A Contemporary Spin on Eastern Miniature Painting (Shahzia Sikander) | Art21
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0:00 - 0:04♪ (intro music) ♪
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0:09 - 0:11(water drips)
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0:28 - 0:32SHAHZIA SIKANDER: There's something about
the process, the miniature process of -
0:32 - 0:40painting in this scale, primarily,
which keeps it in control. -
0:43 - 0:45I'm basically staining the paper
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0:45 - 0:49and it has to be a very even stain.
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0:51 - 0:53It's slow, and you have to
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0:53 - 0:56keep the edge of the tea really, sort of,
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0:56 - 0:59always in flow, so that you just drip the
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0:59 - 1:02whole edge down steadily.
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1:05 - 1:07It's very meditative
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1:07 - 1:10and there's a sense of familiarity,
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1:10 - 1:13because a lot of years have gone in here.
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1:14 - 1:16(rubbing paper)
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1:22 - 1:24One thing I've learned is respect for
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1:24 - 1:27tradition and respect for patience
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1:27 - 1:30(laughs) because you just cannot achieve
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1:30 - 1:33anything...
You can't achieve a painting if -
1:33 - 1:34you don't... You need time.
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1:34 - 1:36Time is the key.
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1:36 - 1:43I can't do a show and prepare a body of
work in a year. I need three to four years -
1:43 - 1:46♪ (contemplative music) ♪
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2:04 - 2:10Miniature painting comes out of book
illustration, manuscript painting... -
2:10 - 2:13It's an old art form.
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2:14 - 2:17All the strange, stacked-up perspective,
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2:17 - 2:20interior spaces and suggestions of
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2:20 - 2:22windows and doors, which suggest the
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2:22 - 2:27outside world or the spiritual world, or
some notion of perfection. -
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2:32 - 2:35That kind of jewel-like translucency that
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2:35 - 2:40comes through is only because you have a
discipline behind it. -
2:40 - 2:42(paper rubbing)
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2:42 - 2:46It takes many, many layers - at least ten
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2:46 - 2:49to twenty layers of different colour - to
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2:49 - 2:52build it up. You have to be very careful,
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2:52 - 2:54because if your brush is loaded with too
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2:54 - 2:56much water, you'll lift off the earlier
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2:56 - 3:00layers of pigment also, because
they're not sealed. -
3:00 - 3:03So, it's practice.
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3:04 - 3:07Sometimes, when I'm not in practice,
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3:07 - 3:11all of ten years of experience doesn't
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3:19 - 3:21When we were studying in school in
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3:21 - 3:25Pakistan, my teacher used to have us sit
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3:25 - 3:31on the floor on white sheets and you had
to leave your shoes outside. -
3:31 - 3:36Everything was very precise and very clean
and very minimal. -
3:37 - 3:41You worked on your work and
did eye exercises. -
3:41 - 3:46You kept your work at least
a foot away from your eyes. -
3:46 - 3:51It was very methodical.
It was very ritualistic, also. -
3:53 - 3:56♪ (contemplative music) ♪
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4:13 - 4:18I feel like why I loved miniature painting
early on... For me, it was painting. -
4:19 - 4:21I was looking and understanding the formal
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4:21 - 4:24sensibility of painting - except I was not
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4:24 - 4:28painting on canvas; I was painting on
paper with a particular set of materials. -
4:29 - 4:36But it was all about surface, palette,
form, composition, stylization... -
4:37 - 4:41And self-expression came later.
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5:03 - 5:09A lot of my work is deeply personal
and drawn on memory. -
5:10 - 5:13If you look at this particular border,
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5:13 - 5:16it's called 'Writing the Written'.
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5:16 - 5:19Here, the text becomes more like horses.
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5:19 - 5:22There's a suggestion of movement.
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5:22 - 5:29That aspect is my experience of reading
the Quran, where I would read it with no -
5:29 - 5:34particular understanding because I was a
child. I could read Arabic but I couldn't -
5:34 - 5:42understand it. The memory of it is this
amazing visual memory where -
5:42 - 5:47the beauty of the written word
supersedes everything else. -
5:49 - 5:52The meaning is there, but it's not
just the meaning - it's the ability of the -
5:52 - 5:54written text to take you
to that other level. -
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6:04 - 6:10My whole purpose of taking on miniature
painting was to break the tradition, -
6:10 - 6:15to experiment with it,
to find new ways of making meaning, -
6:15 - 6:17to question the relevance of it.
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6:18 - 6:19(paper rustles)
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6:23 - 6:27The starting point in all my work,
whether it's small or it's large, -
6:27 - 6:33actually begins as simple drawings, which
are done on transparent tissue paper. -
6:33 - 6:35(paper rustles)
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6:37 - 6:41A lot of the images that exist in my work
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6:41 - 6:45were happening because I was interested in
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6:47 - 6:50subverting Hindu with Muslim
and Muslim with Hindu. -
6:53 - 6:56Having grown up as a Muslim in Pakistan,
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6:56 - 7:00I didn't have that much information
about Hindu mythology. -
7:00 - 7:07When I came here, I realized that these
were the things which still interested me. -
7:09 - 7:11(paper rustles)
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7:16 - 7:21I was looking at the idea
of the Hindu goddess. -
7:21 - 7:23It didn't matter how many hands it had,
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7:23 - 7:27just the notion that it was the female
body with several hands was important. -
7:27 - 7:30But the goddess had a very specific face.
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7:30 - 7:35Here, I was stripping off the face
and putting a headdress, like the veil, -
7:35 - 7:39on top of it. Yet the veil is on
top of a Hindu goddess. -
7:40 - 7:44Not to underestimate what's
behind the veil. -
7:47 - 7:51The miniatures bring the word 'veil'
into the equation. -
7:51 - 7:57It kind of connects you to a
Muslim identity or a woman's identity. -
7:57 - 8:00These are very loaded issues to take on,
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8:00 - 8:01because anything and everything
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8:01 - 8:06associated with Islam is either terrorism
or oppression for women. -
8:08 - 8:12Culturally, it's not my experience.
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8:13 - 8:17My grandparents, my parents... Everybody
was very, very progressive, -
8:17 - 8:19very supportive people.
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8:19 - 8:26My grandfather was very encouraging
towards careers for women - for everybody. -
8:26 - 8:29All the girls in the family did something
with their lives. -
8:31 - 8:34SIKANDER'S MOTHER: But then I was more
keen... "If she's going to the National -
8:34 - 8:38College of Art, then she might as well do
architecture, which has scope." -
8:38 - 8:44You know, when she said:
"Fine Arts," one was a bit... -
8:44 - 8:48At the most, you just hang
a few paintings in the house... -
8:48 - 8:51Whether you have a future or not...
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8:51 - 8:54- So I was skeptical about that...
- (SHAHZIA) Sorry! -
8:55 - 8:57(machinery whirs)
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8:59 - 9:00(rustling)
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9:06 - 9:08(SHAHZIA) This type of work for me was
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9:08 - 9:12just the opposite of the process of
doing miniature painting. -
9:12 - 9:14(machinery whirs)
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9:16 - 9:20(paper rustles)
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9:22 - 9:25This particular installation is much,
much more spontaneous -
9:25 - 9:30and it's always a challenge, because
the decisions made are fast. -
9:33 - 9:37It involves my entire body. I'm
working within the space -
9:37 - 9:41and I'm up and down the ladders
and I'm painting, -
9:41 - 9:46and everything kind of happens from
start till end within four to five days. -
9:47 - 9:51So there's a certain energy
which comes out. -
9:51 - 9:52(paper rustles)
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9:53 - 9:55There is a certain sense of a low-relief,
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9:55 - 9:59where several drawings have been hung
on top of each other. -
10:00 - 10:01(paper slides)
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10:03 - 10:05There's no intention to hide anything.
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10:05 - 10:06Everything is very visible.
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10:06 - 10:08The paper is transparent.
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10:08 - 10:11It flows, it moves...
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10:13 - 10:16The idea comes out of this whole
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10:16 - 10:19relationship to veiling
and revealing. -
10:20 - 10:24(distant footsteps, paper rustles)
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10:26 - 10:31I'm always taking photographs,
doing sketches or taking notes. -
10:31 - 10:35Then, I carry them wherever I go.
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10:37 - 10:42I brought so much stuff from Pakistan
and then so much stuff from Texas, -
10:42 - 10:48and every time I sit to do some work,
all of it is opened up. -
10:49 - 10:51(machinery whirs)
(switch clicks) -
10:55 - 10:58For me, it's always like these
divine circles. -
10:58 - 11:00(laughs)
You know, you go and you experience -
11:00 - 11:03something, and you come back right
where you started. -
11:12 - 11:15When I'm working large and I paint
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11:15 - 11:19and do murals, the next thing is: always
I come back to miniature painting. -
11:25 - 11:28I can hate miniature for a while,
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11:28 - 11:31because it's frustrating,
for all the different reasons -
11:31 - 11:37of doing something so labor-intensive
which takes years to make. -
11:37 - 11:40It's always like, 'Why do I do this?'
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11:40 - 11:42And I'll let go, and I'll do
something else, -
11:42 - 11:44but I always come back to it.
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11:44 - 11:54Maybe because the sheer act of doing it
gives me a certain sort of peace. -
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- Title:
- A Contemporary Spin on Eastern Miniature Painting (Shahzia Sikander) | Art21
- Description:
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Art21 proudly presents an artist segment, featuring Shahzia Sikander, from the "Spirituality" episode in Season 1 of the "Art in the Twenty-First Century" series.
"Spirituality" premiered in September 2001 on PBS.
Trained in the challenging discipline of Indian and Persian miniature painting, Shahzia Sikander has adapted an enduring artistic tradition to the task of questioning and exploring her Eastern heritage, its boundaries, and its liberating possibilities.
Shahzia Sikander was born in 1969 in Lahore, Pakistan. Learn more about the artist at: https://art21.org/artist/shahzia-sikander.
CREDITS
Created by: Susan Sollins & Susan Dowling. Executive Producer & Curator: Susan Sollins. Executive Producer: Susan Dowling. Series Producer: Eve-Laure Moros Ortega. Associate Producer: Migs Wright. Production Coordinator: Laura Recht. Researcher: Quinn Latimer & Wesley Miller. Director: Deborah Shaffer. Editor: Kate Taverna. Director of Photography: Bob Elfstrom, Ken Kobland, Joel Shapiro, & Dyanna Taylor. Additional Photography: Chip Nusbaum & Anita Sieff. Assistant Camera: Ulli Bonnekamp, John Griffiths, Glen Piegari, Kipjaz Savoie, & Ben Wolf. Sound: Ray Day, John Fintel, Alan Sawyer, Scott Szabo, J.T. Takagi, & Eric Williams. Gaffer/Grip: Steve Carrillo, Kent Eanes, Dennis Hollyfield, Greg Szabo, & Lieven Van Hulle. Production Assistant: Mark Chevarria, Anya Dehr-Turrell, Chris Dowling, Heather Glass, Melissa Morgan, & Erin Wile. Animation Stand Photographer: Marcos Levy & City Lights. Assistant Avid Editor: Heather Burak & Matt Prinzig.Full credits available at https://art21.org/watch/art-in-the-twenty-first-century/s1/spirituality
Major underwriting for Season 1 of Art in the Twenty-First Century is provided by Robert Lehman Foundation, PBS, National Endowment for the Arts, Corporation for Public Broadcasting, Rockefeller Brothers Fund, Agnes Gund and Daniel Shapiro, The Allen Foundation for the Arts, The Broad Art Foundation, The Jon and Mary Shirley Foundation, Bagley Wright Fund, The Rockefeller Foundation, The Andy Warhol Foundation for the Visual Arts, The Horace W. Goldsmith Foundation, and The Foundation-to-Life.
#ShahziaSikander #Spirituality #Art21
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
Art21
- Project:
- "Art in the Twenty-First Century" broadcast series
- Duration:
- 13:28
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