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My first year in graduate school
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studying cooperation in monkeys,
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I spent a lot of time outside
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just watching our groups
of Capuchin monkeys interact.
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One afternoon, I was out back
feeding peanuts to one of our groups,
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which required distracting
one of our males, Ozzie, enough
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so that the other monkeys could get some.
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Ozzie loved peanuts,
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and he always tried to do
anything he could to grab some.
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On that day, however,
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he began trying to bring other things
from his enclosure to me
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and trade them with me
in order to get a peanut.
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Now Capuchins are smart,
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so this wasn't necessarily a surprise.
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But what was a surprise
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was that some of the things
that he was bringing me
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I was pretty sure he liked
better than peanuts.
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First, he brought me
a piece of monkey chow,
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which is like dried dog food,
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it was even made by Purina,
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and for a monkey,
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is about as worthless as it gets.
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Of course I didn't give him
a peanut for that.
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But he kept trying,
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and eventually he brought me
a quarter of an orange
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and tried to trade it
with me for a peanut.
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Now oranges are a valuable
monkey commodity,
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so this trade seemed, shall I say,
a little bit nuts?
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Now you may be wondering
how we know what monkeys prefer.
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Well, we ask them,
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by giving them a choice between two foods
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and seeing which one they pick.
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Generally speaking,
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their preferences are a lot like ours.
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The sweeter it is, the more they like it.
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So, much like humans prefer
cupcakes to kale,
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monkeys prefer fruits,
like oranges or grapes,
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to vegetables like cucumbers
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and all of this to monkey chow.
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And peanuts are not bad.
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However, they definitely don't prefer them
to a chunk of orange.
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So when Ozzie tried to trade
a quarter of an orange for a peanut,
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it was a surprise
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and I began to wonder
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if he suddenly wanted that peanut
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because everybody else
in his group was getting one.
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In case you're wondering,
I did give Ozzie his peanut.
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But then I went straight
to my graduate adviser,
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Frans de Waal,
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and we began to design a study
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to see how the monkeys would respond
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when somebody else in their group
got a better reward than they did
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for doing the same work.
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It was a very simple study.
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We took two monkeys from the same group
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and had them sit side by side,
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and they would do a task,
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which was trading a token with me,
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and if they did so successfully,
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they got a reward.
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The catch was that monkey
always got a piece of cucumber,
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and the other monkey
sometimes got a piece of cucumber,
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but sometimes got a grape.
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And if you'll recall,
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grapes are much preferred to cucumbers
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on the Capuchin monkey hierarchy.
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These are two of my Capuchin monkeys.
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Winter, on the right,
is trading for a grape,
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and Lance on the left,
is trading for a cucumber.
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You can see that she --
and yes, Lance is actually a female --
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is at first perfectly happy
with her cucumber,
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until she sees Winter trading for a grape.
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Suddenly, Lance is very
enthusiastic about trading.
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She gets her cucumber,
takes a bite and then --
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throws it right back out again.
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Meanwhile, Winter trades again
and gets another grape
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and has Lance's undivided attention
while she eats it.
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This time,
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Lance is not
so enthusiastic about trading.
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But eventually she does so.
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But when she gets the cucumber
this time around,
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she doesn't even take a bite
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before she throws it back out again.
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Apparently, Lance only wants a cucumber
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when she hasn't just watched
Winter eat a grape.
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And Lance was not alone in this.
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All of my Capuchins were perfectly happy
with their cucumbers
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as long as the other monkeys
were getting cucumbers too.
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But they often weren't so happy
with their cucumbers
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when other monkeys were getting a grape.
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The obvious question is why?
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If they liked those cucumbers before,
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what changed?
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Now, I'm a scientist,
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and scientists are famously shy
about reading too much into our studies,
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especially when it comes
to what other animals
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are thinking or feeling,
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because we can't ask them.
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But still, what I was seeing in my monkeys
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looked an awful lot like what we humans
would call a sense of fairness.
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After all,
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the difference in that cucumber
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was that it cam after Winter got a grape,
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rather than before.
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We humans are obsessed with fairness.
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I have a younger sister,
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and when we were little,
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if my sister got a bigger
piece of the pie than me,
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even by a crumb,
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I was furious,
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it wasn't fair.
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And the childhood me is not alone.
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We humans hate getting
less than another so much,
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that one study found
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that if humans were given
a hypothetical choice
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between earning 50,000 dollars a year
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while others earned 25,000 dollars
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or earning 100,000 dollars a year
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while others earned 250,000 dollars,
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nearly half the subjects
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prefer to earn 50,000 dollars
a year less money
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to avoid earning relatively less
than someone else.
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That's a pretty big price to pay.
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What drives people
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to this sort of apparently
irrational decision making?
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After all,
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throwing away your cucumber
because someone else got a grape
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only makes sense
if it makes things more fair.
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Otherwise, Winter has a grape,
and you have nothing.
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Of course humans are not Capuchin monkeys.
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But on the surface,
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sacrificing 50,000 dollars
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because somebody else
is going to earn more money than you
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makes no more sense
than throwing away that cucumber.
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Except, maybe it does.
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Some economists think
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that the sense of fairness in humans
is tied to cooperation.
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In other words, we need
that sense of fairness
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when we're working with somebody else
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to know when we're getting
the short end of the stick.
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Think about it this way.
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Let's say you have a colleague at work
who's having a hard time
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and needs a little extra help.
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You're probably more
than happy to help out,
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especially if she does
the same for you when you need it.
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In other words, if things even out.
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But now,
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let's say that colleague
is always slacking off
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and dumping extra work on you.
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That's infuriating.
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Or worse,
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what if you're doing all the work
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and she's getting paid more.
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You're outraged, right?
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As well you should be.
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That righteous fury
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is your sense of fairness
telling you that, well,
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it's not fair.
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You need to get your fair share
from the people you're working with
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or it's exploitation, not cooperation.
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You may not be able to leave every job
where you're treated unfairly,
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but in a perfect world,
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one without racism and sexism
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and the frictions associated
with finding a new job,
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it's your sense of fairness
that would let you know
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when it was time to move on.
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And if you couldn't?
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Well, that smoldering frustration
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might make you throw your cucumbers too.
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And human are not alone in this.
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In the previous study,
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there was nothing Lance could do about it,
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but what if there had been?
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It turns out
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that Capuchins simply refuse
to cooperate with other Capuchins
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who don't give them their share
after they work together.
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And refusing to work together
with another monkey
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is a pretty straightforward way
of leveling the playing field.
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Apparently, no monkey
getting anything at all
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is better than another
monkey getting more.
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But much like you and your coworker,
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they're perfectly happy
with a little short-term inequality
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as long as everything evens out
over the long run.
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This economic connection
between fairness and cooperation
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makes sense to me
as an evolutionary biologist.
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After all,
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your ancestors didn't get
to pass on their genes
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because they did well
in some absolute sense,
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but because they did better than others.
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We don't call it survival of the fit,
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we call it survival of the fittest.
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As in, more fit than others.
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It's all relative.
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OK.
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So my Capuchins don't like it
when they get less than another.
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And they're perfectly happy
to sacrifice their cucumbers
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to level the playing field.
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That's great.
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But what we would call
a sense of fairness in humans,
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also means that we care
when we get more than someone else.
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What about my monkeys?
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It turns out
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that primates do notice
when they get more than others.
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Or at least, some of them do.
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My Capuchins do not.
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But in one of my studies
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my chimpanzees would
sometimes refuse a grape
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if another chimpanzee
in their group got a cucumber,
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which is pretty impressive
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given how much my chimpanzees like grapes.
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However, they were still more upset
when they got less than another chimp
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as compared to when they got more.
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You may not think it's fair
when you have more than your neighbor,
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but you really don't think it's fair
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when your neighbor has more than you.
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Here's an important question though.
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Why do we care about
inequality or unfairness
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when we are the ones
who are unfairly benefiting?
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If evolution is about
survival of the fittest,
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wouldn't it make sense to grab
any advantage you can get?
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Here's the thing though.
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I do better if I get more than you, sure.
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But best of all is if you and I
can work together
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and get more than either one of us
could have gotten on our own.
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But why would you work with me
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if you don't think I'm going to play fair?
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But if you think I'm going to notice
when I've got more than you
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and do something about it,
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then you will work with me.
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Evolution has selected us
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to accept the occasional short-term loss
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in order to maintain these all-important
long-term relationships.
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This is true in chimpanzees,
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but it is even more important in humans.
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Humans are incredibly interconnected
and interdependent.
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And we have the advanced
cognitive abilities
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to be able to plan far into the future.
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And to recognize the importance
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of maintaining these
cooperative partnerships.
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Indeed if anything,
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I think we are likely underplaying
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how important the sense
of fairness is for people.
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One of the biggest differences
between humans and Capuchin monkeys
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is the sheer magnitude and ubiquity
of cooperation in humans.
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In other words,
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we're a lot more cooperative
than Capuchin monkeys are.
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Legal and economic systems
literally only exist
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if we all agree to participate in them.
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And if people feel left out
of the rewards and benefits
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of those systems,
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then they stop participating
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and the whole system falls apart.
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Many of the protests
and uprisings we're seeing,
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both in the US and around the globe,
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are explicitly framed
in terms of fairness,
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which is not surprising to me.
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Whether it's about disproportionate
access to resources,
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or that some groups are being
disproportionately impacted
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by the legal system
or the effects of a virus,
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these protests are the logical outcome
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of our long evolutionary tendency
to reject unfairness
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combined with our long history
of social stratification.
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And the systemic inequalities
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that have resulted
from that stratification.
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Layer on top of this the fact
that by many measures
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economic inequality is skyrocketing.
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Chris Boehm wrote a book
called "Hierarchy in the Forest"
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in which he argued
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that humans have reverse hierarchies
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in which those at the bottom band together
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to keep those at the top
from taking advantage of them.
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Perhaps these protests
are simply the latest manifestation
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of humans' tendency
to rebalance the hierarchy.
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Perhaps the biggest difference
between us and Capuchin monkeys
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is that we can recognize this problem
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and actively work
to do something about it.
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Of course we recognize
when we're disadvantaged.
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But we can and we must also recognize
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when we're advantaged
at the expense of someone else.
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And recognize fairness
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as the balance between
these two inequalities.
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Because our society literally
depends upon it.
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Indeed, my research shows
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that not all primate species
care about inequality.
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It's only those that rely on cooperation,
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which most definitely includes humans.
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We evolved to care about fairness
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because we rely on each other
for our cooperative society.
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And the more unfair the world gets,
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and the less we care about each other,
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the more peril we will face.
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Our issues are more complex
than grapes and cucumbers,
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but as the Capuchins have taught us,
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we will all do better
when we all play fair.
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Thank you.