The case for letting business solve social problems
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0:00 - 0:02I think we're all aware
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0:02 - 0:05that the world today is full of problems.
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0:05 - 0:07We've been hearing them
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0:07 - 0:11today and yesterday and every day for decades.
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0:11 - 0:15Serious problems, big problems, pressing problems.
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0:15 - 0:19Poor nutrition, access to water,
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0:19 - 0:22climate change, deforestation,
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0:22 - 0:25lack of skills, insecurity, not enough food,
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0:25 - 0:28not enough healthcare, pollution.
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0:28 - 0:30There's problem after problem,
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0:30 - 0:32and I think what really separates this time
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0:32 - 0:36from any time I can remember in my brief time
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0:36 - 0:39on Earth is the awareness of these problems.
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0:39 - 0:42We're all very aware.
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0:42 - 0:44Why are we having so much trouble
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0:44 - 0:45dealing with these problems?
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0:45 - 0:48That's the question I've been struggling with,
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0:48 - 0:53coming from my very different perspective.
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0:53 - 0:56I'm not a social problem guy.
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0:56 - 0:58I'm a guy that works with business,
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0:58 - 1:02helps business make money.
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1:02 - 1:05God forbid.
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1:05 - 1:08So why are we having so many problems
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1:08 - 1:11with these social problems,
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1:11 - 1:13and really is there any role for business,
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1:13 - 1:17and if so, what is that role?
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1:17 - 1:20I think that in order to address that question,
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1:20 - 1:23we have to step back and think about
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1:23 - 1:27how we've understood and pondered
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1:27 - 1:29both the problems and the solutions
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1:29 - 1:33to these great social challenges that we face.
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1:33 - 1:36Now, I think many have seen business
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1:36 - 1:39as the problem, or at least one of the problems,
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1:39 - 1:42in many of the social challenges we face.
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1:42 - 1:43You know, think of the fast food industry,
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1:43 - 1:45the drug industry, the banking industry.
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1:45 - 1:47You know, this is a low point
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1:47 - 1:50in the respect for business.
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1:50 - 1:52Business is not seen as the solution.
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1:52 - 1:56It's seen as the problem now, for most people.
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1:56 - 1:58And rightly so, in many cases.
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1:58 - 2:00There's a lot of bad actors out there
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2:00 - 2:02that have done the wrong thing,
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2:02 - 2:04that actually have made the problem worse.
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2:04 - 2:07So this perspective is perhaps justified.
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2:07 - 2:10How have we tended to see the solutions
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2:10 - 2:12to these social problems,
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2:12 - 2:16these many issues that we face in society?
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2:16 - 2:17Well, we've tended to see the solutions
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2:17 - 2:19in terms of NGOs,
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2:19 - 2:21in terms of government,
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2:21 - 2:23in terms of philanthropy.
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2:23 - 2:26Indeed, the kind of unique organizational entity
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2:26 - 2:31of this age is this tremendous rise of NGOs
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2:31 - 2:33and social organizations.
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2:33 - 2:36This is a unique, new organizational form
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2:36 - 2:37that we've seen grown up.
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2:37 - 2:41Enormous innovation, enormous energy,
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2:41 - 2:43enormous talent now has been mobilized
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2:43 - 2:45through this structure
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2:45 - 2:50to try to deal with all of these challenges.
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2:50 - 2:55And many of us here are deeply involved in that.
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2:55 - 2:56I'm a business school professor,
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2:56 - 3:00but I've actually founded, I think, now, four nonprofits.
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3:00 - 3:03Whenever I got interested and became aware
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3:03 - 3:06of a societal problem, that was what I did,
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3:06 - 3:08form a nonprofit.
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3:08 - 3:11That was the way we've thought about how to deal
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3:11 - 3:12with these issues.
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3:12 - 3:16Even a business school professor has thought about it that way.
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3:16 - 3:18But I think at this moment,
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3:18 - 3:21we've been at this for quite a while.
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3:21 - 3:24We've been aware of these problems for decades.
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3:24 - 3:26We have decades of experience
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3:26 - 3:30with our NGOs and with our government entities,
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3:30 - 3:32and there's an awkward reality.
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3:32 - 3:34The awkward reality is we're not making
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3:34 - 3:36fast enough progress.
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3:36 - 3:39We're not winning.
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3:39 - 3:41These problems still seem very daunting
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3:41 - 3:42and very intractable,
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3:42 - 3:45and any solutions we're achieving
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3:45 - 3:47are small solutions.
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3:47 - 3:51We're making incremental progress.
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3:51 - 3:54What's the fundamental problem we have
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3:54 - 3:57in dealing with these social problems?
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3:57 - 4:01If we cut all the complexity away,
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4:01 - 4:04we have the problem of scale.
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4:04 - 4:07We can't scale.
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4:07 - 4:10We can make progress. We can show benefits.
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4:10 - 4:14We can show results. We can make things better.
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4:14 - 4:18We're helping. We're doing better. We're doing good.
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4:18 - 4:20We can't scale.
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4:20 - 4:25We can't make a large-scale impact on these problems.
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4:25 - 4:27Why is that?
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4:27 - 4:31Because we don't have the resources.
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4:31 - 4:32And that's really clear now.
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4:32 - 4:35And that's clearer now than it's been for decades.
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4:35 - 4:39There's simply not enough money
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4:39 - 4:42to deal with any of these problems at scale
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4:42 - 4:44using the current model.
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4:44 - 4:48There's not enough tax revenue,
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4:48 - 4:52there's not enough philanthropic donations,
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4:52 - 4:54to deal with these problems the way we're dealing with them now.
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4:54 - 4:59We've got to confront that reality.
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4:59 - 5:02And the scarcity of resources
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5:02 - 5:06for dealing with these problems is only growing,
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5:06 - 5:10certainly in the advanced world today,
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5:10 - 5:14with all the fiscal problems we face.
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5:14 - 5:18So if it's fundamentally a resource problem,
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5:18 - 5:22where are the resources in society?
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5:22 - 5:25How are those resources really created,
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5:25 - 5:27the resources we're going to need to deal
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5:27 - 5:30with all these societal challenges?
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5:30 - 5:33Well there, I think the answer is very clear:
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5:33 - 5:37They're in business.
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5:37 - 5:43All wealth is actually created by business.
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5:43 - 5:45Business creates wealth
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5:45 - 5:50when it meets needs at a profit.
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5:50 - 5:53That's how all wealth is created.
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5:53 - 5:55It's meeting needs at a profit
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5:55 - 5:58that leads to taxes
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5:58 - 5:59and that leads to incomes
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5:59 - 6:02and that leads to charitable donations.
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6:02 - 6:05That's where all the resources come from.
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6:05 - 6:07Only business can actually create resources.
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6:07 - 6:09Other institutions can utilize them
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6:09 - 6:10to do important work,
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6:10 - 6:14but only business can create them.
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6:14 - 6:15And business creates them
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6:15 - 6:23when it's able to meet a need at a profit.
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6:23 - 6:26The resources are overwhelmingly
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6:26 - 6:28generated by business.
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6:28 - 6:34The question then is, how do we tap into this?
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6:34 - 6:36How do we tap into this?
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6:36 - 6:39Business generates those resources
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6:39 - 6:44when it makes a profit.
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6:44 - 6:47That profit is that small difference
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6:47 - 6:52between the price and the cost it takes to produce
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6:52 - 6:54whatever solution business has created
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6:54 - 6:57to whatever problem they're trying to solve.
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6:57 - 7:04But that profit is the magic.
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7:04 - 7:09Why? Because that profit allows whatever solution
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7:09 - 7:11we've created
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7:11 - 7:15to be infinitely scalable.
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7:15 - 7:18Because if we can make a profit,
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7:18 - 7:21we can do it for 10, 100, a million,
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7:21 - 7:25100 million, a billion.
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7:25 - 7:29The solution becomes self-sustaining.
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7:29 - 7:32That's what business does
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7:32 - 7:36when it makes a profit.
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7:36 - 7:38Now what does this all have to do
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7:38 - 7:41with social problems?
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7:41 - 7:44Well, one line of thinking is, let's take this profit
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7:44 - 7:50and redeploy it into social problems.
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7:50 - 7:51Business should give more.
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7:51 - 7:53Business should be more responsible.
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7:53 - 7:55And that's been the path that we've been on
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7:55 - 7:58in business.
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7:58 - 8:00But again, this path that we've been on
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8:00 - 8:04is not getting us where we need to go.
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8:04 - 8:07Now, I started out as a strategy professor,
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8:07 - 8:09and I'm still a strategy professor.
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8:09 - 8:10I'm proud of that.
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8:10 - 8:11But I've also, over the years,
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8:11 - 8:14worked more and more on social issues.
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8:14 - 8:17I've worked on healthcare, the environment,
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8:17 - 8:21economic development, reducing poverty,
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8:21 - 8:25and as I worked more and more in the social field,
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8:25 - 8:27I started seeing something
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8:27 - 8:30that had a profound impact on me
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8:30 - 8:34and my whole life, in a way.
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8:34 - 8:38The conventional wisdom in economics
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8:38 - 8:41and the view in business has historically been
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8:41 - 8:45that actually, there's a tradeoff
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8:45 - 8:50between social performance and economic performance.
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8:50 - 8:52The conventional wisdom has been
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8:52 - 8:55that business actually makes a profit
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8:55 - 8:57by causing a social problem.
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8:57 - 8:59The classic example is pollution.
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8:59 - 9:02If business pollutes, it makes more money
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9:02 - 9:06than if it tried to reduce that pollution.
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9:06 - 9:08Reducing pollution is expensive,
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9:08 - 9:14therefore businesses don't want to do it.
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9:14 - 9:17It's profitable to have an unsafe working environment.
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9:17 - 9:19It's too expensive to have a safe working environment,
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9:19 - 9:21therefore business makes more money
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9:21 - 9:23if they don't have a safe working environment.
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9:23 - 9:26That's been the conventional wisdom.
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9:26 - 9:29A lot of companies have fallen into that conventional wisdom.
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9:29 - 9:31They resisted environmental improvement.
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9:31 - 9:37They resisted workplace improvement.
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9:37 - 9:40That thinking has led to, I think,
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9:40 - 9:42much of the behavior
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9:42 - 9:44that we have come to criticize in business,
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9:44 - 9:46that I come to criticize in business.
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9:46 - 9:50But the more deeply I got into all these social issues,
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9:50 - 9:53one after another,
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9:53 - 9:55and actually, the more I tried to address them
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9:55 - 9:57myself, personally, in a few cases,
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9:57 - 10:00through nonprofits that I was involved with,
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10:00 - 10:03the more I found actually that the reality
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10:03 - 10:06is the opposite.
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10:06 - 10:07Business does not profit
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10:07 - 10:09from causing social problems,
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10:09 - 10:13actually not in any fundamental sense.
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10:13 - 10:15That's a very simplistic view.
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10:15 - 10:18The deeper we get into these issues,
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10:18 - 10:20the more we start to understand
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10:20 - 10:22that actually business profits
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10:22 - 10:24from solving from social problems.
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10:24 - 10:26That's where the real profit comes.
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10:26 - 10:29Let's take pollution.
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10:29 - 10:31We've learned today that actually
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10:31 - 10:34reducing pollution and emissions
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10:34 - 10:37is generating profit.
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10:37 - 10:39It saves money.
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10:39 - 10:41It makes the business more productive and efficient.
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10:41 - 10:42It doesn't waste resources.
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10:42 - 10:45Having a safer working environment actually,
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10:45 - 10:46and avoiding accidents,
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10:46 - 10:48it makes the business more profitable,
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10:48 - 10:51because it's a sign of good processes.
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10:51 - 10:55Accidents are expensive and costly.
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10:55 - 10:58Issue by issue by issue, we start to learn
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10:58 - 11:01that actually there's no trade-off
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11:01 - 11:04between social progress
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11:04 - 11:07and economic efficiency
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11:07 - 11:09in any fundamental sense.
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11:09 - 11:11Another issue is health.
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11:11 - 11:13I mean, what we've found is actually
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11:13 - 11:15health of employees is something
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11:15 - 11:16that business should treasure,
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11:16 - 11:19because that health allows those employees
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11:19 - 11:20to be more productive and come to work
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11:20 - 11:23and not be absent.
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11:23 - 11:26The deeper work, the new work, the new thinking
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11:26 - 11:30on the interface between business and social problems
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11:30 - 11:33is actually showing that there's a fundamental,
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11:33 - 11:35deep synergy,
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11:35 - 11:39particularly if you're not thinking in the very short run.
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11:39 - 11:41In the very short run, you can sometimes
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11:41 - 11:43fool yourself into thinking
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11:43 - 11:45that there's fundamentally opposing goals,
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11:45 - 11:48but in the long run, ultimately, we're learning
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11:48 - 11:52in field after field that this is simply not true.
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11:52 - 11:55So how could we tap into
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11:55 - 11:58the power of business
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11:58 - 12:00to address the fundamental problems
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12:00 - 12:03that we face?
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12:03 - 12:05Imagine if we could do that, because if we could do it,
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12:05 - 12:07we could scale.
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12:07 - 12:10We could tap into this enormous resource pool
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12:10 - 12:13and this organizational capacity.
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12:13 - 12:18And guess what? That's happening now, finally,
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12:18 - 12:22partly because of people like you
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12:22 - 12:24who have raised these issues now
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12:24 - 12:27for year after year and decade after decade.
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12:27 - 12:30We see organizations like Dow Chemical
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12:30 - 12:32leading the revolution away from trans fat
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12:32 - 12:35and saturated fat with innovative new products.
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12:35 - 12:37This is an example of Jain Irrigation.
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12:37 - 12:39This is a company that's brought drip irrigation technology
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12:39 - 12:42to thousands and millions of farmers,
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12:42 - 12:45reducing substantially the use of water.
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12:45 - 12:48We see companies like the Brazilian forestry company Fibria
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12:48 - 12:50that's figured out how to avoid
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12:50 - 12:52tearing down old growth forest
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12:52 - 12:54and using eucalyptus and getting much more yield
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12:54 - 12:56per hectare of pulp
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12:56 - 12:58and making much more paper than you could make
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12:58 - 13:01by cutting down those old trees.
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13:01 - 13:03You see companies like Cisco that are training
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13:03 - 13:08so far four million people in I.T. skills
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13:08 - 13:10to actually, yes, be responsible,
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13:10 - 13:12but help expand the opportunity
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13:12 - 13:14to disseminate I.T. technology
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13:14 - 13:16and grow the whole business.
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13:16 - 13:20There's a fundamental opportunity for business today
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13:20 - 13:24to impact and address these social problems,
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13:24 - 13:26and this opportunity
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13:26 - 13:29is the largest business opportunity
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13:29 - 13:32we see in business.
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13:32 - 13:35And the question is, how can we get business
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13:35 - 13:38thinking to adapt this issue of shared value?
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13:38 - 13:40This is what I call shared value:
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13:40 - 13:44addressing a social issue with a business model.
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13:44 - 13:46That's shared value.
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13:46 - 13:47Shared value is capitalism,
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13:47 - 13:50but it's a higher kind of capitalism.
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13:50 - 13:53It's capitalism as it was ultimately meant to be,
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13:53 - 13:57meeting important needs,
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13:57 - 14:00not incrementally competing for
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14:00 - 14:03trivial differences in product attributes
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14:03 - 14:05and market share.
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14:05 - 14:07Shared value is when we can create social value
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14:07 - 14:09and economic value simultaneously.
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14:09 - 14:12It's finding those opportunities
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14:12 - 14:15that will unleash the greatest possibility we have
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14:15 - 14:17to actually address these social problems
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14:17 - 14:19because we can scale.
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14:19 - 14:23We can address shared value at multiple levels.
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14:23 - 14:26It's real. It's happening.
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14:26 - 14:29But in order to get this solution working,
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14:29 - 14:33we have to now change how business sees itself,
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14:33 - 14:35and this is thankfully underway.
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14:35 - 14:39Businesses got trapped into the conventional wisdom
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14:39 - 14:41that they shouldn't worry about social problems,
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14:41 - 14:43that this was sort of something on the side,
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14:43 - 14:45that somebody else was doing it.
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14:45 - 14:47We're now seeing companies
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14:47 - 14:49embrace this idea.
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14:49 - 14:51But we also have to recognize business
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14:51 - 14:54is not going to do this as effectively
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14:54 - 14:56as if we have NGOs and government
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14:56 - 14:59working in partnership with business.
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14:59 - 15:02The new NGOs that are really moving the needle
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15:02 - 15:04are the ones that have found these partnerships,
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15:04 - 15:06that have found these ways to collaborate.
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15:06 - 15:09The governments that are making the most progress
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15:09 - 15:10are the governments that have found ways
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15:10 - 15:14to enable shared value in business
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15:14 - 15:17rather than see government as the only player
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15:17 - 15:20that has to call the shots.
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15:20 - 15:22And government has many ways in which it could impact
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15:22 - 15:25the willingness and the ability of companies
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15:25 - 15:27to compete in this way.
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15:27 - 15:30I think if we can get business seeing itself differently,
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15:30 - 15:32and if we can get others seeing business differently,
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15:32 - 15:35we can change the world.
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15:35 - 15:38I know it. I'm seeing it.
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15:38 - 15:40I'm feeling it.
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15:40 - 15:42Young people, I think,
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15:42 - 15:45my Harvard Business School students, are getting it.
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15:45 - 15:49If we can break down this sort of divide,
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15:49 - 15:52this unease, this tension,
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15:52 - 15:54this sense that we're not
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15:54 - 15:57fundamentally collaborating here
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15:57 - 15:59in driving these social problems,
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15:59 - 16:01we can break this down,
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16:01 - 16:03and we finally, I think,
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16:03 - 16:06can have solutions.
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16:06 - 16:08Thank you.
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16:08 - 16:11(Applause)
- Title:
- The case for letting business solve social problems
- Speaker:
- Michael Porter
- Description:
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Why do we turn to nonprofits, NGOs and governments to solve society's biggest problems? Michael Porter admits he's biased, as a business school professor, but he wants you to hear his case for letting business try to solve massive problems like climate change and access to water. Why? Because when business solves a problem, it makes a profit -- which lets that solution grow.
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
- closed TED
- Project:
- TEDTalks
- Duration:
- 16:28
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