Math is forever
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0:01 - 0:06Imagine you're in a bar, or a club,
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0:07 - 0:10and you start talking to a girl,
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0:10 - 0:15and after a while this question come up:
"So, what do you do for work?" -
0:15 - 0:18And since you think
your job is interesting you say: -
0:18 - 0:20"I'm a mathematician."
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0:20 - 0:22(Laughter)
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0:22 - 0:2633.51 % of girls,
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0:26 - 0:27(Laughter)
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0:27 - 0:31in that moment, pretend
to get an urgent call and leave. -
0:31 - 0:32(Laughter)
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0:32 - 0:36And 64.69 % of girls
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0:36 - 0:40desperately try to change the topic and leave.
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0:40 - 0:41(Laughter)
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0:41 - 0:44There's 0.8 % made up by your cousin,
your girlfriend and your mother, -
0:44 - 0:46(Laughter)
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0:46 - 0:50who know that you work in something weird
but don't remember what it is. (Laughter) -
0:50 - 0:53And there is 1 %
that actually follows the conversation. -
0:53 - 0:55When that conversation happens,
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0:55 - 0:59at some point, invariably,
one of these two phrases come up: -
0:59 - 1:03A: "I was terrible at math,
but it wasn't my fault, -
1:03 - 1:06it's that the teacher
was horrendous." (Laughter) -
1:06 - 1:09And B: "But what is math really for?"
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1:09 - 1:10(Laughter)
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1:10 - 1:12I'll deal with case B.
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1:12 - 1:14(Laughter)
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1:14 - 1:18When someone asks you what math is for,
they're not asking you -
1:18 - 1:21about the application
of mathematical science. -
1:21 - 1:23They're asking you:
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1:23 - 1:27"Why did I have to study that bullshit
I never used in my life again?" (Laughter) -
1:27 - 1:29That's what they're actually asking.
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1:29 - 1:33So when mathematicians are asked
what math is for, -
1:33 - 1:35they tend to split into two groups.
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1:35 - 1:4154.51 % of mathematicians
will assume an attacking posture, -
1:42 - 1:47and 44.77 % of mathematicians
will take a defensive posture. -
1:47 - 1:50There's a strange 0.8 %,
among which I include myself. -
1:50 - 1:52Who are the ones that attack?
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1:52 - 1:55The attacking ones are mathematicians
who would tell you: -
1:55 - 1:57"This question makes no sense,
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1:57 - 2:00because mathematics
have a meaning on their own-- -
2:00 - 2:02a beautiful edifice with its own logic--
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2:02 - 2:04and that there's no point
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2:04 - 2:07in constantly searching
for all possible applications. -
2:07 - 2:09What's the use of poetry?
What's the use of love? -
2:09 - 2:12What's the use of life itself?
What kind of question is that?" -
2:12 - 2:14(Laughter)
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2:14 - 2:17Hardy, for instance, is a prime example
for this type of attack. -
2:17 - 2:20And those who stand in defense tell you:
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2:20 - 2:24"Even if you don't notice it, buddy,
math is behind everything." -
2:24 - 2:26(Laughter)
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2:26 - 2:28They always--
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2:28 - 2:32always name bridges and computers.
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2:32 - 2:34"If you don't know math,
your bridge falls off." -
2:34 - 2:36(Laughter)
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2:36 - 2:39In reality, computers are all about math.
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2:39 - 2:41Now, these guys always happen to tell you
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2:41 - 2:46that behind information security
and credit cards are prime numbers. -
2:47 - 2:50These are the answers your math teacher
would give you if you asked him-- -
2:50 - 2:53the defensive ones.
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2:53 - 2:54Okay, but, who's right then?
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2:54 - 2:57Those who say math
doesn't need to be useful at all, -
2:57 - 3:00or those who say
that it's really behind everything? -
3:00 - 3:02Actually, both are right.
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3:02 - 3:03But remember I told you
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3:03 - 3:07I belong to that strange 0.8 %
claiming something else. -
3:07 - 3:10So, go ahead, ask me what math is for.
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3:10 - 3:13Audience: What is math for?
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3:13 - 3:17Okay, so 76.34 % of you
asked the question, -
3:18 - 3:2123.41 % didn't say anything,
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3:21 - 3:22and 0.8 %--
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3:22 - 3:25not sure what those guys were doing.
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3:25 - 3:27Well, dear 76.31 %
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3:29 - 3:33it's true that math can be useless,
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3:33 - 3:36it's true that it's
a beautiful edification, a logical one, -
3:36 - 3:39probably one
of the greatest collective effort -
3:39 - 3:41the human race
has ever achieved in history. -
3:41 - 3:43But it's also true that there,
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3:43 - 3:47where scientists and technicians
are looking for mathematical theories -
3:47 - 3:50that allow them to advance,
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3:50 - 3:54they are in the edification of math,
which permeates everything. -
3:54 - 3:57It's true that we have to go
somewhat deeper, -
3:57 - 3:58to see what's behind science.
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3:58 - 4:02Science is based on intuition, creativity.
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4:02 - 4:06Math dominates intuition
and tames creativity. -
4:07 - 4:09Almost every person
who hasn't heard this before -
4:09 - 4:12is surprised when they hear
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4:12 - 4:16that a 0.1 mm thick sheet of paper--
one that we normally use-- -
4:16 - 4:20is big enough, that if you fold 50 times,
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4:20 - 4:25the thickness of that pile would take up
the distance from the Earth to the Sun. -
4:26 - 4:28Your intuition tells you it's impossible.
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4:28 - 4:31Do the math and you'll see it's right.
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4:31 - 4:33That's what math is for.
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4:33 - 4:37It's true that the main purpose
of science, of all types of science, -
4:37 - 4:40is to make us better understand
the beautiful world we live in. -
4:40 - 4:42And because it does so,
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4:42 - 4:45it can help us avoid the traps
of this painful world we live in. -
4:45 - 4:49There are sciences
that grasp this very application. -
4:49 - 4:50Oncological science, for example.
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4:50 - 4:54And there are others we look at from afar,
with jealousy sometimes, -
4:54 - 4:56but knowing we are what supports them.
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4:56 - 4:59All the basic sciences
are the support of them, -
4:59 - 5:02and among these is math.
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5:02 - 5:05All that makes science, science,
is the rigor of math. -
5:05 - 5:10And that rigor belongs to it
because the results are eternal. -
5:10 - 5:13You probably said or were told
at some point, -
5:13 - 5:16that diamonds are forever, right?
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5:17 - 5:19It depends on
what you understand by "forever"! -
5:19 - 5:22A theorem-- that really is forever!
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5:22 - 5:23(Laughter)
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5:23 - 5:26The Pythagorean theorem is still true
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5:26 - 5:29even though Pythagoras is dead,
I'm telling you. (Laughter) -
5:29 - 5:31Even if the world collapsed
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5:31 - 5:33the Pythagorean theorem
would still be true. -
5:33 - 5:37Wherever any two sides
and a good hypotenuse get together -
5:37 - 5:39(Laughter)
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5:39 - 5:41the Pythagorean theorem
works at its the max. -
5:41 - 5:44(Applause)
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5:49 - 5:52Well, us mathematicians devote ourselves
to come up with theorems. -
5:52 - 5:54Eternal truths.
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5:54 - 5:58But it isn't always easy to know
what an eternal truth, a theorem, is -
5:58 - 6:00compared to a mere conjecture.
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6:00 - 6:03You need demonstration.
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6:03 - 6:05For example,
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6:05 - 6:09imagine you have a big,
enormous, infinite field. -
6:09 - 6:13I want to cover it with equal pieces,
without leaving any gaps. -
6:13 - 6:15I could use squares, right?
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6:15 - 6:19I could use triangles.
Not circles, those leave little gaps. -
6:20 - 6:22Which is the best piece I can use?
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6:22 - 6:27One that covers the same surface,
but has the smallest border. -
6:27 - 6:31In the year 300, Pappus of Alexandria
said the best is to use hexagons, -
6:31 - 6:33just like bees do.
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6:33 - 6:35But he didn't demonstrate it.
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6:35 - 6:38The guy said, "Hexagons, great!
Let's go with hexagons!" -
6:38 - 6:41He didn't demonstrate it,
he stayed in a conjecture. -
6:41 - 6:42"Hexagons!"
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6:42 - 6:46And the world, as you know,
split into pappists and anti-pappists, -
6:46 - 6:50until 1700 years later--
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6:50 - 6:521700 years later--
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6:52 - 6:56in 1999 Thomas Hales demonstrated
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6:57 - 7:02that Pappus and the bees were right,
the best was to use hexagons. -
7:02 - 7:04And that became a theorem,
the honeycomb theory, -
7:04 - 7:06that will be true forever and ever,
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7:06 - 7:09for longer than any diamond
you may have. (Laughter) -
7:09 - 7:12But what happens if we go to 3 dimensions?
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7:12 - 7:16If I want to fill the space,
with equal pieces, -
7:16 - 7:18without leaving any gaps,
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7:18 - 7:20I can use cubes, right?
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7:20 - 7:23Not spheres, those leave little gaps.
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7:23 - 7:26What is the best piece I can use?
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7:26 - 7:28Lord Kelvin--
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7:28 - 7:31the one of the Kelvin degrees and all--
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7:31 - 7:34said that the best was to use
a truncated octahedron -
7:37 - 7:38(Laughter)
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7:38 - 7:41which as you all know
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7:41 - 7:42(Laughter)
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7:42 - 7:44is this thing over here!
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7:44 - 7:47(Applause)
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7:50 - 7:51Come on!
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7:51 - 7:54Who doesn't have a truncated
octahedron at home? (Laughter) -
7:54 - 7:55Even if it's plastic.
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7:55 - 7:58"Kid, get the truncated octahedron,
we have guests." -
7:58 - 8:00Everybody has one! (Laughter)
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8:00 - 8:02But Kelvin didn't demonstrate it.
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8:02 - 8:06He stayed in a conjecture--
Kelvin's conjecture. -
8:06 - 8:11The world, as you know, split between
kelvinists and anti-kelvinists -
8:11 - 8:13(Laughter)
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8:13 - 8:16until a hundred-and-something years later,
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8:17 - 8:20a hundred-and-something years later,
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8:20 - 8:23someone found a better structure.
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8:24 - 8:29Weaire and Phelan
found this little thing over here, -
8:29 - 8:31(Laughter)
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8:31 - 8:34they gave this structure
the imaginative name -
8:34 - 8:36of the Weaire-Phelan structure.
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8:36 - 8:39(Laughter)
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8:39 - 8:42It looks like a strange object,
but it isn't so strange, -
8:42 - 8:43it also exists in nature.
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8:43 - 8:46It's very interesting that this structure,
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8:46 - 8:48because of its geometric properties,
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8:48 - 8:53was used to build the Aquatics Center
for the Beijing Olympic Games. -
8:54 - 8:57There, Michael Phelps
won eight gold medals, -
8:57 - 9:00and became the best swimmer of all times.
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9:00 - 9:04Well, until someone better
comes along, right? -
9:04 - 9:06As it may happen
to the Weaire-Phelan structure. -
9:06 - 9:09It's the best
until something better shows up. -
9:09 - 9:13But be careful, because this one
really has the opportunity, -
9:13 - 9:18that in a hundred-and-something years
from when, even if it's in 1700 years, -
9:18 - 9:24someone demonstrates
that this is the best possible piece, -
9:24 - 9:28it will then become a theorem,
a truth, forever and ever. -
9:28 - 9:32For longer than any diamond.
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9:32 - 9:36So, if you want to tell someone
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9:37 - 9:39that you will love them forever
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9:39 - 9:41(Laughter)
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9:41 - 9:42you can give them a diamond,
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9:42 - 9:46but if you want to tell them
that you'll love them forever and ever, -
9:46 - 9:47give them a theorem!
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9:47 - 9:49(Laughter)
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9:49 - 9:51However,
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9:52 - 9:57you'll have to demonstrate,
that your love doesn't stay a conjecture. -
9:57 - 10:01(Applause)
- Title:
- Math is forever
- Speaker:
- Eduardo Saenz de Cabezon
- Description:
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Mathematician Eduardo Sáenz de Cabezón answers a question that’s wracked the brains of bored students the world over: What is math for? With humor and charm, he shows the beauty of math as the backbone of science — and shows that theorems, not diamonds, are forever.
- Video Language:
- Spanish
- Team:
closed TED
- Project:
- TEDTalks
- Duration:
- 10:14
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