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Hopeful lessons from the battle to save rainforests

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    When the Portuguese arrived
    in Latin America
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    about 500 years ago,
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    they obviously found this
    amazing tropical forest.
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    And among all this biodiversity
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    that they had never seen before,
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    they found one species that caught
    their attention very quickly.
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    This species, when you cut the bark,
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    you find a very dark red resin
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    that was very good to paint
    and dye fabric to make clothes.
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    The indigenous people called
    this species "Pau Brasil",
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    and that's the reason why
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    this land became "land of Brasil",
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    and later on, Brazil.
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    That's the only country in the world
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    that has a name of a tree.
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    So you can imagine that it's very cool
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    to be a forester in Brazil,
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    among other reasons.
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    Forest products are all around us.
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    Apart from all those products,
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    the forest is very important
    for climate regulation.
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    In Brazil, almost 70 percent
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    of the evaporation that makes rain
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    actually comes from the forest.
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    Just the Amazon boons to the atmosphere
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    20 billion tons of water everyday.
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    This is more than what the Amazon river,
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    which is the largest river in the world,
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    puts in the sea per day,
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    which is 17 billion tons.
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    If we have to boil water
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    to get the same effect
    of evapotranspiration,
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    we would need six months
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    of the entire power-generation
    capacity of the world.
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    So it's a hell of a service
    for all of us.
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    We have in the world about
    four billion hectares of forest.
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    This is, more or less, China, US,
    Canada, and Brazil all together,
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    in terms of size, to have an idea.
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    Three quarters of that is
    in the temperate zone,
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    and just one quarter is on the tropics,
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    but this one quarter, 1 billion hectares,
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    holds most of the biodiversity.
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    And very important,
    50 percent of the living biomass,
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    the carbon.
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    Now we used to have like 6 billion
    hectares of forest.
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    50 percent more than what we have,
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    2000 years ago.
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    We actually lost two billion hectares
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    in the last 2000 years.
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    But in the last 100 years,
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    we lost half of that.
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    That was when we shifted
    from deforestation
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    of temperate forest
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    to deforestation of tropical forest.
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    So think of this,
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    in a hundred years,
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    we lost the same amount of forest
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    in the tropics that we
    lost in 2000 years
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    in temperate forests.
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    That's the speed of the
    destruction that we are having.
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    Now Brazil is an important
    piece of this puzzle.
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    We have the second largest
    forest in the world,
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    just after Russia.
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    It means 12 percent of all
    the world's forests are in Brazil,
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    most of that is in the Amazon.
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    It's a largest piece
    of forest that we have.
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    It's a very big, large area.
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    You can see that you can fit
    many of the European countries there.
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    We still have 80 percent
    of the forest cover.
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    That's the good news.
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    But we lost 15 percent in just 30 years.
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    So if you go with that speed,
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    very soon, we will loose this powerful
    pump that we have
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    in the Amazon
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    that regulates our climate.
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    Deforestation was growing
    fast and accelarating
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    at the end of the '90s and
    the beginning of 2000:
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    27 thousand square kilometers
    in one year.
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    This is 2.7 million hectares.
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    It's almost like half
    of Costa Rica every year.
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    So at this moment,
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    this is 2003/2004,
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    I happened to be coming to work
    in the government.
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    And together with other teammates
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    in the National Forest Department,
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    we were assigned a task
    to join a a team and find out
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    the causes of deforestation
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    and make a plan to combat that
    at a national level,
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    involving the local governments,
    the civil society,
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    the business, local communities,
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    on an effort that could
    tackle those causes.
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    So we came up with this plan
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    with 144 actions in different areas.
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    Now I will go through
    all of them one by one.
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    No, just giving some examples
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    of what has been done in the last years.
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    So the first thing, we set up a system
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    with the National Spacial Agency
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    that could actually see where
    deforeatation is happening,
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    almost in real time.
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    So now in Brazil, we have this system
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    that where every month,
    or every two months,
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    we got information on where
    deforestation is happening
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    so we can actually act
    when it's happening.
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    And all the information
    is fully transparent
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    so others can replicate that
    in independent systems.
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    This allows us, among other things,
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    to apprehend 1.4 million
    cubic meters of logs
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    that were illegally taken.
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    Part of that, we saw and sell
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    and all the revenue became a fund
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    that now funds conservation projects
    of local communities
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    as an endowment fund.
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    This is also allows us to make
    big operations to seize corruption
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    and illegal activites
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    that end up having 700 people in prison,
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    including a lot of public servants.
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    Then we make the connection
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    that areas that have been working
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    with illegal deforestation should not get
    any kind of credit or finance.
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    So we cut this through the bank system
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    and then linked this to the end users.
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    So supermarkets,
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    the slaughterhouses, and so on
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    that buy products from
    illegal clear-cut areas,
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    they also can be liable
    for the deforestation.
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    So making all these connections to help
    to push the problem down.
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    And also we work a lot on
    land tenure issues.
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    It's very important for conflicts.
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    50 million hectares
    of protected areas were created,
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    which is an area the size of Spain.
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    And from those, eight million
    were indigenous lands.
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    Now we start to see results.
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    So in the last 10 years,
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    deforestation came down
    in Brazil 75 percent.
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    (Applause)
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    So if we compare it with the
    average deforestation
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    that we had of the last decade,
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    we saved 8.7 million hectares,
    which is the size of Austria.
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    But more important, it avoids
    the emission of three billion tons
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    of CO2 in the atmosphere.
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    This is by far the largest contribution to
    reduce greenhouse gas emissions,
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    until today, as a positive action.
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    One may think that when you do
    these kinds of actions
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    to decrease, to push down deforestation,
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    you will have an economic impact
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    because you will not be
    having economic activities,
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    or something like that.
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    But it's interesting to know
    that it's quite the opposite.
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    In fact, in the period when we have the
    deepest decline of deforestation,
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    the economy grew, on average,
    double from the previous decade
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    when deforestation was actually going up.
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    So it's a good lesson for us,
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    maybe this is completely disconnected
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    as we just learned by having
    deforestation come down.
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    Now this is all good news
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    and it's quite an achievement
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    as we obviously should be
    quite proud about that.
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    But it's not even close to sufficient.
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    In fact, if you think about
    the deforestation in the Amazon in 2013,
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    that was over half a million hectares,
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    which means that every minute,
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    an area the size of two soccer fields
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    is being cut in the Amazon
    last year, just last year.
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    If we sum up the deforestation we have
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    in the other biomes in Brazil,
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    we are talking about, still, the largest
    deforestation rate in the world.
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    It's more or less like we are
    forest heroes, but still,
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    deforestation champions.
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    So we can't be satisfied
    or even close to satisfied.
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    So the next step, I think,
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    is to fight to have zero loss
    of forest cover in Brazil
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    and to have that as a goal for 2020.
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    That's our next step.
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    Now I was always interested
    in the relationship
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    between climate change and forests.
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    Forests, because 15 percent of the
    greenhouse gas emissions
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    come from deforestation,
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    so it's a big part of the problem.
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    But also, forests can be
    a big part of the solution
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    since that's the best way we know
    to sink, capture, and store carbon.
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    Now there is another relationship
    between climate change and forests
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    that really stuck me in 2008
    and made me change my career
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    from forests to working
    with climate change.
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    I went to visit Canada,
    in British Columbia,
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    together with the chiefs of the
    forest services of other countries
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    that we have a kind of alliance of them,
    like Canada, Russia, India, China, US.
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    And when we were there,
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    we learned about this pine beetle
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    that is literally eating
    the forest in Canada.
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    What we see here, those brown trees,
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    these are really dead trees.
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    They are standing dead trees
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    because of the larvae of the beetle.
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    What happens is that this beetle
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    is controlled by
    the cold weather in the winter.
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    For many years now, they don't have
    the sufficient cold weather
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    to actually control
    the population of this beetle.
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    And it became a disease
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    that is really killing billions of trees.
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    So I came back with this notion that
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    the forest is actually
    one of the earliest
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    and the most affected
    victims of climate change.
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    So I was thinking,
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    if I succeed in working
    with all my colleagues
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    to actually help to stop deforestation,
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    maybe we will loose the battle
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    later on for climate change
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    by floods, heat, fires and so on.
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    So I decided to leave the forest service
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    and start to work directly
    on climate change,
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    finding ways to think
    and understand the challenge
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    and go from there.
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    Now the challenge of climate change
    is pretty straightforward.
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    The goal is very clear.
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    We want to limit increase of the
    average tempreatrure
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    of the planet to two degrees.
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    There are several reasons for that.
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    I will not get into that now.
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    But in order to get into
    this limit of two degrees,
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    which was possible for us to survive,
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    the IPCC,
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    the International Panel on Climate Change,
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    defines that we have a budget of emmisions
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    of 1000 billion tons of CO2
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    from now until the end of the century.
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    So if we divide this by
    the number of years,
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    what we have is an average budget of
    11 billion tons of C02 per year.
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    Now what is one ton of CO2?
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    It's more or less what one small car,
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    running 20 kilometers a day,
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    will emit in one year.
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    Or it's one flight, one way,
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    from Sao Palo to Johanesburg
    or to London, one way.
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    Two ways, two tons.
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    So 11 billion tons is twice that.
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    Now the emissions today
    are 50 billion tons
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    and it's growing.
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    It's growing and maybe it will be 61
    by 2020.
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    Now we need to go down to 10 by 2050.
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    And while this happens,
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    the population will grow from
    seven to nine billion people,
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    the economy will grow from
    60 trillion dollars in 2010
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    to 200 trillion dollars.
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    And so what we need to do
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    is to be be much more
    efficient in a way
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    that we can go from seven
    tons of carbon per capita
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    per person, per year,
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    into something like one.
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    You have to choose.
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    You take the airplane
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    or you have a car.
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    So the question is, "Can we make it?"
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    And that's the exactly the same question
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    I got when I was developing
    a plan to combat deforestation.
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    It's such a big problem, so complex.
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    Can we really do it?
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    I think so.
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    Think of this:
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    deforestation means 60 percent
    of the greenhouse gas emissions
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    in Brazil in the last decade.
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    Now, it's a little bit less than 30 percent.
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    In the world, 60 percent is energy.
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    So if we can tackle, directly, the energy,
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    the same way we could
    tackle deforestation,
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    maybe we can have a chance.
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    So there are five things that I think
    we should do.
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    First, we need to disconnect development
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    from carbon emissions.
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    We don't need to clear-cut all the forests
    to actually get more jobs
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    and agriculture and have more economy.
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    That's what we proved when we
    decreased deforestation.
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    The economy continues to grow.
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    Same thing could happen
    in the energy sector.
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    Second, we have to move
    the incentives to the right place.
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    Today, 500 billion dollars a year
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    goes into subsidies for fossil fuels.
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    Why don't we put a price on carbon
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    and transfer this to the renewable energy?
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    Third, we need to measure
    and make it transparent
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    where, when and who
    is emitting greenhouse gases
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    so we can have actions specifically
    for each one of those opportunities.
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    Fourth, we need to leapfrog the
    routes of development,
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    which means, you don't need
    to go to the landline telephone
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    before you get to the mobile phones.
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    Same way we don't need to
    go to fossil fuels
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    to the one billion people
    who don't have access to energy
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    before we get to the clean energy.
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    And fifth and last,
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    we need to share responsibility
    between government,
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    business, and civil society.
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    There is work to do for everybody,
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    and we need to have everybody onboard.
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    So to finalize,
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    I think the future is not like a fate
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    that you have to just to go
    as business and usual goes.
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    We need to have the courage
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    to actually change the route,
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    invest in something new,
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    think that we can actually
    change the route.
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    I think we are doing this with
    deforestation in Brazil.
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    And I hope we can do it also
    with climate change in the world.
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    Thank you.
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    (Applause).
Title:
Hopeful lessons from the battle to save rainforests
Speaker:
Tasso Azevedo
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Video Language:
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