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(Derek) Welcome to Hope Sabbath School,
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an in-depth, interactive study
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of the Word of God.
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I am excited today as we begin
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a brand new series
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on God's Love and Justice.
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In fact, I feel like we are walking
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on holy ground, and I'm glad
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that you joined us as we talk
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about a God who loves freely.
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So, welcome to Hope Sabbath School
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and welcome to the team,
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good to see you all.
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Thanks for being here.
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We've got some remote team members
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with us, too; let's take a look
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and see who's joining us remotely today.
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Faith, good to see you,
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glad you're with us.
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Tricia Lee, welcome back,
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always good to see you.
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And, Gleny, great
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to have you with us today.
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We're so glad that you're with us, too,
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because you're part
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of our global interactive study together.
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And we're always happy to hear from you,
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our Hope Sabbath School members
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from around the world.
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You can write to us at sshope@hopetv.org.
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You say, "Derek, I've memorized that."
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Well, then send us a note
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and share with us how God is blessing you
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through a study of His Word.
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You say, "Derek, I'm actually teaching
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a class; I'm downloading the outline
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from the website, and I'm sharing
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the Word of God; praise God.
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Write to us and let us know.
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Here's a note from Kyrol
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who writes to us from Papua New Guinea,
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and he says, "I'm truly blessed
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every Sabbath since I started watching
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Hope Sabbath School
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through YouTube last year."
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Well, I don't know.
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It's always dangerous to say
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how many subscribers we have.
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It's close to [120,000],
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but probably that will be out of date,
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Travis, by the next time we read it.
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But one of them is Kyrol
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in Papua New Guinea; isn't that awesome?
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(Team) Praise God.
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(Derek) "I've watched every Sabbath
morning
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before I go to Bible study.
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Glory, honor and praise be to God
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for the Hope Sabbath School team."
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And we say? Praise God, right?
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"May God continue to bless
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and use all of you as His witnesses
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to share His amazing truths
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before Christ returns."
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What do we say?
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(Derek, Team) Amen.
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(Derek) Kyrol, thanks for writing to us
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from Papua New Guinea, and we're glad
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you are part of our global family.
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Well, Suwilanji writes to us from Zambia
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and says, "I am a Pentecostal preacher
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in Zambia, and I'm addicted
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to Hope Sabbath School."
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(Team) Wow.
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(Derek) Well, Suwilanji, thanks
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for writing to us.
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We're happy that you're sharing
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the gospel in your country
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and learning more about the Word of God
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on Hope Sabbath School.
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Thanks for your note.
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Here's a hand-written note
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from a donor in Maryland
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in the United States of America.
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For those of you who may not know,
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we actually film Hope Sabbath School
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in the state of Maryland.
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And the donor writes,
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"Hello, Hope Sabbath School."
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You know they do that
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so you'll wave, right?
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"I'm so happy to be with you once again
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to see your smiling faces,
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to be part of your interactive study
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that blesses my heart immensely.
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The study is so plain
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that even an 84-year-old
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like me can understand.
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The team members' testimonies
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are such a blessing to me.
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I thank God for the Hope
Sabbath School team
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spreading the gospel around the world.
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Enclosed is a small contribution,"
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the donor writes, but no donation is small
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when God blesses it,
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a donation of 50 dollars.
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Thank you so much, Donor in Maryland.
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You know who you are.
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And thanks to each one of you.
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We're a donor-supported minsitry.
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You say, "Derek, could I have a part?"
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Absolutely! Go to our website,
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hopetv.org/hopess,
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click on the yellow button
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and give online, or you get an address
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and write us a note
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just like this donor did.
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Thank you to each one
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for being part of this miracle.
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One last note, and I'm looking at Travis
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over here, Travis, because Nadine
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is writing from Guyana.
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So, I don't know if we can all
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give her a wave, but, Nadine, we want
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you to know one of our team members,
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Travis, was just in Guyana
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holding some meetings, and so that's
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a special place in [his] heart.
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"Thank you," Nadine writes,
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"for Hope Sabbath School.
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You are such a blessing to us.
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An interactive study of the Word of God
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helps me to have
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a closer relationship with Jesus."
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(Team) Amen.
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(Derek) That's why we do it!
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You know, the demons know a lot
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about the Bible, and people
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could win a Bible quiz and be lost.
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But when you study the Bible and have
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a closer relationship with Jesus,
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that's eternal salvation, isn't it?
Awesome.
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"May God continue to bless you all.
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We love you all. Nadine."
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Well, Nadine, thanks for writing to us,
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and I'm excited that you are all part
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of our global family.
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We would love to hear
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from you, so, write to us.
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I noticed a lot of you put comments
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on the YouTube channel when you watch,
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and that's great, too, but you can
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also write to us at sshope@hopetv.org.
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Well, today we're going to learn
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a new theme song.
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It is 3,000 years old.
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We sing Scripture songs here
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on Hope Sabbath School.
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It is Psalm 63, and it says,
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"O God, You are my God;
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early will I seek You,"
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but we lost the tune somewhere
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in the last 3,000 years,
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so my wife put a new tune to it.
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And you can go to our website
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and download the song free
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and the sheet music, if you'd like
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to sing it in your Bible study group.
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Just go to hopetv.org/hopess,
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that's our web address,
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and you can download the song,
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sheet music, and sing it.
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We'd like to teach it to you right now.
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♪ music ♪
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(Derek) Amen? Wow, that was beautiful.
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I hear you sing, too.
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You say, "Derek, you couldn't hear us,"
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but I was just imagining you singing.
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And I just want to challenge us
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with the thought, when the enemy
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comes upon us like a flood,
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we just sing that song, "O God,
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You are my God;
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early will I seek You," right?
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We can run to God, a God
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of love and mercy who will welcome us
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with loving arms.
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Well, great to see
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our remotes singing, too.
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I know we can't see you all,
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but you're singing the Word, too,
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and we're hiding that Word in our hearts.
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Today, we're going to study
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how God Loves Freely.
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It's an amazing study, and we invite you
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to pray with us as we
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open the Word of God.
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Father in Heaven, thank You
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for the revelation in the Word of God.
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The Scripture is given
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by inspiration of God
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and is profitable for us.
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Guide us in our interactive study today
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by your Holy Spirit.
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We pray in Jesus' name. Amen.
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(Team) Amen.
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(Derek) Well, we're going to start
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in the book of Exodus,
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that's the second book
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of the Hebrew Scriptures, the second book
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of the Pentateuch as it's called.
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In Exodus, chapter 33, and, Puia,
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I'm going to ask you to begin our study
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today by reading verses 12 to 19.
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I want to invite you and those joining
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around the world to listen
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to what revelation we see
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of the character of God,
here in Exodus 33.
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(Puia) Sure, and I'll be reading
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from the New King James Version,
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Exodus 33, verses 12 to 19:
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(Derek) Wow, that is amazing dialogue
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between the Lord and Moses.
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What are some lessons we can learn
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just from hearing it if we
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just had that one Scripture?
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What could we learn
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about the character of God? Kylynda?
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(Kylynda) God wants to be with us.
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(Derek) So, He's a relational God,
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which, by the way, we ought not to take
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for granted because a lot of pictures
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of God are like, "Well, He did something,
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and then He left." Harold?
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(Harold) Very personable, because you
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can talk to Him as a Person.
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(Derek) He wants a relationship,
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and He's communicating.
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Alright. Yes, James.
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(James) He is a God of companionship.
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Moses asked for a companion,
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and God said, "I will be your Companion."
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(Derek) "I will go
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with you," that's right.
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Gleny, what do you hear in this text
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that impresses you
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about the character of God?
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(Gleny) Besides all that was mentioned,
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we see that He is good,
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He shows a lot of compassion,
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and He desires to be known.
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(Derek) Alright, that's a good point
Gleny makes.
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His goodness, don't take that
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for granted, you know?
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It's that God is good.
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He wants a relationship with us. Don?
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(Don) Also with the first text,
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"I know you by your name."
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(Derek) Thank you for pointing that out.
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So, talk about companionship
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but not just with Moses, He wants
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a personal relationship with us.
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Now, to put that in context,
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Sophia, if you could go back one chapter
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with us, take us back to Exodus 32
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and read the first three verses.
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Let's have a little context.
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God is saying, "I want a relationship
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with you; I want to show
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My compassion and love."
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Let's see what's just happened
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as part of the exodus.
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(Sophia) I'll be reading
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from the New King James Version,
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chapter 32, verses 1 through 3:
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(Derek) And what did they do with that,
anybody remember?
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(Team) Golden calf.
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(Derek) They made a golden calf!
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And not only did they make a golden calf,
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but what did they say?
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(Sophia) "This is our god."
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(Derek) That, "you're the god that brought
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us out of Egypt"!
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I mean, it's like, terrible!
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And yet, in the context of that,
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God shows His love.
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Now, I want to ask Tricia Lee a question.
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Tricia Lee, we always appreciate
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hearing from you.
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Tricia Lee, it says, "I will
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have compassion on whom I
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will have compassion,"
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but tell me somewhere else
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in the Scripture, how many people
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does God have compassion on?
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(Tricia Lee) God has compassion
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on all people; we know that
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from John, chapter 3, verse 16.
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(Derek) And what does it say there?
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Have you memorized it?
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(Tricia Lee) It says, "For God
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so loved the world that He gave
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His only begotten Son, that whosoever
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believes in Him should not perish
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but have everlasting life."
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(Derek) So, I just don't want a person
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to say, "Well, I guess He has compassion
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on the ones," and then pick
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a few here and have compassion on them.
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As Tricia Lee quoted (I think she's got
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another comment to share),
"God so loved..."?
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(Team) "...the world."
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(Derek) Right. You want to add to that?
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(Tricia Lee) When I think about that verse
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in Exodus, "I'll have compassion
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on whom I'll have compassion,"
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" I will be gracious
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to whom I will be gracious," I think
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about it in the context
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of the immediate request that Moses
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made to God where he said,
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"Show me Your glory."
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And we know that no one can see God's face
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or His full glory and live, and so I think
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that was just God responding and saying,
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"Yes, I will be gracious in showing you
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who I am, and I will be
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compassionate enough to let you survive
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this encounter and experience with Me."
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I think it was just more God expressing
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that in this request, "Show me Your face,
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show me Your glory," that He was saying,
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"Yes, I can answer and honor
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that special request for you, Moses."
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(Derek) Well, with such an amazing view -
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and, Travis, I want to hear your point -
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with such an amazing view
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of the character of God loving the world,
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why are there so many people
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with distorted views
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of the character of God?
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If you want, make your comment first,
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Travis, and then build on that question.
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(Travis) So, when I read those verses,
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and I read that God would be gracious
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to whom He would be gracious,
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I immediately thought there are people
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in the world that we may see that we
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would believe shouldn't be extended grace.
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And then I remembered, anyone who calls
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on the name of the Lord shall be saved.
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And I think the reason that that was
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written in there is that we may
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in our human minds believe that a person
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shouldn't be extended grace.
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But God says, "I will have compassion
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on whom I will have compassion."
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(Derek) Wow, so people that we
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may not think deserve...
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That could have been us at some point
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in our lives, right? Samantha?
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(Samantha) To answer your question
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about why people have...
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(Derek) Distorted views?
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(Samantha) Yes, I feel like it's
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just what the devil does.
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He tries to discredit who God is,
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and so he puts the wrong thoughts
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of God in peoples' minds.
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Instead of having them believe
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that, "Okay, yes," he has them think,
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"Why would a loving God cause
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your family member to die?"
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"Why would a loving God cause
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your wife to become sick?"
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And so, I feel like it just all a part
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of that Great Controversy where Satan
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tries to discredit who God is.
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And people who do not have
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that full understanding of Him, it's easy
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because if you don't have
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that full armor, then you can easily fall
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for anything that the devil brings to you.
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(Derek) And unfortunately, if you
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look, for example...
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And I see Gleny's hand and Kylynda's, too,
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and Harold; there are lots
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of hands raised here.
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Unfortunately, if you look
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at medieval art, you know, God looks
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like a horrible Person, and He's
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just trying to torture people,
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so it's not just in my imagination.
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There have been people teaching
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false ideas about the character of God.
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I'm going to take the hands,
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and we're going to move on.
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Kylynda, Gleny and Harold.
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(Kylynda) To go off what you said, Derek,
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in the end of Luke 11, Jesus
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critiques the religious leaders,
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and He says, "You know, you're
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overburdening people, you're making God
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seem like a tyrant that's only concerned
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about the smallest external effects,
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not the internal transformation."
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So some of our perception of God
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can, unfortunately, be distorted
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by different religious leaders
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or religious mentors who portray God
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in a way that isn't compassionate,
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that isn't relational.
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(Derek) False teaching.
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Gleny and then Harold.
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(Gleny) Yes, I just wanted to support
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Kylynda's point, too.
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You have your early caregivers,
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like maybe even your parents, teachers,
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as you had mentioned, people who are
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set up to give a representation of God,
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a good example of God, but somehow failed.
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And that makes you wonder, "If the people
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I looked up to had inflicted
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and caused so much pain,
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then God must be the same, too."
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(Derek) Ahh. Harold?
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(Harold) And I just want to add,
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because, yes, the issue of suffering
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and evil are some of the biggest questions
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that everybody has, even atheists have.
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It's like, how can a loving God reconcile
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the suffering that is in the world?
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But we cannot forget that our God
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also suffered with us.
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He is not indifferent to our suffering.
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Now, as to why He allows suffering,
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many times we do not know,
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but He does give us the courage
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because He suffered with us,
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and He tells us, "I'll be with you.
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I will give you the strength
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that you'll need to go through this,"
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and eventually we'll know the truth.
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There is a battle behind the scenes
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in the spiritual realm, and God
will give us the answer.
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(Derek) Do you know the amount -
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and we're going to move on -
but the amount
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of interaction right now - and it's
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like I said, there are 11 of us
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on the team and 14 hands raised -
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shows that this is really,
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we have an expression in English,
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like a hot-button issue.
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People are like, "What is
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the character of God like?"
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We start with a clear revelation
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that God is good, He wants
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a personal relationship,
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He knows us by name,
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and He loves the whole world.
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Now, before we come back to talk
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about how we can show that to the world,
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because there is a lot of distortion,
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let's think about some stories
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in the Bible which show God's love
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for people who either ignore
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or don't appreciate His love.
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Because you said He loves
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even the unworthy people, right?
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Can anybody think of a story?
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Don, can you think of a story?
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(Don) This reminds me of the Prodigal Son.
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The Prodigal Son when he [told] his dad,
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or his father, "Give me my inheritance,"
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but the problem was he
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squandered it all, right?
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But if we compare this to God's love,
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God's love is steadfast.
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His love remains toward us.
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(Derek) But in that same story,
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when he does come home,
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how does the father respond?
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(Don) He accepts him back fully.
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(Derek) What does he do?
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(Team Member) Throws a feast.
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(Derek) He throws his arms around him,
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he kisses him on the neck,
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he throws a party for him.
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And by the way, I don't know about you,
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but some people say, "Oh,
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terrible Prodigal Son," but the son
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that stayed home wasn't very nice,
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and yet the father loved him, too, right?
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Anybody else, think of a story,
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Tricia Lee, a story where it's obvious
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that God is showing love
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even to the people that may
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ignore His love or not welcome His love.
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(Tricia Lee) I think
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about an Old Testament story,
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the story of the people of Nineveh
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of this Assyrian Empire.
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They were known for being very violent
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and cruel, not just to others they
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were conquering but also to themselves.
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And God sent a prophet to warn them
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to correct their ways,
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and he traveled over a whole sea,
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took a ship to reach them,
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But He loved them enough to send them
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a warning message and give them
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an opportunity to change their ways,
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which they did take advantage of.
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And I thought that was an act of love.
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He didn't just leave them
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to just destroy themselves,
or destroy them
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without a warning, but He gave them
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an opportunity to really realize,
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"You can do better; you can live better."
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(Derek) So, He shows love to them
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even though the prophet Jonah
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complained about it, like, "God,
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You're really too loving."
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It would be easy to talk
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about the Ninevites who were very violent,
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like Tricia Lee mentioned,
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but actually His own people,
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the children of Israel,
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were very wayward, too.
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I want someone to summarize the mission
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of the prophet Hosea,
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what God asked him to do,
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and what was God trying to teach
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about the extent of His love?
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Anybody want to try a summary? Kylynda.
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(Kylynda) Hosea was a prophet
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for the children of Israel in a time
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when they were often backsliding from God.
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So God [told] the prophet, "I want you
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to marry a woman that you know
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will be unfaithful to you."
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(Derek) Ouch!
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(Kylynda) Right? Quite harsh, but Hosea
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follows God's command.
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He marries Gomer,
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and what happens, happens.
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She has multiple children;
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they're not Hosea's.
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Hosea gives them names that indicate
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this kind of separation
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between God and His people,
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like a child named "Not My People."
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And eventually, even though it's
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not quite clear in the Bible, Gomer
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falls into slavery; it's implicated
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that this [is of] a sexual nature.
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And God says, "Go back to her, be faithful
to her even though she's
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not faithful to you."
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(Derek) Doesn't he have
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to actually purchase her back?
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(Kylynda) He redeems her from slavery
with money.
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(Derek) Is that a picture
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of the love of God?
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I hope you're listening today,
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that God loves us
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with an immeasurable and unfailing love.
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But just telling that story,
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putting ourselves as a spouse,
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whether a husband or a wife,
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with an unfaithful spouse,
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it would be easy for us to say what?
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"I'm done. I'm done," right?
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(Don) Ready to separate.
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(Derek) Right, but God continues,
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and you're saying, even when she's
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in some kind of enslaved situation.
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(Kylynda) Yes, Hosea goes back.
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He redeems her; he purchases her debt,
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and he loves her, and he says,
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"What's past is past.
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Now we'll be faithful to each other.
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You'll be faithful."
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(Derek) So, I'm going to ask James
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to take us to that little book of Hosea,
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to chapter 14, because there is
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a beautiful revelation, again,
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as Sophia read with the Exodus revelation,
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they had just been dancing naked
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around a golden calf and calling it
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the god that delivered them.
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And here, waywardness typified
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by Gomer's behavior, let's see
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how the Lord speaks in chapter 14
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of Hosea, verses 1 to 4.
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(James) Sure, and I'll be reading
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from the New King James Version:
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(Derek) What do you think
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about that immeasurable, unfailing love
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of God even with such waywardness?
Sophia?
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(Sophia) He's such a forgiving Person.
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(Derek) Yeah, forgiving.
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(Sophia) Even when He was so angry,
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you know, cast them away from Himself.
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(Derek) Is it okay to be angry
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when things like that happen?
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Doesn't Scripture say, "Be angry and..."?
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(Harold) Do not sin.
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(Derek) "Don't sin," right?
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So, there's every reason to be angry.
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Actually, not so much angry at the person,
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but angry at what sin is doing
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to damage someone that you love, right?
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"I will heal their backsliding.
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I will love them freely." Yes, Puia.
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(Puia) A verse like this, Derek,
00:27:43.887 --> 00:27:46.496
gives me hope that there is forgiveness
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and a new start for everyone.
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There may be someone here
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listening or among us...
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You know, oftentimes we fall,
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and we make mistakes, and the guilt
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and shame that comes along with it
00:27:59.283 --> 00:28:01.080
is too much to bear for us.
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But here we see God letting us know
00:28:04.201 --> 00:28:05.987
that, "I will heal you.
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You can have a new start,
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a new beginning," what a hope.
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(Derek) I'm going to ask Faith a question.
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Faith, did you grow up...
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I don't know the answer, by the way,
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so there's no right or wrong answer,
00:28:19.806 --> 00:28:22.700
but did you grow up with that perspective
00:28:22.700 --> 00:28:25.772
of the love of God, that even when we
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make terrible choices like Gomer made,
00:28:29.920 --> 00:28:32.450
right, like the children of Israel made
00:28:32.450 --> 00:28:34.791
at various times, that God was
00:28:34.791 --> 00:28:36.947
relentless in His pursuit
00:28:36.947 --> 00:28:38.279
of them to love them?
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Did you grow up with that kind of picture
00:28:40.265 --> 00:28:41.479
of the love of God?
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(Faith) Yes, I think that picture
00:28:43.676 --> 00:28:46.339
was also shown in my parents.
00:28:46.339 --> 00:28:49.882
Obviously they disciplined, but they
00:28:49.882 --> 00:28:53.399
taught us, and they continued to pursue us
00:28:53.399 --> 00:28:55.962
to steer us in the right direction
00:28:55.962 --> 00:28:57.605
and guide us and say, "Oh, this is
00:28:57.605 --> 00:28:58.894
the right thing to do,"
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and never give up on us.
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And I think as I got older,
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and now I'm in college, I have
00:29:05.583 --> 00:29:07.920
a big community, and I also continue
00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:10.149
to read the Bible daily, which allows me
00:29:10.149 --> 00:29:12.394
to see that God won't give up.
00:29:12.394 --> 00:29:15.219
And it's like Puia was saying,
00:29:15.219 --> 00:29:18.349
you have that shame and guilt,
00:29:18.349 --> 00:29:20.283
but you've got to make sure you
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go directly to God,
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and you don't sit in that.
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So, yeah, I did grow up
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with that picture of God.
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(Derek) Thank you so much
00:29:27.689 --> 00:29:28.864
for sharing that, Faith.
00:29:28.864 --> 00:29:31.394
This leads me to a question,
00:29:31.394 --> 00:29:32.980
an interaction question for us,
00:29:32.980 --> 00:29:35.372
because Faith said she saw that
00:29:35.372 --> 00:29:37.369
revealed in her parents, right?
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So, the question I wanted to ask,
00:29:39.678 --> 00:29:41.988
and I think this is a good time:
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With so many distortions
00:29:45.287 --> 00:29:46.592
of the character of God -
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and we see God here,
00:29:47.860 --> 00:29:51.033
loving freely, relentlessly -
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how can we help, Harold,
00:29:53.182 --> 00:29:55.156
how can we help people
00:29:55.156 --> 00:29:57.094
to see a clearer revelation
00:29:57.094 --> 00:29:58.634
of the character of God?
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(Harold) Well, in my case, I believe
00:30:00.687 --> 00:30:01.957
that you need to meet them
00:30:01.957 --> 00:30:04.603
where they're at, reflect God's character.
00:30:04.603 --> 00:30:06.713
If they need a companion, be there.
00:30:06.713 --> 00:30:08.397
If they need help, provide the help
00:30:08.397 --> 00:30:10.018
that they need, because at the end
00:30:10.018 --> 00:30:12.362
of the day, we are ambassadors of Christ.
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We are to represent Him.
00:30:14.032 --> 00:30:16.450
And even Paul says, "The only reason
00:30:16.450 --> 00:30:18.838
why the Gentiles blaspheme the name of God
00:30:18.838 --> 00:30:22.048
is because of you, of your example,
00:30:22.048 --> 00:30:24.058
because you do things, you're hypocrites."
00:30:24.058 --> 00:30:25.895
We're all hypocrites; I've been there.
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(Derek) ...a personal question, Harold,
00:30:27.824 --> 00:30:29.460
because I know you didn't grow up
00:30:29.460 --> 00:30:31.490
in a very strong Christian family.
00:30:31.490 --> 00:30:35.759
So, who helped you - because some people
00:30:35.759 --> 00:30:37.611
have heard a little of your testimony,
00:30:37.611 --> 00:30:40.409
it's quite amazing - but who helped you
00:30:40.409 --> 00:30:43.438
to see that revelation of a God
00:30:43.438 --> 00:30:45.037
who loves freely?
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(Harold) Well, it took, after I was
00:30:47.411 --> 00:30:49.529
introduced to God, maybe 15 years later.
00:30:49.529 --> 00:30:50.689
It was a friend of mine
00:30:50.689 --> 00:30:52.467
in Rochester, New York.
00:30:52.467 --> 00:30:55.902
I never heard that representation of God
00:30:55.902 --> 00:30:57.878
the way she presented it to me.
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I mean, she was not perfect, you know,
00:30:59.691 --> 00:31:02.516
she had her flaws, yet all these years
00:31:02.516 --> 00:31:05.527
I thought God was very demanding,
00:31:05.527 --> 00:31:07.818
very vindictive, and I was
00:31:07.818 --> 00:31:08.910
always afraid of Him.
00:31:08.910 --> 00:31:09.960
But when she said,
00:31:09.960 --> 00:31:11.730
"God is very compassionate.
00:31:11.730 --> 00:31:13.933
You can talk to Him as a friend,"...
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I always had to talk to Him,
00:31:15.271 --> 00:31:17.806
like, with this reverence of like,
00:31:17.806 --> 00:31:19.575
"Oh, yes, Sir," "No, Sir," but I talk
00:31:19.575 --> 00:31:21.075
to Him as a friend.
00:31:21.075 --> 00:31:24.516
And I believe that He can forgive.
00:31:24.516 --> 00:31:26.373
I did not believe He forgave, before.
00:31:26.373 --> 00:31:27.446
Even though I've heard
00:31:27.446 --> 00:31:28.787
the message of forgiveness,
00:31:28.787 --> 00:31:30.569
I did not believe he actually forgave
00:31:30.569 --> 00:31:32.000
because I was too full of sin.
00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:33.393
I thought I had to be perfect
00:31:33.393 --> 00:31:34.989
before I would present myself...
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(Derek) Accepted by Him.
00:31:36.754 --> 00:31:40.222
Gleny, I see your hand; how would you
00:31:40.222 --> 00:31:42.422
like to add to the discussion?
00:31:42.422 --> 00:31:44.476
(Gleny) As a therapist, I had been working
00:31:44.476 --> 00:31:46.925
with a client at a residential
00:31:46.925 --> 00:31:49.242
depression/anxiety recovery program,
00:31:49.242 --> 00:31:51.546
and he was so blown away,
00:31:51.546 --> 00:31:53.467
but also simultaneously confused
00:31:53.467 --> 00:31:55.040
with the compassion and love
00:31:55.040 --> 00:31:56.879
he was experiencing around him.
00:31:56.879 --> 00:31:59.006
I remember he mentioned that he
00:31:59.006 --> 00:32:01.344
doesn't want to be like the people.
00:32:01.344 --> 00:32:03.357
He knew who would get so rigid
00:32:03.357 --> 00:32:05.082
and dictatorial when they would read
00:32:05.082 --> 00:32:07.294
the Word and understand God, and he said,
00:32:07.294 --> 00:32:09.547
"I just don't want to be like that."
00:32:09.547 --> 00:32:12.383
And I asked him, like, there are many
00:32:12.383 --> 00:32:13.864
of us who understand and read
00:32:13.864 --> 00:32:15.032
the Word of God; do you
00:32:15.032 --> 00:32:17.364
think that we are the same?
00:32:17.364 --> 00:32:19.509
And he said, "Oh, wait, that's right.
00:32:19.509 --> 00:32:22.246
You guys are some of the first people
00:32:22.246 --> 00:32:24.763
I've met who had a different response,
00:32:24.763 --> 00:32:27.469
actually a very positive response
00:32:27.469 --> 00:32:30.091
after intentionally learning about God."
00:32:30.091 --> 00:32:32.362
So, by their fruits, you shall know them.
00:32:32.362 --> 00:32:34.849
And he was drawn to God by the way
00:32:34.849 --> 00:32:36.692
we were working with him.
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(Derek) So, we're hearing a theme.
00:32:38.336 --> 00:32:39.556
Thank you so much, Gleny.
00:32:39.556 --> 00:32:41.283
We're hearing a theme that, with all
00:32:41.283 --> 00:32:42.050
of the confusion
00:32:42.050 --> 00:32:43.712
about the character of God
00:32:43.712 --> 00:32:46.663
that followers of God, you said,
00:32:46.663 --> 00:32:49.045
could actually be part of the problem.
00:32:49.045 --> 00:32:51.091
We could even have false teachers
00:32:51.091 --> 00:32:53.381
who are religious teachers, right,
00:32:53.381 --> 00:32:55.632
who give a confused picture of God.
00:32:55.632 --> 00:32:59.008
Or we can be a living example
of that. Travis.
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(Travis) Derek, one of the things
00:33:00.581 --> 00:33:01.978
that I've learned about being
00:33:01.978 --> 00:33:03.573
a powerful witness for Jesus
00:33:03.573 --> 00:33:05.991
is in Acts, chapter 1, verse 8,
00:33:05.991 --> 00:33:07.987
It says, "You will receive power
00:33:07.987 --> 00:33:09.912
to be my witnesses."
00:33:09.912 --> 00:33:12.253
And we're not that smart,
00:33:12.253 --> 00:33:14.362
and God will give us the power
00:33:14.362 --> 00:33:17.697
to be appropriate witnesses of the gospel.
00:33:17.697 --> 00:33:19.372
(Derek) So there is a revelation.
00:33:19.372 --> 00:33:21.404
I see Sophia, and then, Tricia Lee,
00:33:21.404 --> 00:33:22.761
I see your hand.
00:33:22.761 --> 00:33:24.150
(Sophia) Just the distortion
00:33:24.150 --> 00:33:25.482
of the character reminded me
00:33:25.482 --> 00:33:29.267
of the Puritans in 1600s America.
00:33:29.267 --> 00:33:31.865
They came to America to escape
00:33:31.865 --> 00:33:33.094
religious persecution,
00:33:33.094 --> 00:33:35.309
and right after they made their colony,
00:33:35.309 --> 00:33:36.431
they began to persecute
00:33:36.431 --> 00:33:37.812
everyone around them
00:33:37.812 --> 00:33:40.042
because of their strict
religious standards.
00:33:40.042 --> 00:33:41.654
(Derek) To be fair, we might say
00:33:41.654 --> 00:33:43.199
some of them began to persecute
00:33:43.199 --> 00:33:44.978
those around them because there were
00:33:44.978 --> 00:33:46.667
probably some who really did reveal
00:33:46.667 --> 00:33:47.998
the love of God, right?
00:33:47.998 --> 00:33:51.317
But it's easy for us to fall into that,
00:33:51.317 --> 00:33:54.823
that we don't reflect
00:33:54.823 --> 00:33:56.354
the immeasurable, unfailing love
00:33:56.354 --> 00:33:58.212
of God. Tricia Lee?
00:33:58.212 --> 00:33:59.760
(Tricia Lee) There's a Scripture
00:33:59.760 --> 00:34:02.240
I'd like to share in Jeremiah,
00:34:02.240 --> 00:34:08.094
chapter 32, verses 38 through 40.
00:34:08.094 --> 00:34:10.458
(Derek) What translation are
you reading from,?
00:34:10.458 --> 00:34:11.657
(Tricia Lee) I'm reading
00:34:11.657 --> 00:34:16.595
from the New King James Version,
and it reads:
00:34:50.093 --> 00:34:52.608
And "fear" being that loving respect.
00:34:52.608 --> 00:34:54.418
I love this Scripture because it
00:34:54.418 --> 00:34:57.619
reminds me of this idea of a covenant,
00:34:57.619 --> 00:34:59.690
and that that is what God's love is.
00:34:59.690 --> 00:35:02.213
And repeatedly in this passage He says,
00:35:02.213 --> 00:35:05.926
"I will, I will, I will."
00:35:05.926 --> 00:35:08.012
So often in our human experience,
00:35:08.012 --> 00:35:10.245
love is like a transaction,
00:35:10.245 --> 00:35:12.395
"I'll do this if you do that."
00:35:12.395 --> 00:35:13.476
"If you do this,
00:35:13.476 --> 00:35:15.234
then I'll always do this."
00:35:15.234 --> 00:35:17.436
But God's everlasting love
00:35:17.436 --> 00:35:19.331
is a covenant to us,
00:35:19.331 --> 00:35:21.726
that, no matter what we do,
00:35:21.726 --> 00:35:24.566
He will never stop loving us,
00:35:24.566 --> 00:35:26.442
and that He has committed
00:35:26.442 --> 00:35:28.141
to what He will do.
00:35:28.141 --> 00:35:30.022
And so, there are times where there are
00:35:30.022 --> 00:35:32.047
conditional promises and things like that,
00:35:32.047 --> 00:35:34.860
but His love is everlasting, and it's
00:35:34.860 --> 00:35:36.290
always a promise
00:35:36.290 --> 00:35:39.038
of "I will, I will, I will."
00:35:39.038 --> 00:35:41.104
And I think that's very different
00:35:41.104 --> 00:35:43.412
than how we treat each other.
00:35:43.412 --> 00:35:45.637
You know, you don't hear someone
00:35:45.637 --> 00:35:47.364
in a marriage ceremony saying,
00:35:47.364 --> 00:35:48.650
"I will do these things
00:35:48.650 --> 00:35:50.274
only if you do that."
00:35:50.274 --> 00:35:51.546
You always state your vows
00:35:51.546 --> 00:35:52.942
as what you're committing
00:35:52.942 --> 00:35:55.143
to that person, and in a way,
00:35:55.143 --> 00:35:56.479
this everlasting covenant is
00:35:56.479 --> 00:35:58.028
how God has committed
00:35:58.028 --> 00:36:02.457
His unfailing, immeasurable love to us.
00:36:02.457 --> 00:36:03.302
(Derek) Thank you
00:36:03.302 --> 00:36:05.175
so much for sharing that.
00:36:05.175 --> 00:36:06.736
There was a word that Tricia Lee
00:36:06.736 --> 00:36:08.382
was repeating over and over again
00:36:08.382 --> 00:36:09.920
that leads us into the next part
00:36:09.920 --> 00:36:11.676
of our study, and that is
00:36:11.676 --> 00:36:13.771
the everlasting love of God.
00:36:13.771 --> 00:36:15.400
And I'd like someone to read
00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:19.809
John 17 and verse 24.
00:36:19.809 --> 00:36:22.749
John 17, Faith, do you have that?
00:36:22.749 --> 00:36:25.650
John 17 and verse 24?
00:36:25.650 --> 00:36:28.274
Let's see what testimony Jesus gave
00:36:28.274 --> 00:36:30.797
regarding the everlasting love of God.
00:36:30.797 --> 00:36:32.126
(Faith) And I'll be reading
00:36:32.126 --> 00:36:33.660
from the New King James Version,
00:36:33.660 --> 00:36:36.549
John 17, verse 24:
00:36:51.878 --> 00:36:54.250
(Derek) Alright, so there's a revelation.
00:36:54.250 --> 00:36:55.418
You say, "Oh, no, that's
00:36:55.418 --> 00:36:59.549
just that the Father loved His Son
00:36:59.549 --> 00:37:01.511
before the foundation of the world."
00:37:01.511 --> 00:37:04.131
What evidence do you find, anybody,
00:37:04.131 --> 00:37:08.365
in the Scriptures that God's love for us
00:37:08.365 --> 00:37:10.590
is also everlasting?
00:37:10.590 --> 00:37:13.958
It's not bound by time, you know,
00:37:13.958 --> 00:37:15.310
kind of like a time clock,
00:37:15.310 --> 00:37:18.050
"You've got three years left," right,
00:37:18.050 --> 00:37:21.428
or three mistakes left, or something,
00:37:21.428 --> 00:37:22.996
but that it's everlasting.
00:37:22.996 --> 00:37:25.458
Jesus said, "The Father has loved Me
00:37:25.458 --> 00:37:27.471
since before the foundation of the world."
00:37:27.471 --> 00:37:31.468
Anybody think of a Bible text?
Yes, Samantha.
00:37:31.468 --> 00:37:32.711
(Samantha) Well, I thought
00:37:32.711 --> 00:37:35.943
of Romans 8, verses 38 and 39.
00:37:35.943 --> 00:37:36.977
(Derek) Okay, give us
00:37:36.977 --> 00:37:38.263
a moment to find that.
00:37:38.263 --> 00:37:40.575
Romans, chapter 8?
00:37:40.575 --> 00:37:42.871
(Samantha) Verses 38 and 39.
00:37:42.871 --> 00:37:44.427
(Derek) And the letter
00:37:44.427 --> 00:37:47.335
to the Romans was written by?
00:37:47.335 --> 00:37:49.986
Anybody? The Apostle Paul, that's right.
00:37:49.986 --> 00:37:51.290
So, these are to Christians
00:37:51.290 --> 00:37:53.380
living in Rome, and you're reading
00:37:53.380 --> 00:37:55.145
verses 38 and 39.
00:37:55.145 --> 00:37:57.406
(Samantha) Yes, from the New
King James Version.
00:37:57.406 --> 00:37:58.485
(Derek) How does...?
00:37:58.485 --> 00:37:59.414
(Samantha) It says:
00:38:24.153 --> 00:38:26.059
(Derek) Somebody excited about that?
00:38:26.059 --> 00:38:27.791
That's pretty amazing, isn't it?
00:38:27.791 --> 00:38:30.120
Nothing can separate us. Puia.
00:38:30.120 --> 00:38:32.788
(Puia) So, back to John 17:24
00:38:32.788 --> 00:38:34.787
that we read earlier, what I see here
00:38:34.787 --> 00:38:38.070
is that before creating the world,
00:38:38.070 --> 00:38:40.704
God had already enjoyed
00:38:40.704 --> 00:38:43.198
being in a relationship of love.
00:38:43.198 --> 00:38:44.431
So, in a sense, God
00:38:44.431 --> 00:38:46.246
didn't need to create us.
00:38:46.246 --> 00:38:51.330
He didn't owe us this existence, nor love.
00:38:51.330 --> 00:38:54.833
So this idea of God loving us freely,
00:38:54.833 --> 00:38:59.360
voluntarily, is all an act of sacrifice
00:38:59.360 --> 00:39:03.613
in a way, and we don't deserve
00:39:03.613 --> 00:39:06.681
this level of love from God.
00:39:06.681 --> 00:39:10.833
(Derek) But it's who God is, right?
00:39:10.833 --> 00:39:13.617
Isn't there a text that says, "God is..."?
00:39:13.617 --> 00:39:16.486
(Derek, Team) "...love."
00:39:16.486 --> 00:39:18.029
(Derek) He doesn't just love,
00:39:18.029 --> 00:39:20.916
He does love, but He loves because it's...
00:39:20.916 --> 00:39:21.891
(Puia) His nature.
00:39:21.891 --> 00:39:23.036
(Derek) The very essence
00:39:23.036 --> 00:39:24.087
of who He is. Harold?
00:39:24.087 --> 00:39:25.587
(Harold) I was going to read...
00:39:25.587 --> 00:39:26.617
(Derek) Yes...
00:39:26.617 --> 00:39:30.115
(Harold) It's in Lamentations, chapter 3.
00:39:30.115 --> 00:39:31.753
(Derek) Lamentations doesn't sound
00:39:31.753 --> 00:39:34.234
like a very happy book, does it?
00:39:34.234 --> 00:39:36.746
But the prophet Jeremiah has
00:39:36.746 --> 00:39:38.530
a beautiful promise there.
00:39:38.530 --> 00:39:40.952
Lamentations, chapter 3 and verses?
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(Harold) 22 to 24.
00:39:42.578 --> 00:39:44.189
(Derek) 22 to 24, my wife
00:39:44.189 --> 00:39:46.912
likes to sing this, so how does that read?
00:39:46.912 --> 00:39:48.402
What translation are you...?
00:39:48.402 --> 00:39:49.568
(Harold) I'll be reading
00:39:49.568 --> 00:39:52.623
from the English Standard Version,
and it reads:
00:40:12.548 --> 00:40:13.964
(Derek) Beautiful, that's one
00:40:13.964 --> 00:40:15.639
of my favorite verses, by the way.
00:40:15.639 --> 00:40:18.475
And by the way, the context of that
00:40:18.475 --> 00:40:20.647
is not that everything is going perfectly.
00:40:20.647 --> 00:40:22.055
What's just happened?
00:40:22.055 --> 00:40:24.401
(Harold) The Israelites were
under captivity.
00:40:24.401 --> 00:40:26.658
(Derek) They had just been taken
into captivity.
00:40:26.658 --> 00:40:27.668
(Harold) To Babylon.
00:40:27.668 --> 00:40:29.504
(Derek) That's right, Daniel, Ezekiel,
00:40:29.504 --> 00:40:31.459
and all those prophets are there.
00:40:31.459 --> 00:40:33.284
Jeremiah is left in Jerusalem.
00:40:33.284 --> 00:40:39.143
It's been ransacked, and he's lamenting.
00:40:39.143 --> 00:40:41.257
But he says, "Through the Lord's mercies,"
00:40:41.257 --> 00:40:42.914
I'm quoting the New King James,
00:40:42.914 --> 00:40:45.215
"we are not consumed,
00:40:45.215 --> 00:40:47.113
because His compassions fail not."
00:40:47.113 --> 00:40:48.126
Thank you for sharing
00:40:48.126 --> 00:40:49.667
that text, beautiful. Yes, Don.
00:40:49.667 --> 00:40:52.575
(Don) Another unfailing love from God,
00:40:52.575 --> 00:40:55.891
if you'll allow me to read Isaiah 54?
00:40:55.891 --> 00:40:58.158
(Derek) Give us a chance to find it.
00:40:58.158 --> 00:40:59.018
(Don) I'm reading
00:40:59.018 --> 00:41:00.259
from the New King James.
00:41:00.259 --> 00:41:01.958
(Derek) Hold on just a minute then,
00:41:01.958 --> 00:41:05.466
"Eye-ZAY-ah" or "Eye-ZY-uh," chapter 54.
00:41:05.466 --> 00:41:06.535
(Don) Verse 10.
00:41:06.535 --> 00:41:07.706
(Derek) And verse 10,
00:41:07.706 --> 00:41:09.538
and what translation?
00:41:09.538 --> 00:41:10.540
(Don) New King James.
00:41:10.540 --> 00:41:11.732
(Derek) New King James,
00:41:11.732 --> 00:41:14.183
"Eye-ZAY-ah" or "Eye-ZY-uh," 54:10.
00:41:14.183 --> 00:41:15.328
(Don) And it says:
00:41:32.905 --> 00:41:34.497
(Derek) We could find many texts,
00:41:34.497 --> 00:41:37.505
I'm sure, in the Scripture that speak
00:41:37.505 --> 00:41:40.596
about the everlasting love of God,
00:41:40.596 --> 00:41:43.717
but one of the reasons
00:41:43.717 --> 00:41:46.955
that people struggle is because they've
00:41:46.955 --> 00:41:48.324
been in a relationship
00:41:48.324 --> 00:41:50.777
where love has failed.
00:41:50.777 --> 00:41:52.417
And they go, "Well, maybe God's
00:41:52.417 --> 00:41:53.494
just like that, too."
00:41:53.494 --> 00:41:55.096
"I thought it was
00:41:55.096 --> 00:41:58.632
a loving, safe environment."
00:41:58.632 --> 00:42:01.175
It may be a family member left,
00:42:01.175 --> 00:42:03.004
like a parent or a spouse
00:42:03.004 --> 00:42:05.198
or a close relationship,
00:42:05.198 --> 00:42:07.772
and it's like it's hard for us
00:42:07.772 --> 00:42:09.563
not to think, "Well, maybe God
00:42:09.563 --> 00:42:11.310
is that way, too."
00:42:11.310 --> 00:42:14.750
Anybody have an experience like that,
00:42:14.750 --> 00:42:21.558
yeah, challenged that, but somehow God
00:42:21.558 --> 00:42:23.473
made a clear picture that He
00:42:23.473 --> 00:42:26.931
would not abandon you that way?
00:42:26.931 --> 00:42:30.396
I don't know if anyone can relate to that.
00:42:30.396 --> 00:42:33.575
I see a couple of reticent hands going up.
00:42:33.575 --> 00:42:35.336
That's a tough question, isn't it,
00:42:35.336 --> 00:42:37.159
but could you see how that could...
00:42:37.159 --> 00:42:40.283
You know, daddy leaves, and it's like,
00:42:40.283 --> 00:42:41.859
"Well, maybe my heavenly Father
00:42:41.859 --> 00:42:44.071
is like that, too; maybe some day
00:42:44.071 --> 00:42:47.021
He will just stop being there," right?
00:42:47.021 --> 00:42:48.895
It's very real, isn't it? Harold?
00:42:48.895 --> 00:42:51.797
(Harold) Well, my father, it got
00:42:51.797 --> 00:42:53.019
to a point that I stopped
00:42:53.019 --> 00:42:55.120
calling him father.
00:42:55.120 --> 00:42:56.831
He was a very angry person.
00:42:56.831 --> 00:42:58.595
He was a womanizer.
00:42:58.595 --> 00:42:59.753
We would go to the park,
00:42:59.753 --> 00:43:01.379
and he will tell me, "This will be
00:43:01.379 --> 00:43:04.720
your new mom," and I'm like, "Excuse me?"
00:43:04.720 --> 00:43:12.947
And I barely saw him, so...
00:43:12.947 --> 00:43:15.242
(Derek) It's hard.
00:43:15.242 --> 00:43:17.992
(Harold) It did hurt because I
00:43:17.992 --> 00:43:21.603
always wanted a father, and I want
00:43:21.603 --> 00:43:27.393
to be there for my daughter, too.
00:43:27.393 --> 00:43:29.994
Not to mention the family was not good
00:43:29.994 --> 00:43:33.939
because my mom also had her problems
00:43:33.939 --> 00:43:37.827
growing up, so I did feel alone,
00:43:37.827 --> 00:43:42.048
so, oh, I'm sorry.
00:43:42.048 --> 00:43:47.023
(James) It's alright, it's alright.
Tell your story.
00:43:47.023 --> 00:43:49.225
(Harold) I did feel alone.
00:43:49.225 --> 00:43:53.357
I didn't have the family that I wanted
00:43:53.357 --> 00:43:56.283
because I didn't have birthdays...
00:43:56.283 --> 00:43:59.899
Like, I got very indifferent about things
00:43:59.899 --> 00:44:03.647
that people do as a family.
00:44:03.647 --> 00:44:06.090
So, I just tried to protect myself
00:44:06.090 --> 00:44:07.962
by trying to be indifferent
00:44:07.962 --> 00:44:12.331
to these things so I could move on in life
00:44:12.331 --> 00:44:14.452
because it's like, you know what, I cannot
00:44:14.452 --> 00:44:16.964
allow these things to control me
00:44:16.964 --> 00:44:19.279
or to dictate how I should live.
00:44:19.279 --> 00:44:20.877
I need to do something.
00:44:20.877 --> 00:44:23.898
So I do thank God that He did put people
00:44:23.898 --> 00:44:26.550
along the way that started painting
00:44:26.550 --> 00:44:29.767
this picture of God and trying to show me
00:44:29.767 --> 00:44:31.625
who God really is.
00:44:31.625 --> 00:44:33.119
And thankfully my mom,
00:44:33.119 --> 00:44:34.612
even with her problems, she did
00:44:34.612 --> 00:44:35.802
introduce me to the Bible
00:44:35.802 --> 00:44:37.686
at a very young age.
00:44:37.686 --> 00:44:40.371
So, I started reading and trying
00:44:40.371 --> 00:44:43.228
to understand God from that angle.
00:44:43.228 --> 00:44:46.755
So, then eventually, of course, I said,
00:44:46.755 --> 00:44:48.636
like my friend from Rochester,
00:44:48.636 --> 00:44:51.290
she eventually painted this bigger picture
00:44:51.290 --> 00:44:53.230
of God to help me, like, "Oh, wow,
00:44:53.230 --> 00:44:55.481
this is who God truly is;
00:44:55.481 --> 00:44:56.985
I can call You my Father
00:44:56.985 --> 00:44:59.173
because I always wanted a father,
00:44:59.173 --> 00:45:01.070
but You are my Father that has been..."
00:45:01.070 --> 00:45:03.018
Even though I did suffer, it was painful.
00:45:03.018 --> 00:45:05.850
I did go through experiences that you
00:45:05.850 --> 00:45:07.420
would think like, "Why would You
00:45:07.420 --> 00:45:08.364
allow that, God?"
00:45:08.364 --> 00:45:10.748
I mean it was done to me personally.
00:45:10.748 --> 00:45:12.408
I mean, I cannot share
00:45:12.408 --> 00:45:15.840
because of probably younger children,
00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:18.686
but it's like, sure, I did
00:45:18.686 --> 00:45:20.630
go through this experience, but I
00:45:20.630 --> 00:45:22.087
cannot blame God because I am
00:45:22.087 --> 00:45:23.408
in a broken world.
00:45:23.408 --> 00:45:24.825
There are so many distortions
00:45:24.825 --> 00:45:28.125
of God in the world, but yet we are
00:45:28.125 --> 00:45:30.065
accountable for these things.
00:45:30.065 --> 00:45:31.709
We are accountable, and we need
00:45:31.709 --> 00:45:33.049
to take responsibility.
00:45:33.049 --> 00:45:35.657
I cannot always put the blame on God.
00:45:35.657 --> 00:45:37.693
But at the end of the day, I do praise God
00:45:37.693 --> 00:45:44.012
that I was able to find a loving wife,
00:45:44.012 --> 00:45:46.787
my family, and I don't want
00:45:46.787 --> 00:45:51.331
to live like that; I really hated it.
00:45:51.331 --> 00:45:53.875
I just want to be there for Sophia.
00:45:53.875 --> 00:45:57.091
I want to give her a good representation
00:45:57.091 --> 00:46:00.414
of who God really is.
00:46:00.414 --> 00:46:02.722
(Derek) That's beautiful, Harold.
00:46:02.722 --> 00:46:05.045
For those of you who don't know,
00:46:05.045 --> 00:46:06.946
Brittany, who is one of our team members
00:46:06.946 --> 00:46:08.531
and actually will be teaching one
00:46:08.531 --> 00:46:10.934
in this series, but Brittany and Harold
00:46:10.934 --> 00:46:12.820
just had a beautiful little girl.
00:46:12.820 --> 00:46:15.004
And the name Sophia was mentioned,
00:46:15.004 --> 00:46:18.315
so I can repeat it publicly.
00:46:18.315 --> 00:46:22.278
And I'm really blessed
00:46:22.278 --> 00:46:25.222
by what Harold just shared, and that is,
00:46:25.222 --> 00:46:28.267
"I want my little girl to see
00:46:28.267 --> 00:46:30.132
a true representation of the character
00:46:30.132 --> 00:46:32.577
of our loving heavenly Father," right?
00:46:32.577 --> 00:46:33.316
(Harold) Amen.
00:46:33.316 --> 00:46:35.287
(Derek) And whether we're a parent
00:46:35.287 --> 00:46:39.462
or a friend, right, or a child
00:46:39.462 --> 00:46:41.505
to a parent, we want to be
00:46:41.505 --> 00:46:43.338
a living representation
00:46:43.338 --> 00:46:44.897
of what the loving character
00:46:44.897 --> 00:46:47.760
of God looks like.
00:46:47.760 --> 00:46:50.495
Whew, that's pretty intense,
00:46:50.495 --> 00:46:52.645
but I need to move us on
00:46:52.645 --> 00:46:54.547
to the last section,
00:46:54.547 --> 00:46:58.559
because let's start again:
00:46:58.559 --> 00:47:00.532
How many people does God love?
00:47:00.532 --> 00:47:01.542
(Team) Everybody.
00:47:01.542 --> 00:47:03.953
(Derek) He loves everyone,
00:47:03.953 --> 00:47:07.150
but somehow we have a choice to make
00:47:07.150 --> 00:47:08.970
whether we will accept
00:47:08.970 --> 00:47:10.352
that intimate relationship
00:47:10.352 --> 00:47:13.629
that we studied about.
00:47:13.629 --> 00:47:16.406
Let's go to a story that Jesus told
00:47:16.406 --> 00:47:21.799
in Matthew 24, verses 1 to 14,
00:47:21.799 --> 00:47:26.488
Matthew 22, excuse me, verses 1 to 14,
00:47:26.488 --> 00:47:29.388
and let's look; Kylynda, maybe you
00:47:29.388 --> 00:47:31.418
could read it for us.
00:47:31.418 --> 00:47:32.991
You say, "What has this got to do
00:47:32.991 --> 00:47:34.213
with the love of God?"
00:47:34.213 --> 00:47:38.027
Well, let's listen, because apparently,
00:47:38.027 --> 00:47:40.492
lots of people are invited to a banquet.
00:47:40.492 --> 00:47:41.698
So, how does this story
00:47:41.698 --> 00:47:43.127
read in your Bible?
00:47:43.127 --> 00:47:44.425
(Kylynda) I will be reading
00:47:44.425 --> 00:47:46.219
from the New Living Translation:
00:49:23.069 --> 00:49:26.363
(Derek) Wow, that's a pretty intense
story.
00:49:26.363 --> 00:49:28.893
Why would the king, if he said,
00:49:28.893 --> 00:49:31.359
"Go find any," both good and?
00:49:31.359 --> 00:49:32.591
(Team) Bad.
00:49:32.591 --> 00:49:35.017
(Derek) So that would include us, right?
Praise God.
00:49:35.017 --> 00:49:36.562
Don't tell me which one you are,
00:49:36.562 --> 00:49:37.571
but we're all saved
00:49:37.571 --> 00:49:39.459
by the grace of God, right?
00:49:39.459 --> 00:49:41.290
We're saved by the grace of God.
00:49:41.290 --> 00:49:43.162
Why would the king be upset
00:49:43.162 --> 00:49:44.714
if one person didn't have
00:49:44.714 --> 00:49:46.828
a wedding garment on?
00:49:46.828 --> 00:49:49.828
The only logical conclusion is?
00:49:49.828 --> 00:49:50.954
(Sophia) He needed one.
00:49:50.954 --> 00:49:52.820
(Derek) Well, he obviously needed one.
00:49:52.820 --> 00:49:57.765
(Don) He needed to be really genuine
or to fully accept the invitation.
00:49:57.765 --> 00:50:01.370
(Derek) Who provided the wedding garment?
00:50:01.370 --> 00:50:03.281
(Travis) He was unwilling to put it on.
00:50:03.281 --> 00:50:04.465
(Derek) He was unwilling
00:50:04.465 --> 00:50:06.632
to put on a wedding garment
00:50:06.632 --> 00:50:09.957
that was provided!
00:50:09.957 --> 00:50:12.094
If he had said, "Well, I didn't have one.
00:50:12.094 --> 00:50:13.276
Nobody gave it; I stood
00:50:13.276 --> 00:50:14.638
in the wrong line."
00:50:14.638 --> 00:50:20.668
He's speechless because he's
without excuse.
00:50:20.668 --> 00:50:23.064
He's without excuse.
00:50:23.064 --> 00:50:27.301
The wedding garment, that righteousness
00:50:27.301 --> 00:50:31.451
which covers us, is a gift of God's grace.
00:50:31.451 --> 00:50:35.252
To show up thinking we're okay without it
00:50:35.252 --> 00:50:37.844
is a fatal mistake, right?
00:50:37.844 --> 00:50:40.041
So, what does this last verse mean
00:50:40.041 --> 00:50:43.186
in the story that Kylynda read?
00:50:43.186 --> 00:50:48.911
"Many are called, but few are chosen"?
00:50:48.911 --> 00:50:51.341
How many is the many who are called? Puia?
00:50:51.341 --> 00:50:52.363
(Puia) All.
00:50:52.363 --> 00:50:54.282
(Derek) It's everybody; how do you know?
00:50:54.282 --> 00:50:55.705
(Harold) Good and bad were...
00:50:55.705 --> 00:50:57.252
(Derek) Good and bad, everybody.
00:50:57.252 --> 00:50:59.031
Everybody is called.
00:50:59.031 --> 00:51:00.490
So, what does it mean?
00:51:00.490 --> 00:51:03.113
"Many are called, but..."?
00:51:03.113 --> 00:51:06.151
What does it mean, "Few are chosen"?
00:51:06.151 --> 00:51:08.301
(Samantha) Only those who accept
00:51:08.301 --> 00:51:10.310
that invitation and decide
00:51:10.310 --> 00:51:12.721
to receive God's grace will be able
00:51:12.721 --> 00:51:15.102
to enter into the Kingdom,
will be chosen to enter.
00:51:15.102 --> 00:51:16.871
(Derek) ...sounds like poor English,
00:51:16.871 --> 00:51:21.379
but those who choose to be chosen, right?
00:51:21.379 --> 00:51:24.430
Who wants to be chosen? Right?
00:51:24.430 --> 00:51:26.400
Everyone is given the invitation.
00:51:26.400 --> 00:51:28.990
The garment is provided.
00:51:28.990 --> 00:51:30.303
Some people don't even want
00:51:30.303 --> 00:51:32.300
to come, right?
00:51:32.300 --> 00:51:33.644
In fact, most of the people
00:51:33.644 --> 00:51:36.768
don't want to come.
00:51:36.768 --> 00:51:39.440
But then some show up
00:51:39.440 --> 00:51:42.479
without putting on the garment.
00:51:42.479 --> 00:51:44.248
We have a choice to make. Travis?
00:51:44.248 --> 00:51:45.632
(Travis) Interestingly, Jesus
00:51:45.632 --> 00:51:46.831
starts out the beatitudes
00:51:46.831 --> 00:51:48.403
in Matthew, chapter 5, verse 3,
00:51:48.403 --> 00:51:49.657
[by saying], "Blessed are
00:51:49.657 --> 00:51:51.502
the poor in spirit," those who realize
00:51:51.502 --> 00:51:54.243
their brokenness, "for theirs is
00:51:54.243 --> 00:51:55.358
the Kingdom of Heaven."
00:51:55.358 --> 00:51:56.357
(Derek) Praise God.
00:51:56.357 --> 00:51:57.709
So, I'm going to have you do
00:51:57.709 --> 00:51:59.213
a little computer scan.
00:51:59.213 --> 00:52:01.068
I want our remotes to be engaged here,
00:52:01.068 --> 00:52:03.361
I'm going to ask you to be involved
in that.
00:52:03.361 --> 00:52:05.560
Can you think of someone
00:52:05.560 --> 00:52:08.883
who received an unexpected invitation
00:52:08.883 --> 00:52:10.314
to be part of the banquet -
00:52:10.314 --> 00:52:11.371
which means to be part
00:52:11.371 --> 00:52:13.624
of God's eternal kingdom, and experience
00:52:13.624 --> 00:52:16.873
His immeasurable, unfailing love forever -
00:52:16.873 --> 00:52:18.130
someone who received
00:52:18.130 --> 00:52:22.120
an unexpected invitation and accepted it?!
00:52:22.120 --> 00:52:25.695
Someone share a story with me,
00:52:25.695 --> 00:52:27.045
unexpected invitation
00:52:27.045 --> 00:52:29.924
and accepted it. Yes, Puia.
00:52:29.924 --> 00:52:31.570
(Puia) It reminds me of Zacchaeus.
00:52:31.570 --> 00:52:32.838
(Derek) Okay, Zacchaeus,
00:52:32.838 --> 00:52:34.487
you don't need to read the story,
00:52:34.487 --> 00:52:36.078
but tell us; Zacchaeus was a...?
00:52:36.078 --> 00:52:37.138
(Puia) Tax collector.
00:52:37.138 --> 00:52:38.141
(Derek) Very wealthy.
00:52:38.141 --> 00:52:40.141
(Puia) And he probably didn't expect Jesus
00:52:40.141 --> 00:52:43.171
to even know his name or invite him,
00:52:43.171 --> 00:52:45.490
or, you know, dine with him.
00:52:45.490 --> 00:52:48.094
That story just came into my mind.
00:52:48.094 --> 00:52:50.981
(Derek) So, Luke 19, great story,
00:52:50.981 --> 00:52:52.935
"I'm going to eat at your house today,
00:52:52.935 --> 00:52:54.633
but more than that, salvation comes
00:52:54.633 --> 00:52:58.341
to this house today," right,
amazing story.
00:52:58.341 --> 00:53:00.949
Someone else, an unexpected invitation.
00:53:00.949 --> 00:53:04.608
I see Tricia Lee's hand raised.
Tricia Lee?
00:53:04.608 --> 00:53:05.828
(Tricia Lee) Yes, I think
00:53:05.828 --> 00:53:07.518
about the thief on the cross.
00:53:07.518 --> 00:53:10.294
He is guilty, and he is in the midst
00:53:10.294 --> 00:53:13.747
of being punished for his crime or crimes,
00:53:13.747 --> 00:53:16.823
and God extends salvation to him.
00:53:16.823 --> 00:53:19.394
He has no chance to come down and live
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a reformed life or do good things.
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It is simply the faith, grace, and mercy
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of God because we believe and know
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that He is saved still hanging
on that cross.
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(Derek) Beautiful. Wow, that's
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an amazing one.
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I see Gleny's hand raised, too.
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Gleny, somebody else that received
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an unexpected invitation to be part
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of this banquet which symbolizes
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the Kingdom and said, "Yes!"
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(Gleny) There's Matthew, who was
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a very bad candidate for being a disciple
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of Christ's because he was hated
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as a tax collector, but he accepted
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the invitation to follow Christ.
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(Derek) Yeah, I hope that Matthew
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and Zacchaeus got to be good friends,
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you know, both tax collectors. Sophia.
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(Sophia) Paul.
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(Derek) Saul of Tarsus, what was he doing
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before he accepted the invitation?
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(Sophia) Persecuting Christians,
killing them.
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(Derek) Persecuting Christians!
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Killing people, forcing them to blaspheme
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the name of Jesus!
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And he gets an invitation.
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Where was he when he got the invitation?
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On the Damascus road, and when he
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got to Damascus, he gets the invitation,
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and he says, "Yes."
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Now, tragically, I wish we
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could just end there,
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but remember there's a choice.
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So, someone, you're watching,
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and you're going, "But you're saying
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people could say no.
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Maybe everybody will be saved."
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Can you think of someone who received
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a surprise invitation and said no?
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(Samantha) The rich young ruler.
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(Derek) Alright, Samantha mentioned
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the rich young ruler who Jesus says,
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"Get rid of the stuff
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that's getting in the way and follow Me,"
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and he walked away.
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Anybody else? Yes, Harold.
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(Harold) Judas Iscariot, unfortunately.
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(Derek) After being one
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of the close team members of Jesus,
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Judas Iscariot rejected the invitation.
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And, of course,
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there's a shocking realization
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that when we walk away
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from the love of God,
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there is no hope, there really isn't.
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And tragically, he hangs himself.
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But the love of God gives us
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a reason to live.
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What's the most important lesson
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you've learned in our study today?
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We've got a few seconds to wrap up.
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Most important lesson, anybody. Puia.
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(Puia) God is faithful even when we
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are not faithful.
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(Derek) But we can then choose...
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(Puia) To be faithful.
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(Derek) ...and to receive His love.
Yes, Samantha.
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(Samantha) God's love knows no bounds.
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(Derek) It knows no bounds.
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What's its only limit?
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(James) Us.
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(Derek) Us, that's right, James.
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I want to appeal to you.
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We're starting a series
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on God's Love and Justice.
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I want to testify by the Word of God
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that Jesus loves you.
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He came to reveal the Father's love
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who has loved you
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since the foundation of the world.
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And He wants you to experience
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an intimate relationship with Him,
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to spend forever with Him.
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You say, "Derek, you don't know
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the things I've done."
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It doesn't matter what you've done;
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He can cleanse you, forgive you
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of your sin, and give you
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the gift of eternal life.
00:56:31.313 --> 00:56:32.422
I want to appeal to you
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to accept His love today.
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You say, "Derek, I did that long ago."
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Then, would you tell someone around you?
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Would you tell someone who needs to know
00:56:40.497 --> 00:56:43.438
really what God is like?
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Let's pray together.
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Father in Heaven,
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we're just starting this journey,
00:56:47.585 --> 00:56:49.597
studying about Your love and justice.
00:56:49.597 --> 00:56:52.007
And I pray that Your Holy Spirit
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would give supernatural revelation,
00:56:54.417 --> 00:56:56.893
even as a result of this study,
00:56:56.893 --> 00:56:59.530
of Your beautiful character of love,
00:56:59.530 --> 00:57:01.787
that You will never stop loving us.
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May we open our hearts to receive
00:57:03.505 --> 00:57:05.257
Your love, even today.
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In Jesus' name. Amen.
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(Team) Amen.
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(Derek) Thanks for joining us
00:57:09.617 --> 00:57:10.774
for Hope Sabbath School.
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This is going to be an amazing journey.
00:57:13.395 --> 00:57:15.175
You say, "Derek, it's going to change
00:57:15.175 --> 00:57:17.197
my picture of God." Praise God!
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See God for the awesome loving God
00:57:19.663 --> 00:57:20.810
that He really is.
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And, friend, don't keep
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that good news to yourself.
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Go out and be a blessing
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to those around you.
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