Math is forever
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0:20 - 0:22And inevitably, during that conversation
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0:22 - 0:26one of these two phrases come up:
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0:26 - 0:29A) "I was terrible at math,
but it wasn't my fault. -
0:29 - 0:33It's because the teacher
was awful." (Laughter) -
0:33 - 0:36Or B) "But what is math really for?"
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0:36 - 0:37(Laughter)
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0:37 - 0:39I'll now address Case B.
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0:39 - 0:41(Laughter)
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0:41 - 0:45When someone asks you what math is for,
they're not asking you -
0:45 - 0:48about applications
of mathematical science. -
0:48 - 0:50They're asking you,
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0:50 - 0:53why did I have to study that bullshit
I never used in my life again? (Laughter) -
0:53 - 0:56That's what they're actually asking.
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0:56 - 1:00So when mathematicians are asked
what math is for, -
1:00 - 1:02they tend to fall into two groups:
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1:02 - 1:0854.51 percent of mathematicians
will assume an attacking position, -
1:09 - 1:14and 44.77 percent of mathematicians
will take a defensive position. -
1:14 - 1:17There's a strange 0.8 percent,
among which I include myself. -
1:17 - 1:19Who are the ones that attack?
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1:19 - 1:22The attacking ones are mathematicians
who would tell you -
1:22 - 1:24this question makes no sense,
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1:24 - 1:27because mathematics
have a meaning all their own -- -
1:27 - 1:29a beautiful edifice with its own logic --
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1:29 - 1:31and that there's no point
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1:31 - 1:34in constantly searching
for all possible applications. -
1:34 - 1:36What's the use of poetry?
What's the use of love? -
1:36 - 1:39What's the use of life itself?
What kind of question is that? -
1:39 - 1:41(Laughter)
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1:41 - 1:44Hardy, for instance, was a model
of this type of attack. -
1:44 - 1:46And those who stand in defense tell you,
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1:46 - 1:51"Even if you don't realize it, friend,
math is behind everything." -
1:51 - 1:52(Laughter)
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1:52 - 1:54Those guys,
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1:54 - 1:58they always bring up
bridges and computers. -
1:58 - 2:01"If you don't know math,
your bridge will collapse." -
2:01 - 2:02(Laughter)
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2:02 - 2:06It's true, computers are all about math.
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2:06 - 2:08And now these guys
have also started saying -
2:08 - 2:13that behind information security
and credit cards are prime numbers. -
2:14 - 2:17These are the answers your math teacher
would give you if you asked him. -
2:17 - 2:20He's one of the defensive ones.
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2:20 - 2:21Okay, but who's right then?
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2:21 - 2:24Those who say that math
doesn't need to have a purpose, -
2:24 - 2:27or those who say that math
is behind everything we do? -
2:27 - 2:29Actually, both are right.
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2:29 - 2:30But remember I told you
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2:30 - 2:34I belong to that strange 0.8 percent
claiming something else? -
2:34 - 2:37So, go ahead, ask me what math is for.
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2:37 - 2:40Audience: What is math for?
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2:40 - 2:45Eduardo Sáenz de Cabezón: Okay,
76.34 percent of you asked the question, -
2:45 - 2:4823.41 percent didn't say anything,
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2:48 - 2:49and the 0.8 percent --
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2:49 - 2:52I'm not sure what those guys are doing.
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2:52 - 2:55Well, to my dear 76.31 percent --
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2:55 - 3:00it's true that math doesn't need
to serve a purpose, -
3:00 - 3:03it's true that it's
a beautiful structure, a logical one, -
3:03 - 3:06probably one
of the greatest collective efforts -
3:06 - 3:08ever achieved in human history.
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3:08 - 3:10But it's also true that there,
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3:10 - 3:14where scientists and technicians
are looking for mathematical theories -
3:14 - 3:17that allow them to advance,
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3:17 - 3:20they're within the structure of math,
which permeates everything. -
3:20 - 3:24It's true that we have to go
somewhat deeper, -
3:24 - 3:25to see what's behind science.
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3:25 - 3:29Science operates on intuition, creativity.
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3:29 - 3:33Math controls intuition
and tames creativity. -
3:34 - 3:36Almost everyone
who hasn't heard this before -
3:36 - 3:39is surprised when they hear
that if you take -
3:39 - 3:43a 0.1 millimeter thick sheet of paper,
the size we normally use, -
3:43 - 3:47and, if it were big enough,
fold it 50 times, -
3:47 - 3:52its thickness would extend almost
the distance from the Earth to the sun. -
3:53 - 3:55Your intuition tells you it's impossible.
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3:55 - 3:58Do the math and you'll see it's right.
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3:58 - 4:00That's what math is for.
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4:00 - 4:04It's true that science, all types
of science, only makes sense -
4:04 - 4:07because it makes us better understand
this beautiful world we live in. -
4:07 - 4:09And in doing that,
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4:09 - 4:12it helps us avoid the pitfalls
of this painful world we live in. -
4:12 - 4:16There are sciences that help us
in this way quite directly. -
4:16 - 4:17Oncological science, for example.
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4:17 - 4:21And there are others we look at from afar,
with envy sometimes, -
4:21 - 4:23but knowing that we are
what supports them. -
4:23 - 4:26All the basic sciences
support them, -
4:26 - 4:29including math.
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4:29 - 4:32All that makes science, science
is the rigor of math. -
4:32 - 4:37And that rigor factors in
because its results are eternal. -
4:37 - 4:40You probably said or were told
at some point -
4:40 - 4:43that diamonds are forever, right?
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4:44 - 4:46That depends on
your definition of forever! -
4:46 - 4:49A theorem -- that really is forever.
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4:49 - 4:50(Laughter)
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4:50 - 4:53The Pythagorean theorem is still true
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4:53 - 4:57even though Pythagoras is dead,
I assure you it's true. (Laughter) -
4:57 - 4:58Even if the world collapsed
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4:58 - 5:00the Pythagorean theorem
would still be true. -
5:00 - 5:04Wherever any two triangle sides
and a good hypotenuse get together -
5:04 - 5:06(Laughter)
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5:06 - 5:09the Pythagorean theorem goes all out.
It works like crazy. -
5:09 - 5:11(Applause)
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5:16 - 5:19Well, we mathematicians devote ourselves
to come up with theorems. -
5:19 - 5:21Eternal truths.
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5:21 - 5:24But it isn't always easy to know
the difference between -
5:24 - 5:27an eternal truth, or theorem,
and a mere conjecture. -
5:27 - 5:30You need proof.
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5:30 - 5:32For example,
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5:32 - 5:36let's say I have a big,
enormous, infinite field. -
5:36 - 5:40I want to cover it with equal pieces,
without leaving any gaps. -
5:40 - 5:42I could use squares, right?
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5:42 - 5:46I could use triangles.
Not circles, those leave little gaps. -
5:47 - 5:49Which is the best shape to use?
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5:49 - 5:54One that covers the same surface,
but has a smaller border. -
5:54 - 5:58In the year 300, Pappus of Alexandria
said the best is to use hexagons, -
5:58 - 6:00just like bees do.
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6:00 - 6:02But he didn't prove it.
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6:02 - 6:05The guy said, "Hexagons, great!
Let's go with hexagons!" -
6:05 - 6:08He didn't prove it,
it remained a conjecture. -
6:08 - 6:09"Hexagons!"
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6:09 - 6:13And the world, as you know,
split into Pappists and anti-Pappists, -
6:13 - 6:18until 1700 years later
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6:18 - 6:24when in 1999, Thomas Hales proved
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6:24 - 6:29that Pappus and the bees were right --
the best shape to use was the hexagon. -
6:29 - 6:31And that became a theorem,
the honeycomb theorem, -
6:31 - 6:33that will be true forever and ever,
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6:33 - 6:36for longer than any diamond
you may have. (Laughter) -
6:36 - 6:39But what happens if we go
to three dimensions? -
6:39 - 6:43If I want to fill the space
with equal pieces, -
6:43 - 6:45without leaving any gaps,
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6:45 - 6:47I can use cubes, right?
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6:47 - 6:50Not spheres, those leave little gaps.
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6:50 - 6:53What is the best shape to use?
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6:53 - 6:57Lord Kelvin, of the famous
Kelvin degrees and all, -
6:58 - 7:03said that the best was to use
a truncated octahedron -
7:05 - 7:08which, as you all know --
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7:08 - 7:09(Laughter) --
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7:09 - 7:11is this thing here!
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7:11 - 7:14(Applause)
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7:16 - 7:17Come on.
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7:18 - 7:21Who doesn't have a truncated
octahedron at home? (Laughter) -
7:21 - 7:22Even a plastic one.
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7:22 - 7:25"Honey, get the truncated octahedron,
we're having guests." -
7:25 - 7:26Everybody has one!
(Laughter) -
7:26 - 7:29But Kelvin didn't prove it.
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7:29 - 7:33It remained a conjecture --
Kelvin's conjecture. -
7:33 - 7:38The world, as you know, then split into
Kelvinists and anti-Kelvinists -
7:38 - 7:40(Laughter)
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7:40 - 7:43until a hundred or so years later,
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7:46 - 7:50someone found a better structure.
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7:51 - 7:56Weaire and Phelan
found this little thing over here -- -
7:56 - 7:58(Laughter) --
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7:58 - 8:01this structure to which they gave
the very clever name -
8:01 - 8:03"the Weaire-Phelan structure."
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8:03 - 8:06(Laughter)
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8:06 - 8:09It looks like a strange object,
but it isn't so strange, -
8:09 - 8:10it also exists in nature.
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8:10 - 8:13It's very interesting that this structure,
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8:13 - 8:15because of its geometric properties,
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8:15 - 8:20was used to build the Aquatics Center
for the Beijing Olympic Games. -
8:21 - 8:24There, Michael Phelps
won eight gold medals, -
8:24 - 8:27and became the best swimmer of all time.
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8:27 - 8:31Well, until someone better
comes along, right? -
8:31 - 8:33As may happen
with the Weaire-Phelan structure. -
8:33 - 8:36It's the best
until something better shows up. -
8:36 - 8:40But be careful, because this one
really stands a chance -
8:40 - 8:45that in a hundred or so years,
or even if it's in 1700 years, -
8:45 - 8:51that someone proves
it's the best possible shape for the job. -
8:51 - 8:55It will then become a theorem,
a truth, forever and ever. -
8:55 - 8:58For longer than any diamond.
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8:59 - 9:03So, if you want to tell someone
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9:04 - 9:07that you will love them forever
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9:07 - 9:09you can give them a diamond.
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9:09 - 9:12But if you want to tell them
that you'll love them forever and ever, -
9:12 - 9:14give them a theorem!
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9:14 - 9:15(Laughter)
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9:15 - 9:18But hang on a minute!
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9:19 - 9:20You'll have to prove it,
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9:20 - 9:22so your love doesn't remain
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9:22 - 9:24a conjecture.
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9:24 - 9:28(Applause)
- Title:
- Math is forever
- Speaker:
- Eduardo Sáenz de Cabezón
- Description:
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With humor and charm, mathematician Eduardo Sáenz de Cabezón answers a question that’s wracked the brains of bored students the world over: What is math for? He shows the beauty of math as the backbone of science — and shows that theorems, not diamonds, are forever. In Spanish, with English subtitles.
- Video Language:
- Spanish
- Team:
closed TED
- Project:
- TEDTalks
- Duration:
- 10:14
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