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A new way to stop identity theft

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    So I want to talk about identity.
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    That's sort of an
    interesting enough topic to me.
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    And the reason was,
    because when I was asked to do this,
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    I'd just read, in one of the papers,
    I can't remember,
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    something from someone at Facebook
    saying, well,
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    we need to make everybody
    use their real names
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    and then that's basically
    all the problems solved.
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    And that's so wrong,
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    that's such a fundamentally,
    reactionary view of identity,
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    and it's going to get us
    into all sorts of trouble.
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    And so what I thought I'd do
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    is I'd explain four
    sort of problems about it,
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    and then I'll suggest a solution,
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    which hopefully you
    might find interesting.
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    So just to frame the problem,
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    what does authenticity mean?
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    That's me, that's
    a camera phone picture of me
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    looking at a painting.
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    [What's the Problem?
    Just use "real names"]
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    [for an "authentic" web]
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    That's a painting that was painted
    by a very famous forger,
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    and because I'm not very good
    at presentations,
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    I already can't remember the name
    that I wrote on my card.
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    And he was incarcerated
    in, I think, Wakefield Prison
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    for forging masterpieces by,
    I think, French Impressionists.
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    And he's so good at it,
    that when he was in prison,
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    everybody in prison,
    the governor and whatever,
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    wants him to paint masterpieces
    to put on the walls,
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    because they were so good.
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    And so that's a masterpiece,
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    which is a fake of a masterpiece,
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    and bonded into the canvas is a chip
    which identifies that as a real fake,
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    if you see what I mean.
    [Laughter]
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    So when we're talking about authenticity,
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    it's a little more fractal than it appears
    and that's a good example to show it.
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    I tried to pick four problems
    that will frame the issue properly.
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    So the first problem, I thought,
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    [Chip and PIN]
    Chip and PIN, right?
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    [Banking legacies
    Bringing down the system from within]
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    [Offline solutions
    do not work online]
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    Everyone's got
    a chip and PIN card,
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    I'm guessing everyone's got
    a chip and PIN card, right?
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    So why is that a good example?
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    That's the example of how
    legacy thinking about identity
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    subverts the security
    of a well-constructed system.
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    That chip and PIN card
    that's in your pocket
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    has a little chip on it
    that cost millions of pounds to develop,
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    is extremely secure,
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    you can put scanning
    electron microscopes on it,
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    you can try and grind it down,
    blah blah blah.
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    Those chips have never been broken,
    whatever you read in the paper.
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    And for a joke,
    we take that super-secure chip
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    and we bond it to a trivially
    counterfeitable magnetic stripe
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    and for very lazy criminals,
    we still emboss the card.
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    So if you're a criminal in a hurry,
    and you need to copy someone's card,
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    you can just stick a piece of paper on it
    and rub a pencil over it
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    just to sort of speed things up.
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    And even more amusingly,
    and on my debit card too,
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    we print the name and the SALT code
    and everything else on the front too.
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    Why?
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    There is no earthly reason why your name
    is printed on a chip and PIN card.
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    And if you think about it,
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    it's even more insidious and perverse
    that it seems at first.
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    Because the only people that benefit
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    from having the name
    on the card are criminals.
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    You know what your name is, right?
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    [Laughter]
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    And when you go into a shop
    and buy something,
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    they don't care.
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    It's a PIN, he doesn't care
    what the name is.
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    The only place where you ever have
    to write your name on the back
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    is in America at the moment.
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    Whenever I go to America,
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    and I have to pay with a mag stripe
    on the back of the card,
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    I always sign it Carlos Tethers anyway,
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    just as a security mechanism,
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    because I just figure
    if a transaction ever gets disputed,
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    and it comes back and
    it says Dave Birch,
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    I know it must have been a criminal,
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    because I would never sign it Dave Birch.
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    So if you drop your card in the street,
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    it means a criminal
    can pick it up and read it.
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    They know the name,
    from the name they can find the address
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    and then they can go off
    and buy stuff online.
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    Why do we put the name on the card?
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    Because we think identity
    is something to do with names,
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    and because we're rooted
    in the idea of the identity card,
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    which obsesses us.
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    And I know it crashed and burned
    a couple of years ago,
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    but if you're someone in politics
    or the home office or whatever,
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    and you think about identity,
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    you can only think of identity
    in terms of cards with names on them.
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    And that's very subversive
    in a modern world.
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    So the second example I thought I'd use
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    is chatrooms.
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    [Chatrooms and Children
    Don't do as I do, do as I say]
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    [Online privacy and offline privacy
    are different]
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    I'm very proud of that picture,
    that's my son
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    playing in his band with his friends
    for the first-ever gig,
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    I believe you call it, where he got paid.
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    [Laughter]
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    And I love that picture.
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    I like the picture of him
    getting into medical school a lot better,
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    [Laughter]
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    but I like that picture for the moment.
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    Why do I use that picture?
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    Because that was very interesting,
    watching that experience,
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    as an old person,
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    was a very interesting experience to me.
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    So him and his friends,
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    they get together, they booked a room,
    like a church hall,
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    and they got all their friends
    who had bands,
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    and they got them together,
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    and they do it all on Facebook,
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    and then they sell tickets,
    and the first band on the -
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    I was going to say "menu,"
    that's probably the wrong word for it,
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    isn't it?
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    The first band on the list of bands
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    that appears at some
    public music performance of some kind
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    gets the sales of the first 20 tickets,
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    and the next band gets the next 20,
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    and so on.
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    They were at the bottom of the menu,
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    they were like fifth,
    I thought they had no chance.
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    He actually got 20 quid.
    Fantastic, right?
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    But my point is, that all worked perfectly
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    except on the web.
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    So they're sitting on Facebook,
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    and they're sending these messages
    and arranging things
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    and they don't know who anybody is.
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    That's the big problem
    we're trying to solve.
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    If only they were using the real names,
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    Then you wouldn't be worried
    about them on the internet.
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    And so when he says to me,
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    oh, I want to go to a chatroom
    to talk about guitars or something,
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    I'm like, oh, well,
    I don't want you to go into a chatroom
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    to talk about guitars, because
    they might not all be your friends,
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    and some of the people
    that are in the chatroom
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    might be perverts and teachers
    and vicars.
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    [Laughter]
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    I mean, they generally are,
    when you look in the paper, right?
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    So I want to know
    who the people in the chatroom are.
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    So okay, you can go in the chatroom,
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    but only if everybody in the chatroom
    is using their real names,
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    and they submit full copies
    of their police report.
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    But of course, if anybody
    in the chatroom asked for his real name,
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    I'd say no.
    You can't give them your real name.
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    Because what happens
    if they turn out to be perverts,
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    and teachers and whatever,
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    So you have this odd sort of paradox,
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    where I'm happy for him
    to go into this space
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    if I know who everybody else is,
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    but I don't want anybody else
    to know who he is.
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    And so you get
    this sort of logjam around identity
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    where you want full disclosure
    from everybody else,
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    but not from yourself.
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    And there's no progress, we get stuck.
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    And so the chatroom thing
    doesn't work properly,
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    and it's a very bad way
    of thinking about identity.
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    So on my RSS feed,
    I saw this thing about -
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    I just said something bad
    about my RSS feed, didn't I?
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    I should stop saying it like that.
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    [Cheerleaders and Clubs
    Age and attitude]
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    [Let's not panic
    The power of subgroups]
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    For some random reason
    I can't imagine,
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    something about cheerleaders
    turned up in my inbox.
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    And I read this story about cheerleaders,
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    and it's a fascinating story.
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    This happened a couple of years ago
    in the U.S.
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    There were some cheerleaders
    in a team in a high school
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    in the U.S., and they said mean things
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    about their cheerleading coach,
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    as I'm sure kids do
    about all of their teachers
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    all of the time,
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    and somehow the cheerleading coach
    found out about this.
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    She was very upset.
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    And so she went to one of the girls,
    and said,
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    you have to give me
    your Facebook password.
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    I read this all the time,
    even at some universities,
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    and places of education,
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    kids are forced to hand over
    their Facebook passwords.
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    So you've got o give them
    your Facebook password.
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    And so the kids -
    she was a kid.
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    What she should have said
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    is my lawyer will be calling you
    first thing in the morning.
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    It's an outrageous imposition
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    on my 4th Amendment right
    to privacy,
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    and you're going to be sued
    for all the money you've got.
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    That's what she should have said.
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    But she's a kid,
    so she hands over the password.
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    The teacher can't log into Facebook,
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    because the school
    has blocked access to Facebook.
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    So the teacher can't log into Facebook
    until she gets home.
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    So the girl tells her friends,
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    guess what happened.
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    So the girls just all logged into Facebook
    on their phones,
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    and deleted their profiles.
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    And so when the teacher logged in,
    there was nothing there.
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    My point is, those identities,
    they don't think about them the same way.
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    Identity is, especially when
    you're a teenager, a fluid thing.
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    You have lots of identities.
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    And you can have an identity,
    you don't like it,
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    because it's subverted in some way,
    or it's insecure, or it's inappropriate,
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    you just delete it and get another one.
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    The idea that you have an identity
    that's given to you by someone,
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    the government or whatever,
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    and you have to stick with that identity
    and use it in all places,
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    that's absolutely wrong.
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    Why would you want to really know
    who someone was on Facebook,
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    unless you wanted to abuse them
    and harass them in some way?
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    And it just doesn't work properly.
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    And my fourth example is
    there are some cases
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    where you really want to be -
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    In case you're wondering,
    that's me at the G20 protest.
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    I wasn't actually at the G20 protest,
    but I had a meeting at a bank,
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    on the day of the G20 protest,
    and I got an email from the bank
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    saying please don't wear a suit,
    because it'll inflame the protestors.
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    I look pretty good in a suit, frankly,
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    so you can see why
    it would drive them
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    into an anti-capitalist frenzy.
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    [Laughter]
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    So I thought, well, look.
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    If I don't want to inflame the protestors,
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    the obvious thing to do
    is go dressed as a protestor.
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    So I went dressed completely in black,
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    You know, with a black [inaudible],
    I had black gloves on,
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    but I've taken them off
    to sign the visitor's book.
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    [What, Who, and Whistleblowers
    Whistleblowers and credentials]
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    [I must know what you are,
    not who you are]
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    (Laughter)
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    I'm wearing black trousers,
    black boots,
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    I'm dressed completely in black.
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    I go into the bank at 10 o'clock,
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    go, oh hi, I'm Dave Birch,
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    I've got a 3 o'clock with [inaudible].
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    Sure. And they signed me in.
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    (Laughter)
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    So this nonsense
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    about you've got to have real names
    on Facebook or whatever,
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    that gets you that kind of security.
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    That gets you security theater,
    where there's no actual security,
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    but people are sort of playing parts
    in a play about security.
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    And as long as
    everybody learns their lines,
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    everyone's happy.
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    But it's not real security.
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    Especially because I hate banks
    more than the G20 protestors do,
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    because I work for them.
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    I know that things are actually worse
    than these guys think.
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    (Laughter)
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    But suppose I worked
    next to sombody in a bank
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    who was doing something.
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    Suppose I was sitting
    next to a rogue trader,
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    and I want to report it
    to the boss of the bank.
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    So I log on to do
    a little bit of whistleblowing.
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    I send a message,
    this guy's a rogue trader.
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    That message is meaningless
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    if you don't know
    that I'm a trader at the bank.
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    If that message just comes from anybody,
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    it has zero information value.
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    There's no point in sending that message.
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    You have to know.
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    But if I have to prove who I am,
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    I'll never send that message.
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    It's just like the nurse in the hospital
    reporting the drunk surgeon.
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    That message will only happen
    if I'm anonymous.
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    So the system has to have ways
    of providing anonymity there,
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    otherwise we don't get
    where we want to get to.
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    So four issues.
    So what are we going to do about it?
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    Well, what we tend to do about it
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    is we think about Orwell space.
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    We try to make electronic versions
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    of the identity card
    that we got rid of in 1953.
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    [The Old Paradigm
    Can't resolve in Orwell space]\
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    [But Orwell is a paradigm
    for government and its critics]
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    So we think if we had a card,
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    call it a Facebook login,
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    which proves who you are,
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    and I make you carry it all the time,
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    that solves the problem.
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    And of course, for all those reasons
    I just outlined,
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    it doesn't, and it might actually make
    some problems worse.
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    The more times you're forced
    to use your real identity,
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    in transactional terms,
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    the more likely that identity
    is to get stolen and subverted.
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    The goal is to stop people
    from using identity
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    in transactions which don't need identity,
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    which is actually almost all transactions.
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    Almost all of the transactions you do
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    are not, who are you?
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    They're, are you allowed
    to drive the car,
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    are you allowed in the building,
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    are you over 18,
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    etcetera, etcetera.
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    So my suggestion- I, like James,
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    think that there should be
    a resurgence of interest in R & D.
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    I think this is a solvable problem.
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    It's something we can do about.
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    Naturally, in these circumstances,
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    I turn to Doctor Who.
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    Because in this,
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    as in so many other walks of life,
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    Doctor Who has already shown
    us the answer.
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    So I should say,
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    for some of our foreign visitors,
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    Doctor Who is the greatest
    living scientist in England,
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    (Laughter)
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    and a beacon of truth and enlightenment
    to all of us.
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    [The New Paradigm
    Doctor Who and the "psychic paper"]
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    And this is Doctor Who
    with his psychic paper.
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    You're not nerds if you say yes.
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    Who's seen Doctor Who's psychic paper?
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    Oh right, you were in the library
    the whole time studying I guess.
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    Is that what you're going to tell us?
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    Doctor Who's psychic paper
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    is when you hold up the psychic paper,
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    the person, in their brain,
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    sees the thing that they need to see.
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    So I want to show you a British passport,
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    I hold up the psychic paper,
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    you see a British passport.
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    I want to get into a party,
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    I hold up the psychic paper,
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    I show you a party invitation.
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    You see what you want to see.
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    So what I'm saying is we need
    to make an electronic version of that,
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    but with one tiny, tiny change,
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    which is that it'll only show you
    the British passport
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    if I've actually got one.
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    It'll only show you the party invitation
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    if I actually have one.
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    It will only show you that I'm over 18
    if I actually am over 18.
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    But nothing else.
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    So you're the bouncer at the pub,
    you need to know that I'm over 18,
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    instead of showing you my driving license,
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    which shows you that I know haw to drive,
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    what my name is, my address,
    all these kind of things,
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    I show you my psychic paper,
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    and all it tells you is
    am I over 18 or not.
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    Right.
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    Is that just a pipe dream?
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    Of course not, or else
    I wouldn't be here talking to you.
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    So in order to build that
    and make it work,
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    I'm only going to name these things,
    I'll not go into them,
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    we need a plan,
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    [A Plan
    Let's build a Psychic ID infrastructure]
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    which is we're going to build this
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    as an infrastructure
    for everybody to use,
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    to solve all of these problems.
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    We're going to make a utility,
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    the utility has to be universal,
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    you can use it everywhere,
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    I'm just giving you little flashes
    of the technology
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    as we go along.
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    [Utility: Universal]
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    [What if identity isn't
    a particular product or service]
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    [but a (regulated) utility
    that works in both "first life"]
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    [and in "second life"]
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    That's a Japanese ATM,
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    the fingerprint template
    is stored inside the mobile phone.
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    So when you want to draw money out,
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    you put the mobile phone on the ATM,
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    and touch your finger,
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    your fingerprint goes through
    to the phone,
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    the phone says yes, that's whoever,
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    and the ATM then gives you some money.
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    So it has to be a utility
    that can use it,
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    that you can use everywhere.
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    [Utility: Convenience]
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    [Speed is of the essence,
    and now we have contactless and NFC]
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    [we can deliver it to make
    identity work properly]
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    [without getting in the way]
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    It has to be absolutely convenient,
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    that's me going into the pub.
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    All the device on the door of the pub is,
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    is this person over 18
    and not barred from the pub?
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    And so the idea is,
    you touch your ID card to the door,
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    and if I am allowed in,
    it shows my picture,
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    if I'm not allowwed in,
    it shows a red cross.
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    It doesn't disclose any other information.
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    It has to have no special gadgets.
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    [Utility: No Special Gadgets!]
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    That can only mean one thing,
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    following on from Ross's statement,
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    which I agree with completely.
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    If it means no special gadgets,
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    it has to run on a mobile phone.
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    That's the only choice we have,
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    we have to make it work on mobile phones.
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    There are 6.6 billion
    mobile phone subscriptions.
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    My favorite statistic of all time,
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    only 4 billion toothbrushes in the world.
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    That means something,
    I don't know what.
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    (Laughter)
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    I rely on our futurologists to tell me.
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    It has to be a utility which is extensible.
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    [Utility: Extensibility]
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    [People should be able
    to build new businesses]
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    [using the identity utility
    without special permissions or licenses,]
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    [it should be like broadband or electricity]
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    So it has to be something
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    that anybody could build on.
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    Anybody should be able
    to use this infrastructure,
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    you don't need permissions,
    licenses, whatever,
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    anybody should be able
    to write some code to do this.
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    You know what symmetry is,
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    so you don't need a picture of it.
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    This is how we're going to do it.
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    We're going to do it using phones,
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    and we're going to do it using mobile proximity.
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    I'm going to suggest to you
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    the technology to implement
    Doctor Who's psychic paper
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    is already here, and if any of you
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    have got one of the new
    Barclay's debit cards
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    with the contactless interface on it,
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    you've already got that technology.
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    If you've ever been up to the big city,
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    and used an Oyster card at all,
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    does that ring any bells to anybody?
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    The technology already exists.
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    The first phones that have
    the technology built in,
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    the Google Nexus, the X2,
    the Samsung Wifi 7.9,
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    the first phones that have
    got this technology built into them
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    are already in the shops.
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    So the idea that the gas man
    can turn up at my mom's door
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    and he can show my mom his phone,
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    and she can tap it with her phone,
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    and it will come up with green
    if he really is from British Gas
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    and allowed in,
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    and it'll come up with red if he isn't,
    end of story.
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    We have the technology to do that.
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    And what's more,
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    although some of those things
    sounded a bit counter-intuitive,
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    like proving I'm over 18
    without proving who I am,
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    the cryptography to do that not only exists,
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    it's extremely well-known
    and well-understood.
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    Digital signatures, the blinding
    of public key certificates,
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    these technologies have been around
    for a while,
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    we've just had no way of packaging them up.
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    So the technology already exists.
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    We know it works,
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    There are a few examples
    of the technology being used
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    in experimental places.
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    That's London Fashion Week,
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    where we built a system with O2,
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    that's for the Wireless Festival
    in Hyde Park,
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    you can see the persons
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    walking in with their VIP band,
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    it's just being checked
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    by the Nokia phone
    that's reading the band.
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    I'm only putting those up to show you
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    these things are prosaic,
    this stuff works in these environments.
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    They don't need to be special.
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    So finally, I know that you can do this,
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    Because if you saw
    the episode of Doctor Who,
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    the Easter special of Doctor Who,
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    [Life on Mars
    Dr. Who and the "psychic paper"]
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    where he went to Mars in a bus,
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    I should say again
    for our foreign students,
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    that doesn't happen every episode.
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    This was a very special case.
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    So in the episode where
    he goes to Mars in a London bus,
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    I can't show you the clip,
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    due to the outrageous restrictions
    of Queen Anne-style copyright
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    by the BBC,
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    but in the episode
    where he goes to Mars in a London bus,
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    Doctor Who is clearly shown
    getting on to the bus
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    with the Oyster card reader
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    using his psychic paper.
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    Which proves that psychic paper
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    has an MSE interface.
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    Thank you very much.
Title:
A new way to stop identity theft
Speaker:
David Birch
Description:

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Video Language:
English
Team:
closed TED
Project:
TEDTalks
Duration:
17:01
  • Hello,

    The English transcript was updated on 6/10/20. Please make a note of the following edits:

    02:30 salt code ---> sort code
    04:30 home office ---> Home Office
    15:02 the Samsung Wifi 7.9 ---> the Samsung Wave 578
    16:44 MSE ---> NSF

    Thank you!

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