The art of asking
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0:10 - 0:16(Breathes in, breathes out)
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0:17 - 0:21So I didn't always make my living from music.
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0:21 - 0:24For about the five years after graduating
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0:24 - 0:27from an upstanding liberal arts university,
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0:27 - 0:31this was my day job.
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0:31 - 0:36I was a self-employed living statue called the 8-Foot Bride,
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0:36 - 0:39and I love telling people l did this for a job,
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0:39 - 0:41because everybody always wants to know,
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0:41 - 0:44who are these freaks in real life?
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0:44 - 0:46Hello.
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0:46 - 0:49I painted myself white one day, stood on a box,
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0:49 - 0:51put a hat or a can at my feet,
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0:51 - 0:54and when someone came by and dropped in money,
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0:54 - 1:02I handed them a flower and some intense eye contact.
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1:02 - 1:03And if they didn't take the flower,
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1:03 - 1:08I threw in a gesture of sadness and longing
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1:08 - 1:12as they walked away.
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1:12 - 1:15(Laughter)
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1:15 - 1:19So I had the most profound encounters with people,
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1:19 - 1:21especially lonely people who looked
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1:21 - 1:24like they hadn't talked to anyone in weeks,
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1:24 - 1:28and we would get this beautiful moment
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1:28 - 1:33of prolonged eye contact being allowed in a city street,
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1:33 - 1:36and we would sort of fall in love a little bit.
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1:36 - 1:42And my eyes would say, "Thank you. I see you."
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1:42 - 1:44And their eyes would say,
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1:44 - 1:50"Nobody ever sees me. Thank you."
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1:50 - 1:52And I would get harassed sometimes.
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1:52 - 1:54People would yell at me from their passing cars.
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1:54 - 1:57"Get a job!"
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1:57 - 2:00And I'd be, like, "This is my job."
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2:00 - 2:04But it hurt, because it made me fear
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2:04 - 2:07that I was somehow doing something un-joblike
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2:07 - 2:11and unfair, shameful.
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2:11 - 2:16I had no idea how perfect a real education I was getting
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2:16 - 2:19for the music business on this box.
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2:19 - 2:20And for the economists out there,
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2:20 - 2:24you may be interested to know I actually made a pretty predictable income,
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2:24 - 2:26which was shocking to me
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2:26 - 2:28given I had no regular customers,
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2:28 - 2:31but pretty much 60 bucks on a Tuesday, 90 bucks on a Friday.
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2:31 - 2:33It was consistent.
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2:33 - 2:35And meanwhile, I was touring locally
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2:35 - 2:38and playing in nightclubs with my band, the Dresden Dolls.
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2:38 - 2:40This was me on piano, a genius drummer.
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2:40 - 2:42I wrote the songs, and eventually
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2:42 - 2:46we started making enough money that I could quit being a statue,
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2:46 - 2:48and as we started touring,
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2:48 - 2:51I really didn't want to lose this sense
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2:51 - 2:54of direct connection with people, because I loved it.
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2:54 - 2:57So after all of our shows, we would sign autographs
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2:57 - 3:00and hug fans and hang out and talk to people,
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3:00 - 3:05and we made an art out of asking people to help us
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3:05 - 3:08and join us, and I would track down local musicians
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3:08 - 3:12and artists and they would set up outside of our shows,
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3:12 - 3:14and they would pass the hat,
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3:14 - 3:16and then they would come in and join us onstage,
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3:16 - 3:20so we had this rotating smorgasbord of weird, random circus guests.
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3:20 - 3:23And then Twitter came along,
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3:23 - 3:26and made things even more magic, because I could ask
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3:26 - 3:28instantly for anything anywhere.
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3:28 - 3:30So I would need a piano to practice on,
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3:30 - 3:33and an hour later I would be at a fan's house. This is in London.
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3:33 - 3:36People would bring home-cooked food to us
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3:36 - 3:40all over the world backstage and feed us and eat with us. This is in Seattle.
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3:40 - 3:43Fans who worked in museums and stores
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3:43 - 3:47and any kind of public space would wave their hands
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3:47 - 3:50if I would decide to do a last-minute, spontaneous, free gig.
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3:50 - 3:53This is a library in Auckland.
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3:53 - 3:58On Saturday I tweeted for this crate and hat,
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3:58 - 4:00because I did not want to schlep them from the East Coast,
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4:00 - 4:02and they showed up care of this dude, Chris
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4:02 - 4:05from Newport Beach, who says hello.
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4:05 - 4:09I once tweeted, where in Melbourne can I buy a neti pot?
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4:09 - 4:12And a nurse from a hospital drove one
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4:12 - 4:14right at that moment to the cafe I was in,
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4:14 - 4:15and I bought her a smoothie
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4:15 - 4:18and we sat there talking about nursing and death.
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4:18 - 4:21And I love this kind of random closeness,
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4:21 - 4:25which is lucky, because I do a lot of couchsurfing.
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4:25 - 4:29In mansions where everyone in my crew gets their own room
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4:29 - 4:32but there's no wireless, and in punk squats,
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4:32 - 4:35everyone on the floor in one room with no toilets
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4:35 - 4:39but with wireless, clearly making it the better option.
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4:39 - 4:41(Laughter)
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4:41 - 4:43My crew once pulled our van
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4:43 - 4:47up to a really poor Miami neighborhood
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4:47 - 4:49and we found out that our couchsurfing host for the night
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4:49 - 4:52was an 18-year-old girl, still living at home,
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4:52 - 4:57and her family were all undocumented immigrants from Honduras.
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4:57 - 5:00And that night, her whole family
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5:00 - 5:03took the couches and she slept together with her mom
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5:03 - 5:06so that we could take their beds.
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5:06 - 5:08And I lay there thinking,
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5:08 - 5:11these people have so little.
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5:11 - 5:14Is this fair?
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5:14 - 5:16And in the morning, her mom taught us how
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5:16 - 5:19to try to make tortillas and wanted to give me a Bible,
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5:19 - 5:25and she took me aside and she said to me in her broken English,
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5:25 - 5:30"Your music has helped my daughter so much.
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5:30 - 5:34Thank you for staying here. We're all so grateful."
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5:34 - 5:38And I thought, this is fair.
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5:38 - 5:41This is this.
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5:41 - 5:44A couple months later, I was in Manhattan,
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5:44 - 5:47and I tweeted for a crash pad, and at midnight,
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5:47 - 5:48I'm ringing a doorbell on the Lower East Side,
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5:48 - 5:51and it occurs to me I've never actually done this alone.
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5:51 - 5:52I've always been with my band or my crew.
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5:52 - 5:57Is this what stupid people do? (Laughter)
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5:57 - 5:59Is this how stupid people die?
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5:59 - 6:01And before I can change my mind, the door busts open.
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6:01 - 6:05She's an artist. He's a financial blogger for Reuters,
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6:05 - 6:07and they're pouring me a glass of red wine
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6:07 - 6:09and offering me a bath,
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6:09 - 6:13and I have had thousands of nights like that and like that.
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6:13 - 6:17So I couchsurf a lot. I also crowdsurf a lot.
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6:17 - 6:21I maintain couchsurfing and crowdsurfing
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6:21 - 6:23are basically the same thing.
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6:23 - 6:26You're falling into the audience
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6:26 - 6:27and you're trusting each other.
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6:27 - 6:30I once asked an opening band of mine
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6:30 - 6:32if they wanted to go out into the crowd and pass the hat
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6:32 - 6:34to get themselves some extra money, something that I did a lot.
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6:34 - 6:37And as usual, the band was psyched,
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6:37 - 6:39but there was this one guy in the band
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6:39 - 6:43who told me he just couldn't bring himself to go out there.
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6:43 - 6:47It felt too much like begging to stand there with the hat.
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6:47 - 6:55And I recognized his fear of "Is this fair?" and "Get a job."
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6:55 - 6:59And meanwhile, my band is becoming bigger and bigger.
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6:59 - 7:01We signed with a major label.
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7:01 - 7:04And our music is a cross between punk and cabaret.
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7:04 - 7:06It's not for everybody.
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7:06 - 7:09Well, maybe it's for you.
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7:09 - 7:13We sign, and there's all this hype leading up to our next record.
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7:13 - 7:19And it comes out and it sells about 25,000 copies in the first few weeks,
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7:19 - 7:22and the label considers this a failure.
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7:22 - 7:25And I was like, "25,000, isn't that a lot?"
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7:25 - 7:27They were like, "No, the sales are going down. It's a failure."
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7:27 - 7:30And they walk off.
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7:30 - 7:33Right at this same time, I'm signing and hugging after a gig,
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7:33 - 7:35and a guy comes up to me
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7:35 - 7:37and hands me a $10 bill,
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7:37 - 7:38and he says,
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7:38 - 7:42"I'm sorry, I burned your CD from a friend."
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7:42 - 7:45(Laughter)
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7:45 - 7:49"But I read your blog, I know you hate your label.
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7:49 - 7:51I just want you to have this money."
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7:51 - 7:55And this starts happening all the time.
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7:55 - 7:59I become the hat after my own gigs,
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7:59 - 8:02but I have to physically stand there and take the help from people,
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8:02 - 8:04and unlike the guy in the opening band,
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8:04 - 8:08I've actually had a lot of practice standing there.
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8:08 - 8:10Thank you.
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8:10 - 8:12And this is the moment I decide
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8:12 - 8:15I'm just going to give away my music for free
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8:15 - 8:17online whenever possible,
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8:17 - 8:20so it's like Metallica over here, Napster, bad;
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8:20 - 8:23Amanda Palmer over here, and I'm going to encourage
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8:23 - 8:27torrenting, downloading, sharing, but I'm going to ask for help,
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8:27 - 8:31because I saw it work on the street.
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8:31 - 8:34So I fought my way off my label and for my next project
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8:34 - 8:37with my new band, the Grand Theft Orchestra,
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8:37 - 8:39I turned to crowdfunding,
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8:39 - 8:44and I fell into those thousands of connections that I'd made,
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8:44 - 8:46and I asked my crowd to catch me.
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8:46 - 8:49And the goal was 100,000 dollars.
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8:49 - 8:53My fans backed me at nearly 1.2 million,
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8:53 - 8:56which was the biggest music crowdfunding project to date.
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8:56 - 9:00(Applause)
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9:00 - 9:04And you can see how many people it is.
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9:04 - 9:08It's about 25,000 people.
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9:08 - 9:11And the media asked, "Amanda,
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9:11 - 9:13the music business is tanking and you encourage piracy.
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9:13 - 9:15How did you make all these people pay for music?"
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9:15 - 9:20And the real answer is, I didn't make them. I asked them.
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9:20 - 9:23And through the very act of asking people,
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9:23 - 9:26I'd connected with them,
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9:26 - 9:31and when you connect with them, people want to help you.
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9:31 - 9:35It's kind of counterintuitive for a lot of artists.
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9:35 - 9:36They don't want to ask for things.
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9:36 - 9:42But it's not easy. It's not easy to ask.
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9:42 - 9:44And a lot of artists have a problem with this.
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9:44 - 9:47Asking makes you vulnerable.
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9:47 - 9:51And I got a lot of criticism online
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9:51 - 9:53after my Kickstarter went big
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9:53 - 9:56for continuing my crazy crowdsourcing practices,
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9:56 - 9:58specifically for asking musicians
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9:58 - 10:01who are fans if they wanted to join us on stage
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10:01 - 10:04for a few songs in exchange for love and tickets
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10:04 - 10:07and beer, and this was a doctored image
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10:07 - 10:11that went up of me on a website.
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10:11 - 10:14And this hurt in a really familiar way.
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10:14 - 10:17And people saying, "You're not allowed anymore
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10:17 - 10:19to ask for that kind of help,"
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10:19 - 10:23really reminded me of the people in their cars yelling, "Get a job."
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10:23 - 10:28Because they weren't with us on the sidewalk,
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10:28 - 10:31and they couldn't see the exchange
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10:31 - 10:33that was happening between me and my crowd,
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10:33 - 10:39an exchange that was very fair to us but alien to them.
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10:39 - 10:41So this is slightly not safe for work.
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10:41 - 10:43This is my Kickstarter backer party in Berlin.
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10:43 - 10:47At the end of the night, I stripped and let everyone draw on me.
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10:47 - 10:50Now let me tell you, if you want to experience
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10:50 - 10:53the visceral feeling of trusting strangers,
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10:53 - 10:55I recommend this,
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10:55 - 10:59especially if those strangers are drunk German people.
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10:59 - 11:04This was a ninja master-level fan connection,
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11:04 - 11:07because what I was really saying here was,
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11:07 - 11:09I trust you this much.
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11:09 - 11:13Should I? Show me.
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11:13 - 11:15For most of human history,
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11:15 - 11:20musicians, artists, they've been part of the community,
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11:20 - 11:25connectors and openers, not untouchable stars.
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11:25 - 11:29Celebrity is about a lot of people loving you from a distance,
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11:29 - 11:31but the Internet and the content
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11:31 - 11:34that we're freely able to share on it
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11:34 - 11:37are taking us back.
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11:37 - 11:40It's about a few people loving you up close
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11:40 - 11:45and about those people being enough.
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11:45 - 11:47So a lot of people are confused by the idea
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11:47 - 11:48of no hard sticker price.
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11:48 - 11:52They see it as an unpredictable risk, but the things I've done,
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11:52 - 11:54the Kickstarter, the street, the doorbell,
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11:54 - 11:56I don't see these things as risk.
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11:56 - 11:58I see them as trust.
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11:58 - 12:01Now, the online tools to make the exchange
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12:01 - 12:05as easy and as instinctive as the street,
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12:05 - 12:07they're getting there.
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12:07 - 12:10But the perfect tools aren't going to help us
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12:10 - 12:13if we can't face each other
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12:13 - 12:15and give and receive fearlessly,
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12:15 - 12:18but, more important,
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12:18 - 12:22to ask without shame.
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12:22 - 12:24My music career has been spent
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12:24 - 12:28trying to encounter people on the Internet
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12:28 - 12:30the way I could on the box,
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12:30 - 12:34so blogging and tweeting not just about my tour dates
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12:34 - 12:37and my new video but about our work and our art
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12:37 - 12:42and our fears and our hangovers, our mistakes,
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12:42 - 12:44and we see each other.
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12:44 - 12:48And I think when we really see each other,
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12:48 - 12:50we want to help each other.
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12:50 - 12:55I think people have been obsessed with the wrong question,
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12:55 - 12:59which is, "How do we make people pay for music?"
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12:59 - 13:01What if we started asking,
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13:01 - 13:06"How do we let people pay for music?"
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13:06 - 13:08Thank you.
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13:08 - 13:12(Applause)
- Title:
- The art of asking
- Speaker:
- Amanda Palmer
- Description:
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Don't make people pay for music, says Amanda Palmer: Let them. In a passionate talk that begins in her days as a street performer (drop a dollar in the hat for the Eight-Foot Bride!), she examines the new relationship between artist and fan.
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
- closed TED
- Project:
- TEDTalks
- Duration:
- 13:47
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The English transcript was updated on 3/17/2015.