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Hopeful lessons from the battle to save rainforests

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    When the Portuguese arrived
    in Latin America
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    about 500 years ago,
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    They found this amazing tropical forest.
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    And among all this biodiversity
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    that they had never seen before,
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    they found a species that caught
    their attention very quickly,
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    this species, when you cut the bark,
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    you find a very dark red resin.
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    It was very good to paint
    and dye fabric to make clothes
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    the indigenous people called
    this species "Pau Brasil".
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    and that's the reason why
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    this land became "land of Brasil",
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    and later on, Brazil.
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    that's the only country in the world
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    that has a name of a tree.
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    so, you can imagine that it's very cool
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    to be a forester in Brazil,
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    among other reasons.
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    Our forest's products are all around us.
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    Apart from all those products,
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    the forest is very important
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    for climate regulation.
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    In Brazil, almost 70 percent
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    of the evaporation that makes rain
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    actually comes from the forest.
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    Just the Amazon brings to the atmosphere
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    20 billion tons of water each day.
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    This is more than the Amazon river,
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    which is the largest in the world,
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    puts in the sea per day,
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    which is 17 billion tons.
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    If we have to boil water
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    to get the same effect
    of evapotranspiration,
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    we would need six months of the entire
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    power generation capacity of the world.
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    So it's a hell of a service
    for all of us.
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    We have in the world about
    4 billion hectares of forest.
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    This is, more or less, China, US, Canada
    and Brazil all together.
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    In terms of size, to have an idea,
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    three quarters of that are
    in the temperate zone.
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    One quarter is one the tropics.
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    But this one quarter, 1 billion hectares
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    holds most of the biodiversity.
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    And very important,
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    50 percent of the living biomass
    in the carbon.
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    Now we used to have like 6 billion
    hectares of forest.
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    50 percent more than
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    what he had a billion years ago.
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    We actually use 2 billion hectares
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    in the last 2000 years.
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    In the last 100 years,
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    we lost half of that.
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    that was when we shifted
    form deforestation
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    of temperate forest
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    to deforestation of tropical forest.
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    So think of this,
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    in a hundred years,
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    we lost the same amount of forest
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    in the tropics that we
    lost in 2000 years.
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    That's the speed of the
    destruction that we are having.
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    Now Brazil is an important
    piece of this puzzle.
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    It's the second largest forest
    in the world,
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    just after Russia.
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    It makes makes 12 percent of all
    the world's forest is in Brazil,
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    most of that is in the Amazon.
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    It's a large piece of forest
    that we have.
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    It's a very big large area.
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    You can see that you can fit
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    many of the world's countries there.
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    We still have 80 percent
    of the forest cover,
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    which is good news.
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    But we last 15 percent in just 30 years.
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    So if you go with that speed,
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    very soon, we will loose the powerful
    pump that we have
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    in the Amazon
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    that regulates our climate.
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    Deforestation was growing
    fast and accelarating
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    at the end of the '90s and
    the beginning of 2000.
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    27 thousand square kilometers
    in one year,
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    this is 2.7 million hectares.
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    This is almost half of Costa Rica
    every year.
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    So at this moment,
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    this is 2003/2004,
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    I happened to be coming to work
    in the government.
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    And together with other teammates
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    in the National Forest Department,
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    we were assigned a task
    to try and find out
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    the causes of deforestation
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    and make a plan to combat that at a
    national level.
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    within the local governments,
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    the civil society,
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    and business, local communities,
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    on an effort that could tackle
    those causes.
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    So we came up with this plan
    with 144 actions
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    in different areas.
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    Now I will go through all of them
    one by one,
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    just giving some examples
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    of what has been done in the last years.
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    So the first thing, we set up a system
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    with the National Spacial Agency
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    that could actually see where
    deforeatation
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    is actually happening in real time.
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    So now in Brazil, we have this system
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    that where every month, or every
    two months,
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    we gather information on where
    deforestation is happening
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    So we can actually act when
    it's happening.
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    And all the information is transparent
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    so others can replicate it in
    independent systems.
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    This allows us, among other things,
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    to apprehend 1.4 million meters of logs
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    that were illegally taken.
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    Part of that, we saw and sell
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    and all the revenue became a fund
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    that now funds conservation projects
    with an endowment fund.
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    This is also allows us to make
    big operations to seize corruption
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    and illegal operations
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    that end up having 700 people in prison,
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    including a lot of public servants.
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    Then we make the connection
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    that areas that have been working
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    with illegal deforestation should not get
    any kind of credit or finance.
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    So we cut this through the bank system
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    and then link this to the end users:
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    to supermarkets, slaughter houses
    that but products
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    from illegal clearinghouses.
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    they also can be liable
    for the deforestation.
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    So making all these connections
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    to help to push the problem down.
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    And also we work a lot on
    land tenure issues.
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    It's very important for conflicts.
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    50 million hectares of protected land
    was created,
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    which is an area the size of Spain.
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    and from those, 8 million were
    indigenous lands.
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    Now we start to see results.
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    So in the last 10 years,
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    deforestation came down
    in Brazil 75 percent.
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    (Applause).
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    So if we compare it with the average
    deforestation of the last decade,
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    we saved 8.7 million hectares, which is
    the size of Austria.
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    Nut more important, it avoids the emission
    of 3 billion tons of carbon dioxide
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    in the atmosphere.
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    This is by far the largest contribution to
    reduce greenhouse gasses
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    contribution to reduce greenhouse gasses
    until today.
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    As a positive action, one may think
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    that when you do these kinds of actions
    to decrease, to push down deforestation,
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    you will have an economic impact,
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    then you will not be having
    economic activities,
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    or something like that.
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    But it's interesting to know that it's
    quite the opposite.
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    In fact, on the period when we have the
    deepest decline of deforestation,
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    the economy grew, on average double from
    the previous decade
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    when deforestation was actually going up.
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    So it's a good lesson for us,
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    maybe this is completely disconnected
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    and we just learn by having
    deforestation come down.
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    Now this is all good news
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    and it's quite an achievement
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    as we obviously should be
    quite proud about that.
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    But it's not even close to sufficient.
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    In fact, if you think of the deforestation
    in the Amazon in 2013,
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    that was over half a million hectares,
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    which means that every minute,
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    the area the size of two soccer fields
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    is being cut in the Amazon last year.
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    Just last year.
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    if we sum up the deforestation we have
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    in the other biomasses in Brazil,
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    we are talking about still the largest
    deforestation rate in the world.
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    It's more or less like we are forest
    heroes, and still,
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    deforestation champions.
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    We can't be satisfied or even close
    to satisfied.
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    So the next step, I think
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    is to have zero loss of
    forest cover in Brazil
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    and have that as a goal for 2020.
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    That's our next step.
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    Now I was always interested
    in the relationship
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    between climate change and forests.
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    Forests because 15 percent of the
    greenhouse gas emissions
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    come from forests.
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    So it's a big part of the problem.
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    Also, forests can be a big part
    of the solution
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    since it's the best way we know to sink,
    capture and store carbon.
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    Now there is another relationship between
    climate change and forests
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    that really stuck me in 2008 and made
    me change my career
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    from forests to working with climate change.
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    I went to visit Canada in British Columbia,
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    together with the chiefs of the
    forest services of other countries.
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    We have a kind of alliance with them, like
    canada, Russia, India, China, US.
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    And when we were there,
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    we learned about this Pine Beetle
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    that is literally eating the
    forest in Canada.
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    What we see here of those brown trees.
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    These are really dead trees,
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    they are standing dead trees.
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    Because of the larvae of the beetle,
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    what happens is that this beatle
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    is controlled by the cold weather
    in the winter.
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    For many years now, they don't have the
    sufficient cold weather
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    to actually control the population
    of this beetle
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    and it became a disease
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    that is really killing billions of trees.
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    So I came back with this notion that
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    the forest is actually the earliest
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    and the most effected victims
    of climate change.
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    So I was thinking,
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    if I succeed in working with
    all my colleagues
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    to actually help to stop deforestation,
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    maybe we will loose the battle
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    later on for climate change
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    by floods, heat, fires and so on.
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    So I decided to leave the forest service
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    and start to work directly on
    climate change,
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    finding ways to think and understand
    the challenge
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    and go for there.
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    Now the challenge of climate change
    is straightforward,
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    the goal is very clear.
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    We want to limit increase of t
    he average temperatrure
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    of the planet by two degrees.
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    There are several reasons for that.
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    I'm not going into that now.
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    But in order to get into this
    limit of two degrees,
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    which was possible for us to survive,
    the IPPCC
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    the International Panel on Climate Change
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    defines that we have a budget of emmisions
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    of 1000 billion tons of CO2
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    from now until the end of the century.
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    So if we divide this by
    the number of years,
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    what we have is an average budget of
    11 billion tons of C02 per year.
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    Now what is one ton of CO2?
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    It's more or less what one small car,
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    running 20 kilometers a day,
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    will emit in one year.
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    Or it's flight, one way
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    from Sao Palo to Johanesburg or
    to London, one way.
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    Two ways, two tons.
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    So 11 billion tons is twice that.
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    Now the emissions today
    are 50 billion tons
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    and it's growing.
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    It's growing and maybe it will be 60
    by 2020.
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    Now we need to go down to 10 by 2050.
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    And while this happens,
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    the population will grow from
    7 to 9 billion people,
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    the economy will grow from
    60 trillion dollars in 2010
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    to 200 trillion dollars.
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    And what we need to do is to
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    be much more efficient in a way
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    where we can go from seven
    tons of carbon per capita
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    per person per year
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    into something like one.
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    We have to choose.
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    You take the airplane
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    or you have a car.
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    So the question is, "Can we make it?"
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    And that's the exactly the same question
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    I got when I was developing
    a plan to combat deforestation.
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    It's such a big problem, so complex.
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    Can we do it?
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    I think so.
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    Think of this:
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    deforestation makes 60 percent of the
    greenhouse gas emissions
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    in Brazil in the last decade.
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    Now, it's a little bit less than 30 percent.
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    In the world, 60 percent is energy.
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    If we can tackle, directly, the energy,
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    the same way we could
    tackle deforestation,
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    maybe we can have a chance?
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    So there are five things that I think
    we should do.
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    First, we need to disconnect development
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    from carbon emissions.
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    We don't need to clear-cut all the forests
    to actually get more jobs
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    and agriculture and have economy.
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    That's what we proved when we
    decreased deforestation.
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    The economy actually grows.
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    Same thing could happen
    in the energy sector.
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    Second, we have to move these centers
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    to the right place
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    9move incentives to the right place)
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    today 500 billion dollars a year
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    goes into subsidies for fossil fuels
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    why don't we put a price on carbon
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    and transfer this to the renewable energy
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    third, we need to measure and make
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    it transparent where, when and who is
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    emitting greenhouse gases
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    so we can have actions specifically
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    for each one of those
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    fourth, we need to leapfrog the routes of development
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    which means, you don't need to go
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    to alandline telephone before you get
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    to the mobile phones
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    same way we don't need to go to fossil fuels
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    to the one billion people who don't
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    have access to energy to
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    get to the clean energy
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    fifth and last
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    we need to share responsibilities between government
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    business and civil society
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    there is work to do for everybody
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    and we need to have everybody involved
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    so to finialize
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    i think, the future is not like a fate
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    that you have to just to go to business and usual
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    we need to have the courage
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    to actually change the route
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    invest in something new
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    that we can actually change the route
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    i think we are doing this
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    with deforestation in brazil
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    i think we can do it also
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    with climate change in the world
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    thank you
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    applause
Title:
Hopeful lessons from the battle to save rainforests
Speaker:
Tasso Azevedo
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Video Language:
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Duration:
15:16

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