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(Derek) Welcome to Hope Sabbath School,
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an in-depth, interactive study
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of the Word of God.
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I am excited today as we begin
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a brand new series
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on God's Love and Justice.
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In fact, I feel like we are walking
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on holy ground, and I'm glad
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that you joined us as we talk
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about a God who loves freely.
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So, welcome to Hope Sabbath School
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and welcome to the team,
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good to see you all.
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Thanks for being here.
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We've got some remote team members
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with us, too; let's take a look
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and see who's joining us remotely today.
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Faith, good to see you,
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glad you're with us.
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Tricia Lee, welcome back,
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always good to see you.
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And, Gleny, great
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to have you with us today.
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We're so glad that you're with us, too,
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because you're part
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of our global interactive study together.
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And we're always happy to hear from you,
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our Hope Sabbath School members
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from around the world.
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You can write to us at sshope@hopetv.org.
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You say, "Derek, I've memorized that."
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Well, then send us a note
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and share with us how God is blessing you
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through a study of His Word.
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You say, "Derek, I'm actually teaching
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a class; I'm downloading the outline
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from the website, and I'm sharing
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the Word of God; praise God.
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Write to us and let us know.
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Here's a note from Kyrol
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who writes to us from Papua New Guinea,
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and he says, "I'm truly blessed
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every Sabbath since I started watching
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Hope Sabbath School
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through YouTube last year."
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Well, I don't know.
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It's always dangerous to say
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how many subscribers we have.
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It's close to [120,000],
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but probably that will be out of date,
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Travis, by the next time we read it.
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But one of them is Kyrol
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in Papua New Guinea; isn't that awesome?
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(Team) Praise God.
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(Derek) "I've watched every Sabbath
morning
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before I go to Bible study.
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Glory, honor and praise be to God
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for the Hope Sabbath School team."
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And we say? Praise God, right?
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"May God continue to bless
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and use all of you as His witnesses
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to share His amazing truths
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before Christ returns."
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What do we say?
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(Derek, Team) Amen.
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(Derek) Kyrol, thanks for writing to us
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from Papua New Guinea, and we're glad
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you are part of our global family.
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Well, Suwilanji writes to us from Zambia
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and says, "I am a Pentecostal preacher
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in Zambia, and I'm addicted
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to Hope Sabbath School."
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(Team) Wow.
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(Derek) Well, Suwilanji, thanks
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for writing to us.
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We're happy that you're sharing
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the gospel in your country
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and learning more about the Word of God
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on Hope Sabbath School.
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Thanks for your note.
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Here's a hand-written note
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from a donor in Maryland
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in the United States of America.
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For those of you who may not know,
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we actually film Hope Sabbath School
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in the state of Maryland.
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And the donor writes,
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"Hello, Hope Sabbath School."
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You know they do that
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so you'll wave, right?
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"I'm so happy to be with you once again
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to see your smiling faces,
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to be part of your interactive study
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that blesses my heart immensely.
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The study is so plain
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that even an 84-year-old
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like me can understand.
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The team members' testimonies
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are such a blessing to me.
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I thank God for the Hope
Sabbath School team
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spreading the gospel around the world.
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Enclosed is a small contribution,"
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the donor writes, but no donation is small
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when God blesses it,
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a donation of 50 dollars.
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Thank you so much, Donor in Maryland.
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You know who you are.
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And thanks to each one of you.
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We're a donor-supported minsitry.
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You say, "Derek, could I have a part?"
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Absolutely! Go to our website,
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hopetv.org/hopess,
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click on the yellow button
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and give online, or you get an address
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and write us a note
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just like this donor did.
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Thank you to each one
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for being part of this miracle.
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One last note, and I'm looking at Travis
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over here, Travis, because Nadine
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is writing from Guyana.
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So, I don't know if we can all
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give her a wave, but, Nadine, we want
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you to know one of our team members,
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Travis, was just in Guyana
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holding some meetings, and so that's
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a special place in [his] heart.
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"Thank you," Nadine writes,
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"for Hope Sabbath School.
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You are such a blessing to us.
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An interactive study of the Word of God
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helps me to have
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a closer relationship with Jesus."
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(Team) Amen.
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(Derek) That's why we do it!
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You know, the demons know a lot
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about the Bible, and people
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could win a Bible quiz and be lost.
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But when you study the Bible and have
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a closer relationship with Jesus,
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that's eternal salvation, isn't it?
Awesome.
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"May God continue to bless you all.
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We love you all. Nadine."
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Well, Nadine, thanks for writing to us,
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and I'm excited that you are all part
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of our global family.
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We would love to hear
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from you, so, write to us.
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I noticed a lot of you put comments
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on the YouTube channel when you watch,
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and that's great, too, but you can
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also write to us at sshope@hopetv.org.
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Well, today we're going to learn
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a new theme song.
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It is 3,000 years old.
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We sing Scripture songs here
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on Hope Sabbath School.
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It is Psalm 63, and it says,
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"O God, You are my God;
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early will I seek You,"
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but we lost the tune somewhere
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in the last 3,000 years,
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so my wife put a new tune to it.
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And you can go to our website
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and download the song free
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and the sheet music, if you'd like
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to sing it in your Bible study group.
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Just go to hopetv.org/hopess,
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that's our web address,
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and you can download the song,
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sheet music, and sing it.
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We'd like to teach it to you right now.
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♪ music ♪
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(Derek) Amen? Wow, that was beautiful.
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I hear you sing, too.
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You say, "Derek, you couldn't hear us,"
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but I was just imagining you singing.
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And I just want to challenge us
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with the thought, when the enemy
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comes upon us like a flood,
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we just sing that song, "O God,
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You are my God;
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early will I seek You," right?
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We can run to God, a God
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of love and mercy who will welcome us
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with loving arms.
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Well, great to see
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our remotes singing, too.
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I know we can't see you all,
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but you're singing the Word, too,
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and we're hiding that Word in our hearts.
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Today, we're going to study
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how God Loves Freely.
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It's an amazing study, and we invite you
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to pray with us as we
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open the Word of God.
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Father in Heaven, thank You
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for the revelation in the Word of God.
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The Scripture is given
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by inspiration of God
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and is profitable for us.
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Guide us in our interactive study today
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by your Holy Spirit.
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We pray in Jesus' name. Amen.
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(Team) Amen.
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(Derek) Well, we're going to start
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in the book of Exodus,
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that's the second book
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of the Hebrew Scriptures, the second book
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of the Pentateuch as it's called.
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In Exodus, chapter 33, and, Puia,
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I'm going to ask you to begin our study
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today by reading verses 12 to 19.
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I want to invite you and those joining
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around the world to listen
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to what revelation we see
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of the character of God,
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(Puia) Sure, and I'll be reading
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from the New King James Version,
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Exodus 33, verses 12 to 19:
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(Derek) Wow, that is amazing dialogue
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between the Lord and Moses.
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What are some lessons we can learn
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just from hearing it if we
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just had that one Scripture?
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What could we learn
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about the character of God? Kylynda?
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(Kylynda) God wants to be with us.
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(Derek) So, He's a relational God,
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which, by the way, we ought not to take
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for granted because a lot of pictures
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of God are like, "Well, He did something,
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and then He left." Harold?
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(Harold) Very personable, because you
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can talk to Him as a Person.
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(Derek) He wants a relationship,
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and He's communicating.
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Alright. Yes, James.
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(James) He is a God of companionship.
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Moses asked for a companion,
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and God said, "I will be your Companion."
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(Derek) "I will go
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with you," that's right.
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Gleny, what do you hear in this text
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that impresses you
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about the character of God?
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(Gleny) Besides all that was mentioned,
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we see that He is good,
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He shows a lot of compassion,
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and He desires to be known.
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(Derek) Alright, that's a good point
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His goodness, don't take that
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for granted, you know?
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It's that God is good.
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He wants a relationship with us. Don?
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(Don) Also with the first text,
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"I know you by your name."
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(Derek) Thank you for pointing that out.
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So, talk about companionship
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but not just with Moses, He wants
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a personal relationship with us.
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Sophia, if you could go back one chapter
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with us, take us back to Exodus 32
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and read the first three verses.
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Let's have a little context.
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God is saying, "I want a relationship
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with you; I want to show
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My compassion and love."
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Let's see what's just happened
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as part of the exodus.
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(Sophia) I'll be reading
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from the New King James Version,
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chapter 32, verses 1 through 3:
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(Derek) And what did they do with that,
anybody remember?
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(Team) Golden calf.
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(Derek) They made a golden calf!
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And not only did they make a golden calf,
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but what did they say?
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(Sophia) "This is our god."
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(Derek) That, "you're the god that brought
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us out of Egypt"!
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I mean, it's like, terrible!
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And yet, in the context of that,
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God shows His love.
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Now, I want to ask Tricia Lee a question.
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Tricia Lee, we always appreciate
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hearing from you.
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Tricia Lee, it says, "I will
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have compassion on whom I
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will have compassion,"
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but tell me somewhere else
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in the Scripture, how many people
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does God have compassion on?
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(Tricia Lee) God has compassion
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on all people; we know that
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from John, chapter 3, verse 16.
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(Derek) And what does it say there?
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Have you memorized it?
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(Tricia Lee) It says, "For God
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so loved the world that He gave
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His only begotten Son, that whosoever
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believes in Him should not perish
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but have everlasting life."
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(Derek) So, I just don't want a person
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to say, "Well, I guess He has compassion
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on the ones," and then pick
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a few here and have compassion on them.
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As Tricia Lee quoted (I think she's got
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another comment to share),
"God so loved..."?
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(Team) "...the world."
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(Derek) Right. You want to add to that?
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(Tricia Lee) When I think about that verse
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in Exodus, "I'll have compassion
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on whom I'll have compassion,"
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" I will be gracious
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to whom I will be gracious," I think
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about it in the context
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of the immediate request that Moses
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made to God where he said,
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"Show me Your glory."
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And we know that no one can see God's face
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or His full glory and live, and so I think
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that was just God responding and saying,
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"Yes, I will be gracious in showing you
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who I am, and I will be
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compassionate enough to let you survive
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this encounter and experience with Me."
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I think it was just more God expressing
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that in this request, "Show me Your face,
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show me Your glory," that He was saying,
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"Yes, I can answer and honor
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that special request for you, Moses."
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(Derek) Well, with such an amazing view -
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and, Travis, I want to hear your point -
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with such an amazing view
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of the character of God loving the world,
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why are there so many people
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with distorted views
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of the character of God?
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If you want, make your comment first,
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Travis, and then build on that question.
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(Travis) So, when I read those verses,
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and I read that God would be gracious
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to whom He would be gracious,
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I immediately thought there are people
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in the world that we may see that we
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would believe shouldn't be extended grace.
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And then I remembered, anyone who calls
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on the name of the Lord shall be saved.
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And I think the reason that that was
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written in there is that we may
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in our human minds believe that a person
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shouldn't be extended grace.
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But God says, "I will have compassion
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on whom I will have compassion."
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(Derek) Wow, so people that we
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may not think deserve...
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That could have been us at some point
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in our lives, right? Samantha?
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(Samantha) To answer your question
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about why people have...
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(Derek) Distorted views?
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(Samantha) Yes, I feel like it's
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just what the devil does.
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He tries to discredit who God is,
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and so he puts the wrong thoughts
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of God in peoples' minds.
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Instead of having them believe
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that, "Okay, yes," he has them think,
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"Why would a loving God cause
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your family member to die?"
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"Why would a loving God cause
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your wife to become sick?"
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And so, I feel like it just all a part
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of that Great Controversy where Satan
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tries to discredit who God is.
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And people who do not have
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that full understanding of Him, it's easy
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because if you don't have
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that full armor, then you can easily fall
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for anything that the devil brings to you.
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(Derek) And unfortunately, if you
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look, for example...
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And I see Gleny's hand and Kylynda's, too,
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and Harold; there are lots
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of hands raised here.
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Unfortunately, if you look
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at medieval art, you know, God looks
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like a horrible Person, and He's
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just trying to torture people,
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so it's not just in my imagination.
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There have been people teaching
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false ideas about the character of God.
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I'm going to take the hands,
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and we're going to move on.
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Kylynda, Gleny and Harold.
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(Kylynda) To go off what you said, Derek,
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in the end of Luke 11, Jesus
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critiques the religious leaders,
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and He says, "You know, you're
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overburdening people, you're making God
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seem like a tyrant that's only concerned
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about the smallest external effects,
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not the internal transformation."
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So some of our perception of God
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can, unfortunately, be distorted
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by different religious leaders
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or religious mentors who portray God
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in a way that isn't compassionate,
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that isn't relational.
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(Derek) False teaching.
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Gleny and then Harold.
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(Gleny) Yes, I just wanted to support
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Kylynda's point, too.
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You have your early caregivers,
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like maybe even your parents, teachers,
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as you had mentioned, people who are
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set up to give a representation of God,
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a good example of God, but somehow failed.
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And that makes you wonder, "If the people
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I looked up to had inflicted
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and caused so much pain,
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then God must be the same, too."
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(Derek) Ahh. Harold?
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(Harold) And I just want to add,
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because, yes, the issue of suffering
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and evil are some of the biggest questions
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that everybody has, even atheists have.
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It's like, how can a loving God reconcile
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the suffering that is in the world?
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But we cannot forget that our God
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also suffered with us.
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He is not indifferent to our suffering.
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Now, as to why He allows suffering,
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many times we do not know,
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but He does give us the courage
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because He suffered with us,
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and He tells us, "I'll be with you.
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I will give you the strength
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that you'll need to go through this,"
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and eventually we'll know the truth.
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There is a battle behind the scenes
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in the spiritual realm, and God
will give us the answer.
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(Derek) Do you know the amount -
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and we're going to move on -
but the amount
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of interaction right now - and it's
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like I said, there are 11 of us
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on the team and 14 hands raised -
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shows that this is really,
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we have an expression in English,
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like a hot-button issue.
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People are like, "What is
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the character of God like?"
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We start with a clear revelation
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that God is good, He wants
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a personal relationship,
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He knows us by name,
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and He loves the whole world.
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Now, before we come back to talk
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about how we can show that to the world,
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because there is a lot of distortion,
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let's think about some stories
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in the Bible which show God's love
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for people who either ignore
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or don't appreciate His love.
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Because you said He loves
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even the unworthy people, right?
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Can anybody think of a story?
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Don, can you think of a story?
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(Don) This reminds me of the Prodigal Son.
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The Prodigal Son when he [told] his dad,
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or his father, "Give me my inheritance,"
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but the problem was he
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squandered it all, right?
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But if we compare this to God's love,
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God's love is steadfast.
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His love remains toward us.
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(Derek) But in that same story,
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when he does come home,
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how does the father respond?
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(Don) He accepts him back fully.
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(Derek) What does he do?
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(Team Member) Throws a feast.
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(Derek) He throws his arms around him,
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he kisses him on the neck,
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he throws a party for him.
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And by the way, I don't know about you,
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but some people say, "Oh,
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terrible Prodigal Son," but the son
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that stayed home wasn't very nice,
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and yet the father loved him, too, right?
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Anybody else, think of a story,
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Tricia Lee, a story where it's obvious
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that God is showing love
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even to the people that may
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ignore His love or not welcome His love.
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(Tricia Lee) I think
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about an Old Testament story,
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the story of the people of Nineveh
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of this Assyrian Empire.
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They were known for being very violent
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and cruel, not just to others they
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were conquering but also to themselves.
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And God sent a prophet to warn them
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to correct their ways,
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and he traveled over a whole sea,
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took a ship to reach them,
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But He loved them enough to send them
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a warning message and give them
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an opportunity to change their ways,
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which they did take advantage of.
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And I thought that was an act of love.
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He didn't just leave them
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to just destroy themselves,
or destroy them
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without a warning, but He gave them
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an opportunity to really realize,
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"You can do better; you can live better."
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(Derek) So, He shows love to them
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even though the prophet Jonah
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complained about it, like, "God,
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You're really too loving."
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It would be easy to talk
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about the Ninevites who were very violent,
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like Tricia Lee mentioned,
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but actually His own people,
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the children of Israel,
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were very wayward, too.
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I want someone to summarize the mission
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of the prophet Hosea,
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what God asked him to do,
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and what was God trying to teach
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about the extent of His love?
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Anybody want to try a summary? Kylynda.
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(Kylynda) Hosea was a prophet
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for the children of Israel in a time
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when they were often backsliding from God.
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So God [told] the prophet, "I want you
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to marry a woman that you know
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will be unfaithful to you."
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00:24:06,063 --> 00:24:06,855
(Derek) Ouch!
543
00:24:06,855 --> 00:24:09,996
(Kylynda) Right? Quite harsh, but Hosea
544
00:24:09,996 --> 00:24:11,347
follows God's command.
545
00:24:11,347 --> 00:24:12,464
He marries Gomer,
546
00:24:12,464 --> 00:24:15,178
and what happens, happens.
547
00:24:15,178 --> 00:24:17,756
She has multiple children;
548
00:24:17,756 --> 00:24:18,982
they're not Hosea's.
549
00:24:18,982 --> 00:24:21,217
Hosea gives them names that indicate
550
00:24:21,217 --> 00:24:22,506
this kind of separation
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00:24:22,506 --> 00:24:24,249
between God and His people,
552
00:24:24,249 --> 00:24:27,944
like a child named "Not My People."
553
00:24:27,944 --> 00:24:30,190
And eventually, even though it's
554
00:24:30,190 --> 00:24:33,236
not quite clear in the Bible, Gomer
555
00:24:33,236 --> 00:24:35,800
falls into slavery; it's implicated
556
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,523
that this [is of] a sexual nature.
557
00:24:38,523 --> 00:24:43,019
And God says, "Go back to her, be faithful
to her even though she's
558
00:24:43,019 --> 00:24:44,230
not faithful to you."
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00:24:44,230 --> 00:24:45,545
(Derek) Doesn't he have
560
00:24:45,545 --> 00:24:46,977
to actually purchase her back?
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00:24:46,977 --> 00:24:49,441
(Kylynda) He redeems her from slavery
with money.
562
00:24:49,441 --> 00:24:50,657
(Derek) Is that a picture
563
00:24:50,657 --> 00:24:51,595
of the love of God?
564
00:24:51,595 --> 00:24:53,032
I hope you're listening today,
565
00:24:53,032 --> 00:24:53,987
that God loves us
566
00:24:53,987 --> 00:24:56,561
with an immeasurable and unfailing love.
567
00:24:56,561 --> 00:24:58,628
But just telling that story,
568
00:24:58,628 --> 00:25:01,754
putting ourselves as a spouse,
569
00:25:01,754 --> 00:25:03,827
whether a husband or a wife,
570
00:25:03,827 --> 00:25:06,928
with an unfaithful spouse,
571
00:25:06,928 --> 00:25:10,789
it would be easy for us to say what?
572
00:25:10,789 --> 00:25:13,366
"I'm done. I'm done," right?
573
00:25:13,366 --> 00:25:14,578
(Don) Ready to separate.
574
00:25:14,578 --> 00:25:16,597
(Derek) Right, but God continues,
575
00:25:16,597 --> 00:25:19,002
and you're saying, even when she's
576
00:25:19,002 --> 00:25:21,738
in some kind of enslaved situation.
577
00:25:21,738 --> 00:25:23,270
(Kylynda) Yes, Hosea goes back.
578
00:25:23,270 --> 00:25:25,912
He redeems her; he purchases her debt,
579
00:25:25,912 --> 00:25:28,503
and he loves her, and he says,
580
00:25:28,503 --> 00:25:29,922
"What's past is past.
581
00:25:29,922 --> 00:25:31,842
Now we'll be faithful to each other.
582
00:25:31,842 --> 00:25:33,422
You'll be faithful."
583
00:25:33,422 --> 00:25:35,053
(Derek) So, I'm going to ask James
584
00:25:35,053 --> 00:25:37,679
to take us to that little book of Hosea,
585
00:25:37,679 --> 00:25:40,903
to chapter 14, because there is
586
00:25:40,903 --> 00:25:46,195
a beautiful revelation, again,
587
00:25:46,195 --> 00:25:49,384
as Sophia read with the Exodus revelation,
588
00:25:49,384 --> 00:25:50,906
they had just been dancing naked
589
00:25:50,906 --> 00:25:52,753
around a golden calf and calling it
590
00:25:52,753 --> 00:25:55,214
the god that delivered them.
591
00:25:55,214 --> 00:25:59,848
And here, waywardness typified
592
00:25:59,848 --> 00:26:02,997
by Gomer's behavior, let's see
593
00:26:02,997 --> 00:26:06,539
how the Lord speaks in chapter 14
594
00:26:06,539 --> 00:26:08,425
of Hosea, verses 1 to 4.
595
00:26:08,425 --> 00:26:10,026
(James) Sure, and I'll be reading
596
00:26:10,026 --> 00:26:11,933
from the New King James Version:
597
00:26:56,637 --> 00:26:57,854
(Derek) What do you think
598
00:26:57,854 --> 00:27:03,657
about that immeasurable, unfailing love
599
00:27:03,657 --> 00:27:06,778
of God even with such waywardness?
Sophia?
600
00:27:06,778 --> 00:27:09,016
(Sophia) He's such a forgiving Person.
601
00:27:09,016 --> 00:27:10,581
(Derek) Yeah, forgiving.
602
00:27:10,581 --> 00:27:12,353
(Sophia) Even when He was so angry,
603
00:27:12,353 --> 00:27:14,161
you know, cast them away from Himself.
604
00:27:14,161 --> 00:27:16,286
(Derek) Is it okay to be angry
605
00:27:16,286 --> 00:27:18,485
when things like that happen?
606
00:27:18,485 --> 00:27:20,445
Doesn't Scripture say, "Be angry and..."?
607
00:27:20,445 --> 00:27:21,415
(Harold) Do not sin.
608
00:27:21,415 --> 00:27:22,916
(Derek) "Don't sin," right?
609
00:27:22,916 --> 00:27:25,083
So, there's every reason to be angry.
610
00:27:25,083 --> 00:27:29,605
Actually, not so much angry at the person,
611
00:27:29,605 --> 00:27:32,667
but angry at what sin is doing
612
00:27:32,667 --> 00:27:36,341
to damage someone that you love, right?
613
00:27:36,341 --> 00:27:38,477
"I will heal their backsliding.
614
00:27:38,477 --> 00:27:42,320
I will love them freely." Yes, Puia.
615
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:43,887
(Puia) A verse like this, Derek,
616
00:27:43,887 --> 00:27:46,496
gives me hope that there is forgiveness
617
00:27:46,496 --> 00:27:49,459
and a new start for everyone.
618
00:27:49,459 --> 00:27:51,504
There may be someone here
619
00:27:51,504 --> 00:27:52,998
listening or among us...
620
00:27:52,998 --> 00:27:55,477
You know, oftentimes we fall,
621
00:27:55,477 --> 00:27:57,272
and we make mistakes, and the guilt
622
00:27:57,272 --> 00:27:59,283
and shame that comes along with it
623
00:27:59,283 --> 00:28:01,080
is too much to bear for us.
624
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,201
But here we see God letting us know
625
00:28:04,201 --> 00:28:05,987
that, "I will heal you.
626
00:28:05,987 --> 00:28:07,181
You can have a new start,
627
00:28:07,181 --> 00:28:09,221
a new beginning," what a hope.
628
00:28:09,221 --> 00:28:11,252
(Derek) I'm going to ask Faith a question.
629
00:28:11,252 --> 00:28:15,885
Faith, did you grow up...
630
00:28:15,885 --> 00:28:17,612
I don't know the answer, by the way,
631
00:28:17,612 --> 00:28:19,806
so there's no right or wrong answer,
632
00:28:19,806 --> 00:28:22,700
but did you grow up with that perspective
633
00:28:22,700 --> 00:28:25,772
of the love of God, that even when we
634
00:28:25,772 --> 00:28:29,920
make terrible choices like Gomer made,
635
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,450
right, like the children of Israel made
636
00:28:32,450 --> 00:28:34,791
at various times, that God was
637
00:28:34,791 --> 00:28:36,947
relentless in His pursuit
638
00:28:36,947 --> 00:28:38,279
of them to love them?
639
00:28:38,279 --> 00:28:40,265
Did you grow up with that kind of picture
640
00:28:40,265 --> 00:28:41,479
of the love of God?
641
00:28:41,479 --> 00:28:43,676
(Faith) Yes, I think that picture
642
00:28:43,676 --> 00:28:46,339
was also shown in my parents.
643
00:28:46,339 --> 00:28:49,882
Obviously they disciplined, but they
644
00:28:49,882 --> 00:28:53,399
taught us, and they continued to pursue us
645
00:28:53,399 --> 00:28:55,962
to steer us in the right direction
646
00:28:55,962 --> 00:28:57,605
and guide us and say, "Oh, this is
647
00:28:57,605 --> 00:28:58,894
the right thing to do,"
648
00:28:58,894 --> 00:29:00,820
and never give up on us.
649
00:29:00,820 --> 00:29:02,581
And I think as I got older,
650
00:29:02,581 --> 00:29:05,583
and now I'm in college, I have
651
00:29:05,583 --> 00:29:07,920
a big community, and I also continue
652
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,149
to read the Bible daily, which allows me
653
00:29:10,149 --> 00:29:12,394
to see that God won't give up.
654
00:29:12,394 --> 00:29:15,219
And it's like Puia was saying,
655
00:29:15,219 --> 00:29:18,349
you have that shame and guilt,
656
00:29:18,349 --> 00:29:20,283
but you've got to make sure you
657
00:29:20,283 --> 00:29:21,659
go directly to God,
658
00:29:21,659 --> 00:29:23,299
and you don't sit in that.
659
00:29:23,299 --> 00:29:24,469
So, yeah, I did grow up
660
00:29:24,469 --> 00:29:26,485
with that picture of God.
661
00:29:26,485 --> 00:29:27,689
(Derek) Thank you so much
662
00:29:27,689 --> 00:29:28,864
for sharing that, Faith.
663
00:29:28,864 --> 00:29:31,394
This leads me to a question,
664
00:29:31,394 --> 00:29:32,980
an interaction question for us,
665
00:29:32,980 --> 00:29:35,372
because Faith said she saw that
666
00:29:35,372 --> 00:29:37,369
revealed in her parents, right?
667
00:29:37,369 --> 00:29:39,678
So, the question I wanted to ask,
668
00:29:39,678 --> 00:29:41,988
and I think this is a good time:
669
00:29:41,988 --> 00:29:45,287
With so many distortions
670
00:29:45,287 --> 00:29:46,592
of the character of God -
671
00:29:46,592 --> 00:29:47,860
and we see God here,
672
00:29:47,860 --> 00:29:51,033
loving freely, relentlessly -
673
00:29:51,033 --> 00:29:53,182
how can we help, Harold,
674
00:29:53,182 --> 00:29:55,156
how can we help people
675
00:29:55,156 --> 00:29:57,094
to see a clearer revelation
676
00:29:57,094 --> 00:29:58,634
of the character of God?
677
00:29:58,634 --> 00:30:00,687
(Harold) Well, in my case, I believe
678
00:30:00,687 --> 00:30:01,957
that you need to meet them
679
00:30:01,957 --> 00:30:04,603
where they're at, reflect God's character.
680
00:30:04,603 --> 00:30:06,713
If they need a companion, be there.
681
00:30:06,713 --> 00:30:08,397
If they need help, provide the help
682
00:30:08,397 --> 00:30:10,018
that they need, because at the end
683
00:30:10,018 --> 00:30:12,362
of the day, we are ambassadors of Christ.
684
00:30:12,362 --> 00:30:14,032
We are to represent Him.
685
00:30:14,032 --> 00:30:16,450
And even Paul says, "The only reason
686
00:30:16,450 --> 00:30:18,838
why the Gentiles blaspheme the name of God
687
00:30:18,838 --> 00:30:22,048
is because of you, of your example,
688
00:30:22,048 --> 00:30:24,058
because you do things, you're hypocrites."
689
00:30:24,058 --> 00:30:25,895
We're all hypocrites; I've been there.
690
00:30:25,895 --> 00:30:27,824
(Derek) ...a personal question, Harold,
691
00:30:27,824 --> 00:30:29,460
because I know you didn't grow up
692
00:30:29,460 --> 00:30:31,490
in a very strong Christian family.
693
00:30:31,490 --> 00:30:35,759
So, who helped you - because some people
694
00:30:35,759 --> 00:30:37,611
have heard a little of your testimony,
695
00:30:37,611 --> 00:30:40,409
it's quite amazing - but who helped you
696
00:30:40,409 --> 00:30:43,438
to see that revelation of a God
697
00:30:43,438 --> 00:30:45,037
who loves freely?
698
00:30:45,037 --> 00:30:47,411
(Harold) Well, it took, after I was
699
00:30:47,411 --> 00:30:49,529
introduced to God, maybe 15 years later.
700
00:30:49,529 --> 00:30:50,689
It was a friend of mine
701
00:30:50,689 --> 00:30:52,467
in Rochester, New York.
702
00:30:52,467 --> 00:30:55,902
I never heard that representation of God
703
00:30:55,902 --> 00:30:57,878
the way she presented it to me.
704
00:30:57,878 --> 00:30:59,691
I mean, she was not perfect, you know,
705
00:30:59,691 --> 00:31:02,516
she had her flaws, yet all these years
706
00:31:02,516 --> 00:31:05,527
I thought God was very demanding,
707
00:31:05,527 --> 00:31:07,818
very vindictive, and I was
708
00:31:07,818 --> 00:31:08,910
always afraid of Him.
709
00:31:08,910 --> 00:31:09,960
But when she said,
710
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,730
"God is very compassionate.
711
00:31:11,730 --> 00:31:13,933
You can talk to Him as a friend,"...
712
00:31:13,933 --> 00:31:15,271
I always had to talk to Him,
713
00:31:15,271 --> 00:31:17,806
like, with this reverence of like,
714
00:31:17,806 --> 00:31:19,575
"Oh, yes, Sir," "No, Sir," but I talk
715
00:31:19,575 --> 00:31:21,075
to Him as a friend.
716
00:31:21,075 --> 00:31:24,516
And I believe that He can forgive.
717
00:31:24,516 --> 00:31:26,373
I did not believe He forgave, before.
718
00:31:26,373 --> 00:31:27,446
Even though I've heard
719
00:31:27,446 --> 00:31:28,787
the message of forgiveness,
720
00:31:28,787 --> 00:31:30,569
I did not believe he actually forgave
721
00:31:30,569 --> 00:31:32,000
because I was too full of sin.
722
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,393
I thought I had to be perfect
723
00:31:33,393 --> 00:31:34,989
before I would present myself...
724
00:31:34,989 --> 00:31:36,754
(Derek) Accepted by Him.
725
00:31:36,754 --> 00:31:40,222
Gleny, I see your hand; how would you
726
00:31:40,222 --> 00:31:42,422
like to add to the discussion?
727
00:31:42,422 --> 00:31:44,476
(Gleny) As a therapist, I had been working
728
00:31:44,476 --> 00:31:46,925
with a client at a residential
729
00:31:46,925 --> 00:31:49,242
depression/anxiety recovery program,
730
00:31:49,242 --> 00:31:51,546
and he was so blown away,
731
00:31:51,546 --> 00:31:53,467
but also simultaneously confused
732
00:31:53,467 --> 00:31:55,040
with the compassion and love
733
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:56,879
he was experiencing around him.
734
00:31:56,879 --> 00:31:59,006
I remember he mentioned that he
735
00:31:59,006 --> 00:32:01,344
doesn't want to be like the people.
736
00:32:01,344 --> 00:32:03,357
He knew who would get so rigid
737
00:32:03,357 --> 00:32:05,082
and dictatorial when they would read
738
00:32:05,082 --> 00:32:07,294
the Word and understand God, and he said,
739
00:32:07,294 --> 00:32:09,547
"I just don't want to be like that."
740
00:32:09,547 --> 00:32:12,383
And I asked him, like, there are many
741
00:32:12,383 --> 00:32:13,864
of us who understand and read
742
00:32:13,864 --> 00:32:15,032
the Word of God; do you
743
00:32:15,032 --> 00:32:17,364
think that we are the same?
744
00:32:17,364 --> 00:32:19,509
And he said, "Oh, wait, that's right.
745
00:32:19,509 --> 00:32:22,246
You guys are some of the first people
746
00:32:22,246 --> 00:32:24,763
I've met who had a different response,
747
00:32:24,763 --> 00:32:27,469
actually a very positive response
748
00:32:27,469 --> 00:32:30,091
after intentionally learning about God."
749
00:32:30,091 --> 00:32:32,362
So, by their fruits, you shall know them.
750
00:32:32,362 --> 00:32:34,849
And he was drawn to God by the way
751
00:32:34,849 --> 00:32:36,692
we were working with him.
752
00:32:36,692 --> 00:32:38,336
(Derek) So, we're hearing a theme.
753
00:32:38,336 --> 00:32:39,556
Thank you so much, Gleny.
754
00:32:39,556 --> 00:32:41,283
We're hearing a theme that, with all
755
00:32:41,283 --> 00:32:42,050
of the confusion
756
00:32:42,050 --> 00:32:43,712
about the character of God
757
00:32:43,712 --> 00:32:46,663
that followers of God, you said,
758
00:32:46,663 --> 00:32:49,045
could actually be part of the problem.
759
00:32:49,045 --> 00:32:51,091
We could even have false teachers
760
00:32:51,091 --> 00:32:53,381
who are religious teachers, right,
761
00:32:53,381 --> 00:32:55,632
who give a confused picture of God.
762
00:32:55,632 --> 00:32:59,008
Or we can be a living example
of that. Travis.
763
00:32:59,008 --> 00:33:00,581
(Travis) Derek, one of the things
764
00:33:00,581 --> 00:33:01,978
that I've learned about being
765
00:33:01,978 --> 00:33:03,573
a powerful witness for Jesus
766
00:33:03,573 --> 00:33:05,991
is in Acts, chapter 1, verse 8,
767
00:33:05,991 --> 00:33:07,987
It says, "You will receive power
768
00:33:07,987 --> 00:33:09,912
to be my witnesses."
769
00:33:09,912 --> 00:33:12,253
And we're not that smart,
770
00:33:12,253 --> 00:33:14,362
and God will give us the power
771
00:33:14,362 --> 00:33:17,697
to be appropriate witnesses of the gospel.
772
00:33:17,697 --> 00:33:19,372
(Derek) So there is a revelation.
773
00:33:19,372 --> 00:33:21,404
I see Sophia, and then, Tricia Lee,
774
00:33:21,404 --> 00:33:22,761
I see your hand.
775
00:33:22,761 --> 00:33:24,150
(Sophia) Just the distortion
776
00:33:24,150 --> 00:33:25,482
of the character reminded me
777
00:33:25,482 --> 00:33:29,267
of the Puritans in 1600s America.
778
00:33:29,267 --> 00:33:31,865
They came to America to escape
779
00:33:31,865 --> 00:33:33,094
religious persecution,
780
00:33:33,094 --> 00:33:35,309
and right after they made their colony,
781
00:33:35,309 --> 00:33:36,431
they began to persecute
782
00:33:36,431 --> 00:33:37,812
everyone around them
783
00:33:37,812 --> 00:33:40,042
because of their strict
religious standards.
784
00:33:40,042 --> 00:33:41,654
(Derek) To be fair, we might say
785
00:33:41,654 --> 00:33:43,199
some of them began to persecute
786
00:33:43,199 --> 00:33:44,978
those around them because there were
787
00:33:44,978 --> 00:33:46,667
probably some who really did reveal
788
00:33:46,667 --> 00:33:47,998
the love of God, right?
789
00:33:47,998 --> 00:33:51,317
But it's easy for us to fall into that,
790
00:33:51,317 --> 00:33:54,823
that we don't reflect
791
00:33:54,823 --> 00:33:56,354
the immeasurable, unfailing love
792
00:33:56,354 --> 00:33:58,212
of God. Tricia Lee?
793
00:33:58,212 --> 00:33:59,760
(Tricia Lee) There's a Scripture
794
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,240
I'd like to share in Jeremiah,
795
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:08,094
chapter 32, verses 38 through 40.
796
00:34:08,094 --> 00:34:10,458
(Derek) What translation are
you reading from,?
797
00:34:10,458 --> 00:34:11,657
(Tricia Lee) I'm reading
798
00:34:11,657 --> 00:34:16,595
from the New King James Version,
and it reads:
799
00:34:50,093 --> 00:34:52,608
And "fear" being that loving respect.
800
00:34:52,608 --> 00:34:54,418
I love this Scripture because it
801
00:34:54,418 --> 00:34:57,619
reminds me of this idea of a covenant,
802
00:34:57,619 --> 00:34:59,690
and that that is what God's love is.
803
00:34:59,690 --> 00:35:02,213
And repeatedly in this passage He says,
804
00:35:02,213 --> 00:35:05,926
"I will, I will, I will."
805
00:35:05,926 --> 00:35:08,012
So often in our human experience,
806
00:35:08,012 --> 00:35:10,245
love is like a transaction,
807
00:35:10,245 --> 00:35:12,395
"I'll do this if you do that."
808
00:35:12,395 --> 00:35:13,476
"If you do this,
809
00:35:13,476 --> 00:35:15,234
then I'll always do this."
810
00:35:15,234 --> 00:35:17,436
But God's everlasting love
811
00:35:17,436 --> 00:35:19,331
is a covenant to us,
812
00:35:19,331 --> 00:35:21,726
that, no matter what we do,
813
00:35:21,726 --> 00:35:24,566
He will never stop loving us,
814
00:35:24,566 --> 00:35:26,442
and that He has committed
815
00:35:26,442 --> 00:35:28,141
to what He will do.
816
00:35:28,141 --> 00:35:30,022
And so, there are times where there are
817
00:35:30,022 --> 00:35:32,047
conditional promises and things like that,
818
00:35:32,047 --> 00:35:34,860
but His love is everlasting, and it's
819
00:35:34,860 --> 00:35:36,290
always a promise
820
00:35:36,290 --> 00:35:39,038
of "I will, I will, I will."
821
00:35:39,038 --> 00:35:41,104
And I think that's very different
822
00:35:41,104 --> 00:35:43,412
than how we treat each other.
823
00:35:43,412 --> 00:35:45,637
You know, you don't hear someone
824
00:35:45,637 --> 00:35:47,364
in a marriage ceremony saying,
825
00:35:47,364 --> 00:35:48,650
"I will do these things
826
00:35:48,650 --> 00:35:50,274
only if you do that."
827
00:35:50,274 --> 00:35:51,546
You always state your vows
828
00:35:51,546 --> 00:35:52,942
as what you're committing
829
00:35:52,942 --> 00:35:55,143
to that person, and in a way,
830
00:35:55,143 --> 00:35:56,479
this everlasting covenant is
831
00:35:56,479 --> 00:35:58,028
how God has committed
832
00:35:58,028 --> 00:36:02,457
His unfailing, immeasurable love to us.
833
00:36:02,457 --> 00:36:03,302
(Derek) Thank you
834
00:36:03,302 --> 00:36:05,175
so much for sharing that.
835
00:36:05,175 --> 00:36:06,736
There was a word that Tricia Lee
836
00:36:06,736 --> 00:36:08,382
was repeating over and over again
837
00:36:08,382 --> 00:36:09,920
that leads us into the next part
838
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,676
of our study, and that is
839
00:36:11,676 --> 00:36:13,771
the everlasting love of God.
840
00:36:13,771 --> 00:36:15,400
And I'd like someone to read
841
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:19,809
John 17 and verse 24.
842
00:36:19,809 --> 00:36:22,749
John 17, Faith, do you have that?
843
00:36:22,749 --> 00:36:25,650
John 17 and verse 24?
844
00:36:25,650 --> 00:36:28,274
Let's see what testimony Jesus gave
845
00:36:28,274 --> 00:36:30,797
regarding the everlasting love of God.
846
00:36:30,797 --> 00:36:32,126
(Faith) And I'll be reading
847
00:36:32,126 --> 00:36:33,660
from the New King James Version,
848
00:36:33,660 --> 00:36:36,549
John 17, verse 24:
849
00:36:51,878 --> 00:36:54,250
(Derek) Alright, so there's a revelation.
850
00:36:54,250 --> 00:36:55,418
You say, "Oh, no, that's
851
00:36:55,418 --> 00:36:59,549
just that the Father loved His Son
852
00:36:59,549 --> 00:37:01,511
before the foundation of the world."
853
00:37:01,511 --> 00:37:04,131
What evidence do you find, anybody,
854
00:37:04,131 --> 00:37:08,365
in the Scriptures that God's love for us
855
00:37:08,365 --> 00:37:10,590
is also everlasting?
856
00:37:10,590 --> 00:37:13,958
It's not bound by time, you know,
857
00:37:13,958 --> 00:37:15,310
kind of like a time clock,
858
00:37:15,310 --> 00:37:18,050
"You've got three years left," right,
859
00:37:18,050 --> 00:37:21,428
or three mistakes left, or something,
860
00:37:21,428 --> 00:37:22,996
but that it's everlasting.
861
00:37:22,996 --> 00:37:25,458
Jesus said, "The Father has loved Me
862
00:37:25,458 --> 00:37:27,471
since before the foundation of the world."
863
00:37:27,471 --> 00:37:31,468
Anybody think of a Bible text?
Yes, Samantha.
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00:37:31,468 --> 00:37:32,711
(Samantha) Well, I thought
865
00:37:32,711 --> 00:37:35,943
of Romans 8, verses 38 and 39.
866
00:37:35,943 --> 00:37:36,977
(Derek) Okay, give us
867
00:37:36,977 --> 00:37:38,263
a moment to find that.
868
00:37:38,263 --> 00:37:40,575
Romans, chapter 8?
869
00:37:40,575 --> 00:37:42,871
(Samantha) Verses 38 and 39.
870
00:37:42,871 --> 00:37:44,427
(Derek) And the letter
871
00:37:44,427 --> 00:37:47,335
to the Romans was written by?
872
00:37:47,335 --> 00:37:49,986
Anybody? The Apostle Paul, that's right.
873
00:37:49,986 --> 00:37:51,290
So, these are to Christians
874
00:37:51,290 --> 00:37:53,380
living in Rome, and you're reading
875
00:37:53,380 --> 00:37:55,145
verses 38 and 39.
876
00:37:55,145 --> 00:37:57,406
(Samantha) Yes, from the New
King James Version.
877
00:37:57,406 --> 00:37:58,485
(Derek) How does...?
878
00:37:58,485 --> 00:37:59,414
(Samantha) It says:
879
00:38:24,153 --> 00:38:26,059
(Derek) Somebody excited about that?
880
00:38:26,059 --> 00:38:27,791
That's pretty amazing, isn't it?
881
00:38:27,791 --> 00:38:30,120
Nothing can separate us. Puia.
882
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,788
(Puia) So, back to John 17:24
883
00:38:32,788 --> 00:38:34,787
that we read earlier, what I see here
884
00:38:34,787 --> 00:38:38,070
is that before creating the world,
885
00:38:38,070 --> 00:38:40,704
God had already enjoyed
886
00:38:40,704 --> 00:38:43,198
being in a relationship of love.
887
00:38:43,198 --> 00:38:44,431
So, in a sense, God
888
00:38:44,431 --> 00:38:46,246
didn't need to create us.
889
00:38:46,246 --> 00:38:51,330
He didn't owe us this existence, nor love.
890
00:38:51,330 --> 00:38:54,833
So this idea of God loving us freely,
891
00:38:54,833 --> 00:38:59,360
voluntarily, is all an act of sacrifice
892
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:03,613
in a way, and we don't deserve
893
00:39:03,613 --> 00:39:06,681
this level of love from God.
894
00:39:06,681 --> 00:39:10,833
(Derek) But it's who God is, right?
895
00:39:10,833 --> 00:39:13,617
Isn't there a text that says, "God is..."?
896
00:39:13,617 --> 00:39:16,486
(Derek, Team) "...love."
897
00:39:16,486 --> 00:39:18,029
(Derek) He doesn't just love,
898
00:39:18,029 --> 00:39:20,916
He does love, but He loves because it's...
899
00:39:20,916 --> 00:39:21,891
(Puia) His nature.
900
00:39:21,891 --> 00:39:23,036
(Derek) The very essence
901
00:39:23,036 --> 00:39:24,087
of who He is. Harold?
902
00:39:24,087 --> 00:39:25,587
(Harold) I was going to read...
903
00:39:25,587 --> 00:39:26,617
(Derek) Yes...
904
00:39:26,617 --> 00:39:30,115
(Harold) It's in Lamentations, chapter 3.
905
00:39:30,115 --> 00:39:31,753
(Derek) Lamentations doesn't sound
906
00:39:31,753 --> 00:39:34,234
like a very happy book, does it?
907
00:39:34,234 --> 00:39:36,746
But the prophet Jeremiah has
908
00:39:36,746 --> 00:39:38,530
a beautiful promise there.
909
00:39:38,530 --> 00:39:40,952
Lamentations, chapter 3 and verses?
910
00:39:40,952 --> 00:39:42,578
(Harold) 22 to 24.
911
00:39:42,578 --> 00:39:44,189
(Derek) 22 to 24, my wife
912
00:39:44,189 --> 00:39:46,912
likes to sing this, so how does that read?
913
00:39:46,912 --> 00:39:48,402
What translation are you...?
914
00:39:48,402 --> 00:39:49,568
(Harold) I'll be reading
915
00:39:49,568 --> 00:39:52,623
from the English Standard Version,
and it reads:
916
00:40:12,548 --> 00:40:13,964
(Derek) Beautiful, that's one
917
00:40:13,964 --> 00:40:15,639
of my favorite verses, by the way.
918
00:40:15,639 --> 00:40:18,475
And by the way, the context of that
919
00:40:18,475 --> 00:40:20,647
is not that everything is going perfectly.
920
00:40:20,647 --> 00:40:22,055
What's just happened?
921
00:40:22,055 --> 00:40:24,401
(Harold) The Israelites were
under captivity.
922
00:40:24,401 --> 00:40:26,658
(Derek) They had just been taken
into captivity.
923
00:40:26,658 --> 00:40:27,668
(Harold) To Babylon.
924
00:40:27,668 --> 00:40:29,504
(Derek) That's right, Daniel, Ezekiel,
925
00:40:29,504 --> 00:40:31,459
and all those prophets are there.
926
00:40:31,459 --> 00:40:33,284
Jeremiah is left in Jerusalem.
927
00:40:33,284 --> 00:40:39,143
It's been ransacked, and he's lamenting.
928
00:40:39,143 --> 00:40:41,257
But he says, "Through the Lord's mercies,"
929
00:40:41,257 --> 00:40:42,914
I'm quoting the New King James,
930
00:40:42,914 --> 00:40:45,215
"we are not consumed,
931
00:40:45,215 --> 00:40:47,113
because His compassions fail not."
932
00:40:47,113 --> 00:40:48,126
Thank you for sharing
933
00:40:48,126 --> 00:40:49,667
that text, beautiful. Yes, Don.
934
00:40:49,667 --> 00:40:52,575
(Don) Another unfailing love from God,
935
00:40:52,575 --> 00:40:55,891
if you'll allow me to read Isaiah 54?
936
00:40:55,891 --> 00:40:58,158
(Derek) Give us a chance to find it.
937
00:40:58,158 --> 00:40:59,018
(Don) I'm reading
938
00:40:59,018 --> 00:41:00,259
from the New King James.
939
00:41:00,259 --> 00:41:01,958
(Derek) Hold on just a minute then,
940
00:41:01,958 --> 00:41:05,466
"Eye-ZAY-ah" or "Eye-ZY-uh," chapter 54.
941
00:41:05,466 --> 00:41:06,535
(Don) Verse 10.
942
00:41:06,535 --> 00:41:07,706
(Derek) And verse 10,
943
00:41:07,706 --> 00:41:09,538
and what translation?
944
00:41:09,538 --> 00:41:10,540
(Don) New King James.
945
00:41:10,540 --> 00:41:11,732
(Derek) New King James,
946
00:41:11,732 --> 00:41:14,183
"Eye-ZAY-ah" or "Eye-ZY-uh," 54:10.
947
00:41:14,183 --> 00:41:15,328
(Don) And it says:
948
00:41:32,905 --> 00:41:34,497
(Derek) We could find many texts,
949
00:41:34,497 --> 00:41:37,505
I'm sure, in the Scripture that speak
950
00:41:37,505 --> 00:41:40,596
about the everlasting love of God,
951
00:41:40,596 --> 00:41:43,717
but one of the reasons
952
00:41:43,717 --> 00:41:46,955
that people struggle is because they've
953
00:41:46,955 --> 00:41:48,324
been in a relationship
954
00:41:48,324 --> 00:41:50,777
where love has failed.
955
00:41:50,777 --> 00:41:52,417
And they go, "Well, maybe God's
956
00:41:52,417 --> 00:41:53,494
just like that, too."
957
00:41:53,494 --> 00:41:55,096
"I thought it was
958
00:41:55,096 --> 00:41:58,632
a loving, safe environment."
959
00:41:58,632 --> 00:42:01,175
It may be a family member left,
960
00:42:01,175 --> 00:42:03,004
like a parent or a spouse
961
00:42:03,004 --> 00:42:05,198
or a close relationship,
962
00:42:05,198 --> 00:42:07,772
and it's like it's hard for us
963
00:42:07,772 --> 00:42:09,563
not to think, "Well, maybe God
964
00:42:09,563 --> 00:42:11,310
is that way, too."
965
00:42:11,310 --> 00:42:14,750
Anybody have an experience like that,
966
00:42:14,750 --> 00:42:21,558
yeah, challenged that, but somehow God
967
00:42:21,558 --> 00:42:23,473
made a clear picture that He
968
00:42:23,473 --> 00:42:26,931
would not abandon you that way?
969
00:42:26,931 --> 00:42:30,396
I don't know if anyone can relate to that.
970
00:42:30,396 --> 00:42:33,575
I see a couple of reticent hands going up.
971
00:42:33,575 --> 00:42:35,336
That's a tough question, isn't it,
972
00:42:35,336 --> 00:42:37,159
but could you see how that could...
973
00:42:37,159 --> 00:42:40,283
You know, daddy leaves, and it's like,
974
00:42:40,283 --> 00:42:41,859
"Well, maybe my heavenly Father
975
00:42:41,859 --> 00:42:44,071
is like that, too; maybe some day
976
00:42:44,071 --> 00:42:47,021
He will just stop being there," right?
977
00:42:47,021 --> 00:42:48,895
It's very real, isn't it? Harold?
978
00:42:48,895 --> 00:42:51,797
(Harold) Well, my father, it got
979
00:42:51,797 --> 00:42:53,019
to a point that I stopped
980
00:42:53,019 --> 00:42:55,120
calling him father.
981
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:56,831
He was a very angry person.
982
00:42:56,831 --> 00:42:58,595
He was a womanizer.
983
00:42:58,595 --> 00:42:59,753
We would go to the park,
984
00:42:59,753 --> 00:43:01,379
and he will tell me, "This will be
985
00:43:01,379 --> 00:43:04,720
your new mom," and I'm like, "Excuse me?"
986
00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:12,947
And I barely saw him, so...
987
00:43:12,947 --> 00:43:15,242
(Derek) It's hard.
988
00:43:15,242 --> 00:43:17,992
(Harold) It did hurt because I
989
00:43:17,992 --> 00:43:21,603
always wanted a father, and I want
990
00:43:21,603 --> 00:43:27,393
to be there for my daughter, too.
991
00:43:27,393 --> 00:43:29,994
Not to mention the family was not good
992
00:43:29,994 --> 00:43:33,939
because my mom also had her problems
993
00:43:33,939 --> 00:43:37,827
growing up, so I did feel alone,
994
00:43:37,827 --> 00:43:42,048
so, oh, I'm sorry.
995
00:43:42,048 --> 00:43:47,023
(James) It's alright, it's alright.
Tell your story.
996
00:43:47,023 --> 00:43:49,225
(Harold) I did feel alone.
997
00:43:49,225 --> 00:43:53,357
I didn't have the family that I wanted
998
00:43:53,357 --> 00:43:56,283
because I didn't have birthdays...
999
00:43:56,283 --> 00:43:59,899
Like, I got very indifferent about things
1000
00:43:59,899 --> 00:44:03,647
that people do as a family.
1001
00:44:03,647 --> 00:44:06,090
So, I just tried to protect myself
1002
00:44:06,090 --> 00:44:07,962
by trying to be indifferent
1003
00:44:07,962 --> 00:44:12,331
to these things so I could move on in life
1004
00:44:12,331 --> 00:44:14,452
because it's like, you know what, I cannot
1005
00:44:14,452 --> 00:44:16,964
allow these things to control me
1006
00:44:16,964 --> 00:44:19,279
or to dictate how I should live.
1007
00:44:19,279 --> 00:44:20,877
I need to do something.
1008
00:44:20,877 --> 00:44:23,898
So I do thank God that He did put people
1009
00:44:23,898 --> 00:44:26,550
along the way that started painting
1010
00:44:26,550 --> 00:44:29,767
this picture of God and trying to show me
1011
00:44:29,767 --> 00:44:31,625
who God really is.
1012
00:44:31,625 --> 00:44:33,119
And thankfully my mom,
1013
00:44:33,119 --> 00:44:34,612
even with her problems, she did
1014
00:44:34,612 --> 00:44:35,802
introduce me to the Bible
1015
00:44:35,802 --> 00:44:37,686
at a very young age.
1016
00:44:37,686 --> 00:44:40,371
So, I started reading and trying
1017
00:44:40,371 --> 00:44:43,228
to understand God from that angle.
1018
00:44:43,228 --> 00:44:46,755
So, then eventually, of course, I said,
1019
00:44:46,755 --> 00:44:48,636
like my friend from Rochester,
1020
00:44:48,636 --> 00:44:51,290
she eventually painted this bigger picture
1021
00:44:51,290 --> 00:44:53,230
of God to help me, like, "Oh, wow,
1022
00:44:53,230 --> 00:44:55,481
this is who God truly is;
1023
00:44:55,481 --> 00:44:56,985
I can call You my Father
1024
00:44:56,985 --> 00:44:59,173
because I always wanted a father,
1025
00:44:59,173 --> 00:45:01,070
but You are my Father that has been..."
1026
00:45:01,070 --> 00:45:03,018
Even though I did suffer, it was painful.
1027
00:45:03,018 --> 00:45:05,850
I did go through experiences that you
1028
00:45:05,850 --> 00:45:07,420
would think like, "Why would You
1029
00:45:07,420 --> 00:45:08,364
allow that, God?"
1030
00:45:08,364 --> 00:45:10,748
I mean it was done to me personally.
1031
00:45:10,748 --> 00:45:12,408
I mean, I cannot share
1032
00:45:12,408 --> 00:45:15,840
because of probably younger children,
1033
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,686
but it's like, sure, I did
1034
00:45:18,686 --> 00:45:20,630
go through this experience, but I
1035
00:45:20,630 --> 00:45:22,087
cannot blame God because I am
1036
00:45:22,087 --> 00:45:23,408
in a broken world.
1037
00:45:23,408 --> 00:45:24,825
There are so many distortions
1038
00:45:24,825 --> 00:45:28,125
of God in the world, but yet we are
1039
00:45:28,125 --> 00:45:30,065
accountable for these things.
1040
00:45:30,065 --> 00:45:31,709
We are accountable, and we need
1041
00:45:31,709 --> 00:45:33,049
to take responsibility.
1042
00:45:33,049 --> 00:45:35,657
I cannot always put the blame on God.
1043
00:45:35,657 --> 00:45:37,693
But at the end of the day, I do praise God
1044
00:45:37,693 --> 00:45:44,012
that I was able to find a loving wife,
1045
00:45:44,012 --> 00:45:46,787
my family, and I don't want
1046
00:45:46,787 --> 00:45:51,331
to live like that; I really hated it.
1047
00:45:51,331 --> 00:45:53,875
I just want to be there for Sophia.
1048
00:45:53,875 --> 00:45:57,091
I want to give her a good representation
1049
00:45:57,091 --> 00:46:00,414
of who God really is.
1050
00:46:00,414 --> 00:46:02,722
(Derek) That's beautiful, Harold.
1051
00:46:02,722 --> 00:46:05,045
For those of you who don't know,
1052
00:46:05,045 --> 00:46:06,946
Brittany, who is one of our team members
1053
00:46:06,946 --> 00:46:08,531
and actually will be teaching one
1054
00:46:08,531 --> 00:46:10,934
in this series, but Brittany and Harold
1055
00:46:10,934 --> 00:46:12,820
just had a beautiful little girl.
1056
00:46:12,820 --> 00:46:15,004
And the name Sophia was mentioned,
1057
00:46:15,004 --> 00:46:18,315
so I can repeat it publicly.
1058
00:46:18,315 --> 00:46:22,278
And I'm really blessed
1059
00:46:22,278 --> 00:46:25,222
by what Harold just shared, and that is,
1060
00:46:25,222 --> 00:46:28,267
"I want my little girl to see
1061
00:46:28,267 --> 00:46:30,132
a true representation of the character
1062
00:46:30,132 --> 00:46:32,577
of our loving heavenly Father," right?
1063
00:46:32,577 --> 00:46:33,316
(Harold) Amen.
1064
00:46:33,316 --> 00:46:35,287
(Derek) And whether we're a parent
1065
00:46:35,287 --> 00:46:39,462
or a friend, right, or a child
1066
00:46:39,462 --> 00:46:41,505
to a parent, we want to be
1067
00:46:41,505 --> 00:46:43,338
a living representation
1068
00:46:43,338 --> 00:46:44,897
of what the loving character
1069
00:46:44,897 --> 00:46:47,760
of God looks like.
1070
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,495
Whew, that's pretty intense,
1071
00:46:50,495 --> 00:46:52,645
but I need to move us on
1072
00:46:52,645 --> 00:46:54,547
to the last section,
1073
00:46:54,547 --> 00:46:58,559
because let's start again:
1074
00:46:58,559 --> 00:47:00,532
How many people does God love?
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(Team) Everybody.
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(Derek) He loves everyone,
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but somehow we have a choice to make
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whether we will accept
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that intimate relationship
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that we studied about.
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Let's go to a story that Jesus told
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in Matthew 24, verses 1 to 14,
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Matthew 22, excuse me, verses 1 to 14,
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and let's look; Kylynda, maybe you
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could read it for us.
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You say, "What has this got to do
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with the love of God?"
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Well, let's listen, because apparently,
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lots of people are invited to a banquet.
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So, how does this story
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read in your Bible?
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(Kylynda) I will be reading
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from the New Living Translation:
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(Derek) Wow, that's a pretty intense
story.
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Why would the king, if he said,
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"Go find any," both good and?
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(Team) Bad.
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(Derek) So that would include us, right?
Praise God.
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Don't tell me which one you are,
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but we're all saved
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by the grace of God, right?
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We're saved by the grace of God.
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Why would the king be upset
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if one person didn't have
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a wedding garment on?
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The only logical conclusion is?
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(Sophia) He needed one.
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(Derek) Well, he obviously needed one.
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(Don) He needed to be really genuine
or to fully accept the invitation.
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(Derek) Who provided the wedding garment?
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(Travis) He was unwilling to put it on.
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(Derek) He was unwilling
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to put on a wedding garment
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that was provided!
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If he had said, "Well, I didn't have one.
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Nobody gave it; I stood
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in the wrong line."
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He's speechless because he's
without excuse.
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He's without excuse.
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The wedding garment, that righteousness
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which covers us, is a gift of God's grace.
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To show up thinking we're okay without it
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is a fatal mistake, right?
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So, what does this last verse mean
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in the story that Kylynda read?
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"Many are called, but few are chosen"?
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How many is the many who are called? Puia?
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(Puia) All.
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(Derek) It's everybody; how do you know?
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(Harold) Good and bad were...
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(Derek) Good and bad, everybody.
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Everybody is called.
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So, what does it mean?
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"Many are called, but..."?
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What does it mean, "Few are chosen"?
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(Samantha) Only those who accept
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that invitation and decide
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to receive God's grace will be able
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to enter into the Kingdom,
will be chosen to enter.
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(Derek) ...sounds like poor English,
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but those who choose to be chosen, right?
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Who wants to be chosen? Right?
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Everyone is given the invitation.
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The garment is provided.
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Some people don't even want
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to come, right?
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In fact, most of the people
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don't want to come.
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But then some show up
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without putting on the garment.
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We have a choice to make. Travis?
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(Travis) Interestingly, Jesus
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starts out the beatitudes
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in Matthew, chapter 5, verse 3,
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[by saying], "Blessed are
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the poor in spirit," those who realize
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their brokenness, "for theirs is
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the Kingdom of Heaven."
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(Derek) Praise God.
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So, I'm going to have you do
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a little computer scan.
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I want our remotes to be engaged here,
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I'm going to ask you to be involved
in that.
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Can you think of someone
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who received an unexpected invitation
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to be part of the banquet -
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which means to be part
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of God's eternal kingdom, and experience
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His immeasurable, unfailing love forever -
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someone who received
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an unexpected invitation and accepted it?!
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Someone share a story with me,
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unexpected invitation
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and accepted it. Yes, Puia.
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(Puia) It reminds me of Zacchaeus.
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(Derek) Okay, Zacchaeus,
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you don't need to read the story,
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but tell us; Zacchaeus was a...?
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(Puia) Tax collector.
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(Derek) Very wealthy.
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(Puia) And he probably didn't expect Jesus
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to even know his name or invite him,
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or, you know, dine with him.
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That story just came into my mind.
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(Derek) So, Luke 19, great story,
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"I'm going to eat at your house today,
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but more than that, salvation comes
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00:52:54,633 --> 00:52:58,341
to this house today," right,
amazing story.
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Someone else, an unexpected invitation.
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I see Tricia Lee's hand raised.
Tricia Lee?
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(Tricia Lee) Yes, I think
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about the thief on the cross.
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He is guilty, and he is in the midst
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of being punished for his crime or crimes,
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and God extends salvation to him.
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He has no chance to come down and live
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a reformed life or do good things.
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It is simply the faith, grace, and mercy
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of God because we believe and know
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that He is saved still hanging
on that cross.
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(Derek) Beautiful. Wow, that's
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an amazing one.
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I see Gleny's hand raised, too.
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Gleny, somebody else that received
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an unexpected invitation to be part
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of this banquet which symbolizes
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the Kingdom and said, "Yes!"
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(Gleny) There's Matthew, who was
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a very bad candidate for being a disciple
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of Christ's because he was hated
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as a tax collector, but he accepted
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the invitation to follow Christ.
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(Derek) Yeah, I hope that Matthew
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and Zacchaeus got to be good friends,
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you know, both tax collectors. Sophia.
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(Sophia) Paul.
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(Derek) Saul of Tarsus, what was he doing
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before he accepted the invitation?
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(Sophia) Persecuting Christians,
killing them.
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(Derek) Persecuting Christians!
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00:54:12,707 --> 00:54:15,806
Killing people, forcing them to blaspheme
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the name of Jesus!
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And he gets an invitation.
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Where was he when he got the invitation?
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On the Damascus road, and when he
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got to Damascus, he gets the invitation,
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and he says, "Yes."
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Now, tragically, I wish we
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could just end there,
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00:54:30,869 --> 00:54:32,324
but remember there's a choice.
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So, someone, you're watching,
1232
00:54:33,725 --> 00:54:35,456
and you're going, "But you're saying
1233
00:54:35,456 --> 00:54:36,415
people could say no.
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00:54:36,415 --> 00:54:37,905
Maybe everybody will be saved."
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Can you think of someone who received
1236
00:54:39,725 --> 00:54:43,365
a surprise invitation and said no?
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00:54:43,365 --> 00:54:44,973
(Samantha) The rich young ruler.
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00:54:44,973 --> 00:54:46,668
(Derek) Alright, Samantha mentioned
1239
00:54:46,668 --> 00:54:49,172
the rich young ruler who Jesus says,
1240
00:54:49,172 --> 00:54:51,632
"Get rid of the stuff
1241
00:54:51,632 --> 00:54:55,084
that's getting in the way and follow Me,"
1242
00:54:55,084 --> 00:54:57,097
and he walked away.
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00:54:57,097 --> 00:54:59,267
Anybody else? Yes, Harold.
1244
00:54:59,267 --> 00:55:01,507
(Harold) Judas Iscariot, unfortunately.
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(Derek) After being one
1246
00:55:02,618 --> 00:55:05,202
of the close team members of Jesus,
1247
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Judas Iscariot rejected the invitation.
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And, of course,
1249
00:55:12,605 --> 00:55:17,010
there's a shocking realization
1250
00:55:17,010 --> 00:55:18,480
that when we walk away
1251
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,546
from the love of God,
1252
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there is no hope, there really isn't.
1253
00:55:25,551 --> 00:55:29,735
And tragically, he hangs himself.
1254
00:55:29,735 --> 00:55:31,212
But the love of God gives us
1255
00:55:31,212 --> 00:55:34,353
a reason to live.
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What's the most important lesson
1257
00:55:35,899 --> 00:55:37,543
you've learned in our study today?
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We've got a few seconds to wrap up.
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Most important lesson, anybody. Puia.
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(Puia) God is faithful even when we
1261
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are not faithful.
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(Derek) But we can then choose...
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(Puia) To be faithful.
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(Derek) ...and to receive His love.
Yes, Samantha.
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(Samantha) God's love knows no bounds.
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00:55:51,862 --> 00:55:53,172
(Derek) It knows no bounds.
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00:55:53,172 --> 00:55:57,732
What's its only limit?
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(James) Us.
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(Derek) Us, that's right, James.
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I want to appeal to you.
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We're starting a series
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on God's Love and Justice.
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I want to testify by the Word of God
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that Jesus loves you.
1275
00:56:09,855 --> 00:56:12,402
He came to reveal the Father's love
1276
00:56:12,402 --> 00:56:13,685
who has loved you
1277
00:56:13,685 --> 00:56:15,697
since the foundation of the world.
1278
00:56:15,697 --> 00:56:18,444
And He wants you to experience
1279
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an intimate relationship with Him,
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to spend forever with Him.
1281
00:56:22,365 --> 00:56:23,902
You say, "Derek, you don't know
1282
00:56:23,902 --> 00:56:24,980
the things I've done."
1283
00:56:24,980 --> 00:56:26,715
It doesn't matter what you've done;
1284
00:56:26,715 --> 00:56:28,246
He can cleanse you, forgive you
1285
00:56:28,246 --> 00:56:29,634
of your sin, and give you
1286
00:56:29,634 --> 00:56:31,313
the gift of eternal life.
1287
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I want to appeal to you
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to accept His love today.
1289
00:56:33,667 --> 00:56:35,888
You say, "Derek, I did that long ago."
1290
00:56:35,888 --> 00:56:37,878
Then, would you tell someone around you?
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00:56:37,878 --> 00:56:40,497
Would you tell someone who needs to know
1292
00:56:40,497 --> 00:56:43,438
really what God is like?
1293
00:56:43,438 --> 00:56:44,407
Let's pray together.
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00:56:44,407 --> 00:56:45,415
Father in Heaven,
1295
00:56:45,415 --> 00:56:47,585
we're just starting this journey,
1296
00:56:47,585 --> 00:56:49,597
studying about Your love and justice.
1297
00:56:49,597 --> 00:56:52,007
And I pray that Your Holy Spirit
1298
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would give supernatural revelation,
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00:56:54,417 --> 00:56:56,893
even as a result of this study,
1300
00:56:56,893 --> 00:56:59,530
of Your beautiful character of love,
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00:56:59,530 --> 00:57:01,787
that You will never stop loving us.
1302
00:57:01,787 --> 00:57:03,505
May we open our hearts to receive
1303
00:57:03,505 --> 00:57:05,257
Your love, even today.
1304
00:57:05,257 --> 00:57:07,118
In Jesus' name. Amen.
1305
00:57:07,118 --> 00:57:08,232
(Team) Amen.
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00:57:08,232 --> 00:57:09,617
(Derek) Thanks for joining us
1307
00:57:09,617 --> 00:57:10,774
for Hope Sabbath School.
1308
00:57:10,774 --> 00:57:13,395
This is going to be an amazing journey.
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00:57:13,395 --> 00:57:15,175
You say, "Derek, it's going to change
1310
00:57:15,175 --> 00:57:17,197
my picture of God." Praise God!
1311
00:57:17,197 --> 00:57:19,663
See God for the awesome loving God
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00:57:19,663 --> 00:57:20,810
that He really is.
1313
00:57:20,810 --> 00:57:22,110
And, friend, don't keep
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00:57:22,110 --> 00:57:24,260
that good news to yourself.
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Go out and be a blessing
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00:57:26,021 --> 00:57:27,020
to those around you.
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