 00:27:03.657 about that immeasurable, unfailing love 00:27:03.657 --> 00:27:06.778 of God even with such waywardness? Sophia? 00:27:06.778 --> 00:27:09.016 (Sophia) He's such a forgiving Person. 00:27:09.016 --> 00:27:10.581 (Derek) Yeah, forgiving. 00:27:10.581 --> 00:27:12.353 (Sophia) Even when He was so angry, 00:27:12.353 --> 00:27:14.161 you know, cast them away from Himself. 00:27:14.161 --> 00:27:16.286 (Derek) Is it okay to be angry 00:27:16.286 --> 00:27:18.485 when things like that happen? 00:27:18.485 --> 00:27:20.445 Doesn't Scripture say, "Be angry and..."? 00:27:20.445 --> 00:27:21.415 (Harold) Do not sin. 00:27:21.415 --> 00:27:22.916 (Derek) "Don't sin," right? 00:27:22.916 --> 00:27:25.083 So, there's every reason to be angry. 00:27:25.083 --> 00:27:29.605 Actually, not so much angry at the person, 00:27:29.605 --> 00:27:32.667 but angry at what sin is doing 00:27:32.667 --> 00:27:36.341 to damage someone that you love, right? 00:27:36.341 --> 00:27:38.477 "I will heal their backsliding. 00:27:38.477 --> 00:27:42.320 I will love them freely." Yes, Puia. 00:27:42.320 --> 00:27:43.887 (Puia) A verse like this, Derek, 00:27:43.887 --> 00:27:46.496 gives me hope that there is forgiveness 00:27:46.496 --> 00:27:49.459 and a new start for everyone. 00:27:49.459 --> 00:27:51.504 There may be someone here 00:27:51.504 --> 00:27:52.998 listening or among us... 00:27:52.998 --> 00:27:55.477 You know, oftentimes we fall, 00:27:55.477 --> 00:27:57.272 and we make mistakes, and the guilt 00:27:57.272 --> 00:27:59.283 and shame that comes along with it 00:27:59.283 --> 00:28:01.080 is too much to bear for us. 00:28:01.080 --> 00:28:04.201 But here we see God letting us know 00:28:04.201 --> 00:28:05.987 that, "I will heal you. 00:28:05.987 --> 00:28:07.181 You can have a new start, 00:28:07.181 --> 00:28:09.221 a new beginning," what a hope. 00:28:09.221 --> 00:28:11.252 (Derek) I'm going to ask Faith a question. 00:28:11.252 --> 00:28:15.885 Faith, did you grow up... 00:28:15.885 --> 00:28:17.612 I don't know the answer, by the way, 00:28:17.612 --> 00:28:19.806 so there's no right or wrong answer, 00:28:19.806 --> 00:28:22.700 but did you grow up with that perspective 00:28:22.700 --> 00:28:25.772 of the love of God, that even when we 00:28:25.772 --> 00:28:29.920 make terrible choices like Gomer made, 00:28:29.920 --> 00:28:32.450 right, like the children of Israel made 00:28:32.450 --> 00:28:34.791 at various times, that God was 00:28:34.791 --> 00:28:36.947 relentless in His pursuit 00:28:36.947 --> 00:28:38.279 of them to love them? 00:28:38.279 --> 00:28:40.265 Did you grow up with that kind of picture 00:28:40.265 --> 00:28:41.479 of the love of God? 00:28:41.479 --> 00:28:43.676 (Faith) Yes, I think that picture 00:28:43.676 --> 00:28:46.339 was also shown in my parents. 00:28:46.339 --> 00:28:49.882 Obviously they disciplined, but they 00:28:49.882 --> 00:28:53.399 taught us, and they continued to pursue us 00:28:53.399 --> 00:28:55.962 to steer us in the right direction 00:28:55.962 --> 00:28:57.605 and guide us and say, "Oh, this is 00:28:57.605 --> 00:28:58.894 the right thing to do," 00:28:58.894 --> 00:29:00.820 and never give up on us. 00:29:00.820 --> 00:29:02.581 And I think as I got older, 00:29:02.581 --> 00:29:05.583 and now I'm in college, I have 00:29:05.583 --> 00:29:07.920 a big community, and I also continue 00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:10.149 to read the Bible daily, which allows me 00:29:10.149 --> 00:29:12.394 to see that God won't give up. 00:29:12.394 --> 00:29:15.219 And it's like Puia was saying, 00:29:15.219 --> 00:29:18.349 you have that shame and guilt, 00:29:18.349 --> 00:29:20.283 but you've got to make sure you 00:29:20.283 --> 00:29:21.659 go directly to God, 00:29:21.659 --> 00:29:23.299 and you don't sit in that. 00:29:23.299 --> 00:29:24.469 So, yeah, I did grow up 00:29:24.469 --> 00:29:26.485 with that picture of God. 00:29:26.485 --> 00:29:27.689 (Derek) Thank you so much 00:29:27.689 --> 00:29:28.864 for sharing that, Faith. 00:29:28.864 --> 00:29:31.394 This leads me to a question, 00:29:31.394 --> 00:29:32.980 an interaction question for us, 00:29:32.980 --> 00:29:35.372 because Faith said she saw that 00:29:35.372 --> 00:29:37.369 revealed in her parents, right? 00:29:37.369 --> 00:29:39.678 So, the question I wanted to ask, 00:29:39.678 --> 00:29:41.988 and I think this is a good time: 00:29:41.988 --> 00:29:45.287 With so many distortions 00:29:45.287 --> 00:29:46.592 of the character of God - 00:29:46.592 --> 00:29:47.860 and we see God here, 00:29:47.860 --> 00:29:51.033 loving freely, relentlessly - 00:29:51.033 --> 00:29:53.182 how can we help, Harold, 00:29:53.182 --> 00:29:55.156 how can we help people 00:29:55.156 --> 00:29:57.094 to see a clearer revelation 00:29:57.094 --> 00:29:58.634 of the character of God? 00:29:58.634 --> 00:30:00.687 (Harold) Well, in my case, I believe 00:30:00.687 --> 00:30:01.957 that you need to meet them 00:30:01.957 --> 00:30:04.603 where they're at, reflect God's character. 00:30:04.603 --> 00:30:06.713 If they need a companion, be there. 00:30:06.713 --> 00:30:08.397 If they need help, provide the help 00:30:08.397 --> 00:30:10.018 that they need, because at the end 00:30:10.018 --> 00:30:12.362 of the day, we are ambassadors of Christ. 00:30:12.362 --> 00:30:14.032 We are to represent Him. 00:30:14.032 --> 00:30:16.450 And even Paul says, "The only reason 00:30:16.450 --> 00:30:18.838 why the Gentiles blaspheme the name of God 00:30:18.838 --> 00:30:22.048 is because of you, of your example, 00:30:22.048 --> 00:30:24.058 because you do things, you're hypocrites." 00:30:24.058 --> 00:30:25.895 We're all hypocrites; I've been there. 00:30:25.895 --> 00:30:27.824 (Derek) ...a personal question, Harold, 00:30:27.824 --> 00:30:29.460 because I know you didn't grow up 00:30:29.460 --> 00:30:31.490 in a very strong Christian family. 00:30:31.490 --> 00:30:35.759 So, who helped you - because some people 00:30:35.759 --> 00:30:37.611 have heard a little of your testimony, 00:30:37.611 --> 00:30:40.409 it's quite amazing - but who helped you 00:30:40.409 --> 00:30:43.438 to see that revelation of a God 00:30:43.438 --> 00:30:45.037 who loves freely? 00:30:45.037 --> 00:30:47.411 (Harold) Well, it took, after I was 00:30:47.411 --> 00:30:49.529 introduced to God, maybe 15 years later. 00:30:49.529 --> 00:30:50.689 It was a friend of mine 00:30:50.689 --> 00:30:52.467 in Rochester, New York. 00:30:52.467 --> 00:30:55.902 I never heard that representation of God 00:30:55.902 --> 00:30:57.878 the way she presented it to me. 00:30:57.878 --> 00:30:59.691 I mean, she was not perfect, you know, 00:30:59.691 --> 00:31:02.516 she had her flaws, yet all these years 00:31:02.516 --> 00:31:05.527 I thought God was very demanding, 00:31:05.527 --> 00:31:07.818 very vindictive, and I was 00:31:07.818 --> 00:31:08.910 always afraid of Him. 00:31:08.910 --> 00:31:09.960 But when she said, 00:31:09.960 --> 00:31:11.730 "God is very compassionate. 00:31:11.730 --> 00:31:13.933 You can talk to Him as a friend,"... 00:31:13.933 --> 00:31:15.271 I always had to talk to Him, 00:31:15.271 --> 00:31:17.806 like, with this reverence of like, 00:31:17.806 --> 00:31:19.575 "Oh, yes, Sir," "No, Sir," but I talk 00:31:19.575 --> 00:31:21.075 to Him as a friend. 00:31:21.075 --> 00:31:24.516 And I believe that He can forgive. 00:31:24.516 --> 00:31:26.373 I did not believe He forgave, before. 00:31:26.373 --> 00:31:27.446 Even though I've heard 00:31:27.446 --> 00:31:28.787 the message of forgiveness, 00:31:28.787 --> 00:31:30.569 I did not believe he actually forgave 00:31:30.569 --> 00:31:32.000 because I was too full of sin. 00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:33.393 I thought I had to be perfect 00:31:33.393 --> 00:31:34.989 before I would present myself... 00:31:34.989 --> 00:31:36.754 (Derek) Accepted by Him. 00:31:36.754 --> 00:31:40.222 Gleny, I see your hand; how would you 00:31:40.222 --> 00:31:42.422 like to add to the discussion? 00:31:42.422 --> 00:31:44.476 (Gleny) As a therapist, I had been working 00:31:44.476 --> 00:31:46.925 with a client at a residential 00:31:46.925 --> 00:31:49.242 depression/anxiety recovery program, 00:31:49.242 --> 00:31:51.546 and he was so blown away, 00:31:51.546 --> 00:31:53.467 but also simultaneously confused 00:31:53.467 --> 00:31:55.040 with the compassion and love 00:31:55.040 --> 00:31:56.879 he was experiencing around him. 00:31:56.879 --> 00:31:59.006 I remember he mentioned that he 00:31:59.006 --> 00:32:01.344 doesn't want to be like the people. 00:32:01.344 --> 00:32:03.357 He knew who would get so rigid 00:32:03.357 --> 00:32:05.082 and dictatorial when they would read 00:32:05.082 --> 00:32:07.294 the Word and understand God, and he said, 00:32:07.294 --> 00:32:09.547 "I just don't want to be like that." 00:32:09.547 --> 00:32:12.383 And I asked him, like, there are many 00:32:12.383 --> 00:32:13.864 of us who understand and read 00:32:13.864 --> 00:32:15.032 the Word of God; do you 00:32:15.032 --> 00:32:17.364 think that we are the same? 00:32:17.364 --> 00:32:19.509 And he said, "Oh, wait, that's right. 00:32:19.509 --> 00:32:22.246 You guys are some of the first people 00:32:22.246 --> 00:32:24.763 I've met who had a different response, 00:32:24.763 --> 00:32:27.469 actually a very positive response 00:32:27.469 --> 00:32:30.091 after intentionally learning about God." 00:32:30.091 --> 00:32:32.362 So, by their fruits, you shall know them. 00:32:32.362 --> 00:32:34.849 And he was drawn to God by the way 00:32:34.849 --> 00:32:36.692 we were working with him. 00:32:36.692 --> 00:32:38.336 (Derek) So, we're hearing a theme. 00:32:38.336 --> 00:32:39.556 Thank you so much, Gleny. 00:32:39.556 --> 00:32:41.283 We're hearing a theme that, with all 00:32:41.283 --> 00:32:42.050 of the confusion 00:32:42.050 --> 00:32:43.712 about the character of God 00:32:43.712 --> 00:32:46.663 that followers of God, you said, 00:32:46.663 --> 00:32:49.045 could actually be part of the problem. 00:32:49.045 --> 00:32:51.091 We could even have false teachers 00:32:51.091 --> 00:32:53.381 who are religious teachers, right, 00:32:53.381 --> 00:32:55.632 who give a confused picture of God. 00:32:55.632 --> 00:32:59.008 Or we can be a living example of that. Travis. 00:32:59.008 --> 00:33:00.581 (Travis) Derek, one of the things 00:33:00.581 --> 00:33:01.978 that I've learned about being 00:33:01.978 --> 00:33:03.573 a powerful witness for Jesus 00:33:03.573 --> 00:33:05.991 is in Acts, chapter 1, verse 8, 00:33:05.991 --> 00:33:07.987 It says, "You will receive power 00:33:07.987 --> 00:33:09.912 to be my witnesses." 00:33:09.912 --> 00:33:12.253 And we're not that smart, 00:33:12.253 --> 00:33:14.362 and God will give us the power 00:33:14.362 --> 00:33:17.697 to be appropriate witnesses of the gospel. 00:33:17.697 --> 00:33:19.372 (Derek) So there is a revelation. 00:33:19.372 --> 00:33:21.404 I see Sophia, and then, Tricia Lee, 00:33:21.404 --> 00:33:22.761 I see your hand. 00:33:22.761 --> 00:33:24.150 (Sophia) Just the distortion 00:33:24.150 --> 00:33:25.482 of the character reminded me 00:33:25.482 --> 00:33:29.267 of the Puritans in 1600s America. 00:33:29.267 --> 00:33:31.865 They came to America to escape 00:33:31.865 --> 00:33:33.094 religious persecution, 00:33:33.094 --> 00:33:35.309 and right after they made their colony, 00:33:35.309 --> 00:33:36.431 they began to persecute 00:33:36.431 --> 00:33:37.812 everyone around them 00:33:37.812 --> 00:33:40.042 because of their strict religious standards. 00:33:40.042 --> 00:33:41.654 (Derek) To be fair, we might say 00:33:41.654 --> 00:33:43.199 some of them began to persecute 00:33:43.199 --> 00:33:44.978 those around them because there were 00:33:44.978 --> 00:33:46.667 probably some who really did reveal 00:33:46.667 --> 00:33:47.998 the love of God, right? 00:33:47.998 --> 00:33:51.317 But it's easy for us to fall into that, 00:33:51.317 --> 00:33:54.823 that we don't reflect 00:33:54.823 --> 00:33:56.354 the immeasurable, unfailing love 00:33:56.354 --> 00:33:58.212 of God. Tricia Lee? 00:33:58.212 --> 00:33:59.760 (Tricia Lee) There's a Scripture 00:33:59.760 --> 00:34:02.240 I'd like to share in Jeremiah, 00:34:02.240 --> 00:34:08.094 chapter 32, verses 38 through 40. 00:34:08.094 --> 00:34:10.458 (Derek) What translation are you reading from,? 00:34:10.458 --> 00:34:11.657 (Tricia Lee) I'm reading 00:34:11.657 --> 00:34:16.595 from the New King James Version, and it reads: 00:34:50.093 --> 00:34:52.608 And "fear" being that loving respect. 00:34:52.608 --> 00:34:54.418 I love this Scripture because it 00:34:54.418 --> 00:34:57.619 reminds me of this idea of a covenant, 00:34:57.619 --> 00:34:59.690 and that that is what God's love is. 00:34:59.690 --> 00:35:02.213 And repeatedly in this passage He says, 00:35:02.213 --> 00:35:05.926 "I will, I will, I will." 00:35:05.926 --> 00:35:08.012 So often in our human experience, 00:35:08.012 --> 00:35:10.245 love is like a transaction, 00:35:10.245 --> 00:35:12.395 "I'll do this if you do that." 00:35:12.395 --> 00:35:13.476 "If you do this, 00:35:13.476 --> 00:35:15.234 then I'll always do this." 00:35:15.234 --> 00:35:17.436 But God's everlasting love 00:35:17.436 --> 00:35:19.331 is a covenant to us, 00:35:19.331 --> 00:35:21.726 that, no matter what we do, 00:35:21.726 --> 00:35:24.566 He will never stop loving us, 00:35:24.566 --> 00:35:26.442 and that He has committed 00:35:26.442 --> 00:35:28.141 to what He will do. 00:35:28.141 --> 00:35:30.022 And so, there are times where there are 00:35:30.022 --> 00:35:32.047 conditional promises and things like that, 00:35:32.047 --> 00:35:34.860 but His love is everlasting, and it's 00:35:34.860 --> 00:35:36.290 always a promise 00:35:36.290 --> 00:35:39.038 of "I will, I will, I will." 00:35:39.038 --> 00:35:41.104 And I think that's very different 00:35:41.104 --> 00:35:43.412 than how we treat each other. 00:35:43.412 --> 00:35:45.637 You know, you don't hear someone 00:35:45.637 --> 00:35:47.364 in a marriage ceremony saying, 00:35:47.364 --> 00:35:48.650 "I will do these things 00:35:48.650 --> 00:35:50.274 only if you do that." 00:35:50.274 --> 00:35:51.546 You always state your vows 00:35:51.546 --> 00:35:52.942 as what you're committing 00:35:52.942 --> 00:35:55.143 to that person, and in a way, 00:35:55.143 --> 00:35:56.479 this everlasting covenant is 00:35:56.479 --> 00:35:58.028 how God has committed 00:35:58.028 --> 00:36:02.457 His unfailing, immeasurable love to us. 00:36:02.457 --> 00:36:03.302 (Derek) Thank you 00:36:03.302 --> 00:36:05.175 so much for sharing that. 00:36:05.175 --> 00:36:06.736 There was a word that Tricia Lee 00:36:06.736 --> 00:36:08.382 was repeating over and over again 00:36:08.382 --> 00:36:09.920 that leads us into the next part 00:36:09.920 --> 00:36:11.676 of our study, and that is 00:36:11.676 --> 00:36:13.771 the everlasting love of God. 00:36:13.771 --> 00:36:15.400 And I'd like someone to read 00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:19.809 John 17 and verse 24. 00:36:19.809 --> 00:36:22.749 John 17, Faith, do you have that? 00:36:22.749 --> 00:36:25.650 John 17 and verse 24? 00:36:25.650 --> 00:36:28.274 Let's see what testimony Jesus gave 00:36:28.274 --> 00:36:30.797 regarding the everlasting love of God. 00:36:30.797 --> 00:36:32.126 (Faith) And I'll be reading 00:36:32.126 --> 00:36:33.660 from the New King James Version, 00:36:33.660 --> 00:36:36.549 John 17, verse 24: 00:36:51.878 --> 00:36:54.250 (Derek) Alright, so there's a revelation. 00:36:54.250 --> 00:36:55.418 You say, "Oh, no, that's 00:36:55.418 --> 00:36:59.549 just that the Father loved His Son 00:36:59.549 --> 00:37:01.511 before the foundation of the world." 00:37:01.511 --> 00:37:04.131 What evidence do you find, anybody, 00:37:04.131 --> 00:37:08.365 in the Scriptures that God's love for us 00:37:08.365 --> 00:37:10.590 is also everlasting? 00:37:10.590 --> 00:37:13.958 It's not bound by time, you know, 00:37:13.958 --> 00:37:15.310 kind of like a time clock, 00:37:15.310 --> 00:37:18.050 "You've got three years left," right, 00:37:18.050 --> 00:37:21.428 or three mistakes left, or something, 00:37:21.428 --> 00:37:22.996 but that it's everlasting. 00:37:22.996 --> 00:37:25.458 Jesus said, "The Father has loved Me 00:37:25.458 --> 00:37:27.471 since before the foundation of the world." 00:37:27.471 --> 00:37:31.468 Anybody think of a Bible text? Yes, Samantha. 00:37:31.468 --> 00:37:32.711 (Samantha) Well, I thought 00:37:32.711 --> 00:37:35.943 of Romans 8, verses 38 and 39. 00:37:35.943 --> 00:37:36.977 (Derek) Okay, give us 00:37:36.977 --> 00:37:38.263 a moment to find that. 00:37:38.263 --> 00:37:40.575 Romans, chapter 8? 00:37:40.575 --> 00:37:42.871 (Samantha) Verses 38 and 39. 00:37:42.871 --> 00:37:44.427 (Derek) And the letter 00:37:44.427 --> 00:37:47.335 to the Romans was written by? 00:37:47.335 --> 00:37:49.986 Anybody? The Apostle Paul, that's right. 00:37:49.986 --> 00:37:51.290 So, these are to Christians 00:37:51.290 --> 00:37:53.380 living in Rome, and you're reading 00:37:53.380 --> 00:37:55.145 verses 38 and 39. 00:37:55.145 --> 00:37:57.406 (Samantha) Yes, from the New King James Version. 00:37:57.406 --> 00:37:58.485 (Derek) How does...? 00:37:58.485 --> 00:37:59.414 (Samantha) It says: 00:38:24.153 --> 00:38:26.059 (Derek) Somebody excited about that? 00:38:26.059 --> 00:38:27.791 That's pretty amazing, isn't it? 00:38:27.791 --> 00:38:30.120 Nothing can separate us. Puia. 00:38:30.120 --> 00:38:32.788 (Puia) So, back to John 17:24 00:38:32.788 --> 00:38:34.787 that we read earlier, what I see here 00:38:34.787 --> 00:38:38.070 is that before creating the world, 00:38:38.070 --> 00:38:40.704 God had already enjoyed 00:38:40.704 --> 00:38:43.198 being in a relationship of love. 00:38:43.198 --> 00:38:44.431 So, in a sense, God 00:38:44.431 --> 00:38:46.246 didn't need to create us. 00:38:46.246 --> 00:38:51.330 He didn't owe us this existence, nor love. 00:38:51.330 --> 00:38:54.833 So this idea of God loving us freely, 00:38:54.833 --> 00:38:59.360 voluntarily, is all an act of sacrifice 00:38:59.360 --> 00:39:03.613 in a way, and we don't deserve 00:39:03.613 --> 00:39:06.681 this level of love from God. 00:39:06.681 --> 00:39:10.833 (Derek) But it's who God is, right? 00:39:10.833 --> 00:39:13.617 Isn't there a text that says, "God is..."? 00:39:13.617 --> 00:39:16.486 (Derek, Team) "...love." 00:39:16.486 --> 00:39:18.029 (Derek) He doesn't just love, 00:39:18.029 --> 00:39:20.916 He does love, but He loves because it's... 00:39:20.916 --> 00:39:21.891 (Puia) His nature. 00:39:21.891 --> 00:39:23.036 (Derek) The very essence 00:39:23.036 --> 00:39:24.087 of who He is. Harold? 00:39:24.087 --> 00:39:25.587 (Harold) I was going to read... 00:39:25.587 --> 00:39:26.617 (Derek) Yes... 00:39:26.617 --> 00:39:30.115 (Harold) It's in Lamentations, chapter 3. 00:39:30.115 --> 00:39:31.753 (Derek) Lamentations doesn't sound 00:39:31.753 --> 00:39:34.234 like a very happy book, does it? 00:39:34.234 --> 00:39:36.746 But the prophet Jeremiah has 00:39:36.746 --> 00:39:38.530 a beautiful promise there. 00:39:38.530 --> 00:39:40.952 Lamentations, chapter 3 and verses? 00:39:40.952 --> 00:39:42.578 (Harold) 22 to 24. 00:39:42.578 --> 00:39:44.189 (Derek) 22 to 24, my wife 00:39:44.189 --> 00:39:46.912 likes to sing this, so how does that read? 00:39:46.912 --> 00:39:48.402 What translation are you...? 00:39:48.402 --> 00:39:49.568 (Harold) I'll be reading 00:39:49.568 --> 00:39:52.623 from the English Standard Version, and it reads: 00:40:12.548 --> 00:40:13.964 (Derek) Beautiful, that's one 00:40:13.964 --> 00:40:15.639 of my favorite verses, by the way. 00:40:15.639 --> 00:40:18.475 And by the way, the context of that 00:40:18.475 --> 00:40:20.647 is not that everything is going perfectly. 00:40:20.647 --> 00:40:22.055 What's just happened? 00:40:22.055 --> 00:40:24.401 (Harold) The Israelites were under captivity. 00:40:24.401 --> 00:40:26.658 (Derek) They had just been taken into captivity. 00:40:26.658 --> 00:40:27.668 (Harold) To Babylon. 00:40:27.668 --> 00:40:29.504 (Derek) That's right, Daniel, Ezekiel, 00:40:29.504 --> 00:40:31.459 and all those prophets are there. 00:40:31.459 --> 00:40:33.284 Jeremiah is left in Jerusalem. 00:40:33.284 --> 00:40:39.143 It's been ransacked, and he's lamenting. 00:40:39.143 --> 00:40:41.257 But he says, "Through the Lord's mercies," 00:40:41.257 --> 00:40:42.914 I'm quoting the New King James, 00:40:42.914 --> 00:40:45.215 "we are not consumed, 00:40:45.215 --> 00:40:47.113 because His compassions fail not." 00:40:47.113 --> 00:40:48.126 Thank you for sharing 00:40:48.126 --> 00:40:49.667 that text, beautiful. Yes, Don. 00:40:49.667 --> 00:40:52.575 (Don) Another unfailing love from God, 00:40:52.575 --> 00:40:55.891 if you'll allow me to read Isaiah 54? 00:40:55.891 --> 00:40:58.158 (Derek) Give us a chance to find it. 00:40:58.158 --> 00:40:59.018 (Don) I'm reading 00:40:59.018 --> 00:41:00.259 from the New King James. 00:41:00.259 --> 00:41:01.958 (Derek) Hold on just a minute then, 00:41:01.958 --> 00:41:05.466 "Eye-ZAY-ah" or "Eye-ZY-uh," chapter 54. 00:41:05.466 --> 00:41:06.535 (Don) Verse 10. 00:41:06.535 --> 00:41:07.706 (Derek) And verse 10, 00:41:07.706 --> 00:41:09.538 and what translation? 00:41:09.538 --> 00:41:10.540 (Don) New King James. 00:41:10.540 --> 00:41:11.732 (Derek) New King James, 00:41:11.732 --> 00:41:14.183 "Eye-ZAY-ah" or "Eye-ZY-uh," 54:10. 00:41:14.183 --> 00:41:15.328 (Don) And it says: 00:41:32.905 --> 00:41:34.497 (Derek) We could find many texts, 00:41:34.497 --> 00:41:37.505 I'm sure, in the Scripture that speak 00:41:37.505 --> 00:41:40.596 about the everlasting love of God, 00:41:40.596 --> 00:41:43.717 but one of the reasons 00:41:43.717 --> 00:41:46.955 that people struggle is because they've 00:41:46.955 --> 00:41:48.324 been in a relationship 00:41:48.324 --> 00:41:50.777 where love has failed. 00:41:50.777 --> 00:41:52.417 And they go, "Well, maybe God's 00:41:52.417 --> 00:41:53.494 just like that, too." 00:41:53.494 --> 00:41:55.096 "I thought it was 00:41:55.096 --> 00:41:58.632 a loving, safe environment." 00:41:58.632 --> 00:42:01.175 It may be a family member left, 00:42:01.175 --> 00:42:03.004 like a parent or a spouse 00:42:03.004 --> 00:42:05.198 or a close relationship, 00:42:05.198 --> 00:42:07.772 and it's like it's hard for us 00:42:07.772 --> 00:42:09.563 not to think, "Well, maybe God 00:42:09.563 --> 00:42:11.310 is that way, too." 00:42:11.310 --> 00:42:14.750 Anybody have an experience like that, 00:42:14.750 --> 00:42:21.558 yeah, challenged that, but somehow God 00:42:21.558 --> 00:42:23.473 made a clear picture that He 00:42:23.473 --> 00:42:26.931 would not abandon you that way? 00:42:26.931 --> 00:42:30.396 I don't know if anyone can relate to that. 00:42:30.396 --> 00:42:33.575 I see a couple of reticent hands going up. 00:42:33.575 --> 00:42:35.336 That's a tough question, isn't it, 00:42:35.336 --> 00:42:37.159 but could you see how that could... 00:42:37.159 --> 00:42:40.283 You know, daddy leaves, and it's like, 00:42:40.283 --> 00:42:41.859 "Well, maybe my heavenly Father 00:42:41.859 --> 00:42:44.071 is like that, too; maybe some day 00:42:44.071 --> 00:42:47.021 He will just stop being there," right? 00:42:47.021 --> 00:42:48.895 It's very real, isn't it? Harold? 00:42:48.895 --> 00:42:51.797 (Harold) Well, my father, it got 00:42:51.797 --> 00:42:53.019 to a point that I stopped 00:42:53.019 --> 00:42:55.120 calling him father. 00:42:55.120 --> 00:42:56.831 He was a very angry person. 00:42:56.831 --> 00:42:58.595 He was a womanizer. 00:42:58.595 --> 00:42:59.753 We would go to the park, 00:42:59.753 --> 00:43:01.379 and he will tell me, "This will be 00:43:01.379 --> 00:43:04.720 your new mom," and I'm like, "Excuse me?" 00:43:04.720 --> 00:43:12.947 And I barely saw him, so... 00:43:12.947 --> 00:43:15.242 (Derek) It's hard. 00:43:15.242 --> 00:43:17.992 (Harold) It did hurt because I 00:43:17.992 --> 00:43:21.603 always wanted a father, and I want 00:43:21.603 --> 00:43:27.393 to be there for my daughter, too. 00:43:27.393 --> 00:43:29.994 Not to mention the family was not good 00:43:29.994 --> 00:43:33.939 because my mom also had her problems 00:43:33.939 --> 00:43:37.827 growing up, so I did feel alone, 00:43:37.827 --> 00:43:42.048 so, oh, I'm sorry. 00:43:42.048 --> 00:43:47.023 (James) It's alright, it's alright. Tell your story. 00:43:47.023 --> 00:43:49.225 (Harold) I did feel alone. 00:43:49.225 --> 00:43:53.357 I didn't have the family that I wanted 00:43:53.357 --> 00:43:56.283 because I didn't have birthdays... 00:43:56.283 --> 00:43:59.899 Like, I got very indifferent about things 00:43:59.899 --> 00:44:03.647 that people do as a family. 00:44:03.647 --> 00:44:06.090 So, I just tried to protect myself 00:44:06.090 --> 00:44:07.962 by trying to be indifferent 00:44:07.962 --> 00:44:12.331 to these things so I could move on in life 00:44:12.331 --> 00:44:14.452 because it's like, you know what, I cannot 00:44:14.452 --> 00:44:16.964 allow these things to control me 00:44:16.964 --> 00:44:19.279 or to dictate how I should live. 00:44:19.279 --> 00:44:20.877 I need to do something. 00:44:20.877 --> 00:44:23.898 So I do thank God that He did put people 00:44:23.898 --> 00:44:26.550 along the way that started painting 00:44:26.550 --> 00:44:29.767 this picture of God and trying to show me 00:44:29.767 --> 00:44:31.625 who God really is. 00:44:31.625 --> 00:44:33.119 And thankfully my mom, 00:44:33.119 --> 00:44:34.612 even with her problems, she did 00:44:34.612 --> 00:44:35.802 introduce me to the Bible 00:44:35.802 --> 00:44:37.686 at a very young age. 00:44:37.686 --> 00:44:40.371 So, I started reading and trying 00:44:40.371 --> 00:44:43.228 to understand God from that angle. 00:44:43.228 --> 00:44:46.755 So, then eventually, of course, I said, 00:44:46.755 --> 00:44:48.636 like my friend from Rochester, 00:44:48.636 --> 00:44:51.290 she eventually painted this bigger picture 00:44:51.290 --> 00:44:53.230 of God to help me, like, "Oh, wow, 00:44:53.230 --> 00:44:55.481 this is who God truly is; 00:44:55.481 --> 00:44:56.985 I can call You my Father 00:44:56.985 --> 00:44:59.173 because I always wanted a father, 00:44:59.173 --> 00:45:01.070 but You are my Father that has been..." 00:45:01.070 --> 00:45:03.018 Even though I did suffer, it was painful. 00:45:03.018 --> 00:45:05.850 I did go through experiences that you 00:45:05.850 --> 00:45:07.420 would think like, "Why would You 00:45:07.420 --> 00:45:08.364 allow that, God?" 00:45:08.364 --> 00:45:10.748 I mean it was done to me personally. 00:45:10.748 --> 00:45:12.408 I mean, I cannot share 00:45:12.408 --> 00:45:15.840 because of probably younger children, 00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:18.686 but it's like, sure, I did 00:45:18.686 --> 00:45:20.630 go through this experience, but I 00:45:20.630 --> 00:45:22.087 cannot blame God because I am 00:45:22.087 --> 00:45:23.408 in a broken world. 00:45:23.408 --> 00:45:24.825 There are so many distortions 00:45:24.825 --> 00:45:28.125 of God in the world, but yet we are 00:45:28.125 --> 00:45:30.065 accountable for these things. 00:45:30.065 --> 00:45:31.709 We are accountable, and we need 00:45:31.709 --> 00:45:33.049 to take responsibility. 00:45:33.049 --> 00:45:35.657 I cannot always put the blame on God. 00:45:35.657 --> 00:45:37.693 But at the end of the day, I do praise God 00:45:37.693 --> 00:45:44.012 that I was able to find a loving wife, 00:45:44.012 --> 00:45:46.787 my family, and I don't want 00:45:46.787 --> 00:45:51.331 to live like that; I really hated it. 00:45:51.331 --> 00:45:53.875 I just want to be there for Sophia. 00:45:53.875 --> 00:45:57.091 I want to give her a good representation 00:45:57.091 --> 00:46:00.414 of who God really is. 00:46:00.414 --> 00:46:02.722 (Derek) That's beautiful, Harold. 00:46:02.722 --> 00:46:05.045 For those of you who don't know, 00:46:05.045 --> 00:46:06.946 Brittany, who is one of our team members 00:46:06.946 --> 00:46:08.531 and actually will be teaching one 00:46:08.531 --> 00:46:10.934 in this series, but Brittany and Harold 00:46:10.934 --> 00:46:12.820 just had a beautiful little girl. 00:46:12.820 --> 00:46:15.004 And the name Sophia was mentioned, 00:46:15.004 --> 00:46:18.315 so I can repeat it publicly. 00:46:18.315 --> 00:46:22.278 And I'm really blessed 00:46:22.278 --> 00:46:25.222 by what Harold just shared, and that is, 00:46:25.222 --> 00:46:28.267 "I want my little girl to see 00:46:28.267 --> 00:46:30.132 a true representation of the character 00:46:30.132 --> 00:46:32.577 of our loving heavenly Father," right? 00:46:32.577 --> 00:46:33.316 (Harold) Amen. 00:46:33.316 --> 00:46:35.287 (Derek) And whether we're a parent 00:46:35.287 --> 00:46:39.462 or a friend, right, or a child 00:46:39.462 --> 00:46:41.505 to a parent, we want to be 00:46:41.505 --> 00:46:43.338 a living representation 00:46:43.338 --> 00:46:44.897 of what the loving character 00:46:44.897 --> 00:46:47.760 of God looks like. 00:46:47.760 --> 00:46:50.495 Whew, that's pretty intense, 00:46:50.495 --> 00:46:52.645 but I need to move us on 00:46:52.645 --> 00:46:54.547 to the last section, 00:46:54.547 --> 00:46:58.559 because let's start again: 00:46:58.559 --> 00:47:00.532 How many people does God love? 00:47:00.532 --> 00:47:01.542 (Team) Everybody. 00:47:01.542 --> 00:47:03.953 (Derek) He loves everyone, 00:47:03.953 --> 00:47:07.150 but somehow we have a choice to make 00:47:07.150 --> 00:47:08.970 whether we will accept 00:47:08.970 --> 00:47:10.352 that intimate relationship 00:47:10.352 --> 00:47:13.629 that we studied about. 00:47:13.629 --> 00:47:16.406 Let's go to a story that Jesus told 00:47:16.406 --> 00:47:21.799 in Matthew 24, verses 1 to 14, 00:47:21.799 --> 00:47:26.488 Matthew 22, excuse me, verses 1 to 14, 00:47:26.488 --> 00:47:29.388 and let's look; Kylynda, maybe you 00:47:29.388 --> 00:47:31.418 could read it for us. 00:47:31.418 --> 00:47:32.991 You say, "What has this got to do 00:47:32.991 --> 00:47:34.213 with the love of God?" 00:47:34.213 --> 00:47:38.027 Well, let's listen, because apparently, 00:47:38.027 --> 00:47:40.492 lots of people are invited to a banquet. 00:47:40.492 --> 00:47:41.698 So, how does this story 00:47:41.698 --> 00:47:43.127 read in your Bible? 00:47:43.127 --> 00:47:44.425 (Kylynda) I will be reading 00:47:44.425 --> 00:47:46.219 from the New Living Translation: 00:49:23.069 --> 00:49:26.363 (Derek) Wow, that's a pretty intense story. 00:49:26.363 --> 00:49:28.893 Why would the king, if he said, 00:49:28.893 --> 00:49:31.359 "Go find any," both good and? 00:49:31.359 --> 00:49:32.591 (Team) Bad. 00:49:32.591 --> 00:49:35.017 (Derek) So that would include us, right? Praise God. 00:49:35.017 --> 00:49:36.562 Don't tell me which one you are, 00:49:36.562 --> 00:49:37.571 but we're all saved 00:49:37.571 --> 00:49:39.459 by the grace of God, right? 00:49:39.459 --> 00:49:41.290 We're saved by the grace of God. 00:49:41.290 --> 00:49:43.162 Why would the king be upset 00:49:43.162 --> 00:49:44.714 if one person didn't have 00:49:44.714 --> 00:49:46.828 a wedding garment on? 00:49:46.828 --> 00:49:49.828 The only logical conclusion is? 00:49:49.828 --> 00:49:50.954 (Sophia) He needed one. 00:49:50.954 --> 00:49:52.820 (Derek) Well, he obviously needed one. 00:49:52.820 --> 00:49:57.765 (Don) He needed to be really genuine or to fully accept the invitation. 00:49:57.765 --> 00:50:01.370 (Derek) Who provided the wedding garment? 00:50:01.370 --> 00:50:03.281 (Travis) He was unwilling to put it on. 00:50:03.281 --> 00:50:04.465 (Derek) He was unwilling 00:50:04.465 --> 00:50:06.632 to put on a wedding garment 00:50:06.632 --> 00:50:09.957 that was provided! 00:50:09.957 --> 00:50:12.094 If he had said, "Well, I didn't have one. 00:50:12.094 --> 00:50:13.276 Nobody gave it; I stood 00:50:13.276 --> 00:50:14.638 in the wrong line." 00:50:14.638 --> 00:50:20.668 He's speechless because he's without excuse. 00:50:20.668 --> 00:50:23.064 He's without excuse. 00:50:23.064 --> 00:50:27.301 The wedding garment, that righteousness 00:50:27.301 --> 00:50:31.451 which covers us, is a gift of God's grace. 00:50:31.451 --> 00:50:35.252 To show up thinking we're okay without it 00:50:35.252 --> 00:50:37.844 is a fatal mistake, right? 00:50:37.844 --> 00:50:40.041 So, what does this last verse mean 00:50:40.041 --> 00:50:43.186 in the story that Kylynda read? 00:50:43.186 --> 00:50:48.911 "Many are called, but few are chosen"? 00:50:48.911 --> 00:50:51.341 How many is the many who are called? Puia? 00:50:51.341 --> 00:50:52.363 (Puia) All. 00:50:52.363 --> 00:50:54.282 (Derek) It's everybody; how do you know? 00:50:54.282 --> 00:50:55.705 (Harold) Good and bad were... 00:50:55.705 --> 00:50:57.252 (Derek) Good and bad, everybody. 00:50:57.252 --> 00:50:59.031 Everybody is called. 00:50:59.031 --> 00:51:00.490 So, what does it mean? 00:51:00.490 --> 00:51:03.113 "Many are called, but..."? 00:51:03.113 --> 00:51:06.151 What does it mean, "Few are chosen"? 00:51:06.151 --> 00:51:08.301 (Samantha) Only those who accept 00:51:08.301 --> 00:51:10.310 that invitation and decide 00:51:10.310 --> 00:51:12.721 to receive God's grace will be able 00:51:12.721 --> 00:51:15.102 to enter into the Kingdom, will be chosen to enter. 00:51:15.102 --> 00:51:16.871 (Derek) ...sounds like poor English, 00:51:16.871 --> 00:51:21.379 but those who choose to be chosen, right? 00:51:21.379 --> 00:51:24.430 Who wants to be chosen? Right? 00:51:24.430 --> 00:51:26.400 Everyone is given the invitation. 00:51:26.400 --> 00:51:28.990 The garment is provided. 00:51:28.990 --> 00:51:30.303 Some people don't even want 00:51:30.303 --> 00:51:32.300 to come, right? 00:51:32.300 --> 00:51:33.644 In fact, most of the people 00:51:33.644 --> 00:51:36.768 don't want to come. 00:51:36.768 --> 00:51:39.440 But then some show up 00:51:39.440 --> 00:51:42.479 without putting on the garment. 00:51:42.479 --> 00:51:44.248 We have a choice to make. Travis? 00:51:44.248 --> 00:51:45.632 (Travis) Interestingly, Jesus 00:51:45.632 --> 00:51:46.831 starts out the beatitudes 00:51:46.831 --> 00:51:48.403 in Matthew, chapter 5, verse 3, 00:51:48.403 --> 00:51:49.657 [by saying], "Blessed are 00:51:49.657 --> 00:51:51.502 the poor in spirit," those who realize 00:51:51.502 --> 00:51:54.243 their brokenness, "for theirs is 00:51:54.243 --> 00:51:55.358 the Kingdom of Heaven." 00:51:55.358 --> 00:51:56.357 (Derek) Praise God. 00:51:56.357 --> 00:51:57.709 So, I'm going to have you do 00:51:57.709 --> 00:51:59.213 a little computer scan. 00:51:59.213 --> 00:52:01.068 I want our remotes to be engaged here, 00:52:01.068 --> 00:52:03.361 I'm going to ask you to be involved in that. 00:52:03.361 --> 00:52:05.560 Can you think of someone 00:52:05.560 --> 00:52:08.883 who received an unexpected invitation 00:52:08.883 --> 00:52:10.314 to be part of the banquet - 00:52:10.314 --> 00:52:11.371 which means to be part 00:52:11.371 --> 00:52:13.624 of God's eternal kingdom, and experience 00:52:13.624 --> 00:52:16.873 His immeasurable, unfailing love forever - 00:52:16.873 --> 00:52:18.130 someone who received 00:52:18.130 --> 00:52:22.120 an unexpected invitation and accepted it?! 00:52:22.120 --> 00:52:25.695 Someone share a story with me, 00:52:25.695 --> 00:52:27.045 unexpected invitation 00:52:27.045 --> 00:52:29.924 and accepted it. Yes, Puia. 00:52:29.924 --> 00:52:31.570 (Puia) It reminds me of Zacchaeus. 00:52:31.570 --> 00:52:32.838 (Derek) Okay, Zacchaeus, 00:52:32.838 --> 00:52:34.487 you don't need to read the story, 00:52:34.487 --> 00:52:36.078 but tell us; Zacchaeus was a...? 00:52:36.078 --> 00:52:37.138 (Puia) Tax collector. 00:52:37.138 --> 00:52:38.141 (Derek) Very wealthy. 00:52:38.141 --> 00:52:40.141 (Puia) And he probably didn't expect Jesus 00:52:40.141 --> 00:52:43.171 to even know his name or invite him, 00:52:43.171 --> 00:52:45.490 or, you know, dine with him. 00:52:45.490 --> 00:52:48.094 That story just came into my mind. 00:52:48.094 --> 00:52:50.981 (Derek) So, Luke 19, great story, 00:52:50.981 --> 00:52:52.935 "I'm going to eat at your house today, 00:52:52.935 --> 00:52:54.633 but more than that, salvation comes 00:52:54.633 --> 00:52:58.341 to this house today," right, amazing story. 00:52:58.341 --> 00:53:00.949 Someone else, an unexpected invitation. 00:53:00.949 --> 00:53:04.608 I see Tricia Lee's hand raised. Tricia Lee? 00:53:04.608 --> 00:53:05.828 (Tricia Lee) Yes, I think 00:53:05.828 --> 00:53:07.518 about the thief on the cross. 00:53:07.518 --> 00:53:10.294 He is guilty, and he is in the midst 00:53:10.294 --> 00:53:13.747 of being punished for his crime or crimes, 00:53:13.747 --> 00:53:16.823 and God extends salvation to him. 00:53:16.823 --> 00:53:19.394 He has no chance to come down and live 00:53:19.394 --> 00:53:22.104 a reformed life or do good things. 00:53:22.104 --> 00:53:24.498 It is simply the faith, grace, and mercy 00:53:24.498 --> 00:53:26.851 of God because we believe and know 00:53:26.851 --> 00:53:30.793 that He is saved still hanging on that cross. 00:53:30.793 --> 00:53:32.231 (Derek) Beautiful. Wow, that's 00:53:32.231 --> 00:53:33.745 an amazing one. 00:53:33.745 --> 00:53:35.793 I see Gleny's hand raised, too. 00:53:35.793 --> 00:53:37.901 Gleny, somebody else that received 00:53:37.901 --> 00:53:40.546 an unexpected invitation to be part 00:53:40.546 --> 00:53:43.701 of this banquet which symbolizes 00:53:43.701 --> 00:53:45.917 the Kingdom and said, "Yes!" 00:53:45.917 --> 00:53:47.861 (Gleny) There's Matthew, who was 00:53:47.861 --> 00:53:51.987 a very bad candidate for being a disciple 00:53:51.987 --> 00:53:53.691 of Christ's because he was hated 00:53:53.691 --> 00:53:55.659 as a tax collector, but he accepted 00:53:55.659 --> 00:53:57.369 the invitation to follow Christ. 00:53:57.369 --> 00:53:58.980 (Derek) Yeah, I hope that Matthew 00:53:58.980 --> 00:54:00.776 and Zacchaeus got to be good friends, 00:54:00.776 --> 00:54:02.994 you know, both tax collectors. Sophia. 00:54:02.994 --> 00:54:03.775 (Sophia) Paul. 00:54:03.775 --> 00:54:06.973 (Derek) Saul of Tarsus, what was he doing 00:54:06.973 --> 00:54:09.060 before he accepted the invitation? 00:54:09.060 --> 00:54:11.226 (Sophia) Persecuting Christians, killing them. 00:54:11.226 --> 00:54:12.707 (Derek) Persecuting Christians! 00:54:12.707 --> 00:54:15.806 Killing people, forcing them to blaspheme 00:54:15.806 --> 00:54:17.744 the name of Jesus! 00:54:17.744 --> 00:54:19.118 And he gets an invitation. 00:54:19.118 --> 00:54:21.556 Where was he when he got the invitation? 00:54:21.556 --> 00:54:23.410 On the Damascus road, and when he 00:54:23.410 --> 00:54:25.911 got to Damascus, he gets the invitation, 00:54:25.911 --> 00:54:28.567 and he says, "Yes." 00:54:28.567 --> 00:54:29.803 Now, tragically, I wish we 00:54:29.803 --> 00:54:30.869 could just end there, 00:54:30.869 --> 00:54:32.324 but remember there's a choice. 00:54:32.324 --> 00:54:33.725 So, someone, you're watching, 00:54:33.725 --> 00:54:35.456 and you're going, "But you're saying 00:54:35.456 --> 00:54:36.415 people could say no. 00:54:36.415 --> 00:54:37.905 Maybe everybody will be saved." 00:54:37.905 --> 00:54:39.725 Can you think of someone who received 00:54:39.725 --> 00:54:43.365 a surprise invitation and said no? 00:54:43.365 --> 00:54:44.973 (Samantha) The rich young ruler. 00:54:44.973 --> 00:54:46.668 (Derek) Alright, Samantha mentioned 00:54:46.668 --> 00:54:49.172 the rich young ruler who Jesus says, 00:54:49.172 --> 00:54:51.632 "Get rid of the stuff 00:54:51.632 --> 00:54:55.084 that's getting in the way and follow Me," 00:54:55.084 --> 00:54:57.097 and he walked away. 00:54:57.097 --> 00:54:59.267 Anybody else? Yes, Harold. 00:54:59.267 --> 00:55:01.507 (Harold) Judas Iscariot, unfortunately. 00:55:01.507 --> 00:55:02.618 (Derek) After being one 00:55:02.618 --> 00:55:05.202 of the close team members of Jesus, 00:55:05.202 --> 00:55:11.886 Judas Iscariot rejected the invitation. 00:55:11.886 --> 00:55:12.605 And, of course, 00:55:12.605 --> 00:55:17.010 there's a shocking realization 00:55:17.010 --> 00:55:18.480 that when we walk away 00:55:18.480 --> 00:55:20.546 from the love of God, 00:55:20.546 --> 00:55:25.551 there is no hope, there really isn't. 00:55:25.551 --> 00:55:29.735 And tragically, he hangs himself. 00:55:29.735 --> 00:55:31.212 But the love of God gives us 00:55:31.212 --> 00:55:34.353 a reason to live. 00:55:34.353 --> 00:55:35.899 What's the most important lesson 00:55:35.899 --> 00:55:37.543 you've learned in our study today? 00:55:37.543 --> 00:55:39.234 We've got a few seconds to wrap up. 00:55:39.234 --> 00:55:41.718 Most important lesson, anybody. Puia. 00:55:41.718 --> 00:55:43.460 (Puia) God is faithful even when we 00:55:43.460 --> 00:55:44.749 are not faithful. 00:55:44.749 --> 00:55:46.414 (Derek) But we can then choose... 00:55:46.414 --> 00:55:47.536 (Puia) To be faithful. 00:55:47.536 --> 00:55:49.905 (Derek) ...and to receive His love. Yes, Samantha. 00:55:49.905 --> 00:55:51.862 (Samantha) God's love knows no bounds. 00:55:51.862 --> 00:55:53.172 (Derek) It knows no bounds. 00:55:53.172 --> 00:55:57.732 What's its only limit? 00:55:57.732 --> 00:55:58.451 (James) Us. 00:55:58.451 --> 00:56:00.588 (Derek) Us, that's right, James. 00:56:00.588 --> 00:56:01.744 I want to appeal to you. 00:56:01.744 --> 00:56:02.993 We're starting a series 00:56:02.993 --> 00:56:05.323 on God's Love and Justice. 00:56:05.323 --> 00:56:07.957 I want to testify by the Word of God 00:56:07.957 --> 00:56:09.855 that Jesus loves you. 00:56:09.855 --> 00:56:12.402 He came to reveal the Father's love 00:56:12.402 --> 00:56:13.685 who has loved you 00:56:13.685 --> 00:56:15.697 since the foundation of the world. 00:56:15.697 --> 00:56:18.444 And He wants you to experience 00:56:18.444 --> 00:56:20.102 an intimate relationship with Him, 00:56:20.102 --> 00:56:22.365 to spend forever with Him. 00:56:22.365 --> 00:56:23.902 You say, "Derek, you don't know 00:56:23.902 --> 00:56:24.980 the things I've done." 00:56:24.980 --> 00:56:26.715 It doesn't matter what you've done; 00:56:26.715 --> 00:56:28.246 He can cleanse you, forgive you 00:56:28.246 --> 00:56:29.634 of your sin, and give you 00:56:29.634 --> 00:56:31.313 the gift of eternal life. 00:56:31.313 --> 00:56:32.422 I want to appeal to you 00:56:32.422 --> 00:56:33.667 to accept His love today. 00:56:33.667 --> 00:56:35.888 You say, "Derek, I did that long ago." 00:56:35.888 --> 00:56:37.878 Then, would you tell someone around you? 00:56:37.878 --> 00:56:40.497 Would you tell someone who needs to know 00:56:40.497 --> 00:56:43.438 really what God is like? 00:56:43.438 --> 00:56:44.407 Let's pray together. 00:56:44.407 --> 00:56:45.415 Father in Heaven, 00:56:45.415 --> 00:56:47.585 we're just starting this journey, 00:56:47.585 --> 00:56:49.597 studying about Your love and justice. 00:56:49.597 --> 00:56:52.007 And I pray that Your Holy Spirit 00:56:52.007 --> 00:56:54.417 would give supernatural revelation, 00:56:54.417 --> 00:56:56.893 even as a result of this study, 00:56:56.893 --> 00:56:59.530 of Your beautiful character of love, 00:56:59.530 --> 00:57:01.787 that You will never stop loving us. 00:57:01.787 --> 00:57:03.505 May we open our hearts to receive 00:57:03.505 --> 00:57:05.257 Your love, even today. 00:57:05.257 --> 00:57:07.118 In Jesus' name. Amen. 00:57:07.118 --> 00:57:08.232 (Team) Amen. 00:57:08.232 --> 00:57:09.617 (Derek) Thanks for joining us 00:57:09.617 --> 00:57:10.774 for Hope Sabbath School. 00:57:10.774 --> 00:57:13.395 This is going to be an amazing journey. 00:57:13.395 --> 00:57:15.175 You say, "Derek, it's going to change 00:57:15.175 --> 00:57:17.197 my picture of God." Praise God! 00:57:17.197 --> 00:57:19.663 See God for the awesome loving God 00:57:19.663 --> 00:57:20.810 that He really is. 00:57:20.810 --> 00:57:22.110 And, friend, don't keep 00:57:22.110 --> 00:57:24.260 that good news to yourself. 00:57:24.260 --> 00:57:26.021 Go out and be a blessing 00:57:26.021 --> 00:57:27.020 to those around you. 00:57:27.020 --> 00:57:52.123 ♪ theme music ♪