Are we over-medicalized?
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0:00 - 0:04Those of you who have seen the film "Moneyball,"
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0:04 - 0:06or have read the book by Michael Lewis,
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0:06 - 0:09will be familiar with the story of Billy Beane.
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0:09 - 0:14Billy was supposed to be a tremendous ballplayer; all the scouts told him so.
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0:14 - 0:15They told his parents that
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0:15 - 0:17they predicted that he was going to be a star.
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0:17 - 0:22But what actually happened when he signed the contract -- and by the way, he didn't
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0:22 - 0:25want to sign that contract, he wanted to go to
college -- -
0:25 - 0:27which is what my mother, who actually does
love me, -
0:27 - 0:30said that I should do too, and I did --
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0:30 - 0:33well, he didn't do very well. He struggled
mightily. -
0:33 - 0:38He got traded a couple of times, he ended up in the Minors for most of his career,
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0:38 - 0:42and he actually ended up in management. He ended up as a General Manager of the
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0:42 - 0:42Oakland A's.
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0:42 - 0:47Now for many of you in this room, ending up in management, which is also what I've done,
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0:47 - 0:49is seen as a success.
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0:49 - 0:52I can assure you that for a kid trying to make it in the Bigs,
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0:52 - 0:56going into management ain't no success story. It's a failure.
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0:56 - 1:01And what I want to talk to you about today, and share with you, is that our
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1:01 - 1:05healthcare system, our medical system, is
just as bad at predicting -
1:05 - 1:10what happens to people in it -- patients,
others -- -
1:10 - 1:14as those scouts were at predicting what would happen to Billy Beane.
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1:14 - 1:17And yet, every day
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1:17 - 1:19thousands of people in this country
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1:19 - 1:23are diagnosed with preconditions.
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1:23 - 1:27We hear about pre-hypertension, we hear about pre-dementia,
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1:27 - 1:32we hear about pre-anxiety, and I'm pretty sure that I diagnosed myself with
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1:32 - 1:34that in the green room.
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1:34 - 1:38We also refer to subclinical conditions.
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1:38 - 1:43There's subclinical atherosclerosis, subclinical hardening of the arteries,
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1:43 - 1:46obviously linked to heart attacks, potentially.
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1:46 - 1:50One of my favorites is called
subclinical acne. -
1:50 - 1:54If you look up subclinical acne, you may find a website, which I did,
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1:54 - 1:58which says that this is the easiest type of acne to treat.
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1:58 - 2:04You don't have the pustules or the redness and inflammation.
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2:04 - 2:08Maybe that's because you don't actually
have acne. -
2:08 - 2:14I have a name for all of these conditions, it's another precondition:
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2:14 - 2:16I call them preposterous.
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2:16 - 2:22In baseball, the game follows the pre-game.
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2:22 - 2:25Season follows the pre-season.
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2:25 - 2:29But with a lot of these conditions, that actually isn't the case, or at least it isn't the
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2:29 - 2:34case all the time. It's as if there's a rain delay, every single time in many cases.
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2:34 - 2:36We have pre-cancerous lesions,
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2:36 - 2:39which often don't turn into cancer.
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2:39 - 2:41And yet,
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2:41 - 2:45if you take, for example, subclinical
osteoporosis, a bone thinning disease, -
2:45 - 2:47the precondition,
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2:47 - 2:49otherwise known as osteopenia,
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2:49 - 2:53you would have to treat 270
women for three years -
2:53 - 2:55in order to prevent one broken bone.
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2:55 - 2:56That's an awful lot of women
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2:56 - 2:59when you multiply by the number of women
who were diagnosed -
2:59 - 3:01with this osteopenia.
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3:01 - 3:03And so is it any wonder,
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3:03 - 3:06given all of the costs and the side effects
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3:06 - 3:10of the drugs that we're using to treat these preconditions, that every year
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3:10 - 3:14we're spending more than two trillion dollars on healthcare and yet
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3:14 - 3:17100,000 people a year -- and that's a conservative estimate -- are dying
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3:17 - 3:19not because of the conditions they have,
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3:19 - 3:23but because of the treatments that we're giving them and the complications of those treatments?
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3:23 - 3:26We've medicalized everything
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3:26 - 3:27in this country.
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3:27 - 3:30Women in the audience, I have
some -
3:30 - 3:32pretty bad news that you already know,
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3:32 - 3:35and that's that every aspect of your
life -
3:35 - 3:36has been medicalized.
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3:36 - 3:39Strike one is when you hit puberty.
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3:39 - 3:43You now have something that happens to you once a month that has been medicalized.
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3:43 - 3:44It's a condition;
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3:44 - 3:46it has to be treated. Strike two
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3:46 - 3:47is if you get pregnant.
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3:47 - 3:50That's been medicalized as
well. -
3:50 - 3:52You have to have a high-tech experience
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3:52 - 3:55of pregnancy, otherwise something might go wrong.
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3:55 - 3:59Strike three is menopause.
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3:59 - 4:03We all know what happened when millions of women were given hormone replacement therapy
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4:03 - 4:06for menopausal symptoms
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4:06 - 4:10for decades until all of a sudden we realized, because a study came out, a big one,
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4:10 - 4:11NIH-funded.
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4:11 - 4:12It said,
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4:12 - 4:17actually, a lot of that hormone replacement therapy may be doing more harm than good
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4:17 - 4:19for many of those women.
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4:19 - 4:21Just in case,
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4:21 - 4:23I don't want to leave the men out --
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4:23 - 4:24I am one, after all --
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4:24 - 4:27I have really bad news for all of you in
this room, -
4:27 - 4:28and for everyone
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4:28 - 4:30listening and watching elsewhere:
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4:30 - 4:31You all have
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4:31 - 4:34a universally fatal condition.
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4:34 - 4:37So, just take a moment.
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4:37 - 4:38It's called pre-death.
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4:38 - 4:43Every single one of you has it, because
you have the risk factor for it, -
4:43 - 4:45which is being alive.
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4:45 - 4:48But I have some good news for you,
because -
4:48 - 4:52I'm a journalist, I like to end things in a happy way or a forward-thinking way.
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4:52 - 4:56And that good news is that if you can survive to the end of my talk, which
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4:56 - 4:59we'll see if that happens for everyone,
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4:59 - 5:02you will be a pre-vivor.
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5:02 - 5:07I made up pre-death.
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5:07 - 5:11If I used someone else's pre-death, I apologize,
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5:11 - 5:13I think I made it up.
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5:13 - 5:14I didn't make up pre-vivor.
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5:14 - 5:20Pre-vivor is what a particular cancer advocacy group would like everyone who
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5:20 - 5:21just has a risk factor,
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5:21 - 5:23but hasn't actually had that cancer,
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5:23 - 5:25to call themselves.
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5:25 - 5:26You are a pre-vivor.
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5:26 - 5:31We've had HBO here this morning. I'm wondering if Mark Burnett is anywhere in the
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5:31 - 5:32audience, I'd like to suggest
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5:32 - 5:37a reality TV show called "Pre-vivor."
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5:37 - 5:40If you develop a disease, you're off
the island. -
5:40 - 5:45But the problem is, we have a system
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5:45 - 5:47that is completely --
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5:47 - 5:49basically promoted this.
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5:49 - 5:52We've selected, at every point in this system,
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5:52 - 5:56to do what we do, and to give everyone a
precondition and then eventually -
5:56 - 5:58a condition, in some cases.
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5:58 - 6:02Start with the doctor-patient
relationship. Doctors, most of them, -
6:02 - 6:07are in a fee-for-service system. They are
basically incentivized to do more -- -
6:07 - 6:09procedures, tests,
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6:09 - 6:11prescribe medications.
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6:11 - 6:12Patients come to them,
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6:12 - 6:16they want to do something. We're
Americans, we can't just stand -
6:16 - 6:19there, we have to do something. And so
they want a drug. -
6:19 - 6:23They want a treatment. They want to be told, this is what you have and this is how
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6:23 - 6:25you treat it. If the doctor
doesn't give you that, -
6:25 - 6:27you go somewhere else.
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6:27 - 6:29That's not very good for doctors'
business. -
6:29 - 6:30Or even worse,
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6:30 - 6:34if you are diagnosed with something
eventually, and the doctor didn't order that test, -
6:34 - 6:37you get sued.
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6:37 - 6:40We have pharmaceutical companies that are
constantly trying to expand -
6:40 - 6:45the indications, expand the number of people who are eligible for a given treatment,
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6:45 - 6:48because that obviously helps their bottom line.
We have advocacy groups, -
6:48 - 6:50like the one that's come up with
pre-vivor, -
6:50 - 6:54who want to make more and more people feel they are at risk, or might have a condition,
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6:54 - 6:56so that they can raise more funds
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6:56 - 6:59and raise visibility, et cetera.
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6:59 - 7:01But this isn't actually,
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7:01 - 7:04despite what journalists typically do,
this isn't actually about blaming -
7:04 - 7:05particular players.
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7:05 - 7:07We are all responsible.
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7:07 - 7:08I'm responsible.
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7:08 - 7:12I actually root for the Yankees, I mean talk
about -
7:12 - 7:15rooting for the worst
possible -
7:15 - 7:17offender when it comes to doing
everything you can do. -
7:17 - 7:19Thank you.
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7:19 - 7:23But everyone is responsible.
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7:23 - 7:26I went to medical school,
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7:26 - 7:30and I didn't have a course called How to Think Skeptically,
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7:30 - 7:32or How Not to Order Tests.
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7:32 - 7:35We have this system
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7:35 - 7:37where that's what you do.
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7:37 - 7:40And it actually took being a journalist
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7:40 - 7:44to understand all these incentives. You know, economists like to say,
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7:44 - 7:45there are no bad people,
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7:45 - 7:47there are just bad incentives.
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7:47 - 7:49And that's actually true.
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7:49 - 7:52Because what we've created is a sort of Field of Dreams, when it comes to medical technology.
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7:52 - 7:57So when you put another MRI in
every corner, you put a robot -
7:57 - 8:01in every hospital saying that everyone has to have robotic surgery.
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8:01 - 8:05Well, we've created a system where if you
build it, they will come. -
8:05 - 8:08But you can actually perversely
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8:08 - 8:11tell people to come, convince them
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8:11 - 8:13that they have to come.
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8:13 - 8:17It was when I became a journalist that I really realized how I was part of this problem,
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8:17 - 8:19and how we all are part of this problem.
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8:19 - 8:23I was medicalizing every risk factor, I was writing stories, commissioning stories,
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8:23 - 8:27every day, that were trying to,
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8:27 - 8:30not necessarily make people worried, although that was what often happened.
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8:30 - 8:33But, you know, there are ways out.
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8:33 - 8:34I saw my own internist last week,
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8:34 - 8:37and he said to me,
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8:37 - 8:39"You know," and he told me something that
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8:39 - 8:42everyone in this audience could have
told me for free, -
8:42 - 8:44but I paid him for the privilege, which
is that -
8:44 - 8:46I need to lose some weight.
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8:46 - 8:51Well, he's right. I've had honest-to-goodness high blood pressure
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8:51 - 8:52for a dozen years now, same
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8:52 - 8:54age my father got it,
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8:54 - 8:58and it's a real disease. It's not pre-hypertension, it's actual
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8:58 - 9:00hypertension, high blood pressure.
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9:00 - 9:01Well, he's right,
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9:01 - 9:04but he didn't say to me,
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9:04 - 9:06well, you have pre-obesity or
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9:06 - 9:09you have pre-diabetes, or anything like that. He didn't say,
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9:09 - 9:12better start taking this Statin, you need to lower your cholesterol.
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9:12 - 9:15No, he said, "Go out and lose some weight. Come back and see me in a bit,
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9:15 - 9:17or just give me a call and let me know how you're doing."
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9:17 - 9:19So that's, to me,
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9:19 - 9:21a way forward.
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9:21 - 9:23Billy Beane, by the way, learned the same
thing. -
9:23 - 9:25He learned,
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9:25 - 9:29from watching this kid who he eventually hired, who was really successful for him,
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9:29 - 9:33that it wasn't swinging for the fences, it
wasn't swinging at every pitch -
9:33 - 9:38like the sluggers do, which is what all the expensive teams like the Yankees like to --
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9:38 - 9:40they like to pick up those guys.
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9:40 - 9:44This kid told him, you know, you gotta watch the guys, and you gotta go out and find
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9:44 - 9:45the guys who like to walk,
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9:45 - 9:47because getting on base by a walk
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9:47 - 9:50is just as good, and in our healthcare
system -
9:50 - 9:51we need to figure out,
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9:51 - 9:53is that really a good pitch
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9:53 - 9:56or should we let it go by and not swing at everything?
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9:56 - 9:58Thanks.
- Title:
- Are we over-medicalized?
- Speaker:
- Ivan Oransky
- Description:
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Reuters health editor Ivan Oransky warns that we’re suffering from an epidemic of preposterous preconditions -- pre-diabetes, pre-cancer, and many more. In this engaging talk from TEDMED he shows how health care can find a solution ... by taking an important lesson from baseball.
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
closed TED
- Project:
- TEDTalks
- Duration:
- 10:04
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