Can you imagine a world where you are the minority? | Julie Dachez | TEDxCollegeofEuropeNatolin
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0:06 - 0:08I love this mic.
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0:08 - 0:10I feel like Beyoncé.
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0:10 - 0:11It's so cool.
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0:13 - 0:17I was invited here to talk about autism.
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0:17 - 0:21It's a topic I know quite well
for two reasons. -
0:21 - 0:25First, I studied it during my PhD
in Social Psychology, -
0:25 - 0:29and second, I myself am
on the autism spectrum, -
0:29 - 0:31since I have Asperger's syndrome.
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0:31 - 0:33So, I kind of have a double hat.
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0:34 - 0:37But when I was preparing this speech,
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0:37 - 0:41I thought it would be
even more interesting -
0:41 - 0:44to talk about non-autistic people.
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0:44 - 0:46Yeah, that's you.
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0:46 - 0:49You see, I've been observing
you my whole life, -
0:49 - 0:53and truth be told,
I find you quite fascinating. -
0:53 - 0:55So, yeah,
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0:55 - 0:58you definitely deserve
your own PowerPoint. -
0:59 - 1:00Ta-da!
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1:01 - 1:03"Neurotypical people."
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1:03 - 1:07That's how we call people
who are not on the autism spectrum. -
1:07 - 1:10So, you too have your own little label.
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1:13 - 1:14What about symptoms?
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1:14 - 1:19Well, neurotypical people love small talk.
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1:19 - 1:21This is like your national sport!
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1:22 - 1:23You talk,
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1:23 - 1:25but you say nothing.
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1:26 - 1:28What a strange custom!
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1:28 - 1:32At first, I had no idea why you did that,
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1:32 - 1:33but I get it now.
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1:33 - 1:35Small talk serves a real purpose,
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1:35 - 1:38because it enables you
to connect with people -
1:38 - 1:39in spaces you share,
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1:39 - 1:43like with your neighbor
in the building you live in, -
1:43 - 1:45or with your colleague in your workspace.
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1:46 - 1:49Over the years, I learned
how to make small talk. -
1:49 - 1:51But sometimes, it's tricky.
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1:52 - 1:56Like, the other day,
I ran into my neighbor in the elevator. -
1:56 - 2:01And I was feeling confident, you know,
because I was wearing my lucky outfit. -
2:01 - 2:05And this is, of course, my lucky outfit,
in case you're wondering. -
2:05 - 2:07So I was feeling
like the world belonged to me, -
2:07 - 2:10and so I decided to engage in small talk.
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2:10 - 2:12And I saw he was carrying bags
full of groceries. -
2:12 - 2:15So I had this stroke of genius
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2:15 - 2:18and asked him this
really profound question: -
2:18 - 2:20"Oh, you did some shopping?"
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2:21 - 2:22Yeah, well,
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2:22 - 2:24as I said, I have a PhD, so -
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2:25 - 2:27And the neighbor answers,
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2:27 - 2:31"Yeah, I went to the market,
but I won't go there anymore. -
2:32 - 2:34Too many Arabs."
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2:34 - 2:35"Okay."
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2:36 - 2:38And I swear, it's a true story.
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2:38 - 2:43So, we went from small talk
to racial slurs real quick. -
2:44 - 2:48You also have a very special way
of communicating. -
2:48 - 2:50You use sarcasm, double meaning,
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2:50 - 2:53and you often tiptoe around the truth.
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2:53 - 2:59You have an almost pathological inability
to communicate in a straightforward way. -
3:00 - 3:03What you say can have multiple meanings,
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3:03 - 3:06and you always have to read
between the lines. -
3:06 - 3:08I don't know how you do it!
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3:08 - 3:09It's exhausting!
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3:10 - 3:12And you are so twisted
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3:12 - 3:17that sometimes you even ask questions
you don't want to have the answers to. -
3:18 - 3:19Like, for example,
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3:20 - 3:21if one of my girlfriends says,
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3:21 - 3:24"Oh look, I bought this
new foundation the other day -
3:24 - 3:27and I am wearing it right now;
how do you like it?", -
3:27 - 3:31I know by experience
that it may be a rhetorical question. -
3:32 - 3:35She probably is just trying
to start a conversation -
3:35 - 3:37or wants to be reassured.
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3:38 - 3:42So if I give her a straight answer,
like any autistic person would, -
3:42 - 3:43and say,
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3:43 - 3:45"Well, your face is orange,
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3:45 - 3:49and it kind of makes you look
like Donald Trump," -
3:50 - 3:51that's no good.
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3:52 - 3:55All those social codes
and social conventions -
3:55 - 3:59can be particularly hard to understand
for an autistic person. -
3:59 - 4:01We say what we mean,
and we mean what we say, -
4:01 - 4:04to the point of being brutally honest.
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4:04 - 4:07And I really think that if you're ready
to put your ego aside -
4:07 - 4:09so as not to take everything personally,
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4:09 - 4:11it's a much more
efficient way to communicate -
4:11 - 4:14because you can save
a lot of time and energy. -
4:14 - 4:15You should try it.
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4:17 - 4:21But we also have similarities,
like special interests. -
4:22 - 4:25Autistic people tend to develop
an intense interest -
4:25 - 4:27in one or more subjects.
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4:27 - 4:29It can be the subway lines,
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4:29 - 4:30or exotic birds,
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4:30 - 4:33or historical figures, like Angela Davis.
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4:33 - 4:37We can accumulate
a considerable amount of knowledge -
4:37 - 4:40to the point of becoming experts
in our special interests. -
4:41 - 4:45It's considered a symptom
because it can be all-consuming. -
4:45 - 4:47But the truth is special interests
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4:47 - 4:50are an important resource
for people on the spectrum, -
4:50 - 4:53and we need them as much
as we need air to breathe. -
4:54 - 4:56But you too have
your own special interest: -
4:56 - 4:58socializing.
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4:58 - 5:02You spend so much time socializing,
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5:02 - 5:04with your friends,
during your coffee break, -
5:04 - 5:06or even with the bus driver.
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5:07 - 5:11It seems normal to you
because most people function that way, -
5:11 - 5:14but if you lived in a world
dominated by autistic people, -
5:15 - 5:16you would be the weirdos.
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5:17 - 5:20And last but not least,
your natural habitat. -
5:20 - 5:22Can I read it for you?
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5:23 - 5:27Neurotypical people are best observed
at nightfall in a dynamic environment, -
5:27 - 5:28with their peer group.
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5:30 - 5:35Of course, as you may have noticed,
this slide is a bit cliché, -
5:35 - 5:39because not all neurotypical
people drink champagne. -
5:41 - 5:43And I hate to be the bearer of bad news,
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5:43 - 5:46but there is no cure, for the time being.
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5:46 - 5:48It's so sad.
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5:49 - 5:50But seriously, though,
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5:51 - 5:53what do you think about all this?
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5:54 - 5:56Don't you feel a bit stigmatized?
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5:57 - 5:59Were you not thinking just now,
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6:00 - 6:02"That's a bit demeaning and simplistic"?
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6:03 - 6:04Yeah,
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6:05 - 6:06I know the feeling.
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6:08 - 6:13Can you imagine living in a world
where you are the minority, -
6:14 - 6:18where your way of being
is deemed pathological, -
6:19 - 6:21where people will tell you stuff like,
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6:22 - 6:24"But you don't look neurotypical"?
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6:26 - 6:29Or, "I know all about neurotypical people
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6:29 - 6:32because I saw an entire
season of 'Friends.'" -
6:34 - 6:37A world where people
will try to standardize you, -
6:37 - 6:42a world where you would constantly feel
like you are not enough. -
6:43 - 6:46Now finally, you can
understand the kind of crap -
6:46 - 6:48I've been dealing with my whole life.
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6:49 - 6:51Welcome to my world.
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6:52 - 6:56It gets on my nerves when people talk
about the causes, the "symptoms" -
6:56 - 6:58and the "treatments" of autism.
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6:58 - 7:01I really think that we are
going the wrong way. -
7:01 - 7:03We should spend more time
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7:03 - 7:08trying to give people on the spectrum
the place they deserve in our society, -
7:08 - 7:11trying to empower them
and make them independent. -
7:12 - 7:14Autistic people don't need a cure,
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7:14 - 7:17but they do need appropriate
educational approaches -
7:17 - 7:19to grow and flourish.
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7:19 - 7:23They also need their rights
to be respected. -
7:23 - 7:28In France, only 20 to 30%
of autistic children go to school, -
7:28 - 7:31and a very small number
of autistic adults have a job. -
7:32 - 7:36I can't tell you how many exactly,
because we don't have the numbers. -
7:36 - 7:39There is not a single study
on the subject. -
7:40 - 7:41We don't know either
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7:41 - 7:45how many of us are currently locked up
in psychiatric hospitals. -
7:46 - 7:47But, you know,
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7:47 - 7:49one is too many.
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7:50 - 7:55We are doomed to a lifetime
of loneliness, poverty and exclusion. -
7:56 - 7:59And it's even more difficult
for women on the spectrum. -
8:00 - 8:02When you are at the intersection
of autism and gender, -
8:03 - 8:04you experience unique difficulties
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8:05 - 8:07because you are not only
the victim of autismophobia; -
8:07 - 8:09you are also the victim of sexism,
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8:09 - 8:12and those two forms
of oppression interact together. -
8:13 - 8:14Let me give you an example.
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8:15 - 8:18We are just now starting to realize
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8:18 - 8:22that the diagnostic criteria
for autism are gender-biased, -
8:22 - 8:27because they have been established taking
into account the behavior of autistic men. -
8:28 - 8:32That and the fact that autism is expressed
in a much more subtle way in women -
8:32 - 8:37are the reasons why so many women
on the spectrum go undiagnosed -
8:37 - 8:38or are misdiagnosed.
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8:39 - 8:43Kimberlé Crenshaw was the first to come up
with the concept of intersectionality -
8:43 - 8:45to reveal the problems
faced by black women, -
8:45 - 8:47and she did an amazing TED talk about it.
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8:47 - 8:49So, you should watch it.
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8:49 - 8:51But like, not now, of course.
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8:51 - 8:53This is my big moment.
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8:56 - 8:59I remember meeting a researcher
a few months ago. -
9:00 - 9:03She was very excited
about the recent discoveries -
9:03 - 9:07on the impact of oxytocin
as a treatment for autistic people. -
9:07 - 9:10It seems this treatment
allows people on the spectrum -
9:10 - 9:13to socialize better or more.
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9:13 - 9:16I told her that it raised
a number of questions -
9:16 - 9:21because if I had been given this treatment
and had been pushed to socialize, -
9:21 - 9:23I wouldn't have had time to accomplish
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9:23 - 9:27all the things I've accomplished
in the past six years. -
9:27 - 9:29I have a blog,
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9:29 - 9:30a YouTube channel,
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9:30 - 9:34I did my PhD and I published two books.
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9:34 - 9:37So, I don't spend time
socializing with my friends, -
9:37 - 9:39but who cares?
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9:39 - 9:40I get things done.
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9:41 - 9:42It doesn't make sense to me
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9:42 - 9:45that people would want me
to be less autistic. -
9:45 - 9:50It is because I'm autistic
that I am extremely focused, -
9:50 - 9:51resilient,
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9:51 - 9:53hypersensitive,
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9:53 - 9:56and thus very creative, honest,
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9:56 - 9:59and that I have many areas of expertise.
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10:00 - 10:03And yes, I know that
my experience is not the same -
10:03 - 10:06as the experience of autistic people
who are much more dependent, -
10:06 - 10:07but still,
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10:07 - 10:11I think this type of research
raises ethical issues. -
10:13 - 10:18I'd like to live in a world
where I can just be myself, -
10:19 - 10:21where my voice matters,
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10:23 - 10:26where I can get
the kind of support I need, -
10:27 - 10:31a world where I don't need to be
this poster child of autism -
10:31 - 10:33in order to be loved and accepted,
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10:33 - 10:38a world where I don't have to fight
stereotypes and discrimination -
10:38 - 10:40every single day.
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10:40 - 10:42This is the world we have to build.
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10:43 - 10:44And in the meantime,
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10:44 - 10:47I'd like to say
to my fellow autistic friends -
10:47 - 10:50and to all the people
who are different out there: -
10:50 - 10:52you are not a mistake,
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10:53 - 10:56you are not a disease
that needs to be cured, -
10:57 - 10:59and you are enough.
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11:01 - 11:02Thank you.
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11:02 - 11:04(Applause)
- Title:
- Can you imagine a world where you are the minority? | Julie Dachez | TEDxCollegeofEuropeNatolin
- Description:
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Julie, the author of "La différence invisible" ("the invisible difference") and "Dans ta Bulle" ("In your bubble"), introduces a neurotypical person to us. Questioning the very concept of normality in our society, she also underlines the importance of understanding ourselves in order to accept it.
She has been diagnosed as autistic - Asperger syndrome - at the age of 27. Since then, her life changed and she has reconciled with her inner self. Being a speaker and a transmedia author, she expresses herself either on blogs as well as on the YouTube platform.
This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at https://www.ted.com/tedx
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
- closed TED
- Project:
- TEDxTalks
- Duration:
- 11:08